On August 01 2009 07:42 clazziquai wrote: Ace, what makes you say I am Ukranian...?
because someone investigated you and told me you're a Rebel. Duh.
you trust people way too easily?? how do you know he can be trusted......lol wow....
how do we know that we can trust you that you aren't a rebel?
Uhh, so by saying that, you think I'm a Ukranian Rebel. What makes you so sure?
Yeah, someone "rolechecked" me and said that I am a rebel. Why do you trust him more than you trust me? Fuck, I or anyone else could have done the same. This seriously confuses me. Just because Ace is the town leader? Please enlighten me.
However like you said in your post, I can't prove to you guys that I am not a rebel
This shit sucks. But the decision is up to the public. Get rid of me and you waste a lynch.
I don't really trust any of you? Um...Anyway about why we don't lynch the informant first...
He done put himself on the chopping block first if he's wrong. If he's wrong he's a rebel, plain and simple. About Clazz...Sorry you were chosing. I particularly don't trust Ace, but that's mainly because of his "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude.
Dunno about lynching clazz, lets wait til daylight and see...
On August 01 2009 07:42 clazziquai wrote: Ace, what makes you say I am Ukranian...?
because someone investigated you and told me you're a Rebel. Duh.
you trust people way too easily?? how do you know he can be trusted......lol wow....
how do we know that we can trust you that you aren't a rebel?
Uhh, so by saying that, you think I'm a Ukranian Rebel. What makes you so sure?
Yeah, someone "rolechecked" me and said that I am a rebel. Why do you trust him more than you trust me? Fuck, I or anyone else could have done the same. This seriously confuses me. Just because Ace is the town leader? Please enlighten me.
However like you said in your post, I can't prove to you guys that I am not a rebel
This shit sucks. But the decision is up to the public. Get rid of me and you waste a lynch.
Oh well. Fucking pathetic.
Clazz, let me explain this to you.
If we lynch the informant and he's a rebel, sure they're down one but we learn NOTHING. If we lynch no one, we make no progress. If we lynch you and you're a rebel, they're down one and we now have access to an NVDK we can trust.
Lynching you is the most logical course of action.
On August 01 2009 07:42 clazziquai wrote: Ace, what makes you say I am Ukranian...?
because someone investigated you and told me you're a Rebel. Duh.
you trust people way too easily?? how do you know he can be trusted......lol wow....
how do we know that we can trust you that you aren't a rebel?
Uhh, so by saying that, you think I'm a Ukranian Rebel. What makes you so sure?
Yeah, someone "rolechecked" me and said that I am a rebel. Why do you trust him more than you trust me? Fuck, I or anyone else could have done the same. This seriously confuses me. Just because Ace is the town leader? Please enlighten me.
However like you said in your post, I can't prove to you guys that I am not a rebel
This shit sucks. But the decision is up to the public. Get rid of me and you waste a lynch.
Oh well. Fucking pathetic.
Clazz, let me explain this to you.
If we lynch the informant and he's a rebel, sure they're down one but we learn NOTHING. If we lynch no one, we make no progress. If we lynch you and you're a rebel, they're down one and we now have access to an NVDK we can trust.
Lynching you is the most logical course of action.
actually it's a bit more than that. Normally on Day 1 the accusing DT is lynched first so we know which direction to go. However this game is a bit different:
1.) NKVDs can disguise as Rebels. 2.) We've already exhausted the idea that no NKVD should disguise themselves as Rebels
With both 1 and 2 out of the way, this brings about the fact that anyone investigated is really likely to be a Rebel. Even ignoring Clazz's pitiful defense for a while I normally wouldn't have even brought it out into the open but Clazz had another strike against him - this:
L 8 ~OpZ~ Storrzerg Ver Kuja900 Motbob L Clazziquai motbob
This is the list of people that voted for L. I wasn't kidding when I said this list is suspect. Everyone who voted on this list with the exception of L himself painted them self a suspect. L literally ran on NO platform and said so himself. Myself and MountainDew were the only ones who made a real platform, while L and Lucaswoj didn't. It would even be better if any of these people stated a reason for voting L that made some sense but barely anyone did. These were my first suspects of the game along with the people who have been shadowing me. So Clazz got caught on a very suspect list, got RCd and flipped Rebel which we know is damn near accurate right now and is using the Vivi57 defense of lynch me and you'll be mad which we know is shit.
