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teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
October 21 2011 23:51 GMT
#141
On October 22 2011 08:49 gosuMalicE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 08:22 Bowzer wrote:
I honestly believe the changes that they have presented will make the game much more skill and micro oriented.

What do you guys think?

Regardless of the other changes, blink ultras are quite possible the dumbest thing since destructible rocks, except for collapsible rocks of course...

Blink ultras sound fucking amazing, dunno what you're smoking. Just imagine like 5-6 ultras suddenly popping out behind your army, sounds scary as hell.
The_DarkAngelz
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil221 Posts
October 21 2011 23:52 GMT
#142
Seens like blizzard did not notice that protoss LACKS DETECTION...badly....and protoss WILL need MORE detection to deal with this kinda OP baneling...Man, i'm the only one that sees that when toss is building his ONLY detection unit he is not making units that makes possible to win the fight???

But man, the possiilities now are amazing...seens like terran is not the ONLY race with a lot of openings. Really seeing foward,

Hope i'm included in BETA lol

really wanna help this expansion to be as amazing as it can be !
EsMuyVien
Profile Joined July 2011
United States408 Posts
October 21 2011 23:52 GMT
#143
Creaming my pants! Thanks!
If what I think is happening is happening - it better not be.
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
October 21 2011 23:53 GMT
#144
On October 22 2011 08:52 The_DarkAngelz wrote:
Seens like blizzard did not notice that protoss LACKS DETECTION...badly....and protoss WILL need MORE detection to deal with this kinda OP baneling...Man, i'm the only one that sees that when toss is building his ONLY detection unit he is not making units that makes possible to win the fight???

But man, the possiilities now are amazing...seens like terran is not the ONLY race with a lot of openings. Really seeing foward,

Hope i'm included in BETA lol

really wanna help this expansion to be as amazing as it can be !


The baneling burrow move upgrade will be "at the hive" according to Browder, same thing with hydralisk speed.
http://grooveshark.com/#/deltrus/music
El_Deuz
Profile Joined April 2011
Mexico71 Posts
October 21 2011 23:55 GMT
#145
:D nice nice nice nice nice so amazing, i want to see Hellionbots and Big Thor!!!

good job kenny!!
MVP I Polt I Bomber
gorgoino18
Profile Joined November 2009
Korea (South)109 Posts
October 21 2011 23:55 GMT
#146
So if marauders are gone, what do Terrans use vs. Protoss? I can't see the battle mode for Hellion and warhounds faring great against a Protoss Death Ball.
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The_DarkAngelz
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil221 Posts
October 21 2011 23:55 GMT
#147
On October 22 2011 08:53 DeltruS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 08:52 The_DarkAngelz wrote:
Seens like blizzard did not notice that protoss LACKS DETECTION...badly....and protoss WILL need MORE detection to deal with this kinda OP baneling...Man, i'm the only one that sees that when toss is building his ONLY detection unit he is not making units that makes possible to win the fight???

But man, the possiilities now are amazing...seens like terran is not the ONLY race with a lot of openings. Really seeing foward,

Hope i'm included in BETA lol

really wanna help this expansion to be as amazing as it can be !


The baneling burrow move upgrade will be "at the hive" according to Browder, same thing with hydralisk speed.


It'll still being OP....can u realize zerg focusing in kill Observes (with is hard to get some) AND using borrowed banelings??? omg...i can't even think of that !
Magic_Mike
Profile Joined May 2010
United States542 Posts
October 21 2011 23:55 GMT
#148
I really like most of these changes. I feel like the burrowed banelings moving around is going to be waaayyy OP. Or it might just make people start to play with more observers/ravens. We'll see. Well start to see a lot more people in lower leagues doing better as zerg though.
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
October 21 2011 23:58 GMT
#149
New units are so amazing, bring on HotS!
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The_DarkAngelz
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil221 Posts
October 21 2011 23:58 GMT
#150
On October 22 2011 08:55 gorgoino18 wrote:
So if marauders are gone, what do Terrans use vs. Protoss? I can't see the battle mode for Hellion and warhounds faring great against a Protoss Death Ball.


Terran will have to improvise....as we protoss had and zerg, all this whole time that terran was kinda imba (various openings, all-ins that doesn't look like all in because mules, full detection and instant scoult and 1-1-1)

we (toss and zerg) had to deal with all that day by day, trying to win by micro, by new openings, by using every unit in this game....same goes to Zerg....

Now time to Terran do the same...Improve, play and realize new strat !
Beagle23
Profile Joined August 2008
Australia52 Posts
October 21 2011 23:59 GMT
#151
On October 22 2011 08:55 gorgoino18 wrote:
So if marauders are gone, what do Terrans use vs. Protoss? I can't see the battle mode for Hellion and warhounds faring great against a Protoss Death Ball.


