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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 01 2009 06:16 GMT
#561
^^^ good idea
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 01 2009 06:38 GMT
#562
On August 01 2009 11:31 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2009 10:44 Sinensis wrote:
On August 01 2009 09:23 clazziquai wrote:
On August 01 2009 09:04 Elemenope wrote:
On August 01 2009 09:02 clazziquai wrote:
On August 01 2009 08:20 Ace wrote:
On August 01 2009 07:42 clazziquai wrote:
Ace, what makes you say I am Ukranian...?


because someone investigated you and told me you're a Rebel. Duh.


you trust people way too easily?? how do you know he can be trusted......lol wow....


how do we know that we can trust you that you aren't a rebel?


Uhh, so by saying that, you think I'm a Ukranian Rebel. What makes you so sure?

Yeah, someone "rolechecked" me and said that I am a rebel. Why do you trust him more than you trust me? Fuck, I or anyone else could have done the same. This seriously confuses me. Just because Ace is the town leader? Please enlighten me.

However like you said in your post, I can't prove to you guys that I am not a rebel

This shit sucks.
But the decision is up to the public. Get rid of me and you waste a lynch.

Oh well. Fucking pathetic.


Clazz, let me explain this to you.

If we lynch the informant and he's a rebel, sure they're down one but we learn NOTHING.
If we lynch no one, we make no progress.
If we lynch you and you're a rebel, they're down one and we now have access to an NVDK we can trust.

Lynching you is the most logical course of action.


actually it's a bit more than that. Normally on Day 1 the accusing DT is lynched first so we know which direction to go. However this game is a bit different:

1.) NKVDs can disguise as Rebels.
2.) We've already exhausted the idea that no NKVD should disguise themselves as Rebels

With both 1 and 2 out of the way, this brings about the fact that anyone investigated is really likely to be a Rebel. Even ignoring Clazz's pitiful defense for a while I normally wouldn't have even brought it out into the open but Clazz had another strike against him - this:

Show nested quote +

L 8
~OpZ~
Storrzerg
Ver
Kuja900
Motbob
L
Clazziquai
motbob


This is the list of people that voted for L. I wasn't kidding when I said this list is suspect. Everyone who voted on this list with the exception of L himself painted them self a suspect. L literally ran on NO platform and said so himself. Myself and MountainDew were the only ones who made a real platform, while L and Lucaswoj didn't. It would even be better if any of these people stated a reason for voting L that made some sense but barely anyone did. These were my first suspects of the game along with the people who have been shadowing me. So Clazz got caught on a very suspect list, got RCd and flipped Rebel which we know is damn near accurate right now and is using the Vivi57 defense of lynch me and you'll be mad which we know is shit.

Clazz has 3 strikes against him. It's over.


Wow fuck off Ace...I actually like L because...he isn't a dick like you. Think I've said that before actually...And I've seen him with nice clue analysis, so him living longer is more of a plus to me. Is that a point you'd like to argue too?

And Ace's belief that NKVD's shouldn't disguise as rebels is still something I don't agree on. So we haven't beaten that horse dead yet Ace. Disorganization amongst the mafia = plus. The rebel's can't risk messaging that way because the agent can tell the public. But you're too stupid to realize that?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
August 01 2009 07:18 GMT
#563
No damnit 10 more pages. And now we have guys faking ukranian pms and guys faking that they are faking the same ukranian pms to look russian. Clearly there are no smart ukranians in this game because the first thing to do was to hit night 1. By doing the same strategy repeteadly ukranian has resulted into n/2day kill power and they dont even know the real number of ukranian.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 01 2009 07:24 GMT
#564
Oh...And i agree Claz's defense is shit...but really what do we expect him to say? Ain't like he can change anyone's mind anyway. Lol
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
August 01 2009 08:09 GMT
#565
On August 01 2009 11:31 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2009 10:44 Sinensis wrote:
On August 01 2009 09:23 clazziquai wrote:
On August 01 2009 09:04 Elemenope wrote:
On August 01 2009 09:02 clazziquai wrote:
On August 01 2009 08:20 Ace wrote:
On August 01 2009 07:42 clazziquai wrote:
Ace, what makes you say I am Ukranian...?


because someone investigated you and told me you're a Rebel. Duh.


you trust people way too easily?? how do you know he can be trusted......lol wow....


how do we know that we can trust you that you aren't a rebel?


