On November 02 2011 03:04 Azide wrote: I don't mind the fact that Protech was defeatured..... considering the amount of hate and horrible attitudes that spawn from his channel.
If you match him in 2v2 and win, then go check out his stream to hear what he had to say about the game or his chat he will 1) ban you, 2) ban anybody supporting you.
He will then accuse you of either 1) stream cheating, 2) map hacking, 3) abusing the worst 2v2 combo in the game
It's not fair that a public figure, being put up on the featured list with max 300 viewers gets to call everyone he loses to a stream cheater/hacker meanwhile we can't defend ourselves.
While I understand it is hard for 2v2 to get a start, we have a weekly 2v2 tournament with a stream that can surely help. I don't feel like Protech accusing everyone of hacking and cheating while using racist terms and 1 basing for 10 minutes helps the 2v2 scene. In fact I think if a random person was interested and tuned in they would be put off by all the whining and accusations and stick to the opinion that 2v2 is for bad players with no skill who can just cheese.
I'd certainly think only idiots play 2v2 after watching Protech's stream
I haven't had the time to watch much SC2 lately due to work and what I did watch was mostly catching up on NASL, but I haven't seen any of this. Did I just luck out or is Azide exaggerating the situation?
Nah, ProTech does indeed do some of this, but it's being grossly over exaggerated. This is one of the couple people that have a personal vendetta against ProTech. You can see from the last few pages of his stream topic what I mean by that. It's actually pretty bad that they get away with BMing somebody constantly in that persons own topic, which is made in order to try and get in more viewers.
Maybe we were watching different streams? Do you have a censored stream or maybe a "nice" version of his stream? I checked it out twice and I couldn't stand the way he acted, and it didn't even seem like he was trying to be funny, he actually seemed to mean what he was saying O.o
Hmm maybe I have just been lucky so far? I guess I will continue to watch and hope I don't see any of that. Was nice to have a good 2v2 stream (Selects is sometimes - but usually 1v1), but I hate over the top BM. I mean a little bit of it is fine, you can't expect to totally get rid of it, but I try not to support crazy BM.
I usually prefer to watch 1v1, but team game streams are great every now and then for variety.
On November 02 2011 03:08 lazyo wrote: I love the changes overall but I HATE that you increased the site's width to 1200px. I usually browse on a 1680*1050 screen in portrait mode so now the site is bigger than my screen's width. Take a lesson from web standards and either keep your site with the old width or better yet, make it liquid (scaling with windows size).
Wonder why they didn't opt for this. Would it have been too difficult to implement?
Love the changes, even though I haven't played around with the customization. One nice thing about the widening of the body is that image posts will hopefully look nicer (able to fit more than one decent size pic per line).
The only thing I don't like is that the leaderboard ad pushes down the featured news, and interrupts the horizontal flow of the page (imo). I don't know if the leaderboard add has to be in a specific position, but I'd propose moving it below the featured news. On my laptop with a fairly standard 800 pixel height display, it still puts the ad "above the fold" (I use Chrome, which does not have excessive vertical ... cough, chrome, and do have the Windows Start Menu bar hidden or to the side, so YMMV).
Something like this:
Note: I don't mind the leaderboard above the main content on other pages, just on the homepage it makes it seem less cohesive of a "front page" a la newspapers.
Edit: I'm noticing inconsistent loading delays for the right side-bar. The rest of the page will load first, and then it takes a few seconds for the right sidebar to load.
Edit 2: For those who don't like the width, I wonder if a mobile version toggle could be offered.
I think people are freaking out a bit too much about the defeatures. You will still be able to check TL to see if their streams are up by expanding the "non featured" link.
We've gotten to the point where theres so much livestreaming going on that its not enough to have 100-200 average viewers anymore.
I love the changes to the sidebar on the right, I only have one suggestion. When you toggle to show races on (for SC streams) the race appears *after* the name. I'd like them to appear to the left/before the names, so that they are all aligned vertically. It would simply look nicer.
Everything is taking 2x longer to load....not a fan, sorry..
Still only takes 3 sec to load front page or sc2 page, but used to be half that....though i do like the icons next to streams, so i guess i decent tradeoff...but i am impatient lol...or mainly just too used to the faster
These changes are really great but I think some of those streamers deserve to stay. attero, titan, ranged and a few others are active and mildly popular.
So i turned on the race icons for the starcraft streamers and i noticed that putting the icon on the left side of the name would make it look more streamlined
Omg EPIC I really love the ideas of these changes they are FANTASTIC
I really like your reasoning for the streaming too!
It will take a while to get used to this wideness though ( a little awkward since a post's text covers even less space now, while the nametag and date etc. can take up just as much space as the actual post itself)
Most of the adds im getting are 'quick' loan (no idea if they have an english name) sites that the goverment thinks are breaking laws and people are getting fooked by them
NICE, it's like u listened to my complaint about how the site feels (related to the number of .."stuff" u see on it).
Now if in the future u plan on doing the same for the middle and left part, that would mean 90% user customisation
Anyway..major thumbs up..really really good changes so far, looking for more in the future. Bring TL to the future ;D
EDIT: one thing i would want to know tho. Why arn't contests like MLG listed in the calendar? Only sponsored events are listed in the calendar?...meaning MLG has to pay u guys to get included in the calendar with bold numbers?
Yeah I don't get all the complaints about the wider format. I use 1680X1050 res and I hated the old layout because it meant like 50% of my screen was just whitespace on the sides. While this new format is wider, it's only slightly wider than before and barely noticeable to me as I still have a ton of whitespace on the sides.
I wish they made the layout adaptive to whatever resolution you're using so the site fills up the whole screen. Maybe one day that will happen, but anyone using a widescreen res won't notice much of a diff from before.
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