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mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-02-05 00:24:37
February 05 2003 00:17 GMT
#1
Just the results first:


1) Jinsu (Z) ("Jang Jin-su") > [Oops]Reach (P) - Gaema Gowon
2) Sir@Soni~(Z) ("Lee Jae-hang") < [Oops]Lee (T) ("Lee Woon-jae") - Gaema Gowon
3) [Oops]Lee (T) > Jinsu (Z) - Neo Forbidden Zone -> [Oops]Lee qualifies for the nest OGN Starleague
4) Sir@Soni~ (Z) > [Oops]Reach (P) - Avant Garde II
5) Sir@Soni~(Z) < Jinsu (Z) - Neo Bifrost -> Jinsu qualifies for the nest OGN Starleague


So, [Oops]Lee makes it into another Starleague and shows that he's no fluke. Lee (@8) somehow managed to win a shootout v Sir@Soni~ (@11) on Gaema Gowon when the Zerg player had his forces outnumbered and outgunned for the longest time. Lee at one point even almost had his natural pushed completely by wave after wave of lurkers. Both players seemed nervous and tentative and Lee never really got into his rhythm until the very end when he started effectively touring with M&M + tank + vessels. Sir@Soni~ never really got into his rhythm at all. Lots of control and strategic mistakes in this one, but hey, a win's a win.

Lee's victory over Jinsu was much better played. And a real shootout (Are ANY of Lee's games NOT a shootout? A candidate for "Desperate Terran II?" What say you, Bertrand?). And Lee showed why he used to be called (and may yet be again in the near future...) "The Living Marine." Lee (@11) opened with an interesting no expo 2 rax M&M + upgrades. Lee never even attempted to move out from his main until he had a sizable M&M battle group ready with vessel and ship support. Jinsu (@5) went quick muta/scourge, hoping to catch Lee napping with his dropships, but Lee had planned for it and matrixed his ships whenever they had cargo. Jinsu tried mass expoing then did a neat switch to Guardians that almost caught Lee off-guard, but Jinsu didn't have an effective counter for Lee's vessels and was never really able to take advantage. It was a back-and-forth game the rest of the way with Lee dropping on Jinsu's expos all over the place, while Jinsu desperately tried to counter with lurker/hydra, then lurker/hydra/defiler combos. In the end tho, Jinsu wasn't able to raze even a single one of Lee's expos (Lee's natural and the 8 natural) and that cost him the match. Entertaining stuff. Lee did a nice job defending his expos and once again proved why you never let a T player fully upgrade M&Ms 3/3 (yep, 3/3) if you're a Zerg. Lee even tackled Jinsu's natural which was defended by 7 sunkens with just M&Ms - and wasted them all without breaking a sweat. Wow. Anyway, Lee ain't the flashiest Terran player around, but he gets the job done. The Living Marine cometh!

As happy as [Oops]Lee was to qualify for another Starleague, it's next to nothing compared to the ecstatic joy Jinsu must've felt. Not only is Jinsu in his first Starleague, he made it after EIGHT failed attempts over FOUR excruciatingly long years! Talk about an exercise in futility. If Jinsu had failed again this time (after such a strong showing in the Challenge League and that heart-breaking loss to Nal_rA on Neo Bifrost), I would've had to recommend a name change: "Susan Lucci_Forever." But, he didn't fail. And now he has the chance to finally move out of his brother's considerable shadow and become more than just one-half of the best 2v2 team in the world.

Jinsu did it in style, too. Not only did he handily defeat the reigning OGN Champion Reach (as bad as he is these days...), but he even managed to psych out the win versus the ZvZ specialist Sir@Soni~. Reach (@11) tried a cute 1 gate main + 2 proxy gate hardcore zealot rush on Jinsu. Jinsu (@8) had started an early natural and panicked for a bit before regaining composure. After that initial outburst from the Hero Toss tho, it was all Jinsu. Reach tried switching to goon/temps/zealots, but I got the feeling he had banked everything on the proxy gates. Reach just got bottled up inside his main and was never allowed to expand. Got slowly squeezed by wave after wave of hydra/lurker/speedlings. Jinsu's victory over Sir@Soni~ on Neo Bifrost was even more impressive - because Jinsu got outplayed and out-strategized, but won the mind game and the match. It was a muta/scourge/ling fight right from the start. Jinsu was the aggressor most of the game, playing cat-and-mouse muta/ling harrass. Jae-hang concentrated more on steady tech and expansion and was obviously outplaying Jinsu for 99% of the game - nothing Jinsu tried seemed to work. But, as with almost all ZvZ games, Jae-hang lost one decisive muta battle and that was the match. Jae-hang should've been more aggressive. He was obviously playing better, better control, forces virtually even. But, Jinsu just psyched him out and forced his opponent to play scared. Excellent, excellent win.

