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[IEM] Balance

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[IEM] Balance

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February 27th, 2011 12:10 GMT
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(Wiki)IEM Season V - World Championship


Six months ago, the Intel Extreme Masters tournament at Gamescom Cologne came to a close. In the first major offline tournament in Starcraft 2's history, a global audience became familiar for the first time with the major players in the European scene and saw how up-and-comers, like Huk and DeMuslim, performed at their first SC2 live event. A major theme running through that tournament was imbalance: Morrow's 5 rax reaper play and his 3-1 win over Idra in the finals led to a 185-page thread on Team Liquid that was ultimately locked due to too much QQ. Additionally, for a tournament dubbed the "Global Challenge", the player list was very skewed towards Europeans: 13 players from the EU participated, 3 from the US, and zero from Korea.

In stark contrast to the tournament that ended half a year ago, the theme of the Intel Extreme Masters World Championship is balance. With five Europeans, three North Americans, three Koreans, and one Australian, this event will be the first ever offline SC2 tournament with a truly international composition. Furthering the theme, there are four Terran players, four Zerg players, and four Protoss players in attendance, with two of each race in each of the two groups. The games this weekend will be broadcast in English, German, Russian, Polish, Portuguese, Spanish, and Chinese. Most excitingly for English fans, the ESL has brought in a truly great trio of casters: Day[9], TheLittleOne, and Rotterdam, who will switch off on casting duties throughout the week.

The qualification method for this tournament involved ESL events all corners of the globe and granted fresh prominence to previously unknown casters and players alike. KellyMilkies, for example, was the main commentator for the IEM SEA qualifiers.

IEM Gamescom was the first great offline SC2 tournament, and the IEM World Championship looks to continue ESL's track record of excellence. This event will truly live up to its name. Get ready for an outstanding week of Starcraft 2 action!

Daily Schedule
March 1st -- Group A
March 2nd -- Group B
March 3rd -- Quarterfinals
March 4th -- Semifinals
March 5th -- Grand Finals

All streams are free in LQ, and will not use Octoshape.


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Group A
Group B
(T)QXC(T)Fenix
(Z)MorroW(Z)mOOnGLaDe
(P)White-Ra(P)Socke
(T)Tarson(T)SjoW
(Z)IdrA(P)Squirtle
(P)Ace(Z)Moon


Place
Prize Money
1st$13,000
2nd$6,500
3rd$4,000
4th$2,500
5th/6th$800
7th/8th$400
9th/10th$400
11th/12th$400


The North Americans


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Arguably the top three players from their region, (T)Fenix, (T)QXC, and (Z)IdrA have show consistent results throughout their respective careers. Fenix and qxc qualified for this event through IEM America, where Fenix beat qxc 3-1 in the finals in a series that exhibited his excellent TvT. Fenix solidified himself as a fantastic TvT player when he beat oGsTOP 3-1 to take 3rd place in Dreamhack last November. Though he hasn't shown spectacular results in MLGs so far, he recently qualified for TSL 3 due to his excellent performance in TL Opens.

Qxc has similarly put out a steady stream of tournament wins and top finishes. After showing respectable results in MLGs, he won the second EG Master's Cup tournament in December, moved to Spain to study abroad, dropped by Assembly (only to get knocked out by (P)HuK), and qualified for the TSL by winning a TL Open. His TvZ was strong enough to scare Idra at MLG DC and neither his TvT nor TvP are glaring weaknesses.

Idra, now that he has moved back to the States, is the best player outside of Korea. With consistently improving finishes in each GSL season, Idra proved that he can hang at the top in the most competitive SC2 scene in the world. Since winning the King of the Beta tournament, he's won every foreign tournament he's entered ( at least, he's won the ones that didn't have Kulas Ravine in the mappool. Come on, MLG!). We'll see if he can continue his success here at IEM.

The Europeans


The five European players, (P)White-Ra, (T)SjoW, (P)Socke, (T)Tarson, and (Z)MorroW, are some of the best that Europe has to offer.

The finals of IEM Europe featured two players, White-Ra and Sjow, who have taken radically different paths to get where they are. The winner of that finals, Sjow, was a 2v2 player in WC3 before taking up Starcraft 2, and has been wildly inconsistent in his short career. At one point, right after IEM Europe, he was able to confidently claim the title of top European Terran, and there were talks of him going to Korea to pursue a berth in Code A of GSL. But recently, Sjow has been on a major cold streak, losing to two unknown tosses in Assembly and to a Protoss named "Bubbles" in the FXOpen. He also wasn't able to qualify for TSL 3. Just yesterday, though, Sjow was able to beat EG.Axslav in a Bo7 showmatch, so there are signs that his TvP might be coming back to life.

The other finalist and the runner-up at IEM Europe was White-Ra, a fixture of both the SC:BW and SC2 communities. Only taking time off from crushing his enemies to get married, White-Ra has shown consistently excellent play. From his win of the HDH way back at the beginning of the beta, to his 3rd place finish at Blizzcon, to his 2nd place at IEM Europe, White-Ra has never given his fans reason to believe that he'll ever show anything but top-level Protoss play.

Morrow is perhaps the first player in Starcraft history to qualify for a massive tournament with one race and participate in it with another. His disassembly of Idra during IEM Cologne left the world screaming about Terran imbalance, yet Morrow switched races to Zerg shortly thereafter (claiming Terran was too easy in terms of mechanics), leading Idra to famously make the proclamation that if Morrow ever won a prize tournament with that race, he'd never say the word "balance" again. Multiple patches and several Terran nerfs later, that promise perhaps no longer holds any weight, but Idra's prediction seems to have taken the form of a curse: second place finishes in the SCreddit invitational, in Assembly, and in a TLopen mean that Morrow is likely itching to get the silver monkey off his back and win a major tournament with his new race. He's certainly got the skills to pull it off.

Frankly, I know nothing about Tarson, except that he was a SC:BW Terran who was brutally murdered by Nony during TSL 2. Check the comments of this story; Tarson fans may have written some facts about their favorite player if they aren't too busy yelling at me for being ignorant.

Socke rounds out the field, a top level Protoss with a few big money finishes under his belt. He isn't even supposed to be here at this tournament; he replaces DeMusliM, who is still suffering from his injury. Yet Morrow famously won IEM Cologne, even though he wasn't supposed to be there either (he replaced a player who had visa issues). Socke has history on his side, and having the EPS Germany title doesn't hurt, either.

Three Koreans and an Aussie


Amazingly, all four of these qualifiers were in Code A, and all four lost. $13,000 in prize money at IEM might be a worthy consolation prize, though.

(Z)Moon was almost certainly invited because of his celebrity status. The legendary WC3 player has been showing poorer results than his teammate, Lyn, and, to me, it seems like Zerg is just the wrong race for his style. Whatever the reason, Moon is probably weaker than most of the foreigners in this competition.