Uhh, so by saying that, you think I'm a Ukranian Rebel. What makes you so sure?

Yeah, someone "rolechecked" me and said that I am a rebel. Why do you trust him more than you trust me? Fuck, I or anyone else could have done the same. This seriously confuses me. Just because Ace is the town leader? Please enlighten me.

However like you said in your post, I can't prove to you guys that I am not a rebel

This shit sucks.
But the decision is up to the public. Get rid of me and you waste a lynch.

Oh well. Fucking pathetic.


Clazz, let me explain this to you.

If we lynch the informant and he's a rebel, sure they're down one but we learn NOTHING.
If we lynch no one, we make no progress.
If we lynch you and you're a rebel, they're down one and we now have access to an NVDK we can trust.

Lynching you is the most logical course of action.


actually it's a bit more than that. Normally on Day 1 the accusing DT is lynched first so we know which direction to go. However this game is a bit different:

1.) NKVDs can disguise as Rebels.
2.) We've already exhausted the idea that no NKVD should disguise themselves as Rebels

With both 1 and 2 out of the way, this brings about the fact that anyone investigated is really likely to be a Rebel. Even ignoring Clazz's pitiful defense for a while I normally wouldn't have even brought it out into the open but Clazz had another strike against him - this:

Show nested quote +

L 8
~OpZ~
Storrzerg
Ver
Kuja900
Motbob
L
Clazziquai
motbob


This is the list of people that voted for L. I wasn't kidding when I said this list is suspect. Everyone who voted on this list with the exception of L himself painted them self a suspect. L literally ran on NO platform and said so himself. Myself and MountainDew were the only ones who made a real platform, while L and Lucaswoj didn't. It would even be better if any of these people stated a reason for voting L that made some sense but barely anyone did. These were my first suspects of the game along with the people who have been shadowing me. So Clazz got caught on a very suspect list, got RCd and flipped Rebel which we know is damn near accurate right now and is using the Vivi57 defense of lynch me and you'll be mad which we know is shit.

Clazz has 3 strikes against him. It's over.

Those two reasons mean jack shit. Its still the DT vs Clazz, I have always argued that lynching the accused is the best way to go about it, you always argued the contrary. I agree with you that its better to lynch the accusing to cut that shit out, and you just get PMed by someone?

I am calling bullshit on these reasons. You are the NKVD. I can't see you changing under those circumstances alone. It changes LITERALLY nothing. Its the same as a game without a Miller where you would pull the same scenario, except kill the accuser.

So I am assuming you are NKVD. So I am going to be okay with your lynch, but I figure there is no need to hide your logic changing so dramatically. Why you checked clazz is beyond me, probably because of L's list that you consider suspect.
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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
August 01 2009 08:49 GMT
#566
I just caught 2 rebels
i mass sent pm to ten people and i caught out kuja, this is our pm convo
+ Show Spoiler +
Im not confirming or denying but lets talk on irc, are u willing to do that account exchange thing again to confirm?

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
Hey man i just role checked you and its good to know that were both rebels, we need to get this rebel web setup, if you want you can rc me but thats just a waste of time
lets get an irc setup or something


