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GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-01-22 03:57:19
January 22 2005 03:47 GMT
#1
First things first: if you, like me, really really hate spoilers, here is the anti-spoiler package. A possibly useless idea of mine, it's a replay package that contains 7 replays no matter the amount of games that were actually played. This way it's impossible for you to find out who will win after having watched some of the games by using math. If there are fake replays added in this way, they will be sized 0 bytes.

Anti-spoiler replay package: Download


If you don't like spoilers, I suggest you download and stop reading this news post right now, people will post spoilers in this thread and who can blame them?


You can still find individual replays in our replay section of course.

if you appreciate my audio commentary, I have finished the first two games and will commentate the rest of them shortly

game 1 RWA: Download

game 2 RWA: Download


If you want results, go to the liquibet thread, 2nd page: Here


And now to end this news post in the coolest way possible:

GG !!
DANCE ALL DAY
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
January 22 2005 03:53 GMT
#2
excellent idea with the anti spoiling. i really hate that. although i would see immidiatly that some of the files were 0 bytes.
just hoping i can keep the result a secret to myself until i've seen the rest of the rwas
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
January 22 2005 03:54 GMT
#3
hm you can't see that the files are 0 bytes unless you choose to
DANCE ALL DAY
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
January 22 2005 04:27 GMT
#4
You Rule GroT...

Watching anti-spoiler pack... BEST. IDEA. EVER!
ModeratorTL VOD legends: Live2Win, hasuprotoss, Cadical, rinizim, Mani, thedeadhaji, Kennigit, SonuvBob, yakii, fw, pheer, CDRdude, pholon, Uraeus, zatic, baezzi. The contributors make this site what it is. *Props to FakeSteve for respecting the guitar gods*
mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
January 22 2005 04:34 GMT
#5
lol gg! gosu games!
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
January 22 2005 04:36 GMT
#6
Wow that game on LT was awesome.
GroT you are brilliant.
Malmis
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Sweden1569 Posts
January 22 2005 04:45 GMT
#7
I love you grot <3 =]
To Suport@Bethsoft.com: okay so i completed morrowind.. um, can i have my life back now?
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
January 22 2005 04:47 GMT
#8
haha ... had a good laugh at that idea as I just watched an episode of FMP Fumoffu and your methods are very much alike the ones of a certain character from that series
thx
Alpha
Profile Joined September 2004
France1495 Posts
January 22 2005 05:19 GMT
#9
im downloading thr RWA , i like ur commentaries GroT thx a lot
The psi bolts enlighten me.
GG15-Style
Profile Joined September 2004
Panama593 Posts
January 22 2005 05:27 GMT
#10
where are game6et7?no games?
[GG]=best team ever
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
January 22 2005 05:31 GMT
#11
lol, the first spoiler comes in the form of idiocy
DANCE ALL DAY
ram
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Lithuania602 Posts
January 22 2005 05:35 GMT
#12
On January 22 2005 13:47 Ghardo wrote:
haha ... had a good laugh at that idea as I just watched an episode of FMP Fumoffu and your methods are very much alike the ones of a certain character from that series
thx


Haha!! so true =DD

And the game on temple - brilliant!
zurg
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1923 Posts
January 22 2005 05:41 GMT
#13
wow game 5 on lt is really cool
우리는 대-한민국입니다
Alpha
Profile Joined September 2004
France1495 Posts
January 22 2005 05:42 GMT
#14
well it's says c u in game three... im waiting GroT
The psi bolts enlighten me.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
January 22 2005 05:44 GMT
#15
Why is everyone so happy about game 5? Game 5 pissed me off so much.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-01-22 05:46:25
January 22 2005 05:45 GMT
#16
And gj about the anti-spoiler thing Grot.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
LazySCV
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
United States2942 Posts
January 22 2005 06:23 GMT
#17
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NuclearAntelope
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1369 Posts
January 22 2005 06:36 GMT
#18
the anti spoiler doesn't work, i saw the size of the files as i unzipped with winace. so after game 3, i knew who won the series.
people are similar in nature. its the experience of life that makes them so different.
LazySCV
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
United States2942 Posts
January 22 2005 07:02 GMT
#19
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NonYold
Profile Joined April 2004
United States2814 Posts
January 22 2005 07:07 GMT
#20
On January 22 2005 15:36 NuclearAntelope wrote:
the anti spoiler doesn't work, i saw the size of the files as i unzipped with winace. so after game 3, i knew who won the series.


it's possible to unzip without seeing files sizes... i used the anti-spoiler method, and it was fun. thx grot :O
Hot77.iEy
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Finland1486 Posts
January 22 2005 07:14 GMT
#21
On January 22 2005 15:36 NuclearAntelope wrote:
the anti spoiler doesn't work, i saw the size of the files as i unzipped with winace. so after game 3, i knew who won the series.