(P)Ace is an ex-BW player who got an incredible amount of hype during his time on MBCGame Hero and then never actually accomplished anything. Now in SC2, he's managed to be stunningly mediocre, losing to weak players in the GSL, but showing pretty good results in team leagues.

(Z)mOOnGLaDe is a man with beautiful ZvT. He didn't show it in his Code A games, but this Aussie's ZvT is a work of art. He plays a very Idra-like management game, but in the games I've seen, he does it even better than Idra: in the FXOpen game I watched he didn't lose a single mutalisk unnecessarily, keeping the Terran restricted to two bases through fantastic harass and army control. His weakness is a lackluster ZvP.

(P)Squirtle lost his recent GSL games vs Supernova, but we'll forgive him for that since he's just a cool player all around. With an all-kill in the GSTL, a legendary game vs MVP, innovative builds in his GSL appearances, and a screenname that makes countless jokes during GSL casts possible, Squirtle will be a fan favorite heading into this tournament. We'll see whether he can evolve his play to a high enough level to allow him to win it all.

Interview with Rotterdam


Hey! Thanks for doing this interview. Can you introduce yourself and tell us how you're involved with the IEM World Finals in Hannover?
Hai, of course. So my name is Kevin "RotterdaM" van der Kooi, a former professional Wc3 player and casted quite some tournaments as well, most famous ones would be GOMTV World Invitional 2008 and the WCG's 2008/2009/2010. Nowadays I'm working for ESL as their English mainly SC II Commentator, and since IEM is an ESL product, I'm obviously part of the process :D

In the regional championships for IEM, the map pool was simply the 9 Blizzard ladder maps. Has this map pool changed for the world championship?
Yes it changed a little bit, the system they use is the following: there are 7 maps (BS, DQ, Meta, LT, Scrap, Shakuras and XNC), both players have 2 vetoes in the groupstage and 1 in the playoffs since its Bo5 from there on. I have to say though I have absolutely 0 saying in that whatsoever, I'm not a league admin and they never ask for my opinion, unfortunately

How exactly will you be splitting casting duties with Day[9] and TLO?
We will rotate throughout the entire tournament, making sure no one gets too exhausted or whatsoever since the days are quite long ( we have to be there at the event every day at 7 AM haha - I don't think Dario knows this yet btw, will be unpleasant news I think ) but in general I prefer to cast games with Toss involved since that's my race and I know a lot more about it than TvZ or ZvZ for instance so I'll try to get the toss games in general , but in general we will just rotate, so we might start with Day9 + me, then Day9 + TLO, then TLO and me etc etc.

How do you think the three Koreans will perform against the best Europe and North America have to offer? Who among the Koreans do you think will do the best?
Very hard to say, I'm very excited to see them play and cast their games :D, I think they'll do fine but I don't expect 3 Koreans in the top 4 for instance, that would be a big surprise for me. I personally think Squirtle will perform best, was super impressed when I watched his games but I have to admit I'm not a super GSL insider. I'm focusing a lot on the European scene, so I'm just gonna let them pleasantly surprise me :D, of course as a former Wc3 player I'm looking very forward to see Moon, but it seems so far he's not really been able to make the difference in SC II .

Give us one awesome detail about this tournament that we don't know already (like whether or not the dreaded Octoshape has been done away with!). If ESL has already announced everything, give us one thing you're personally really excited about.
Haha, No worries, we are not streaming via Octoshape anymore so that's nothing to worry about. For all news whatsoever just keep a close eye on the Intel Extreme Masters page but personally I have too much to look forward to :D. Casting with Day9 is of course an awesome experience and I think we'll do really well, it's nice that he has the ultimate Broodwar Background and I'm pretty much a Wc3 Veteran ( Okay I entered the pro scene in 2005 but that's quite a while already ), but for every event the thing I look most forward to by far is just meeting the players and guys that I like in general. I'm absolutely sure I'm gonna have a great time once more with TLO, Sjow, White-ra, Tarson since they're just really nice and humble guys and guaranteed fun to hang out with and of course shouldn't forget Idra, who I unfortunately don't see that much considering he's living in the USA but we always had quite some fun when we did meet up so its great to have The Gracken! here as well. :D But in the end more I just hope we're gonna see great StarCraft games that we hopefully will remember for a long long time, because that is in the end of the day, the reason why we are all there and the reason everyone is watching at home, but with these players one would say that almost can't go wrong.

Prediction time! Who do you think will make it out of each group?
Hard to make a proper prediction and I kinda don't like to do it since I'm one of the hosts for this tournament, but it would be a bit lame to back out so for one time I'll do it. My guess is that Idra wins group A with White-Ra and MorroW taking 2nd and 3rd, for Group B its a bit tougher because we are still not sure whether or not DeMuslim will be recovered from his elbow injury in time and unfortunately I don't think he will (Editor's Note: ) but I think Squirtle will win the group with Moon and MoonGlade taking 2nd and 3rd place, even though honestly every player can advance and I'm quite sure my predictions ain't flawless haha, but well, gave it a good go .

Okay well, thanks for the interview! Good luck at the event!
Thanks to you <3




Whoever wins the Intel Extreme Masters World Championship will be a top class player, because we only have top class players in the lineup! Whatever happens, I know it will be spectacular. Enjoy the games!

Thanks to Pholon for making the interview with Rotterdam possible.
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Kwaa
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden91 Posts
February 27 2011 12:12 GMT
#2
Idra fighting, show them who's boss!
MACRO HARD!
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
February 27 2011 12:13 GMT
#3
Thanks for the writeup, great work Team Liquid!
Support your esport!
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
February 27 2011 12:14 GMT
#4
IEM is gonna be amazing

MorroW vs IdrA rematch gogogogo
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Tyxiquale
Profile Joined September 2008
Australia424 Posts
February 27 2011 12:16 GMT
#5
awesome! looking forward to this.
Dumb people don't know that they're dumb.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
February 27 2011 12:18 GMT
#6
Ugh I really wished they had invited some stronger korean players...
I know, the even collides heavily with the ongoing GSL seasons,
but still, they should be able to work something out together with the GSL organizers.
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
February 27 2011 12:25 GMT
#7
dammmn impressive lineup
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
February 27 2011 12:27 GMT
#8
Great writeup and a REALLY good interview with rotterdam. Seems like a good group of players, much diversity in both style, race and nationality. I'm also looking forward to see the different casting duo
-,-
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
February 27 2011 12:31 GMT
#9
ah so hyped!!! And Ive holiday <33
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eltese
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden369 Posts
February 27 2011 12:31 GMT
#10
Great write-up , should be an interesting event. MorroW vs IdrA is going to be epic
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
February 27 2011 12:32 GMT
#11
Haha, No worries, we are not streaming via Octoshape anymore so that's nothing to worry about.

