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mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
September 17 2011 08:31 GMT
#101
30 minutes to go. HYPE!
villageidiot
Profile Joined May 2009
353 Posts
September 17 2011 08:34 GMT
#102
On September 17 2011 17:29 nokz88 wrote:
Brillant article. I really enjoyed the semifinals reviews.

It seems to me that BW game reviews are much more detailed and shows much more strategical depth than SC2 ones. I wonder if SC2 foreign scene is still in need of in-depth game analysts.


Announcement about announcement will be fine for them.
Good night sour prince. You won't be missed!
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
September 17 2011 09:44 GMT
#103
Yet another edition of the most prestigious Starcraft tournament in the world is upon us...

Jung Myung Hoon gulps. Heo Young Moo grimaces. ... the Stargirls are impassive.

Kim Carrier is ready...

Go!
Writer
Slurgi
Profile Joined March 2010
United States118 Posts
September 17 2011 09:49 GMT
#104
Anybody know where I can find the physical location of this? I can tell by the skyline zoom that I'm fairly nearby... (moved to Seoul a month or so ago)
gn0m
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden302 Posts
September 17 2011 10:45 GMT
#105
Definitely the first time a read an article on TL without being amazed. In fact this write-up was petty bad, since Kwark killed all the hype. Flash had his chance but was eliminated. By Jangbi.

If Jangbi had cheesed him for two cheap wins I would understand your anger but that was hardly the case. In the second game he let Flash turtle like he loves to do and then rolled him anyways. In the third game Flash fucked up and Jangbi seized the opportunity.
-_-
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
September 17 2011 10:58 GMT
#106
My heart says fantasy but my mind.......... well my mind says fantasy too what the hell, 3-2 fantasy
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MaxReaver
Profile Joined June 2011
7 Posts
September 17 2011 12:56 GMT
#107
Jangbi won the series 3-2 in one of the most exciting PvT series ever, captured his first OSL gold and fulfilled the Legend of the Fall.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42539 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 13:23:25
September 17 2011 13:11 GMT
#108
I think the reason I keep getting invited back to write is because I am a genuine progaming fan who, broadly speaking, knows what's going on and shares that. When awesome shit happens and I'm incredibly hyped I try to share that emotion with you guys. Unfortunately I just didn't feel it for this tournament.

To give some background, the first OSL finals I ever watched was Anytime against Nada. Nada had been the best, a mechanical genius who destroyed all before him until his life was struck with a personal tragedy, the sudden death of his father. He stopped playing and practicing to take time with his family and disappeared off the face of progaming. A few weeks after the funeral he posted this poem.
+ Show Spoiler +
Letter to the Sky

hi this is nada~..
hows ur life goin'?
i am drunk today too~
i am living life with drinks nowdays
u know when u drink, u feel better?
i was walking in the rain after having drinks with friend in the cafe

like...

the rain that is...
father's tear..

my dad always wanted to do some business...
had many failures because of those tries...
but before all those failures
he wanted the happiness of our family...
but... he couldnt...
no... because of that 1 guy...

my dad was very healthy...
very healthy... my dad was very strong...
he wasnt skinny like me
he was big..
and strong..
he never lost vs people
and when we were living in the name of poor
my father fought with gansters only with his 2 hands...

oneday my mother came back home with all bruises over her face
my dad grabbed a metal pipe
and gone to the corporation ..
he leaped over the fence to revenge for my mom...
its like that...
thats how much he loved our family
and thats how strong he was...

but.....

the 1 guy .... drinking driving... and by illegial U-turn
dad is in the sky now...
this ...
this isnt a destiny.. its an error of destiny...
an error of the sky...
the error that never supposed to be happend...

ha.........i still feel empty...
but not a long ago... when i walked in the rain...
i felt it..
it was like...
my father's tear

i...nada...
think i have to get brave back...

i talked with my friends in Gumi(state of korea)... alot of talk...
everyone is living a hard life...
i felt it now...

i realized how happy life i am living while talking with my friends...
i realize it now... now... now i realize...

yes i have to wake up again...
having no practice now is killing me...

if i go back to seoul...
practice hard... so no one can beat me...

and for sure... i will dedicate all those winnings and honors to ..
my father...

i..
im going back ...

dont worry...

im going back to the real nada...

so








remember







i will take care of my family dad..