Sir@Soni~ goes back to his IS team with his tail between his legs. Kind of felt bad for him - his parents were in the audience to cheer him on.

And Reach...what can I say? This guy is in a serious slump. And another Protoss bites the proverbial dust. Only two more groups left in the Duel Tournament and only two more Protoss players, Zeus and forU. If neither of them make it, we will have the lowest Protoss race turnout in any Starleague ever - just one (Kingdom, who received an automatic seed due to his 1st place finish in the Challenge League).

Anyone wanna place bets...?


NEXT: Boxer (T), Gyuntae (Z), Jinnam (Z), Zeus (P)
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
February 05 2003 00:22 GMT
#2
@!$@^#&%& FINALLY! The site's upload news function wasn't working for some reason...

And I only see forU making it (he was relatively lucky with his draw). He'll do battle in the same Group as Sync (T), Silent_Control (T) and Junwi (Z). forU's one of the very best PvT players on the planet and he's quite capable of beating anyone in his Group.

He's toast tho if he draws Junwi on Neo Bifrost - TWICE.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
adObO_GoD
Profile Joined October 2002
Philippines121 Posts
February 05 2003 00:40 GMT
#3
i wish they would release some vods :p
heh!
orca
Profile Joined January 2003
Israel469 Posts
February 05 2003 01:24 GMT
#4
i'd love to get a vod of that zvz...
Post edited for grammar.
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
February 05 2003 02:00 GMT
#5
Bets?

Zeus dont have a snowball's chance in Hell, paired with the devil zerg himself and the returning - no way.

ForU is another story, the guy is (as mens said) about the best PvT in this galaxy right now. Let's just hope he won't draw Junwi. And Sync may very well qualify too, the guy ain't no pushover. Silent_Control is not Starleague material .. yet.
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Profile Joined January 2003
Sweden1368 Posts
February 05 2003 02:43 GMT
#6
ZeuS loses straight games, have to agree with ToKoreaWithLove that SilentControl ain't Starleague material - Zeus ain't either.

Think it's gonna be all about Boxer/Jinnam, if Gyuntae gets drawn vs ZeuS first game he's gonna be a challenger though.
h e l l o e
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
February 05 2003 04:45 GMT
#7
I remember naz putting Zeus as top 3 toss in korea-__- quite sad if the top 3 toss don't stand a chance- though I like zeus and I would very much like him winning! GOGOGOGOGOGO ZEUS & forU ^___^

Regards FrozenArbiter
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
esk0
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden1393 Posts
February 05 2003 06:09 GMT
#8
go gyuntae!
irfan_pe
Profile Joined November 2002
Peru39 Posts
February 05 2003 06:31 GMT
#9
Sad not to see Reach and Nal_rA in the next Ongamenet
It's a real shame
Long life to Mensrea wherever you are
Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
February 05 2003 08:39 GMT
#10
Zeus/Boxer,ForU/Silent_Control
MadFrog : In my opinion, the biggest reason why WC3 is dying is because it is not such a great game as Brood War is.
NoName
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1558 Posts
February 05 2003 10:09 GMT
#11
I have a couple of Lee losses vs P on wgtour... Even if he wasn't trying his hardest, it seems TvP is his weakest matchup. But you can be a world class gamer without the greatest vs P skills.

Wam-bam-ba-boom! Bada-bing!
uLti-ScT-
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany104 Posts
February 05 2003 10:23 GMT
#12
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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
February 05 2003 14:59 GMT
#13
all these groups are insanely hard..... each one of them are almost "groups of death". But fun part is.... The StarLeague is even tougher
Stiff
Profile Joined November 2002
Bulgaria49 Posts
February 05 2003 16:09 GMT
#14
Want protoss in Starleague!!!
What the ...??? 2 12ves zealots in the 3rd minute???? DAMN CHEATER!
BosNia)_zL.99
Profile Joined February 2003
Canada98 Posts
February 13 2003 11:06 GMT
#15
ZeuS is good, and I agreed when Naz said zeus is top 3 toss or whatever because [Oops]Reach is having some bad games as well. Everyone has bad games that's why this game is so fun, you never know who's gonna win unless youir 0-5 or 0-9 vs someone.
soon too june ^_^
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