Excellent. I uninstalled that thing a while ago, and it seems like I'll still be able to enjoy IEM without it's annoyances. I look forward to an excellent stream, especially with Day9 and TLO casting.
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Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-27 12:33:40
February 27 2011 12:33 GMT
#12
I'll be interested to see Morrows games, he has been rather inconsistent lately. Looking very strong at times and quite shaky at others.
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shaunnn
Profile Joined October 2010
Ireland1230 Posts
February 27 2011 12:33 GMT
#13
Awesome write-up really excited to see how morrow and socke do at this considering they are both on a really good form atm, bit worried for sjow and white-ra as they have seemed to let off the steam a bit but who knows.

As a consequence of demuslim not being able to play any chance if he will be casting?, him+rotti is almost as amazing as tastosis
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Pervect
Profile Joined June 2007
1280 Posts
February 27 2011 12:37 GMT
#14
Pumped for this shit. White-ra's going to take this bitch down
Robqxz
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany78 Posts
February 27 2011 12:45 GMT
#15
I find it somewhat disappointing that there are not too many games a day and the tournament has to be spread over five days. I would very much like to go to Hannover for a day, but if i'm only gonna be able to watch one or two series, i'm not sure if it is worth the money I'd have to pay for travelling.


Anyway, GREAT lineup. Really looking forward to the matches.
By the way, is it a coincidence that every group consists of 2 Terran/Protoss/Zerg each, or were they arranged this way?
You can't spell Voidray without 'idra'.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
February 27 2011 12:46 GMT
#16
On February 27 2011 21:45 Robqxz wrote:
I find it somewhat disappointing that there are not too many games a day and the tournament has to be spread over five days. I would very much like to go to Hannover for a day, but if i'm only gonna be able to watch one or two series, i'm not sure if it is worth the money I'd have to pay for travelling.


The reason for this, is that the event is 5 days(tuesday till saturday) and IEM didn't want the main tournament(let's be honest, SC > all ) to be done in 2-3 days and have nothing to show on the other days
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AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
February 27 2011 12:48 GMT
#17
mOOnGLaDe and White-Ra are definitely who I'm going to be rooting for the hardest, I'm really glad they're in separate groups. I'm a bit surprised they're using DQ in the mappool, but at least the veto system is there to help out my Zerg buddies
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
February 27 2011 12:54 GMT
#18
rotty must be drunk again, predicting 4 zergs to make it trough But that's ok, we love him this way :D
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
February 27 2011 12:58 GMT
#19
Dario will be Casting?
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whaty0uwant
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand346 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-27 13:02:55
February 27 2011 12:59 GMT
#20
Wow, since when is moon attending? sick! This tournament is gonna own. Gah everyone is too hard on moon, his macro is outstanding for how long he has been playing starcraft, his only problem is his game know how, ie decision making.. this is easily seen if you watch his games in the gsl.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-27 13:01:33
February 27 2011 13:00 GMT
#21
Seems like a strong pool of players, excepting the Korean invites. Idra is the heavy favorite IMO. Moon will be eliminated early. Ace probably somewhere in the middle of the pack. Squirtle has a great shot at a top 3 finish, assuming we see the squirtle from GSTL and not the squirtle from code A. I recognize all the names of the NA and Euro players but I don't follow those scenes close enough to predict how each of them will do.
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
February 27 2011 13:02 GMT
#22
Great article!!
I especially like that the article is actually hyping up the event (a lot of Germans complain constantly about the ESL but in the end events like this are just awesome :D)

Too bad I cant go to Hannover myself because of too much work though ;p
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
February 27 2011 13:03 GMT
#23
Jesus tapdancing Christ this got me pumped!

Just to get this straight: On tuesday we are going to see a ZvZ between morrow and idra, right?

This is better than christmas!
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Meldon
Profile Joined May 2010
Greece128 Posts
February 27 2011 13:03 GMT
#24
Morrow vs Idra yeeeeeeehhhh!!!!
Yashu Masha
theBlues
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
El Salvador638 Posts
February 27 2011 13:06 GMT
#25
fenix is not from North America...
Change a vote, and change the world
nRoot
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany928 Posts
February 27 2011 13:14 GMT
#26
I have an exam on thursday, ouch :[

games will be great I'm sure
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
February 27 2011 13:19 GMT
#27
On February 27 2011 22:03 Badboyrune wrote:
Jesus tapdancing Christ this got me pumped!

Just to get this straight: On tuesday we are going to see a ZvZ between morrow and idra, right?

This is better than christmas!



threads will explode this day :|


damn shame that i have to work from monday to wednesday... ._.
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Karok
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands142 Posts
February 27 2011 13:19 GMT
#28
Will there be VODs up after the events?
Aikin
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria532 Posts
February 27 2011 13:21 GMT
#29
On February 27 2011 22:06 TheBlueMeaner wrote:
fenix is not from North America...


Yeah but he qualified at the NA qualifier and plays on that server. Thats why he has a "NA Spot"
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cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
February 27 2011 13:22 GMT
#30
can't wait to see some squirtle ownage, water pump go !
Cyberus
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany148 Posts
February 27 2011 13:23 GMT
#31
Idra you better make it to the semis, cause I'll be at cebit on friday to cheer for you ;-)
It's gonna be a awesome event
weaknurse
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia320 Posts
February 27 2011 13:23 GMT
#32
Are the group games best of one?
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
February 27 2011 13:24 GMT
#33
On February 27 2011 22:23 weaknurse wrote:
Are the group games best of one?


bo3
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-27 13:27:07
February 27 2011 13:25 GMT
#34
fuck it this tournament is timed so bad for me :[ having an exam on thursday the 3rd, but well... might watch the last two days (though i have to prepare for another exam on the 17th -_-)

as a former Moon fan i have to cheer for him! go Moon Other than that, MorroW vs IdrA will probably be fun and could summon a shitstorm on the forums if MorroW wins

btw: great interview with Rotterdam, was very fun to read.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
February 27 2011 13:36 GMT
#35
It's a shame they didn't manage to get any Code S level koreans for this tournament, but it's gonna be awesome anyway with White-Ra, IdrA and Morrow there :D.
Klaent
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden374 Posts
February 27 2011 13:41 GMT
#36
Morrow vs Idra, cant wait! Shut him up Morrow!
"On a scale from 1 to Idra, how mad are you right now?" -ROOTDestiny
mr.piNk
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)16 Posts
February 27 2011 13:48 GMT
#37
good to live close to hannover and good to be student with lots of free time!