Then this is our irc convo
+ Show Spoiler +

<Lee-Scara-Jay> whats up man
<Kuja900> yo
<Kuja900> how does kuja know ur not pulling a rebirth of legend?
<Lee-Scara-Jay> idk how to prove that
<Lee-Scara-Jay> the best way is to rc me but we dont have time
<Kuja900> are u willing to do that account exchange thing we did a few games ago?
<Lee-Scara-Jay> nah i was told byplexa
<Lee-Scara-Jay> that i'd be modbanned from any other game
<Lee-Scara-Jay> if i did that again
<Lee-Scara-Jay> and he checks every game now
<Kuja900> hrmm that truely makes it hard to believe then
<Kuja900> scara u swear ud never screw over a faggy little comerade?
<Lee-Scara-Jay> never
<Lee-Scara-Jay> i would never ever
<Lee-Scara-Jay> screw over a fellow rebel
<Kuja900> and if u do you invite all hells furies upon you including the fury of ten thousand suns?
<Lee-Scara-Jay> lol ohk
<Lee-Scara-Jay> so who did you rc last night
<Kuja900> rebirthoflegend i had a hunch
<Lee-Scara-Jay> so hes townie
<Kuja900> nope hes a rebel
<Kuja900> ogod watch there be only 2 rebels i didnt read and ur mafia
<Kuja900> and im fucked lol
<Lee-Scara-Jay> wait so he mass pmed people
<Lee-Scara-Jay> to make him look innocent
<Lee-Scara-Jay> but hes a rebel aswell
<Kuja900> yep i had a massive hunch he was finding other rebel
<Kuja900> and that he counting on other rebel checking him
<Kuja900> im worried mafia will have same hunch
<Lee-Scara-Jay> so have you talked to rebirth?
<Kuja900> i sent him pm no reply
<Lee-Scara-Jay>
<Lee-Scara-Jay> let me know what he says
<Kuja900> well i know hes rebel so dont matter im sure hes in
<Kuja900> but that was a balsy move
<Lee-Scara-Jay> by him?
<Kuja900> yes
<Lee-Scara-Jay> if you think about it
<Lee-Scara-Jay> it makes him look innocent
<Lee-Scara-Jay> and can connect us up really fast
<Kuja900> not to me i figured it out it was obvious he wasnt a mere towny
<Lee-Scara-Jay> yeah
<Kuja900> well i suppose we can coordinate now
<Lee-Scara-Jay> brb 2 secs
<Kuja900> "
<Kuja900> Your homework: Write a PM you would send, as a rebel, to someone you just RC'ed as a rebel. Send a copy of that PM to 10 players at random, addressing them with their name."
<Kuja900> if your doing this i will find u in australia and rip your balls off by the hilt
<Lee-Scara-Jay> thats what im afraid of
<Lee-Scara-Jay> this can fuck up our cordination
<Lee-Scara-Jay> so much
<Lee-Scara-Jay> back btw
<Kuja900> grr i not gna rc u cause i need my powa but goddamn im iffy about u!
<Lee-Scara-Jay> ah man i know how you feel
<Kuja900> can u pm me your roll sent to u by caller?
<Lee-Scara-Jay> specially with that mass pm going on
<Lee-Scara-Jay> yeah 2 secs
<Kuja900> id normally never trust anyone but ur scara and id like to think we got a remote bond lol
<Lee-Scara-Jay> i just gotta go to the toliet
<Kuja900> lol charming
<Lee-Scara-Jay> Ukrainian Rebel: You are corrupt criminal that is poisoning our country! After Ukrainian Resistance Leader was executed by NKVD, you do not know fellow Ukrainians, nyet nyet nyet! You may do research on one person a night, da, to determine their role, or you may kill one person a night-be warned, you may kill own treacherous scum if you are not careful, da!
<Lee-Scara-Jay> If you have any questions, please PM me
<Lee-Scara-Jay> back
<Lee-Scara-Jay>
<Kuja900> Ukrainian Rebel: You are defender of Ukrainian Republic from all those that seek your destruction! You have two abilities, one usable per night: you may kill a person or you may role check them. Be warned, you do not know who the other Ukrainians are! Your job is to reduce the Red Army down to a force that can be dealt with. Find your fellow Ukrainians and coordinate your attacks! Be weary of infiltrators, however!
<Lee-Scara-Jay> well damm
<Lee-Scara-Jay> at least i got 2 rebels
<Kuja900> why are they differnt?
<Lee-Scara-Jay> beacuse im not a rebel
<Lee-Scara-Jay> you are
<Kuja900> lol
<Kuja900> perfect
<Lee-Scara-Jay> sorry man
<Kuja900> meh i kinda knew it
<Kuja900> your going to kill me arent u ;(
<Lee-Scara-Jay> im gonna post this in the thread yes
<Kuja900> lol not in the thread let me preserve my dignity
<Kuja900> cause im a mafia newb ;(
<Lee-Scara-Jay> nah man i caught 2 this is so awsome
<Kuja900> lol
<Kuja900> have mercy ; ;
<Lee-Scara-Jay> sorry man T_T


