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Therick
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway324 Posts
May 16 2010 20:02 GMT
#481
go.go and darkelf? Argh how could you :<
Lift. Laugh. Love. <3
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-16 20:08:15
May 16 2010 20:07 GMT
#482
Oh, and it's not JulyZerg mentioned in the article. The "25 year old Mr Park" refers to a broker, not a gamer.
lowbright
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
308 Posts
May 16 2010 20:10 GMT
#483
wow
now i feel betrayed

i was so happy when savior beat tt

everything he did feels so meaningless now.
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #49
gorgoino18
Profile Joined November 2009
Korea (South)109 Posts
May 16 2010 20:18 GMT
#484
Wait, Starcraft progaming isn't going to end because of this, right?
지고나서 후회하지말자 - 임요환
Kuri
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada88 Posts
May 16 2010 20:24 GMT
#485
On May 17 2010 04:46 Durak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2010 04:09 SuperArc wrote:
I think the most impressive feat is Nada not being lured by money.

No player has had more ups and downs in his career than him, but he always came up with his own skill.


Show nested quote +
On May 17 2010 04:26 minus_human wrote:
As much as I loved savior, and example must be set. I have really mixed feelings about this, but if Nada is clean then he is the most impressive progamer to ever live imho.


Yeah. Nada is basically the greatest progamer of all time. He's a champion of will, soul, and skill.


He was also one of the highest paid progamers, so he wouldn't need to stoop so low for some pocket change. All in all... savior
Troilus
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany42 Posts
May 16 2010 20:29 GMT
#486
Although I'm very disappointed I'm not shocked at all. Athlets dope, referees manipulate games, it happens over and over again. I'm not saying we should give up and accept stuff like that.No way - things like that need to be stopped, culprits need to be sentenced. Progaming is just -sad but true- no exception.

I wonder if Stork was involved, heared rumors about that on Nuke's channel... Does anyone know more?
TLO ftw!
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
May 16 2010 20:32 GMT
#487
hey Kona, would it be possible to add a general currency conversion reference?

I have:

1,000,000 KRW = $885 USD, $717 EUR
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
May 16 2010 20:33 GMT
#488
On May 17 2010 04:09 SuperArc wrote:
I think the most impressive feat is Nada not being lured by money.

No player has had more ups and downs in his career than him, but he always came up with his own skill.


True that, and it makes MJY's slump that much more pathetic.

It still kills me to see the MJY of old, who was just so god damn talented in every aspect of the game, compared to the sad sad MJY of now.
CJ Entusman #24
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
May 16 2010 20:33 GMT
#489
Warning: Oldboy ep 9 spoilers
http://www.fomos.kr/gnuboard4/bbs/board.php?bo_table=free_09&wr_id=1047007

man it makes this scene 100000x more sad
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
May 16 2010 20:36 GMT
#490
On May 17 2010 03:27 Hesmyrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 12:04 Slow Motion wrote:
"Three brokers were indicted, gaming academy owner Mr. Park (under arrest), K3 (3rd division) soccer pro Mr. Jung, and the gangster Mr. Kim (wanted)."

Noooooo Bisu!!! Kim isn't a common last name in Korea, right?

But seriously, how "confirmed" are the netizen's suspect list? I mean it's confirmed there is a scandal but I'm curious as to each player specifically.

Okay, I didn't finish reading rest of the posts, but since when did the fucking gangster = progamers? And what, did the progamer acquire some sort of gosu ninja skills and successfully flee from authority causing him to become wanted? I can't believe some people isn't pointing this out while quoting this beep. Stop over-reacting, people.