I'm going to watch the grand finals live! really looking forward to it!
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
February 27 2011 13:50 GMT
#38
good read
banelings
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
February 27 2011 13:54 GMT
#39
Looking forward to Day9+Dario combination tbh
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
havox_
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-27 14:03:47
February 27 2011 14:03 GMT
#40
On February 27 2011 22:02 marcesr wrote:
I especially like that the article is actually hyping up the event (a lot of Germans complain constantly about the ESL but in the end events like this are just awesome :D)

Germans complain about the ESL, cuz (as you know) the events here arent always that perfect...
But imho the last international events have always been a blast.

Obv amazing lineup, but hey, which other event has such a long and intense qualification period...
Socke will be a great replacement for DeMusliM (and just to remember everybody: he earned the spot by placing 5th at the IEM Euro finals)... we'll have to see about the Korean performance though - obv not their best players, but Ace and Squirtle are able to show strong games.


Depending on who qualifies for the final days, I might def make the trip to Hannover =)
Kar98
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia924 Posts
February 27 2011 14:11 GMT
#41
Moonglade fighting :D. Never heard TLO cast so that will be cool to see as well with his awesome german accent :D
Blueblister
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden321 Posts
February 27 2011 14:17 GMT
#42
Copy paste from Tarsons Ranking page on GosuGamers, where he's currently ranked third:

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Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
February 27 2011 14:22 GMT
#43


Why must this be on weekdays in the morning?
Such epic commentators, and I'm gonna miss it!!
<3 you Rotterdam btw!!
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
February 27 2011 14:27 GMT
#44
Moonglade is sooo good. Destination knocked him out in Code A because he's also extremely good, but I expect him to perform even better at IEM.
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xlat
Profile Joined August 2010
176 Posts
February 27 2011 14:41 GMT
#45
yay no Octoshape!
im so excited about this round of iem! gl to everyone
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
February 27 2011 14:46 GMT
#46
To bad we can't get to see White-Ra vs IdrA finals... but its gonna be a great tournament!!
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
February 27 2011 14:50 GMT
#47
The games will be broadcast in English, German, Russian, Polish, Portuguese, Spanish, and Chinese.


No love for French? D: D:
Not that I care, Frenchies need to work on their poor English anyway, but hey gotta point it out. ;D


Anyway looks like some great stuff right here. Surprised that TLO is gonna commentate. I like the list of players here. Rooting for Idra and Whitera. ;D

Something that would be great to see is Idra vs Morrow. ;
maru lover forever
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
February 27 2011 15:01 GMT
#48
It's impossible to not read that interview in Rotterdam's enthusiastic Dutch/English talking voice. :lol
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
February 27 2011 15:12 GMT
#49
On February 27 2011 23:46 TemplarCo. wrote:
To bad we can't get to see White-Ra vs IdrA finals... but its gonna be a great tournament!!


Still possible right? If they end up 1st/2nd in their group, they end up on separate halves of the finals brackets, or not?
Chambo
Profile Joined May 2010
Brazil32 Posts
February 27 2011 15:16 GMT
#50
Fenix is from South America, PERU !
Loljke
Profile Joined January 2011
Ukraine246 Posts
February 27 2011 15:18 GMT
#51
glhf RA!
o.o
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
February 27 2011 15:38 GMT
#52
On February 28 2011 00:12 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2011 23:46 TemplarCo. wrote:
To bad we can't get to see White-Ra vs IdrA finals... but its gonna be a great tournament!!


Still possible right? If they end up 1st/2nd in their group, they end up on separate halves of the finals brackets, or not?


I'd imagine.

There are more than 1 person advancing from each group, there's A) no reason that one has to be knocked out, and B) no reason they'll end up on the same side of the bracket after the group stage.
Sephiros
Profile Joined September 2010
United States24 Posts
February 27 2011 15:47 GMT
#53
Anyone know what times the streams start each day March 1 - 5 ?
"Life is like riding a bicycle. You must keep moving to retain balance."
Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
February 27 2011 15:52 GMT
#54
Wonderful write-up (barring the extreme dump taken on Moon whilst Moonglade on the other hand gets hyped) Definitely excited to watch this tournament.
R.I.P. 우정호 || Do probes dream of psionic sheep?
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
February 27 2011 16:07 GMT
#55
The schedule is absolutely awful for Europeans, all games are being played through morning and afternoon, when a lot of people are at work. I know I will miss all the games as I work from 09:00-17:00
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
February 27 2011 16:12 GMT
#56
Seriously can't wait for this tournament! Here's hoping Moon can make a strong showing.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Nik0
Profile Joined April 2010
Uruguay460 Posts
February 27 2011 16:17 GMT
#57
Wow, i didn't knew that Peru was in North America.
RinconH
Profile Joined April 2010
United States512 Posts
February 27 2011 16:22 GMT
#58
It's too bad they didn't invite ST_Bomber instead of Moon.
Sephiros
Profile Joined September 2010
United States24 Posts
February 27 2011 16:24 GMT
#59
Why would they post this tournament and not include the starting times =(
"Life is like riding a bicycle. You must keep moving to retain balance."
mdma-_-
Profile Joined October 2010
Nauru1213 Posts
February 27 2011 16:29 GMT
#60
On February 28 2011 01:07 Odoakar wrote:
The schedule is absolutely awful for Europeans, all games are being played through morning and afternoon, when a lot of people are at work. I know I will miss all the games as I work from 09:00-17:00

they cant help it. Cebit closes at 18.00, so its not possible for them to have games later than that.
PeaNuT_T
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden326 Posts
February 27 2011 16:29 GMT
#61
IdrA Hwaiiiitiiiing
iNcontrol, IdrA,Lz, Strifecro, Axslav, Machine, Demuslim! EG Fighting!!!~~
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
February 27 2011 16:32 GMT
#62
wow, his prediction is 4 zerg and 2 toss in the top six. Thats pretty bold. I agree with Group A. But group B will be Squirtle, Fenix, Sjow!
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
February 27 2011 16:35 GMT
#63
GOGO Socke!!
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
February 27 2011 16:35 GMT
#64
i honestly think anyone can win O_o
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
February 27 2011 17:03 GMT
#65
Morrow vs Idra Finale would be epic indeed. Too bad my ESL.TV subscrition ran off this week so I only have semi-high quality on the stream
This is our town, scrub
ranjutan
Profile Joined November 2010
United States636 Posts
February 27 2011 17:04 GMT
#66
On February 27 2011 23:17 Blueblister wrote:
Copy paste from Tarsons Ranking page on GosuGamers


So seems like he's a pretty unknown player, huh?
http://i53.tinypic.com/1r3j0p.gif
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
February 27 2011 17:09 GMT
#67
Meh. I'm excited to see Idra/Squirtle play, but really not happy with the lack of NA 'toss . Oh well, Idra fighting!
Stork HerO and Protoss everywhere - redfive on bnet
Denia1
Profile Joined January 2011
148 Posts
February 27 2011 17:45 GMT
#68
North Americans - Fenix .... ech?
Bomber, MC, Jaedong, Scarlett, Grubby, DeMuslim, fy, Super, n0tail, Illidan, Universe
7h30n
Profile Joined March 2010
Croatia120 Posts
February 27 2011 17:50 GMT
#69
This will definitely be the most awesome IEM to date! I hope it will kickstart the events around Europe!