LYNCH KUJA AND REBIRTH TOMORROW NIGHT AFTER CLAZZ

Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
August 01 2009 08:54 GMT
#567
On August 01 2009 17:49 Scaramanga wrote:
I just caught 2 rebels
i mass sent pm to ten people and i caught out kuja, this is our pm convo
+ Show Spoiler +
Im not confirming or denying but lets talk on irc, are u willing to do that account exchange thing again to confirm?

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
Hey man i just role checked you and its good to know that were both rebels, we need to get this rebel web setup, if you want you can rc me but thats just a waste of time
lets get an irc setup or something


Then this is our irc convo
+ Show Spoiler +

<Lee-Scara-Jay> whats up man
<Kuja900> yo
<Kuja900> how does kuja know ur not pulling a rebirth of legend?
<Lee-Scara-Jay> idk how to prove that
<Lee-Scara-Jay> the best way is to rc me but we dont have time
<Kuja900> are u willing to do that account exchange thing we did a few games ago?
<Lee-Scara-Jay> nah i was told byplexa
<Lee-Scara-Jay> that i'd be modbanned from any other game
<Lee-Scara-Jay> if i did that again
<Lee-Scara-Jay> and he checks every game now
<Kuja900> hrmm that truely makes it hard to believe then
<Kuja900> scara u swear ud never screw over a faggy little comerade?
<Lee-Scara-Jay> never
<Lee-Scara-Jay> i would never ever
<Lee-Scara-Jay> screw over a fellow rebel
<Kuja900> and if u do you invite all hells furies upon you including the fury of ten thousand suns?
<Lee-Scara-Jay> lol ohk
<Lee-Scara-Jay> so who did you rc last night
<Kuja900> rebirthoflegend i had a hunch
<Lee-Scara-Jay> so hes townie
<Kuja900> nope hes a rebel
<Kuja900> ogod watch there be only 2 rebels i didnt read and ur mafia
<Kuja900> and im fucked lol
<Lee-Scara-Jay> wait so he mass pmed people
<Lee-Scara-Jay> to make him look innocent
<Lee-Scara-Jay> but hes a rebel aswell
<Kuja900> yep i had a massive hunch he was finding other rebel
<Kuja900> and that he counting on other rebel checking him
<Kuja900> im worried mafia will have same hunch
<Lee-Scara-Jay> so have you talked to rebirth?
<Kuja900> i sent him pm no reply
<Lee-Scara-Jay>
<Lee-Scara-Jay> let me know what he says
<Kuja900> well i know hes rebel so dont matter im sure hes in
<Kuja900> but that was a balsy move
<Lee-Scara-Jay> by him?
<Kuja900> yes
<Lee-Scara-Jay> if you think about it
<Lee-Scara-Jay> it makes him look innocent
<Lee-Scara-Jay> and can connect us up really fast
<Kuja900> not to me i figured it out it was obvious he wasnt a mere towny
<Lee-Scara-Jay> yeah
<Kuja900> well i suppose we can coordinate now
<Lee-Scara-Jay> brb 2 secs
<Kuja900> "
<Kuja900> Your homework: Write a PM you would send, as a rebel, to someone you just RC'ed as a rebel. Send a copy of that PM to 10 players at random, addressing them with their name."
<Kuja900> if your doing this i will find u in australia and rip your balls off by the hilt
<Lee-Scara-Jay> thats what im afraid of
<Lee-Scara-Jay> this can fuck up our cordination
<Lee-Scara-Jay> so much
<Lee-Scara-Jay> back btw
<Kuja900> grr i not gna rc u cause i need my powa but goddamn im iffy about u!
<Lee-Scara-Jay> ah man i know how you feel
<Kuja900> can u pm me your roll sent to u by caller?
<Lee-Scara-Jay> specially with that mass pm going on
<Lee-Scara-Jay> yeah 2 secs
<Kuja900> id normally never trust anyone but ur scara and id like to think we got a remote bond lol
<Lee-Scara-Jay> i just gotta go to the toliet
<Kuja900> lol charming
<Lee-Scara-Jay> Ukrainian Rebel: You are corrupt criminal that is poisoning our country! After Ukrainian Resistance Leader was executed by NKVD, you do not know fellow Ukrainians, nyet nyet nyet! You may do research on one person a night, da, to determine their role, or you may kill one person a night-be warned, you may kill own treacherous scum if you are not careful, da!
<Lee-Scara-Jay> If you have any questions, please PM me
<Lee-Scara-Jay> back
<Lee-Scara-Jay>
<Kuja900> Ukrainian Rebel: You are defender of Ukrainian Republic from all those that seek your destruction! You have two abilities, one usable per night: you may kill a person or you may role check them. Be warned, you do not know who the other Ukrainians are! Your job is to reduce the Red Army down to a force that can be dealt with. Find your fellow Ukrainians and coordinate your attacks! Be weary of infiltrators, however!
<Lee-Scara-Jay> well damm
<Lee-Scara-Jay> at least i got 2 rebels
<Kuja900> why are they differnt?
<Lee-Scara-Jay> beacuse im not a rebel
<Lee-Scara-Jay> you are
<Kuja900> lol
<Kuja900> perfect
<Lee-Scara-Jay> sorry man
<Kuja900> meh i kinda knew it
<Kuja900> your going to kill me arent u ;(
<Lee-Scara-Jay> im gonna post this in the thread yes
<Kuja900> lol not in the thread let me preserve my dignity
<Kuja900> cause im a mafia newb ;(
<Lee-Scara-Jay> nah man i caught 2 this is so awsome
<Kuja900> lol
<Kuja900> have mercy ; ;
<Lee-Scara-Jay> sorry man T_T


