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hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
January 18 2010 18:11 GMT
#21
Name: 1m1s)narcotics
Race: Terran
Rank: D+ (barely)
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/1m1s)NARCOTICS.html
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6180 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 18:14:25
January 18 2010 18:13 GMT
#22
TL Name: FaCe_1
ICCup name: [cpl]face_1
Race: Protoss
Rank: Mid D+
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/[CPL]FaCe_1.html
n_n
RaptorX
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Germany646 Posts
January 18 2010 18:16 GMT
#23
TL Name: RaptorX
ICCup: Tens[a]i
Max Rank: D+/C-
Current Rank: D
I won
lueiGi2
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada24 Posts
January 18 2010 18:17 GMT
#24
ICCup name: waterhydrant
Race: Terran
Rank: D, highest D+ (season 7).
link: http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/waterhydrant.html
AM.23)Jehuty
Profile Joined April 2009
United States69 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 20:58:05
January 18 2010 18:21 GMT
#25
ICCUP: O-MeGaMeRc
Race: Protoss
Rank: D+
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/O-MegaMerc.html

Obey the Speed Limit - No fast Lings/Hydras/Overlords
No Place to HIDE - Cannot burrow ANY units
Death Touch - Hero Must plague his own Attacking units
Papa Roach - No Infesting


Sounds like fun ... Thanks for hookin it up TL

**NOTE** I can play that day for sure!! ... no problems on my schedule!!
Entaro Tassadar~
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
January 18 2010 18:24 GMT
#26
no unit upgrades (evo chamber upgrades allowed, just speed, range, lurker etc forbidden)
banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 18:27:00
January 18 2010 18:24 GMT
#27
ICCUP: [cpl]banana
Race: Terran
Rank: ~D rank
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/[CPL]banana.html

lol @ no sunk, that's so much rape
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 18 2010 18:26 GMT
#28
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Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
January 18 2010 18:29 GMT
#29
Handicap: Restrictive Evolution
Once an upgrade is completed for a unit, other upgrades which share a building with it can't be upgraded during that game. Exceptions: Burrow, Lurker Aspect. I'm not sure if Evo Chamber should be split 3-way or split to attack/armor, but thinking the latter.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
January 18 2010 18:31 GMT
#30
Handicap idea: Must build queens before any other air units (except OLs, naturally).
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 18:42:59
January 18 2010 18:32 GMT
#31
D+ (C- highest) Terran, TSL-Alurr (profile http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/TSL-Alurr.html)

Handicap ideas:
  • Perma doom drop: All of the players overlords must be together throughout the match. If a set of overlords are not together one or both must move towards the other immediately.
  • Starcraft 2: Use 1hatch queen, you can't make anything but zerglings/drones before a queen has been spawned.
  • Underlords: You can’t upgrade your overlords.
  • Tricky: You can’t stack your mutas, use moving shot, hold lurker, dronedrills or glitch units through buildings/minerals. Furthermore your opponent is allowed to use allied mines or any other glitch.
  • Get low: Your air units now act as ground units, which means that air units (including overlords) can’t fly over cliffs and must use ramps and whatnot like ground units.
  • Devotion: When a hydra den exists you can only build ground units (no ovies), when a spire exists you can only build air units. You must have one of the buildings to build anything but zerglings/drones.
  • Unsafe ovies: Your overlords must be atleast 1screens distance outside of your base(s) and over walkable terrain at all times.
  • F91: You cannot build your spawning pool at 4,5,9,10,11,12 or 13 population. Additionally you cannot build hatcheries at 9,10,11,12 and 13 population.
  • Irreversible: When you have made combat units from a hatchery it wont be able to produce drones ever again..
  • Single use: You cannot unburrow units.
  • Gassibalism: Defilers can only consume gas units (But not hydras, this ofcourse negates the handicap in the OP)
  • No morphing: Hydras -> Lurkers and Muta -> Guardian/devourer not allowed.
  • October: Get 24 lings before lair
  • Great macro: Hatcheries can only spawn units when 3 larvae are present. (Easy mode: this kicks in at 9 supply.)
  • Ultimate Gamer: Play your opponent on a map of his choice, this includes UMS maps, and any pro circuit map. Atleast no self-made, rigged, ridiculously imbalanced maps.

Edit: Map nomination: Geometry
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TL+ Member
Arla
Profile Joined October 2009
Sweden4 Posts
January 18 2010 18:33 GMT
#32
All possible upgrades before Hive (if another handicap prevents certain upgrades they will ofc not have to be done).
No Overlord upgrades.
No speed upgrades (can ofc be narrowed down to a specific unit type).
Max 6 drones on gas.
No zergling upgrades (speed and attack speed).
No hydralisk upgrades (speed and range).

Many upgrade handicaps
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
January 18 2010 18:34 GMT
#33
"tl submition" just means any map that people vote for, right? Or is it specifically a user-made map? Don't want to post map suggestions that will get raped by desti or something popular/common etc.
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
Leath
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 18:35:22
January 18 2010 18:35 GMT
#34
iCCup: Leath
Race: Protoss
Rank: C
http://www.kongregate.com/?referrer=Sagess
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3455 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 18:40:32
January 18 2010 18:36 GMT
#35
Hell yea, incontrol!
I'd love to play against him.
Not sure which matchup.

Trozz on ICCup.
I'm now a D+ player.
I mostly use Zerg.
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/Trozz.html

Handicap suggestions:
Weak Intel: No scouting with drones
Strategy Narration: Must tell opponent what build he'll be doing at the 1 minute, 4 minute, and 8 minute mark.
No Greed Allowed: Max 2 bases mining minerals
Queens!: Must build 3 queens before upgrading to hive
Blind Spot: No overlords in main base (must be at the nat and other strange places)
Slow Gas: Max 2 drones per extractor
Slow Hands: 140 APM maximum (if we get some nice APM monitoring stuff in).
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
January 18 2010 18:36 GMT
#36
how about, when teching to lair, ALL hatcheries must tech to lair; same for hive.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
January 18 2010 18:37 GMT
#37
On January 19 2010 02:56 kerpal wrote:
That's like 5am in UK... grr.


22 CET = 21 GMT
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
January 18 2010 18:38 GMT
#38
On January 19 2010 02:50 wonkman wrote:
Handicap

Only have 1 mining base at a time, only one expo with drones at it O.o

Excluding or including gas -.-


Yeah, he'll just go 9 pool speed and hope for the best
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
Imperator
Profile Joined June 2009
United States246 Posts
January 18 2010 18:42 GMT
#39
I submit Crystallis for the map pool: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Crystallis
LiquipediaAll war is deception. Think your enemy has a weakness and it becomes his strength. - Roy Mustang | CJ Entusman #55
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
January 18 2010 18:42 GMT
#40
handicap:
OLs cannot leave the bases.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
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