About cheering ... IdrA and MorroW (zergs) fighting! It would be ridiculous if MorroW beats IdrA at ZvZ but any of them winning the finals is all I want :D
CounterOrder
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada457 Posts
February 27 2011 18:03 GMT
#70
Great right up.

Im pumped!! GO GO ZERG!
Sephimos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States144 Posts
February 27 2011 18:03 GMT
#71
Seems like Grack-attack should handle his group pretty solidly. The one wild card is QXC, who always manages to surprise me, and has game-planned Idra effectively in the past. Whitera always manages to put up a hell of a fight as well.
You see!! YOU SEEEEE!! -Sen
wideye
Profile Joined June 2010
United States209 Posts
February 27 2011 18:11 GMT
#72
idra's gonna slay ...
slim pickens
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
February 27 2011 18:50 GMT
#73
The race distribution is cute .
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RYZmooN
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada575 Posts
February 27 2011 19:03 GMT
#74
group A = group of death

White Ra vs Fenix final GOGOGO!
How do u doto?
Reason.SC2
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1047 Posts
February 27 2011 19:07 GMT
#75
I don't know what excites me more... the epic player lineup or the removal of octoshape - the worst streaming utility I have ever had to deal with.

I'm super pumped for this. It will be very interesting to see how the code A koreans will do against some high level foreigner competition.
aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
February 27 2011 19:10 GMT
#76
can't wait for IEM its going to be awesome, IdrA will get revenge on MorroW :D
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SoBeDragon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States192 Posts
February 27 2011 19:12 GMT
#77
It's very possible that I have overlooked this buuuuut....what time will this be streamed at?
If at first you don't succeed, redefine the parameters for success.
CuttyFlam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium523 Posts
February 27 2011 19:14 GMT
#78
What really wonders me is why isnt it broadcasted in Korean also? i mean its the world championship + 3 koreans taking part in it? somebody here who knows why?
Leave it to ................... Luck!!
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-27 19:15:29
February 27 2011 19:15 GMT
#79
On February 28 2011 02:03 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Morrow vs Idra Finale would be epic indeed. Too bad my ESL.TV subscrition ran off this week so I only have semi-high quality on the stream

MorroW's ZvZ is really weak though, so it would probably suck. IdrA plays in a similar way to Ret, albeit stronger, and Ret dominated MorroW's Zerg a week ago.

Now put either of them in the finals against someone else and it'll be epic as hell.

And isn't Fenix from South America?
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
February 27 2011 19:23 GMT
#80
Group A seems really stacked. Not that there aren't good players in group B but the two don't seem equal in terms of overall player skill. To be fair, I don't know as much about the group B players, so maybe they'll wow us all even more. This tournament is gonna be siiick.
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-27 19:48:22
February 27 2011 19:47 GMT
#81
On February 28 2011 04:15 hmunkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 02:03 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Morrow vs Idra Finale would be epic indeed. Too bad my ESL.TV subscrition ran off this week so I only have semi-high quality on the stream

MorroW's ZvZ is really weak though, so it would probably suck. IdrA plays in a similar way to Ret, albeit stronger, and Ret dominated MorroW's Zerg a week ago.

Now put either of them in the finals against someone else and it'll be epic as hell.

And isn't Fenix from South America?


Morrow's ZvZ isn't weak, he is one of the strongest ZvZ player outside of Korea.

Let me summarize the ZvZ against ret: Morrow did his one-base all-in against a fast expansion because it worked in his practiced matches against the build order (I think he tried it in 3 games, because he didn't want to throw away his practiced strategy). Ret's fe build was too refined, so it didn't work out. Morrow said this in the Interview.

I doubt that he will try the same all-in build again. The only map both players did the same fast expansion BO (on Metalopolis) morrow won because of better unit control. If idra plays the same way ret did, morrow probably will be prepared.

Idra is probably stronger in ZvZ, though. So I think that he will win.
Steamroller
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland756 Posts
February 27 2011 20:11 GMT
#82
Already bought my HD pass for this! 6€ is totally worth of 5 days pure gaming.
Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-27 20:18:30
February 27 2011 20:12 GMT
#83
There is no way that MorroW has a Code S ZvZ.


I predict the winner to be either IdrA, WhiteRa, or Squirtle. I don't think anybody other than WhiteRa or Squirtle can beat IdrA in a full set, and if they do they'll be finalists. Glade is great, but I don't think his ZvP is strong enough to win a full set against them.

A lot of it will come down to how good Squirtle performs. If IdrA beats WhiteRa and Squirtle turns out to have been slightly overhyped after GSTL then IdrA is in good shape to win.
Lanaia is love.
Influ
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany780 Posts
February 27 2011 20:56 GMT
#84
On February 28 2011 05:12 Zerokaiser wrote:
There is no way that MorroW has a Code S ZvZ.


Depends...Morrow has just no clue about the metagame and you can't really blame him for that, because EU is basicly a wasteland when it comes to good zergs and I don't think morrow can train with most of these few since afaik they mainly play ladder.

Anyway, his mechanics are scary like hell, seriously he has insane micro, creep spread and everything but he is still weak at adapting fast which made him look like a fool against Ret.
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
February 27 2011 21:00 GMT
#85
Day and TLO casting? YES PLEASE
Hi there. I'm in a cave, how bout you?
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
February 27 2011 21:11 GMT
#86
I like the flavour of the tournament, some americans, europeans and a few koreans + 1 aussie innit mate?

Then 4 of each race, just a nice combo to make sure you get varied games with top talent and great casters to promote that talent

I just hope there will be only a few technical difficulties and we get a great tourney
★ Top Gun ★
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-27 21:23:13
February 27 2011 21:15 GMT
#87
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that I think the some of the Euro players have caught up with Idra and have a very good chance of knocking him out of contention early. I'll take White-Ra, QXC, and Squirtle for the top three, with Idra, Sjow and Morrow at their heels..

And were the groups drawn randomly? Group A seems a LOT tougher than B..
CooDu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia899 Posts
February 27 2011 21:16 GMT
#88
Can't wait for this, should be a blast. Since Assembly I've been watching GSL so this should be a good change indeed.