LYNCH KUJA AND REBIRTH TOMORROW NIGHT AFTER CLAZZ


lol i cant believe kuja fell for that.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-01 09:28:41
August 01 2009 09:12 GMT
#568
ebwop: im not sure about that rc on rebirth but that pm proves that hes kujas a rebel
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 01 2009 10:37 GMT
#569
On August 01 2009 15:38 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2009 11:31 Ace wrote:
On August 01 2009 10:44 Sinensis wrote:
On August 01 2009 09:23 clazziquai wrote:
On August 01 2009 09:04 Elemenope wrote:
On August 01 2009 09:02 clazziquai wrote:
On August 01 2009 08:20 Ace wrote:
On August 01 2009 07:42 clazziquai wrote:
Ace, what makes you say I am Ukranian...?


because someone investigated you and told me you're a Rebel. Duh.


you trust people way too easily?? how do you know he can be trusted......lol wow....


how do we know that we can trust you that you aren't a rebel?


Uhh, so by saying that, you think I'm a Ukranian Rebel. What makes you so sure?

Yeah, someone "rolechecked" me and said that I am a rebel. Why do you trust him more than you trust me? Fuck, I or anyone else could have done the same. This seriously confuses me. Just because Ace is the town leader? Please enlighten me.

However like you said in your post, I can't prove to you guys that I am not a rebel

This shit sucks.
But the decision is up to the public. Get rid of me and you waste a lynch.

Oh well. Fucking pathetic.


Clazz, let me explain this to you.