Wait, marauders are gone? I didn't see that in the OP, is this a recent revelation?
Kon-Tiki
Profile Joined February 2011
United States402 Posts
October 21 2011 23:59 GMT
#152
On October 22 2011 08:53 DeltruS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 08:52 The_DarkAngelz wrote:
Seens like blizzard did not notice that protoss LACKS DETECTION...badly....and protoss WILL need MORE detection to deal with this kinda OP baneling...Man, i'm the only one that sees that when toss is building his ONLY detection unit he is not making units that makes possible to win the fight???

But man, the possiilities now are amazing...seens like terran is not the ONLY race with a lot of openings. Really seeing foward,

Hope i'm included in BETA lol

really wanna help this expansion to be as amazing as it can be !


The baneling burrow move upgrade will be "at the hive" according to Browder, same thing with hydralisk speed.


The oracle really seems like it ought to be a detector, and maybe that'll be patched in
I am a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar.
Salix
Profile Joined March 2011
New Zealand16 Posts
October 22 2011 00:00 GMT
#153
I'm confused what they mean when they say: "Late Game Zealot powerful vs Terran".

Are they saying it is currently too powerful, and this will be fixed in HotS. Or that Zealots are getting some sort of buff late game?
vijeze
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands719 Posts
October 22 2011 00:01 GMT
#154
Sweet, can't wait!
pieisamazing
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1234 Posts
October 22 2011 00:04 GMT
#155
On October 22 2011 08:55 The_DarkAngelz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 08:53 DeltruS wrote:
On October 22 2011 08:52 The_DarkAngelz wrote:
Seens like blizzard did not notice that protoss LACKS DETECTION...badly....and protoss WILL need MORE detection to deal with this kinda OP baneling...Man, i'm the only one that sees that when toss is building his ONLY detection unit he is not making units that makes possible to win the fight???

But man, the possiilities now are amazing...seens like terran is not the ONLY race with a lot of openings. Really seeing foward,

Hope i'm included in BETA lol

really wanna help this expansion to be as amazing as it can be !


The baneling burrow move upgrade will be "at the hive" according to Browder, same thing with hydralisk speed.


It'll still being OP....can u realize zerg focusing in kill Observes (with is hard to get some) AND using borrowed banelings??? omg...i can't even think of that !

Yep it's certainly OP. HotS is out and professionals have played it for quite awhile. In addition, Blizzard has compiled numerous statistics showing that it's without a counter. The observer has been removed because no protoss want to build it because they feel detection is beneath them.
connoisseur
CutieBK
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Sweden227 Posts
October 22 2011 00:05 GMT
#156
Man, the game is gonna change so much with HotS. I think it just sunk in just how different it'll be O.o

Can't say I'm completely blown away by the new terran units(terran player), but God dammit do those Zerg changes look sexy!
deerpark87
Profile Joined January 2011
760 Posts
October 22 2011 00:05 GMT
#157
i cry for the lost of the carrier
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
October 22 2011 00:06 GMT
#158
On October 22 2011 08:22 Bowzer wrote:
I honestly believe the changes that they have presented will make the game much more skill and micro oriented.

What do you guys think?


Disagree completely i think it looks like it wont change much at all. The new units look particularly bland and unlike BW they are simply removing units they feel dont serve a purpose, which is too bad. Should have designed new units to augment existing design. I guess when you design a game as poorly as wings of liberty you have no choice though.
Broom
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
October 22 2011 00:06 GMT
#159
I think the viper is kind of a dumb name that doesnt really fit the description of a zerg. Reminds me more of a terran unit (vulture, raven etc). Wouldnt mind a name change.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
The_DarkAngelz
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil221 Posts
October 22 2011 00:07 GMT
#160
On October 22 2011 09:04 pieisamazing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 08:55 The_DarkAngelz wrote:
On October 22 2011 08:53 DeltruS wrote:
On October 22 2011 08:52 The_DarkAngelz wrote:
Seens like blizzard did not notice that protoss LACKS DETECTION...badly....and protoss WILL need MORE detection to deal with this kinda OP baneling...Man, i'm the only one that sees that when toss is building his ONLY detection unit he is not making units that makes possible to win the fight???

But man, the possiilities now are amazing...seens like terran is not the ONLY race with a lot of openings. Really seeing foward,

Hope i'm included in BETA lol

really wanna help this expansion to be as amazing as it can be !


The baneling burrow move upgrade will be "at the hive" according to Browder, same thing with hydralisk speed.


It'll still being OP....can u realize zerg focusing in kill Observes (with is hard to get some) AND using borrowed banelings??? omg...i can't even think of that !

Yep it's certainly OP. HotS is out and professionals have played it for quite awhile. In addition, Blizzard has compiled numerous statistics showing that it's without a counter. The observer has been removed because no protoss want to build it because they feel detection is beneath them.


What? Observer has been removed???
wtf? what detects now?
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