When you read those words, you become a Nada fan. When you read those words, you believe.

So the OSL comes around and Nada has lost his usual seed because of his break. He's got to come from the qualifiers (called the ODT in those days). He 3-0s his group. In the ro16 he drops a game. In the ro8 he 2-0s. In the semifinals he 3 fucking 0s his opponent in a one sided beatdown. And suddenly, seemingly with ease, Nada is back in the OSL finals, the most prestigious Starcraft tournament in the world, against all the odds, overcoming tragedy. He promised that he'd look after his family, that he'd become the best, that he'd win for his father and, to watch him play, you believe it.

On the other side of the stage you have Anytime, a returning champion riding the legend of the fall back when that still meant something. In the fall season one Protoss would rise above all others and smash everyone in truly inspirational style. In 2006, Anytime was that Protoss. Anytime had faced a tough road to the finals, denying Midas back when Midas was legitimately the second best Terran in the world in a fantastic 3-2 series. When Anytime stood in the booth that fall he was the embodiment of the OSL, the best the world had to offer with a tournament of victories and a list of crushed opponents to prove it.

Anytime was, logically speaking, the best in the world. He'd earned his place in the OSL finals against the toughest competition possible at the time and he already had a championship under his belt. He was experienced and he was really, really good. Also a joy to watch if that counts for anything. Furthermore Anytime had story. This was the fall and Anytime was the avatar of a tradition that stretched back to the dawn of progaming. But Nada... Nada was just indescribable. He was playing for something more than another win, more than a golden mouse (yeah, it was a golden mouse finals too), something more than a job. He was playing as a celebration of his dead father, he was playing to walk in that man's footsteps, to provide for his family like his father did, to be as strong as his father, to make him proud. When you first read a Letter to the Sky it's emotive but it's just aspirations. When you reread it a year later as Nada walks onto that stage having dropped just one game on his way to the OSL finals it's more than words. Gentlemen, this, is the OSL.

When I think of the OSL I think of that. There have been other worthy OSL finals since then but I think you'd have a tough time arguing that this has anything like the story of the other.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Mirabel_
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1768 Posts
September 17 2011 13:49 GMT
#109
Beautifully said.
get stronger play longer
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
September 17 2011 14:12 GMT
#110
You need personal tragedy to really enjoy broodwar kwark? thats pretty sad.

Jangbi and Fantasy both have epic storylines coming into this. Fantasy the encumbant OSL champion, dropped 1 game to the finals.
jangbi almost losing SO many times. take down GOD. CONVINCINGLY. Smashing into the finals through soo. its a pretty great story, and the games were pretty exciting. I think you need to stop being quite so nostalgic about things that heppened 5 years ago and start enjoying the future more
Writer
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42539 Posts
September 17 2011 14:16 GMT
#111
On September 17 2011 23:12 Kiante wrote:
You need personal tragedy to really enjoy broodwar kwark? thats pretty sad.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I was trying to say. I like it when puppies die. That's what you should take from what I said.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
gn0m
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden302 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 14:19:29
September 17 2011 14:18 GMT
#112
On September 17 2011 22:11 KwarK wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I think the reason I keep getting invited back to write is because I am a genuine progaming fan who, broadly speaking, knows what's going on and shares that. When awesome shit happens and I'm incredibly hyped I try to share that emotion with you guys. Unfortunately I just didn't feel it for this tournament.

