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On September 20 2010 05:24 dogabutila wrote:
13pool isn't bronze proof just saying. So much 6 pool there.

On September 20 2010 05:53 kmillz wrote:


13 pool is bronze proof. It is some very tricky micro but i have beaten 6 pool rushes with this (and 14 pool). one cool trick is to keep on sending all your drones on 1 mineral patch to confuse the zergling AI so he cant effectively pick off drones with his lings.

On September 20 2010 06:16 kNyTTyM wrote:
You can beat 6 pool with a 15pool so 13 should be pretty simple.

On September 20 2010 05:53 kmillz wrote:


13 pool is bronze proof. It is some very tricky micro but i have beaten 6 pool rushes with this (and 14 pool). one cool trick is to keep on sending all your drones on 1 mineral patch to confuse the zergling AI so he cant effectively pick off drones with his lings.

On September 20 2010 10:47 Tazza wrote:
Thx, but idk, 13 pool/gas is too hard on eco, I think 15 gas 15 pool or just 15 hatch 14 pool 13 gas works much better

On September 20 2010 06:39 Mastermind wrote:

Since when do bronze leaguers micro?? did you miss the thread where the guy wins 1000s of games rushing with his first 6 workers?

On September 20 2010 14:47 Mykal wrote:
Hey all, new to TL. Question;

Why take the drones off the gas?

On September 20 2010 05:18 erulabs wrote:
I have actually been doing a slightly modified opening of this build since I really started maining Zerg. My build is as follows:

9 over
12 pool
12 gas
16 queen
18 overlord
19 ling (gas trick, fast ling is for killing scout)
@100 gas speed, take drones off gas and expand

Versus protoss that is scouted to be 2 gate rushing, or terran that _is not_ walling (properly), I continue mining gas and build baneling nest @50, take units off gas at 100 (four banelings), and expand.

This build once I really mastered it took me from 1100pt random to 1400pt zerg. This build is roughly the same economically as Sheths (due to 2 extra drones before starting to make lings/save for expo, but 1 less before saving for pool), but it also gets speed out slightly earlier rather than more lings out (this is to deal with very early reaper/reaper speed).

Also, a note of 12 pool over 13. 12 pool is still larvae efficient, inotherwords, the hatchery never stops "larae production", even though you reach 2 larvae while waiting for minerals for pool. This gets your queen out faster, which is insanely helpful against crazy proxy 6/1gate play i've been seeing on 2 player maps lately. The only draw back is having 2 lings instead of 4, although the 2 come out (1 drones worth of time) earlier. 12 pool is also superior against Random players, as 13 pool against 6pool becomes a matter of micro, whereas 12 pool simply wins (due to lings and queen).

Also, about the baneling addition. If you do the gas trick to build a zergling on 19 and _leave_ the gas geyser, you can get to 150 gas very quickly. Then just move all 6 drones back to minerals and expand behind the bust. This strategy is not only not _all in_ (i've had it fail 100% and have gone on to win many many times), it only sets you 2 or 3 drones behind where you would have had you skipped banelings. It also gives Zerg pressure on Terran early game (!!!), which IMO, is worth any amount of minerals.

On September 20 2010 07:57 Chronocide wrote:
I posted in the discussion section on the Liquipedia page, but I figure I may as well post here as well. This BO doesn't say anything about dealing with 4gate, and that's what I'm most afraid of whenever I play against protoss. It's hard enough to defend on one base, and almost feels like an auto-lose if I've fast expanded. I really feel the article should address this.

On September 20 2010 05:24 dogabutila wrote:
13pool isn't bronze proof just saying. So much 6 pool there.