Right click -> Extract to: ...babo
-.-
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
January 22 2005 08:02 GMT
#22
On January 22 2005 16:07 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2005 15:36 NuclearAntelope wrote:
the anti spoiler doesn't work, i saw the size of the files as i unzipped with winace. so after game 3, i knew who won the series.


it's possible to unzip without seeing files sizes... i used the anti-spoiler method, and it was fun. thx grot :O


Agreed...

Anti spoiler was a great idea GroT. Those were GGs. Gundam seems to be playing TvZ differently now than in old reps I saw of him. He's actually expanding sometimes...
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
January 22 2005 08:30 GMT
#23
On January 22 2005 16:02 LaZyScV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2005 15:36 NuclearAntelope wrote:
the anti spoiler doesn't work, i saw the size of the files as i unzipped with winace. so after game 3, i knew who won the series.


It does work, just don't look at the file size next time.


It's a little hard to ignore though when 7 reps = 400 kb T_T

You know something is up.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Vharox
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States1037 Posts
January 22 2005 14:14 GMT
#24
hey, I don't exactly know how to watch an RWA. I mean, I have BWchart. But then what? O-O
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
January 22 2005 14:56 GMT
#25
Also, could you please just include dummy reps for the non-spoiler games? Using winzip, when I open the zip file the way I have it set it displays file sizes, so I immediately saw how many were 0 size
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
January 22 2005 17:04 GMT
#26
hm i don't know wether it would be smarter to include dummy reps or 0 sized reps next time

oh well at least it worked for some! =)


for RWA you need a program called bwplayer, available for download at http://www.bwchart.com
DANCE ALL DAY
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
January 22 2005 18:50 GMT
#27
On January 23 2005 02:04 GroT wrote:
hm i don't know wether it would be smarter to include dummy reps or 0 sized reps next time


It'll be a chance for you to legitimately plug some of your own reps ^_^
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
January 22 2005 20:03 GMT
#28
play a compstomp on single player using the name Gundam 4-1 Breakdown
then do it again on a different map for however many games are missing from the complete 7
AUSSIESCUM
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GG15-Style
Profile Joined September 2004
Panama593 Posts
January 22 2005 21:34 GMT
#29
which relation with size? i dont understand.there are 5games and after game2 it s 11 so the winner of the game3 win the match.
[GG]=best team ever
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
January 22 2005 22:17 GMT
#30
but why? can't you just click "extract here" and not read it while it's extracting, then go into bw and watch the replays.. ? I don't see why some ppl consider the file size a problem
DANCE ALL DAY
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-01-22 23:33:28
January 22 2005 23:33 GMT
#31
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Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-01-23 01:55:24
January 23 2005 01:54 GMT
#32
GroT I download all files into a directory called Download, then extract them from there. That way, it's easier to clean up the masses of .zip files no longer needed at regular intervals.

I just use double click on WinZip for it.
And the size of the .zip gives it away, too

But I guess it doesn't really matter if it's secret or not, since in the past I've already known the results.
((Stereo))
Profile Joined March 2004
Norway50 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-01-23 02:55:56
January 23 2005 02:54 GMT
#33
On January 22 2005 17:30 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2005 16:02 LaZyScV wrote:
On January 22 2005 15:36 NuclearAntelope wrote:
the anti spoiler doesn't work, i saw the size of the files as i unzipped with winace. so after game 3, i knew who won the series.


It does work, just don't look at the file size next time.


It's a little hard to ignore though when 7 reps = 400 kb T_T

You know something is up.


No, 'cause many reps have size about 50kb, and it's normal too.
My life for Kvithylla!
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-01-23 04:27:54
January 23 2005 04:24 GMT
#34
The anti-spoiler idea was a good one. Especially considering how close game 5 becomes .