To give some background, the first OSL finals I ever watched was Anytime against Nada. Nada had been the best, a mechanical genius who destroyed all before him until his life was struck with a personal tragedy, the sudden death of his father. He stopped playing and practicing to take time with his family and disappeared off the face of progaming. A few weeks after the funeral he posted this poem.
+ Show Spoiler +
Letter to the Sky

hi this is nada~..
hows ur life goin'?
i am drunk today too~
i am living life with drinks nowdays
u know when u drink, u feel better?
i was walking in the rain after having drinks with friend in the cafe

like...

the rain that is...
father's tear..

my dad always wanted to do some business...
had many failures because of those tries...
but before all those failures
he wanted the happiness of our family...
but... he couldnt...
no... because of that 1 guy...

my dad was very healthy...
very healthy... my dad was very strong...
he wasnt skinny like me
he was big..
and strong..
he never lost vs people
and when we were living in the name of poor
my father fought with gansters only with his 2 hands...

oneday my mother came back home with all bruises over her face
my dad grabbed a metal pipe
and gone to the corporation ..
he leaped over the fence to revenge for my mom...
its like that...
thats how much he loved our family
and thats how strong he was...

but.....

the 1 guy .... drinking driving... and by illegial U-turn
dad is in the sky now...
this ...
this isnt a destiny.. its an error of destiny...
an error of the sky...
the error that never supposed to be happend...

ha.........i still feel empty...
but not a long ago... when i walked in the rain...
i felt it..
it was like...
my father's tear

i...nada...
think i have to get brave back...

i talked with my friends in Gumi(state of korea)... alot of talk...
everyone is living a hard life...
i felt it now...

i realized how happy life i am living while talking with my friends...
i realize it now... now... now i realize...

yes i have to wake up again...
having no practice now is killing me...

if i go back to seoul...
practice hard... so no one can beat me...

and for sure... i will dedicate all those winnings and honors to ..
my father...

i..
im going back ...

dont worry...

im going back to the real nada...

so








remember







i will take care of my family dad..


When you read those words, you become a Nada fan. When you read those words, you believe.

So the OSL comes around and Nada has lost his usual seed because of his break. He's got to come from the qualifiers (called the ODT in those days). He 3-0s his group. In the ro16 he drops a game. In the ro8 he 2-0s. In the semifinals he 3 fucking 0s his opponent in a one sided beatdown. And suddenly, seemingly with ease, Nada is back in the OSL finals, the most prestigious Starcraft tournament in the world, against all the odds, overcoming tragedy. He promised that he'd look after his family, that he'd become the best, that he'd win for his father and, to watch him play, you believe it.

On the other side of the stage you have Anytime, a returning champion riding the legend of the fall back when that still meant something. In the fall season one Protoss would rise above all others and smash everyone in truly inspirational style. In 2006, Anytime was that Protoss. Anytime had faced a tough road to the finals, denying Midas back when Midas was legitimately the second best Terran in the world in a fantastic 3-2 series. When Anytime stood in the booth that fall he was the embodiment of the OSL, the best the world had to offer with a tournament of victories and a list of crushed opponents to prove it.

Anytime was, logically speaking, the best in the world. He'd earned his place in the OSL finals against the toughest competition possible at the time and he already had a championship under his belt. He was experienced and he was really, really good. Also a joy to watch if that counts for anything. Furthermore Anytime had story. This was the fall and Anytime was the avatar of a tradition that stretched back to the dawn of progaming. But Nada... Nada was just indescribable. He was playing for something more than another win, more than a golden mouse (yeah, it was a golden mouse finals too), something more than a job. He was playing as a celebration of his dead father, he was playing to walk in that man's footsteps, to provide for his family like his father did, to be as strong as his father, to make him proud. When you first read a Letter to the Sky it's emotive but it's just aspirations. When you reread it a year later as Nada walks onto that stage having dropped just one game on his way to the OSL finals it's more than words. Gentlemen, this, is the OSL.

When I think of the OSL I think of that. There have been other worthy OSL finals since then but I think you'd have a tough time arguing that this has anything like the story of the other.

Don’t get me wrong, you are an excellent writer and have a very deep understanding of the game. I usually learn a lot from your write-ups of Protoss games. That being said (OSL spoiler below!)
+ Show Spoiler +

This was quite the Cinderella story with Jangbi rising from a massive slump knocking out a formidable TvPer in some of the most exciting games I seen in my life. As reincremate put it in the LR thread:

On September 17 2011 21:38 reincremate wrote:
Jangbi had one hell of a journey where he came so close to defeat only to defy expectations and win.

