I am sure Jinro will get his chance in the future as he is an excellent player.
For now I am really looking forward to seeing if MC can do it again in the finals or whether it was his direct familiarity with Jinro's play that led to his dominance...
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Matrim
United Kingdom16 Posts
I am sure Jinro will get his chance in the future as he is an excellent player. For now I am really looking forward to seeing if MC can do it again in the finals or whether it was his direct familiarity with Jinro's play that led to his dominance... | ||
dubRa
2165 Posts
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Larrie
United Kingdom46 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + B for Jinro and Nestea? They both lost due to poor openings from what I observed and Nestea in particular didn't do anything to adjust his opening to counter it. Surely that is C- level play at the most. | ||
Arceus
Vietnam8332 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Just to mention a few, the sim city defense of HongUn is one of the most tense moment in gsl, he should be given much more credit for his fast reaction and iron nerve to defend that push Game 5 of Nestea v Rain is definitely worth more than 1* when Rain executed his bunkerush very well, yet still played safely and expanded. Though almost crumble, Nestea still held on and almost successfully countered with better decision, fans were given some glimpse of hope & some heartattack. I love that as a spectator And how come Jinro earned a B for being demolished in less than 10 mins each game, while MK only got C+ after playing some epic games ? I dont care about how theyr teammate and MC being the superior, whoever played that bad should be given D+ at best. This is one the worst series in this gsl imo Anyway I dont see any game rating for that series, must have been 4x zero stars since the OP is so hard to please. | ||
Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
On December 13 2010 19:09 andrewwiggin wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2010 18:52 Taf the Ghost wrote: Put my responses in spoiler, just because it's so early in the thread. + Show Spoiler + If you watched TSL_Rain vs Nestea, those grades are deserved. Getting really lucky on maps and still nearly not pulling off virtual free win scenario does not make him the better player. If it'd been Scrap Station in game 2 rather than Steppes, Rain is out 0-3. As for MC vs Jinro, that's a hard one. That very much looked like MC knew what Jinro wanted to do, i.e. it was a team game, and MC had the better mind-game for it. Also, it showed that MC respected Jinro's late-game skill enough he wasn't going to risk it getting that far. A "B" for Jinro is probably biased, but I'm not sure what grade you would give him otherwise. MC knew what he could do against Jinro, which is probably why Jinro wasn't to high on his chances of beating MC during his Ro8 interview. Okay. But if Rain doing such POOR, HORRIBLE all-ins, still managed to win... what does that make NesTea? =/ A good zerg player. | ||
Rarak
Australia631 Posts
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Xayoz
Estonia373 Posts
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LoveJuice
Malaysia54 Posts
I'm confused with the ratings given. It makes no sense. Would probably be better off reading comments off GOMTV.net and decide which games to watch. | ||
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palookieblue
Australia326 Posts
IMNestea gets a B but TSL_Rain gets a C-? You do know who won the series, right? And against MC you gave Foxer a C+, where the games were at times quite close, and Jinro a B? Futhermore, you then justify the 'B' by saying that MC played well. Newsflash, MC's play is reflected by his own rating. Puh-leese. I'd rather you just forgo the ratings if they're going to be so nonsensical, and thus detract from your analysis. The ratings are supposed to reflect a player's standard during one match, not their 'overall strength'. Even in the Fruitdealer vs HongUn series you rated the games as being worthless to watch, essentially, when most people found the frantic defence a pleasure to view. | ||
insult
59 Posts
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FirstQT
United States115 Posts
Thanks for putting your time and effort into it I guess. edit- Also, how did the FD vs HongUn Lost Temple game 4 only get 1 star? based on the rating system... 4 stars - Excellent play demonstrated by at least one of the players, and very likely both. A must watch. 3 stars - A good game, but nothing truly special. Often not competitive, or with some mistakes. Worth watching if you have the time. 2 stars - A below-average game. Not worth watching unless you're a fan of the winning player. 1 star - Not an entertaining or instructive game. Even if you're a fan of the winner, your time is probably better spent. This was an exciting game which demonstrated great play by hongun being able to macro buildings so well. I was at the edge of my seat and I know I wasn't the only one. | ||
risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On December 13 2010 17:44 Danjoh wrote: I love Jinro just as much as the next guy... but giving him a B for that performance seems a bit biased. + Show Spoiler + He got taken out so damn fast it's hard to judge his performance, and every single game MC seemed to know exactly what he was doing and conjure up the perfect counter strategy. Even the last game, but Jinro managed to get that into a basetrade match... And bringing up his rating based on that his opponent was of much higher caliber just seems wrong. But that's just another mans opinion! + Show Spoiler + If you take other factions in your calculations then the gametime elapsed you'll see that he played very solid up till the moment he lost to perfect timing push's. Doing exellent moves and Jinro's builds were executed flawlessly, just that they got hardcountered most of the time before he could reap.(He played B- imo but come'n it's not like the they gave him a A+) | ||
StuF
Netherlands51 Posts
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
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StuF
Netherlands51 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
The Fruit vs Hongun games are similar. Fruit outplayed himself more than Hongun did anything. Then MC vs Jinro was such a short affair so really any rating for Jinro is going to be hard and there will be bias since there's not much to say on the matter. MC played amazing and Jinro was just a step behind. Is being a step behind amazing horrible or is it good? | ||
Danjoh
Sweden405 Posts
On December 13 2010 21:15 goldfishs wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2010 17:44 Danjoh wrote: I love Jinro just as much as the next guy... but giving him a B for that performance seems a bit biased. + Show Spoiler + He got taken out so damn fast it's hard to judge his performance, and every single game MC seemed to know exactly what he was doing and conjure up the perfect counter strategy. Even the last game, but Jinro managed to get that into a basetrade match... And bringing up his rating based on that his opponent was of much higher caliber just seems wrong. But that's just another mans opinion! + Show Spoiler + If you take other factions in your calculations then the gametime elapsed you'll see that he played very solid up till the moment he lost to perfect timing push's. Doing exellent moves and Jinro's builds were executed flawlessly, just that they got hardcountered most of the time before he could reap.(He played B- imo but come'n it's not like the they gave him a A+) Jinros biggest strength is his lategame macro play, if the opponent outplays him so he can't even get to the point where he starts to shines, he's not doing a good job. And it's stupid to give a player a higher rating based on that his opponent was completely dominating him. A gold player playing against a diamond player doesn't play better simply because his opponent is leagues above him. (not saying Jinro is gold level, just making a anology!). | ||
pedduck
Thailand468 Posts
Great Recaps. Thanks. | ||
g.Krow
Canada41 Posts
Small typo in the score between Rain and HongUn though. It was 4-2 not 4-1. | ||
Brewed Tea
United States124 Posts
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