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hejakev
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden518 Posts
August 08 2011 18:05 GMT
#181
"jävla imba" is right. Korea came prepared.

It was pretty sad seeing so many good players not perform their best. It seems like the non-koreans were tired
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
August 08 2011 19:08 GMT
#182
I came expecting fOrGG
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Shirohige
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany398 Posts
August 08 2011 20:12 GMT
#183
And what on earth do we as a community need to do to avoid embarrassment on this scale again?

I am really sick hearing things like that. Most probably it is just me, but I don't like this segregation between koreans and foreigners at all, because it should be a segregation between those training REALLY hard and those who are not, that is all there is to it.

Well, nevermind, besides that I felt really lucky about a great event like that and not embarrassed at all as a community member.
Suffering is good on the path to carnage
Defrath
Profile Joined February 2011
United States30 Posts
August 08 2011 20:30 GMT
#184
Does anyone else think ToD looks like Andy Samberg? The similarities are uncanny.
What is the color of the night?
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
August 08 2011 21:05 GMT
#185
I just hope that Naniwa and Thorzain have great training partners in Korea. Ladder alone won't cut it.
MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
August 08 2011 22:51 GMT
#186
On August 08 2011 20:09 Paladia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 10:43 suejak wrote:
Anybody else think it's really odd that Tyler gets praised for taking out Choya, but nobody mentions that InControl ALSO beat Choya?

I don't think anyone should be praised for beating Choya. Choya wasn't even in Code A, as he is a manager/coach and entered the tournament more for fun than anything else. He is an alright player but as his focus isn't on gaming I am not so sure he is even in the top 100 in Korea.

Tyler on the other hand is the most overrated player together with Spanishiwa in my opinion. Tyler has in the group stages of the past three MLG gone 2-12 in matches. Feels a bit desperate to give him any praise at all.


That's right, Choya and Thebest are one of the lesser tier korean players.
isospeedrix
Profile Joined November 2010
United States215 Posts
August 08 2011 22:52 GMT
#187
Here's a more optimistic way to look at team kill: If the losing player loses to an opponent, better to lose to a teammate (so he gets a better seed/advances) than to lose to someone else.
http://www.youtube.com/isospeedrix
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
August 09 2011 03:37 GMT
#188
On August 09 2011 05:12 Shirohige wrote:
Show nested quote +
And what on earth do we as a community need to do to avoid embarrassment on this scale again?

I am really sick hearing things like that. Most probably it is just me, but I don't like this segregation between koreans and foreigners at all, because it should be a segregation between those training REALLY hard and those who are not, that is all there is to it.

Well, nevermind, besides that I felt really lucky about a great event like that and not embarrassed at all as a community member.

The point of my article was not just about hard work and dedication. It was to point out that Korea has more advantages than just hard work. There are a few foreigners who practice like players on Korean teams, but they still are at a disadvantage, for reasons I explained.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
August 09 2011 09:53 GMT
#189
On August 09 2011 05:12 Shirohige wrote:
Show nested quote +
And what on earth do we as a community need to do to avoid embarrassment on this scale again?

I am really sick hearing things like that. Most probably it is just me, but I don't like this segregation between koreans and foreigners at all, because it should be a segregation between those training REALLY hard and those who are not, that is all there is to it.

There are several foreign players who play 12 hours per day. Training isn't everything.
I can no longer rest under the tree of wisdom, since you have axed down the roots feeding it.
Defrath
Profile Joined February 2011
United States30 Posts
August 09 2011 11:37 GMT
#190
On August 09 2011 18:53 Paladia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 05:12 Shirohige wrote:
And what on earth do we as a community need to do to avoid embarrassment on this scale again?

I am really sick hearing things like that. Most probably it is just me, but I don't like this segregation between koreans and foreigners at all, because it should be a segregation between those training REALLY hard and those who are not, that is all there is to it.

There are several foreign players who play 12 hours per day. Training isn't everything.

That means nothing. Do you honestly believe that koreans have some innate talent that makes them good at Starcraft? No, of course not. The reason their training is stronger is because they have a long established Starcraft "culture" where they train with eachother all day and hammer out match ups. So while one foreigner may train like a Korean in duration, the quality of his opponents may not, thus lowering the quality.
What is the color of the night?
BlueFlames
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1756 Posts
August 09 2011 12:14 GMT
#191
Wow this was the best writeup of a tournament i have read so far. Maybe because your words about boxer could have come right out of my own mouth. Beeing rewarded for beeing a boxer fanboy, made the tournament for me.
Calzu
Profile Joined July 2011
Finland8 Posts
August 09 2011 12:56 GMT
#192
Boxer getting some love and all's right with the world~

Anyway superb writeup, keep em coming.
1a2a3a
MeteorRise
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada611 Posts
August 09 2011 18:21 GMT
#193
Day9 is looking handsome. Also great write up, quality felt amazing as always.
Elegance, in all things.
tripper688
Profile Joined January 2011
United States569 Posts
August 09 2011 21:46 GMT
#194
On August 09 2011 20:37 Defrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 18:53 Paladia wrote:
On August 09 2011 05:12 Shirohige wrote:
And what on earth do we as a community need to do to avoid embarrassment on this scale again?

I am really sick hearing things like that. Most probably it is just me, but I don't like this segregation between koreans and foreigners at all, because it should be a segregation between those training REALLY hard and those who are not, that is all there is to it.

There are several foreign players who play 12 hours per day. Training isn't everything.

That means nothing. Do you honestly believe that koreans have some innate talent that makes them good at Starcraft? No, of course not. The reason their training is stronger is because they have a long established Starcraft "culture" where they train with eachother all day and hammer out match ups. So while one foreigner may train like a Korean in duration, the quality of his opponents may not, thus lowering the quality.


I agree completely, it's not just how much you practice but how well you practice. Hopefully we have more foreigners going over to Korea to get some practice or starting to play primarily on Kr/Eu ladder now. It's the big thing that worries me over the EG house and any new NA progamer team houses that might spring up...yes extra structured practice will help but it's not going to lessen the skill gap if the quality of the opponents is not up to snuff.
"Excuse me I gotta do some vacuuming really fast *vrrrrrrmmmmmmmmm*" Day[9]
hmmm...
Profile Joined March 2011
632 Posts
August 10 2011 07:07 GMT
#195
i just realized how few pages this post has.
katzby
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States110 Posts
August 10 2011 10:16 GMT
#196
Thanks Primadog

Sterling, ePGimix, GoSuSTYX fighting <3
ShamTao
Profile Joined September 2010
United States419 Posts
August 10 2011 19:06 GMT
#197
MMA's haircut is thee coolest thing ever (I think)
In the game of drones, you win or you die!
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 10 2011 23:51 GMT
#198
Feel like ToD may not have gotten the credit he deserved, I believe he too was in the end killed off in a PvP(against Choya even if I am not mistaken?

PvP wins mean nothing in my opinion, volatile and coinflippy as shit.

Great writeup nevertheless, really afraid of EG except for Idra(6 games is seriously scary.

Also Boxer MMA and SlayerS in general doing well warms my heart although I was sad that Alicia was knocked out so early.
WriterXiao8~~
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
August 11 2011 08:54 GMT
#199
On August 10 2011 19:16 katzby wrote:
Thanks Primadog

Sterling, ePGimix, GoSuSTYX fighting <3


No, thank you for stepping in in place of my camera-shyness. I'm sorry that I end up getting all the credit when you done most of the work.
Thank God and gunrun.
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