If we lynch the informant and he's a rebel, sure they're down one but we learn NOTHING.
If we lynch no one, we make no progress.
If we lynch you and you're a rebel, they're down one and we now have access to an NVDK we can trust.

Lynching you is the most logical course of action.


actually it's a bit more than that. Normally on Day 1 the accusing DT is lynched first so we know which direction to go. However this game is a bit different:

1.) NKVDs can disguise as Rebels.
2.) We've already exhausted the idea that no NKVD should disguise themselves as Rebels

With both 1 and 2 out of the way, this brings about the fact that anyone investigated is really likely to be a Rebel. Even ignoring Clazz's pitiful defense for a while I normally wouldn't have even brought it out into the open but Clazz had another strike against him - this:


L 8
~OpZ~
Storrzerg
Ver
Kuja900
Motbob
L
Clazziquai
motbob


This is the list of people that voted for L. I wasn't kidding when I said this list is suspect. Everyone who voted on this list with the exception of L himself painted them self a suspect. L literally ran on NO platform and said so himself. Myself and MountainDew were the only ones who made a real platform, while L and Lucaswoj didn't. It would even be better if any of these people stated a reason for voting L that made some sense but barely anyone did. These were my first suspects of the game along with the people who have been shadowing me. So Clazz got caught on a very suspect list, got RCd and flipped Rebel which we know is damn near accurate right now and is using the Vivi57 defense of lynch me and you'll be mad which we know is shit.

Clazz has 3 strikes against him. It's over.


Wow fuck off Ace...I actually like L because...he isn't a dick like you. Think I've said that before actually...And I've seen him with nice clue analysis, so him living longer is more of a plus to me. Is that a point you'd like to argue too?

And Ace's belief that NKVD's shouldn't disguise as rebels is still something I don't agree on. So we haven't beaten that horse dead yet Ace. Disorganization amongst the mafia = plus. The rebel's can't risk messaging that way because the agent can tell the public. But you're too stupid to realize that?


you're bad at this game. Just shut the fuck up and be quiet. Let the good players do their work.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 01 2009 10:38 GMT
#570
On August 01 2009 17:49 Scaramanga wrote:
I just caught 2 rebels
i mass sent pm to ten people and i caught out kuja, this is our pm convo
+ Show Spoiler +
Im not confirming or denying but lets talk on irc, are u willing to do that account exchange thing again to confirm?

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
Hey man i just role checked you and its good to know that were both rebels, we need to get this rebel web setup, if you want you can rc me but thats just a waste of time
lets get an irc setup or something