Thanks for the writeup.
Just a simple guy, going wherever this journey takes me.
infey
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada64 Posts
February 27 2011 21:21 GMT
#89
Squirtle + IdrA hwaiting!
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
February 27 2011 21:23 GMT
#90
I'd kill to see a MorroW vs IdrA show down again! And TLO as a caster .. what more could you ask for?

The Koreans should also do pretty well; Squirtle and Ace showed some impressive skills in GSTL and Code A..

At the end of the day i see Sjow, White Ra or IdrA taking this one..

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TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
February 27 2011 21:47 GMT
#91
My wild random bet is on White-Ra for group A (with Idra getting taken out by him or QXC) and SjoW for group B (taking it from Squirtle), with White-Ra for the win
Second favorite strategy game of all time: Starcraft. First: Go (aka Wei Qi, Paduk, or Igo)
PuercoPop
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Peru277 Posts
February 27 2011 21:50 GMT
#92
Fenix Hwaiting!
The Proof of the Pudding is in the eating!
iLuminar
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom42 Posts
February 27 2011 22:08 GMT
#93
If you buy the HD access, there are VODs posted yea? Just might not be able to watch many games live, so hoping they post the VODs onsite instead of just adding a replay etc
Mercadia
Profile Joined December 2010
United States257 Posts
February 27 2011 22:10 GMT
#94
I'm really looking forward to this^^ I'm a fan of Rotti's casting.

Also, I laughed my ass off at Three Koreans and an Aussie
robice
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Germany114 Posts
February 27 2011 22:25 GMT
#95
To the creator of the front page picture: Have a second look on the map, there is no Hanover in Germany
Sephimos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States144 Posts
February 27 2011 22:26 GMT
#96
Morrow doesn't stand a chance vs Idra, to be kind. Ret is worse than Idra and Ret dominated Morrow's face 2 weeks ago.
You see!! YOU SEEEEE!! -Sen
Steamroller
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland756 Posts
February 27 2011 22:43 GMT
#97
On February 28 2011 07:26 Sephimos wrote:
Morrow doesn't stand a chance vs Idra, to be kind. Ret is worse than Idra and Ret dominated Morrow's face 2 weeks ago.


The way i see it, Ret simply won because hes build was better. He only needed to get roaches out and that's it. There was not much of effort done for the wins. One game where Ret didn't open with the same build he lost. Morrow just microed better and won that game.

Clare
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States372 Posts
February 27 2011 22:44 GMT
#98
qxc, Fenix + IdrA going to crush Euro and KR face.
The dashboard melted but we still had the radio.
Sephimos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States144 Posts
February 27 2011 22:47 GMT
#99
On February 28 2011 07:43 Steamroller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 07:26 Sephimos wrote:
Morrow doesn't stand a chance vs Idra, to be kind. Ret is worse than Idra and Ret dominated Morrow's face 2 weeks ago.


The way i see it, Ret simply won because hes build was better. He only needed to get roaches out and that's it. There was not much of effort done for the wins. One game where Ret didn't open with the same build he lost. Morrow just microed better and won that game.



Ret was better. Morrow glided through the easier side of the bracket and hit a brick wall in the Finals. His ZvZ wasn't bad, it was awful. Ret was a quantum leap ahead of him in the metagame.

What kind of argument is that anyway? "It's just that his build was better"? This game is 90% having "a better build", adapting to your enemy and being solid like Ret is.

User was warned for this post
You see!! YOU SEEEEE!! -Sen
mdma-_-
Profile Joined October 2010
Nauru1213 Posts
February 27 2011 22:50 GMT
#100
On February 28 2011 07:47 Sephimos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 07:43 Steamroller wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:26 Sephimos wrote:
Morrow doesn't stand a chance vs Idra, to be kind. Ret is worse than Idra and Ret dominated Morrow's face 2 weeks ago.


The way i see it, Ret simply won because hes build was better. He only needed to get roaches out and that's it. There was not much of effort done for the wins. One game where Ret didn't open with the same build he lost. Morrow just microed better and won that game.



Ret was better. Morrow glided through the easier side of the bracket and hit a brick wall in the Finals. His ZvZ wasn't bad, it was awful. Ret was a quantum leap ahead of him in the metagame.

What kind of argument is that anyway? "It's just that his build was better"? This game is 90% having "a better build", adapting to your enemy and being solid like Ret is.

lolz easier side of the bracket???
Kas, TLO, Tarson, Socke vs Sase, Naniwa, Pomi, Adelscott ???
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-27 22:58:01
February 27 2011 22:53 GMT
#101
Considering that the foreigners here are the best of the best, I'd rather have seen no Koreans than Koreans who aren't also the best of the best.

Although Ace, Squirtle, and Moon are great players and have good chances of winning, I don't feel like they represent Korea the way the rest of the players represent their country. Not trying to be too negative, it'll still be a great tournament, it just doesn't feel like a "world championship" without players like MVP and NesTea who have good cases for being the best in the world.
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
February 27 2011 22:56 GMT
#102
Why are there no team liquid players

This is going to be awesome anyways though !
Try another route paperboy.
Steamroller
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland756 Posts
February 27 2011 22:57 GMT
#103
On February 28 2011 07:47 Sephimos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 07:43 Steamroller wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:26 Sephimos wrote:
Morrow doesn't stand a chance vs Idra, to be kind. Ret is worse than Idra and Ret dominated Morrow's face 2 weeks ago.


The way i see it, Ret simply won because hes build was better. He only needed to get roaches out and that's it. There was not much of effort done for the wins. One game where Ret didn't open with the same build he lost. Morrow just microed better and won that game.



Ret was better. Morrow glided through the easier side of the bracket and hit a brick wall in the Finals. His ZvZ wasn't bad, it was awful. Ret was a quantum leap ahead of him in the metagame.

What kind of argument is that anyway? "It's just that his build was better"? This game is 90% having "a better build", adapting to your enemy and being solid like Ret is.


My argument is, Morrow seemed to be better when it comes to micro and macro. On assembly both were just sticking with the build they had scouted out to be best for zvz. At the end of the day Rets build was superior compared to Morrows one. There was not much adapting done in the finals lol.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10340 Posts
February 27 2011 23:06 GMT
#104
Squirtle fighting! :D But I like many of the players here!
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
February 27 2011 23:26 GMT
#105
On February 28 2011 07:25 robice wrote:
To the creator of the front page picture: Have a second look on the map, there is no Hanover in Germany


Google it, my friend. After turning on English search results instead of German.
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Sephimos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States144 Posts
February 28 2011 00:10 GMT
#106
On February 28 2011 07:50 mdma-_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 07:47 Sephimos wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:43 Steamroller wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:26 Sephimos wrote:
Morrow doesn't stand a chance vs Idra, to be kind. Ret is worse than Idra and Ret dominated Morrow's face 2 weeks ago.