Unfortunately, I had already looked in the replays section of the site and saw that there were only 5 games . Next time, though, I'll dl the anti-spoiler pack and watch the games before looking in there .

Edit: And yeah, it's pretty hard not to see that the total size of all the files is suspiciously small. Next time, just make 1 or 2 fake games on the correct maps and hotkey spam with another player for about 5 minutes. Or rename real replays that were played on the correct maps. Or rename any real replays regardless of map, since with your current method the fake reps don't show the correct map anyway . You could use old, gosu games and they'd be like bonus replays for anyone who hadn't seen them before .
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
January 23 2005 04:58 GMT
#35
On January 22 2005 14:27 GG15-Style wrote:
where are game6et7?no games?

Haha
read...
Enter a Uh
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
January 23 2005 05:13 GMT
#36
Really awesome games, and big thanks to grot for keeping these contacts with the players! gj man
Enter a Uh
NuclearAntelope
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1369 Posts
January 23 2005 06:19 GMT
#37
On January 22 2005 16:02 LaZyScV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2005 15:36 NuclearAntelope wrote:
the anti spoiler doesn't work, i saw the size of the files as i unzipped with winace. so after game 3, i knew who won the series.


It does work, just don't look at the file size next time.

well as soon as winace opened i glanced to make sure it was all there, and the "0 kb" just stuck out !
people are similar in nature. its the experience of life that makes them so different.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
January 23 2005 08:53 GMT
#38
On January 23 2005 11:54 ((Stereo)) wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2005 17:30 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On January 22 2005 16:02 LaZyScV wrote:
On January 22 2005 15:36 NuclearAntelope wrote:
the anti spoiler doesn't work, i saw the size of the files as i unzipped with winace. so after game 3, i knew who won the series.


It does work, just don't look at the file size next time.


It's a little hard to ignore though when 7 reps = 400 kb T_T

You know something is up.


No, 'cause many reps have size about 50kb, and it's normal too.


The only time reps are ever that small are on small maps (ie, Bifrost), most normal sized maps will have a much higher minimum, plus when you consider how many actions higher level players make, most reps are 100kb+, and I knew they wouldn't played all the game on Bifrost, so... 7 reps = 400 kb is suspicious to me. ^_^
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GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
January 23 2005 15:38 GMT
#39
ok ok i'll use fake, sizeable replays next time if needed
DANCE ALL DAY
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
January 23 2005 22:52 GMT
#40
we want rwas for games 3+4+5

GROT IS THE KING
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Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
January 24 2005 02:30 GMT
#41
SURE THING
MoogleSATx
Profile Joined December 2004
United States439 Posts
January 24 2005 04:21 GMT
#42
rwa's plz!.... for 3 4 5 :D
I can beat you one handed
Chris307
Profile Joined June 2004
3095 Posts
January 24 2005 18:51 GMT
#43
This is an idea I've had for quite a long time

I also had the ideas for The Clapper and Chia Pets. I need to start taking action

I'm not letting this California Sand idea slip through my hands like the rest. LOOK FOR ME ON EBAY
PUSH DICE CUP BACK AND I SHOOT CRAP
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
January 24 2005 20:24 GMT
#44
.....and will commentate the rest of them shortly
lets discuss the word shortly grot! hehe
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
January 25 2005 00:35 GMT
#45
i did commentate them shortly, mani is just no longer around to make them available for you T_T
DANCE ALL DAY
j-man
Profile Joined August 2004
United States153 Posts
January 25 2005 11:44 GMT
#46
so upload them elsewhere
Fignuts!
Milzo
Profile Joined March 2004
France656 Posts
January 25 2005 13:44 GMT
#47
@gosureplays.com for example
Response
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States1936 Posts
January 26 2005 04:47 GMT
#48
please upload them somewhere!!! im not watching them til they are in rwa format;P www.gosureplays.com is where i submit mine PLEASE upload them i dying here
the REAL ReSpOnSe
Koyiro
Profile Joined September 2003
United States18 Posts
January 27 2005 00:12 GMT
#49
yeah yeah I cant watch them at all, getting a 404 so yeah upload them somewhere plz
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