Then this is our irc convo
+ Show Spoiler +

<Lee-Scara-Jay> whats up man
<Kuja900> yo
<Kuja900> how does kuja know ur not pulling a rebirth of legend?
<Lee-Scara-Jay> idk how to prove that
<Lee-Scara-Jay> the best way is to rc me but we dont have time
<Kuja900> are u willing to do that account exchange thing we did a few games ago?
<Lee-Scara-Jay> nah i was told byplexa
<Lee-Scara-Jay> that i'd be modbanned from any other game
<Lee-Scara-Jay> if i did that again
<Lee-Scara-Jay> and he checks every game now
<Kuja900> hrmm that truely makes it hard to believe then
<Kuja900> scara u swear ud never screw over a faggy little comerade?
<Lee-Scara-Jay> never
<Lee-Scara-Jay> i would never ever
<Lee-Scara-Jay> screw over a fellow rebel
<Kuja900> and if u do you invite all hells furies upon you including the fury of ten thousand suns?
<Lee-Scara-Jay> lol ohk
<Lee-Scara-Jay> so who did you rc last night
<Kuja900> rebirthoflegend i had a hunch
<Lee-Scara-Jay> so hes townie
<Kuja900> nope hes a rebel
<Kuja900> ogod watch there be only 2 rebels i didnt read and ur mafia
<Kuja900> and im fucked lol
<Lee-Scara-Jay> wait so he mass pmed people
<Lee-Scara-Jay> to make him look innocent
<Lee-Scara-Jay> but hes a rebel aswell
<Kuja900> yep i had a massive hunch he was finding other rebel
<Kuja900> and that he counting on other rebel checking him
<Kuja900> im worried mafia will have same hunch
<Lee-Scara-Jay> so have you talked to rebirth?
<Kuja900> i sent him pm no reply
<Lee-Scara-Jay>
<Lee-Scara-Jay> let me know what he says
<Kuja900> well i know hes rebel so dont matter im sure hes in
<Kuja900> but that was a balsy move
<Lee-Scara-Jay> by him?
<Kuja900> yes
<Lee-Scara-Jay> if you think about it
<Lee-Scara-Jay> it makes him look innocent
<Lee-Scara-Jay> and can connect us up really fast
<Kuja900> not to me i figured it out it was obvious he wasnt a mere towny
<Lee-Scara-Jay> yeah
<Kuja900> well i suppose we can coordinate now
<Lee-Scara-Jay> brb 2 secs
<Kuja900> "
<Kuja900> Your homework: Write a PM you would send, as a rebel, to someone you just RC'ed as a rebel. Send a copy of that PM to 10 players at random, addressing them with their name."
<Kuja900> if your doing this i will find u in australia and rip your balls off by the hilt
<Lee-Scara-Jay> thats what im afraid of
<Lee-Scara-Jay> this can fuck up our cordination
<Lee-Scara-Jay> so much
<Lee-Scara-Jay> back btw
<Kuja900> grr i not gna rc u cause i need my powa but goddamn im iffy about u!
<Lee-Scara-Jay> ah man i know how you feel
<Kuja900> can u pm me your roll sent to u by caller?
<Lee-Scara-Jay> specially with that mass pm going on
<Lee-Scara-Jay> yeah 2 secs
<Kuja900> id normally never trust anyone but ur scara and id like to think we got a remote bond lol
<Lee-Scara-Jay> i just gotta go to the toliet
<Kuja900> lol charming
<Lee-Scara-Jay> Ukrainian Rebel: You are corrupt criminal that is poisoning our country! After Ukrainian Resistance Leader was executed by NKVD, you do not know fellow Ukrainians, nyet nyet nyet! You may do research on one person a night, da, to determine their role, or you may kill one person a night-be warned, you may kill own treacherous scum if you are not careful, da!
<Lee-Scara-Jay> If you have any questions, please PM me
<Lee-Scara-Jay> back
<Lee-Scara-Jay>
<Kuja900> Ukrainian Rebel: You are defender of Ukrainian Republic from all those that seek your destruction! You have two abilities, one usable per night: you may kill a person or you may role check them. Be warned, you do not know who the other Ukrainians are! Your job is to reduce the Red Army down to a force that can be dealt with. Find your fellow Ukrainians and coordinate your attacks! Be weary of infiltrators, however!
<Lee-Scara-Jay> well damm
<Lee-Scara-Jay> at least i got 2 rebels
<Kuja900> why are they differnt?
<Lee-Scara-Jay> beacuse im not a rebel
<Lee-Scara-Jay> you are
<Kuja900> lol
<Kuja900> perfect
<Lee-Scara-Jay> sorry man
<Kuja900> meh i kinda knew it
<Kuja900> your going to kill me arent u ;(
<Lee-Scara-Jay> im gonna post this in the thread yes
<Kuja900> lol not in the thread let me preserve my dignity
<Kuja900> cause im a mafia newb ;(
<Lee-Scara-Jay> nah man i caught 2 this is so awsome
<Kuja900> lol
<Kuja900> have mercy ; ;
<Lee-Scara-Jay> sorry man T_T


LYNCH KUJA AND REBIRTH TOMORROW NIGHT AFTER CLAZZ


LOL RAPE
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-01 13:36:18
August 01 2009 13:12 GMT
#571
On August 01 2009 17:49 Scaramanga wrote:
LYNCH KUJA AND REBIRTH TOMORROW NIGHT AFTER CLAZZ