Knocked out of ODT by Soo, only to get back in the OSL via wildcard games.

Faced elimination going 1-2 in ro16, only to 2-0 tiebreaker group.

Down 0-1 against Flash--2-0 him days later.

Get revenge on Soo, going 3-0 on Zerg favoured maps.

And then the epic finals -- lose games on the maps he "needed" to win on, only to win both games on ShitCarrierfinder.

HEO YEONG MOO FIGHTING!!!

Jangbis road to the finals was indeed one hell of a journey and I think there is loads of hype-worthy material there for a writer such as yourself
-_-
zenyu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States74 Posts
September 17 2011 14:22 GMT
#113
who cares, it's starcraft 1.

User was banned for this post.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
September 17 2011 14:30 GMT
#114
On September 17 2011 17:29 nokz88 wrote:
Brillant article. I really enjoyed the semifinals reviews.

It seems to me that BW game reviews are much more detailed and shows much more strategical depth than SC2 ones. I wonder if SC2 foreign scene is still in need of in-depth game analysts.


It seems to me, at least from the English broadcasts of GSL(haven't watched any other leagues but I assume it's even more prevalent) that the tone is generally casual. None of that nitty-gritty stuff and more just broad info. The observer also doesn't try to be all over the place the way BW observers are at giving every tiny detail. It's definitely more catered to a broad audience. Whereas BW fans, even foreign BW fans, are generally into the details.

For example, I remember watching a particular TvZ in both English and Chinese. English for the high quality vods, Chinese because I can only get the Chinese stream where I live without huge buffering.
Forgot the players. But the commentary left an impression. The terran went for a 2 Rax bunker rush. And the Chinese commentators were screaming the entire time that the zerg cheated and built an extra drone or two which meant his pool would be too late to hold off the rush. While the English commentary barely mentioned the BOs until the bunker went down. To me this really shows that English commentary doesn't really care about details even when they see it easily. They just want to make it look smooth for casual viewers.
Meh
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
September 17 2011 16:09 GMT
#115
I still...
why ..
fantasy
I had all hopes up again in the 5th match when you reacted to jangbis build and then it was 3 vs 2 base ... and ..

carrier, I hate you

Where is my ACE flair
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
September 17 2011 17:23 GMT
#116
While i have no problem with storylines connected to outside the game, stories within the game are important too and this is one of them. There's quite a lot of elements to it too, the ridiculous path to the final, avenging Stork for last OSL, being the first Protoss SL winner for a few years, his mostly terrible form and unfortunate silver history. And then it ended perfectly, all of this leading up to game 5.

There were questionable decisions made prehaps, but if there wasn't we'd have more games like Flash v Jaedong goliath timing push which isn't very entertaining at all really in a final. You don't get crazy comebacks like the one we saw if the leader doesn't do anything wrong.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
September 17 2011 18:16 GMT
#117
Lol, I love the bias against Jangbi and how the game reports just sounds like the writer is really baffled as to how Jangbi won any of them.

I will love this little protoss nevertheless.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
September 17 2011 18:55 GMT
#118
Last time I checked, Kwark was SC2 Diamond.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42539 Posts
September 17 2011 19:25 GMT
#119
On September 18 2011 03:55 blubbdavid wrote:
Last time I checked, Kwark was SC2 Diamond.

This is pretty off topic but I got decently high in masters after a week of playing and then moved to university my internet is incapable of supporting RTS play.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
September 17 2011 20:38 GMT
#120
On September 18 2011 04:25 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 03:55 blubbdavid wrote:
Last time I checked, Kwark was SC2 Diamond.

This is pretty off topic but I got decently high in masters after a week of playing and then moved to university my internet is incapable of supporting RTS play.

Did you have only 30apm or something ? :D
Eagerly awaiting your battle reports for the finals
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