That is a separate person involved in the scandal. He is not a progamer nor necessarily has talked to or met with any progamers. Everything could have been done through the brokers but initiated by the so called Mr. Kim.
CJ Entusman #24
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
May 16 2010 20:36 GMT
#491
On May 16 2010 23:00 Hooya wrote:
The reason Bisu wasn't on the list...
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CJ Entusman #24
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
May 16 2010 20:38 GMT
#492
On May 17 2010 01:16 StarMasterX wrote:
These names really disappoint me...particularly Savior who was one of the guys that got me interested in progaming to begin with. Serious shit. Now they all get the Pete Rose treatment and possibly worse.


Yeah, sAviOr and Klazart and his love for sAviOr got me into progaming.

Sad to see things turn out the way they did.

Still hoping that something is wrong in all of this. That Mr. Ma is just an alias to conceal the real culprit or something like it.
CJ Entusman #24
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
May 16 2010 20:43 GMT
#493
On May 17 2010 01:37 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 13:02 writer22816 wrote:
On May 16 2010 12:55 JWD wrote:
On May 16 2010 12:19 writer22816 wrote:
To all of you who are calling these progamers pieces of shit, etc:

Most of you would have probably done the same thing given a choice.

Not saying what these people did was justified but I'm not going to come down too hard on them.

yeah because most progamers are involved in this scandal, right? I mean it's not like it's only a select group that stooped to this, right?? Like, there's not a list of only 8 or so guys that chose to fix games in the OP of this thread is there?


What gives you the assumption that every progamer was bribed to throw games?

Surely not every one, but it must be that some substantial portion of them knew that this opportunity existed, or even that some of their teammates were taking advantage of it. It just can't be that the ~8 outed players comprise even a majority of progamers who were aware they could throw games to make money. Everyone knows about the betting sites.


Yes, and I assume that, to not kill the sport and to send out a strong warning to the other players, the only players to be pursued are those that are those with the most and the worst transgressions in this fashion. It may have been as much as 10 or 20 progamers, but possibly only 6 or 8 will be prosecuted and punished which for one does justice and sends a strong message that game fixing will not be tolerated, and two not ruin the sport and make everyone thing that the whole thing was and still could be easily corrupted.
CJ Entusman #24
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
May 16 2010 21:06 GMT
#494
On May 17 2010 05:38 Qwertify wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2010 01:16 StarMasterX wrote:
These names really disappoint me...particularly Savior who was one of the guys that got me interested in progaming to begin with. Serious shit. Now they all get the Pete Rose treatment and possibly worse.


Yeah, sAviOr and Klazart and his love for sAviOr got me into progaming.

Sad to see things turn out the way they did.

Still hoping that something is wrong in all of this. That Mr. Ma is just an alias to conceal the real culprit or something like it.


Sounds like wishful thinking to me. I think it's pretty obvious that Savior participated and it's realllly saddening.
Chains none
PaddyPower
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom82 Posts
May 16 2010 21:09 GMT
#495
I hope klazart doesnt take it out on his wife and beat her because of this, will be another broken bond

User was temp banned for this post.
i r pro
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-16 21:10:52
May 16 2010 21:10 GMT
#496
On May 17 2010 05:32 broz0rs wrote:
hey Kona, would it be possible to add a general currency conversion reference?

I have:

1,000,000 KRW = $885 USD, $717 EUR

Well it's also a matter of location although plain conversion may seem right you don't factor in cost of living, among certain things cost certain prices in certain places.

Easy example is i could but a GTX 470 for 350$ or i could but it for 350euros in europe, or for 8,000 pesos in mexico which is like 700 dollars in US
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
May 16 2010 21:11 GMT
#497
fuuuuuuuuuuuu

emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
May 16 2010 21:14 GMT
#498
Jonvvv
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Norway1530 Posts
May 16 2010 21:18 GMT
#499
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Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
May 16 2010 21:19 GMT
#500
Oh man...in many ways this is a relief.

I remember when the scandal first came out they were supposedly investigating Bisu, BeSt, and fantasy and lots of other players that would pretty much gut the major teams.

Chances are more money was involved but they either can't prove it or have chosen to downplay it. In South Korea, are sentences worse if more money is involved?
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
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