The way i see it, Ret simply won because hes build was better. He only needed to get roaches out and that's it. There was not much of effort done for the wins. One game where Ret didn't open with the same build he lost. Morrow just microed better and won that game.



Ret was better. Morrow glided through the easier side of the bracket and hit a brick wall in the Finals. His ZvZ wasn't bad, it was awful. Ret was a quantum leap ahead of him in the metagame.

What kind of argument is that anyway? "It's just that his build was better"? This game is 90% having "a better build", adapting to your enemy and being solid like Ret is.

lolz easier side of the bracket???
Kas, TLO, Tarson, Socke vs Sase, Naniwa, Pomi, Adelscott ???


Compare the brackets.
You see!! YOU SEEEEE!! -Sen
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
February 28 2011 00:31 GMT
#107
On February 28 2011 09:10 Sephimos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 07:50 mdma-_- wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:47 Sephimos wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:43 Steamroller wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:26 Sephimos wrote:
Morrow doesn't stand a chance vs Idra, to be kind. Ret is worse than Idra and Ret dominated Morrow's face 2 weeks ago.


The way i see it, Ret simply won because hes build was better. He only needed to get roaches out and that's it. There was not much of effort done for the wins. One game where Ret didn't open with the same build he lost. Morrow just microed better and won that game.



Ret was better. Morrow glided through the easier side of the bracket and hit a brick wall in the Finals. His ZvZ wasn't bad, it was awful. Ret was a quantum leap ahead of him in the metagame.

What kind of argument is that anyway? "It's just that his build was better"? This game is 90% having "a better build", adapting to your enemy and being solid like Ret is.

lolz easier side of the bracket???
Kas, TLO, Tarson, Socke vs Sase, Naniwa, Pomi, Adelscott ???


Compare the brackets.


Almost every player (in Interviews) and viewer agreed that the upper half of the bracket was much stronger. So yeah, morrow had a harder way to the finals.
Sephimos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States144 Posts
February 28 2011 00:55 GMT
#108
On February 28 2011 09:31 vdale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 09:10 Sephimos wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:50 mdma-_- wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:47 Sephimos wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:43 Steamroller wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:26 Sephimos wrote:
Morrow doesn't stand a chance vs Idra, to be kind. Ret is worse than Idra and Ret dominated Morrow's face 2 weeks ago.


The way i see it, Ret simply won because hes build was better. He only needed to get roaches out and that's it. There was not much of effort done for the wins. One game where Ret didn't open with the same build he lost. Morrow just microed better and won that game.



Ret was better. Morrow glided through the easier side of the bracket and hit a brick wall in the Finals. His ZvZ wasn't bad, it was awful. Ret was a quantum leap ahead of him in the metagame.

What kind of argument is that anyway? "It's just that his build was better"? This game is 90% having "a better build", adapting to your enemy and being solid like Ret is.

lolz easier side of the bracket???
Kas, TLO, Tarson, Socke vs Sase, Naniwa, Pomi, Adelscott ???


Compare the brackets.


Almost every player (in Interviews) and viewer agreed that the upper half of the bracket was much stronger. So yeah, morrow had a harder way to the finals.


Had the brackets backwards in my head. Changes exactly nothing, he wasn't prepared for a top level ZvZ and it showed.
You see!! YOU SEEEEE!! -Sen
space_yes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States548 Posts
February 28 2011 01:10 GMT
#109
On February 28 2011 07:53 jalstar wrote:
Considering that the foreigners here are the best of the best, I'd rather have seen no Koreans than Koreans who aren't also the best of the best.

Although Ace, Squirtle, and Moon are great players and have good chances of winning, I don't feel like they represent Korea the way the rest of the players represent their country. Not trying to be too negative, it'll still be a great tournament, it just doesn't feel like a "world championship" without players like MVP and NesTea who have good cases for being the best in the world.


I couldn't agree more. It will be fun to watch the foreigners beat them though
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-28 01:33:43
February 28 2011 01:33 GMT
#110
On February 28 2011 06:00 0mgVitaminE wrote:
Day and TLO casting? YES PLEASE


LOL, I think TLO casting may be my favorite thing about this. I love his personality so much.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 28 2011 02:11 GMT
#111
I won an HD pass for this from ESFIworld lol, pretty cool, I would have bought one anyways so I'm pretty happy ^_^
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
February 28 2011 03:21 GMT
#112
Moonglade fighting!!!! <33
CommentatorAustralian SC2 Caster | Twitter: @MaynardeSC2 | Twitch: twitch.tv/maynarde
LagT_T
Profile Joined March 2010
Argentina535 Posts
February 28 2011 04:00 GMT
#113
South America is just a communist invention.
"The tactics... no. Amateurs discuss tactics, professional soldiers study logistics." - Tom Clancy, Red Storm Rising
SadStarcraft
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico56 Posts
February 28 2011 04:25 GMT
#114
fenix isnt north american.. peru is in sound america
coolcor
Profile Joined February 2011
520 Posts
February 28 2011 05:07 GMT
#115
What would have happened if any of the Korean invites or Moonglade did not lose their first round? Wouldn't the round of 16 conflict with this?
KMARTRULES
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia474 Posts
February 28 2011 05:58 GMT
#116
As long as Idra or moonglade (AUSSIE :D) win this will be great!

Or White-Ra, Hes too awesome.
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
February 28 2011 06:28 GMT
#117
TLO casting with Day9? :O

How could I miss this? Insane player list too.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
February 28 2011 08:30 GMT
#118
On February 28 2011 11:11 ZlaSHeR wrote:
I won an HD pass for this from ESFIworld lol, pretty cool, I would have bought one anyways so I'm pretty happy ^_^


well deserved Gz !
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
February 28 2011 09:01 GMT
#119
Yo ESL people, since I hyped up your event can I have a free HD pass?
ModeratorGood content always wins.
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-28 10:28:48
February 28 2011 10:28 GMT
#120
On February 28 2011 09:55 Sephimos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 09:31 vdale wrote:
On February 28 2011 09:10 Sephimos wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:50 mdma-_- wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:47 Sephimos wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:43 Steamroller wrote:
On February 28 2011 07:26 Sephimos wrote:
Morrow doesn't stand a chance vs Idra, to be kind. Ret is worse than Idra and Ret dominated Morrow's face 2 weeks ago.


The way i see it, Ret simply won because hes build was better. He only needed to get roaches out and that's it. There was not much of effort done for the wins. One game where Ret didn't open with the same build he lost. Morrow just microed better and won that game.



Ret was better. Morrow glided through the easier side of the bracket and hit a brick wall in the Finals. His ZvZ wasn't bad, it was awful. Ret was a quantum leap ahead of him in the metagame.