On August 01 2009 07:42 clazziquai wrote: Ace, what makes you say I am Ukranian...?
because someone investigated you and told me you're a Rebel. Duh.
you trust people way too easily?? how do you know he can be trusted......lol wow....
how do we know that we can trust you that you aren't a rebel?
Uhh, so by saying that, you think I'm a Ukranian Rebel. What makes you so sure?
Yeah, someone "rolechecked" me and said that I am a rebel. Why do you trust him more than you trust me? Fuck, I or anyone else could have done the same. This seriously confuses me. Just because Ace is the town leader? Please enlighten me.
However like you said in your post, I can't prove to you guys that I am not a rebel
This shit sucks. But the decision is up to the public. Get rid of me and you waste a lynch.
Oh well. Fucking pathetic.
Clazz, let me explain this to you.
If we lynch the informant and he's a rebel, sure they're down one but we learn NOTHING. If we lynch no one, we make no progress. If we lynch you and you're a rebel, they're down one and we now have access to an NVDK we can trust.
Lynching you is the most logical course of action.
actually it's a bit more than that. Normally on Day 1 the accusing DT is lynched first so we know which direction to go. However this game is a bit different:
1.) NKVDs can disguise as Rebels. 2.) We've already exhausted the idea that no NKVD should disguise themselves as Rebels
With both 1 and 2 out of the way, this brings about the fact that anyone investigated is really likely to be a Rebel. Even ignoring Clazz's pitiful defense for a while I normally wouldn't have even brought it out into the open but Clazz had another strike against him - this:
L 8 ~OpZ~ Storrzerg Ver Kuja900 Motbob L Clazziquai motbob
This is the list of people that voted for L. I wasn't kidding when I said this list is suspect. Everyone who voted on this list with the exception of L himself painted them self a suspect. L literally ran on NO platform and said so himself. Myself and MountainDew were the only ones who made a real platform, while L and Lucaswoj didn't. It would even be better if any of these people stated a reason for voting L that made some sense but barely anyone did. These were my first suspects of the game along with the people who have been shadowing me. So Clazz got caught on a very suspect list, got RCd and flipped Rebel which we know is damn near accurate right now and is using the Vivi57 defense of lynch me and you'll be mad which we know is shit.
Clazz has 3 strikes against him. It's over.
I like L. I think that he'd have used his votes better than anyone else in the town. He strikes me as someone who would be a really good townie mayor but maybe not so clever of a mafia mayor.
Take it from someone who was mafia last game: if we had left L alive, he would have destroyed us.
I agree with motbob. I abstained, however, if L had made almost -any- sort of platform, I probably would have voted for him. And other than a few differing ideas, platforms are generally the same and down to a science these days. It really just boils down to who able is able to type/flesh it out more.
Absolutely nothing of consequence happened last night. Clearly the Ukrainian bastards are too cowardly to engage us, the fear of the Red Army that they have.
Today there is interesting events going on: because the land has been utterly flattened by our enemy artillery fire, it will be apparent if people leave at night. As a result, the total number of night actions that occur tonight will be recorded and posted tomorrow morning.
Now, onward Comrades! We must continue and press the Ukrainians until they give way!
Regarding the special condition happening on Night 2. If I'm reading this correctly, the red army has the NKVD, commissar, medic and demoman who are able to act at night. If everyone who is towny does nothing Night 2, then we can deduce a minimum number of rebels among us. However, by doing so we do miss NKVD role checks (I'm guessing that commissars, medics and demomen shouldn't be acting on Night 2 anyway). The rebels now have to choose. Make known how many walk our streets, or do nothing. Is this worth losing a Night though?
Get on it, townies. You read RebirthOfLeGenD's spam. There are a few ways to tell it's fake. One of them is to read this thread. Another is, as a ukranian, to RC the spammer to make sure his role comes up as rebel. But RC takes a night.
Your homework: Write a PM you would send, as a rebel, to someone you just RC'ed as a rebel. Send a copy of that PM to 10 players at random, addressing them with their name.
Townies will know all they get is spam. If half the townies do their homework, each rebel will have 5 spam messages indistinguishable from a legitimate PM from another rebel. If they reply to a townie spammer, they get exposed and lynched. If they don't reply at all, they can never organize and town wins.