What kind of argument is that anyway? "It's just that his build was better"? This game is 90% having "a better build", adapting to your enemy and being solid like Ret is.

lolz easier side of the bracket???
Kas, TLO, Tarson, Socke vs Sase, Naniwa, Pomi, Adelscott ???


Compare the brackets.


Almost every player (in Interviews) and viewer agreed that the upper half of the bracket was much stronger. So yeah, morrow had a harder way to the finals.


Had the brackets backwards in my head. Changes exactly nothing, he wasn't prepared for a top level ZvZ and it showed.

He wasn't prepared for ret's specific build, that's really the only thing you can say.

For example you also can't say that Tyler and Huk weren't prepared for top level PvP just because they lost to Socke.
Milvus
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland400 Posts
February 28 2011 10:29 GMT
#121
Who is the german caster? Khaldor?
arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-28 10:38:47
February 28 2011 10:37 GMT
#122
On February 28 2011 19:29 Milvus wrote:
Who is the german caster? Khaldor?


Filly and Sonic
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
February 28 2011 11:10 GMT
#123
Amazingly well written
WHAT DAY9 AND TLO ARE CASTING HEAD ASPLODE!!!!1!111
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sleepytime
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark122 Posts
February 28 2011 13:34 GMT
#124
I really hope SjoW wins. He's my favorite player to watch. So SjoW fighting!
Nada fighting!
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
February 28 2011 14:32 GMT
#125
I've never seen TLO cast so I hope he does a good job. I'm not worried about Day[9], he's always great.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
PigFur
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway11 Posts
February 28 2011 16:31 GMT
#126
This tournament is so stacked! Cant wait to see if MorroW has improved his ZvZ at all!
Iggnite
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada288 Posts
February 28 2011 17:12 GMT
#127
TLO Hwaitinggg. Should be an awesome tournament.
All about the big plays
Daimai
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden762 Posts
February 28 2011 18:00 GMT
#128
Any scheduled times? Worried I have school when group A is playing (WHITERA HWAITING!)
To pray is to accept defeat.
arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
February 28 2011 18:00 GMT
#129
Why wouldn't they show Idra vs Morrow??? It's way more interesting than qxc-ace or white-ra-tarson
TeMiL
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Peru545 Posts
February 28 2011 19:59 GMT
#130
fenix arrived to germany.
fenix u must show the latin power ^ ^
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
February 28 2011 20:19 GMT
#131
On March 01 2011 03:00 arctics86 wrote:
Why wouldn't they show Idra vs Morrow??? It's way more interesting than qxc-ace or white-ra-tarson


what? they won't?

if that is true, someone with INFLUENCE with IEM must make sure that happens, it will be a the grudgematch of the year o.o!

Carmac, make it happen
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Wuffey
Profile Joined May 2010
252 Posts
February 28 2011 21:09 GMT
#132
Venue Walkround

Linoge
Profile Joined January 2011
Hungary115 Posts
February 28 2011 21:39 GMT
#133
Idra _/,,/
EU; Linoge.240 ;
mike1
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany155 Posts
February 28 2011 22:27 GMT
#134
venue looks cool. will be there on tuesday
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
March 01 2011 01:20 GMT
#135
Super pumped for FXOmOOnGLaDe vs FOXMoon :3 Two of my favourite WC3 players!

Will also be great to see White-Ra again.
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ProfessorCold
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States41 Posts
March 01 2011 02:11 GMT
#136
I reeeeeeally really wanna see Idra v Morrow.

Or Idra v WhiteRa.

To be honest I just wanna watch Idra.
Proud follower of Jesus Christ; favorite players include Jaedong and Destiny
rfoster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1005 Posts
March 01 2011 05:43 GMT
#137
can someone pm a link to buy vods
CheesKop
Profile Joined March 2011
South Africa1 Post
March 01 2011 07:43 GMT
#138
Jo, which site is good to watch streaming?
Goeie Dag
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 13:11:49
March 01 2011 13:11 GMT
#139
While this will probably be a great tournament. How can the focus of this really be balance? Other than Idra and Squirtle there won't be a single player who is arguably in the top 50th best in the world.

It's rather hard to determine "balance" when there are players who just simply aren't up to par to determine such things.
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57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
March 01 2011 15:34 GMT
#140
This should be a fun tourney to watch, and I know exactly who I am cheering for.

Duckload and Pokemon HWAITING!

(White_Ra and Squirtle if you didn't get it)
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 15:58:56
March 01 2011 15:41 GMT
#141
Rotterdam is horrible. Why the heck do they let one none-native-speaker and knows like nothing about SC2 to commentate?
LOL Since when TLO has British accent O.o
blamous
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States377 Posts
March 01 2011 16:58 GMT
#142
Vods? Replays?
Get YOUR games cast on NuubCast!
Karok
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands142 Posts
March 01 2011 20:39 GMT
#143
Yes plz, vods
Roggy
Profile Joined January 2011
1 Post
March 02 2011 09:05 GMT
#144
you can find the replays here http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/hanover/schedule/#/masters/season5/hanover/sc2/groupstage/results
by clicking on the "Info" tab
LuckstYle
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany181 Posts
March 02 2011 16:56 GMT
#145
crazy 3-waytie!
ObieHoernchen
Profile Joined March 2011
1 Post
March 02 2011 17:05 GMT
#146
Day9 drops off the chair after returning from the loo ... ty for epic laugh :DDDD
Sephiros
Profile Joined September 2010
United States24 Posts
March 02 2011 17:20 GMT
#147
Hey guys here's a tournament coming up but...no time is posted when it is, and as far as where it'll be streamed "free on tl" Does anyone know when this is taking place each day? And am I correct in assuming it'll be on the stream page when it does go live ?
"Life is like riding a bicycle. You must keep moving to retain balance."
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
March 03 2011 05:30 GMT
#148
I like how much the OP underestimates Moon in light of the results. Go Moon! :D
Suvorov
Profile Joined December 2010
294 Posts
March 03 2011 08:21 GMT
#149
I don't know about you guys but Moon has been flat out raping everyone he's faced. Not bad considering he still plays wc3 and has not fully devoted himself to sc2. I really like the way he plays zerg. His mass baneling drops versus protoss as well as his scbw style zerg drops are quite amusing. His micro makes sense but most importantly, he has a very nice macro. Props to the guy!
If you label every single aggressive strategy 'cheese', you are officially declaring yourself an incurable mental retard.
Suvorov
Profile Joined December 2010
294 Posts
March 03 2011 14:47 GMT
#150
Idra has been defeated by Squirtle! Bwuahahaha

Now the path is clear for Moon to take 13k USD home in his first major foreign tournament!
If you label every single aggressive strategy 'cheese', you are officially declaring yourself an incurable mental retard.
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