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In Soviet Russia, Mission Accomplished actually means Mission Accomplished

The spam campaign was originally intended to prevent rebel organization more than to catch rebels. Scaramanga's findings are merely a bonus. Don't slack off townies, you have a duty to the motherland to clog the tubes of the internet with our righteous message!
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LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
August 01 2009 13:29 GMT
#572
On August 01 2009 19:37 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2009 15:38 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On August 01 2009 11:31 Ace wrote:
On August 01 2009 10:44 Sinensis wrote:
On August 01 2009 09:23 clazziquai wrote:
On August 01 2009 09:04 Elemenope wrote:
On August 01 2009 09:02 clazziquai wrote:
On August 01 2009 08:20 Ace wrote:
On August 01 2009 07:42 clazziquai wrote:
Ace, what makes you say I am Ukranian...?


because someone investigated you and told me you're a Rebel. Duh.


you trust people way too easily?? how do you know he can be trusted......lol wow....


how do we know that we can trust you that you aren't a rebel?


Uhh, so by saying that, you think I'm a Ukranian Rebel. What makes you so sure?

Yeah, someone "rolechecked" me and said that I am a rebel. Why do you trust him more than you trust me? Fuck, I or anyone else could have done the same. This seriously confuses me. Just because Ace is the town leader? Please enlighten me.

However like you said in your post, I can't prove to you guys that I am not a rebel

This shit sucks.
But the decision is up to the public. Get rid of me and you waste a lynch.

Oh well. Fucking pathetic.


Clazz, let me explain this to you.

If we lynch the informant and he's a rebel, sure they're down one but we learn NOTHING.
If we lynch no one, we make no progress.
If we lynch you and you're a rebel, they're down one and we now have access to an NVDK we can trust.

Lynching you is the most logical course of action.


actually it's a bit more than that. Normally on Day 1 the accusing DT is lynched first so we know which direction to go. However this game is a bit different:

1.) NKVDs can disguise as Rebels.
2.) We've already exhausted the idea that no NKVD should disguise themselves as Rebels

With both 1 and 2 out of the way, this brings about the fact that anyone investigated is really likely to be a Rebel. Even ignoring Clazz's pitiful defense for a while I normally wouldn't have even brought it out into the open but Clazz had another strike against him - this:


L 8
~OpZ~
Storrzerg
Ver
Kuja900
Motbob
L
Clazziquai
motbob


This is the list of people that voted for L. I wasn't kidding when I said this list is suspect. Everyone who voted on this list with the exception of L himself painted them self a suspect. L literally ran on NO platform and said so himself. Myself and MountainDew were the only ones who made a real platform, while L and Lucaswoj didn't. It would even be better if any of these people stated a reason for voting L that made some sense but barely anyone did. These were my first suspects of the game along with the people who have been shadowing me. So Clazz got caught on a very suspect list, got RCd and flipped Rebel which we know is damn near accurate right now and is using the Vivi57 defense of lynch me and you'll be mad which we know is shit.

Clazz has 3 strikes against him. It's over.


Wow fuck off Ace...I actually like L because...he isn't a dick like you. Think I've said that before actually...And I've seen him with nice clue analysis, so him living longer is more of a plus to me. Is that a point you'd like to argue too?

And Ace's belief that NKVD's shouldn't disguise as rebels is still something I don't agree on. So we haven't beaten that horse dead yet Ace. Disorganization amongst the mafia = plus. The rebel's can't risk messaging that way because the agent can tell the public. But you're too stupid to realize that?


you're bad at this game. Just shut the fuck up and be quiet. Let the good players do their work.


How ironic.

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Scara, I'm going to PM you shortly.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
August 01 2009 13:42 GMT
#573
FUCK THIS. SO DUMB.
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
August 01 2009 13:43 GMT
#574
it's also obvious that the little birdie is a fucking little scum

you'll see
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
August 01 2009 14:32 GMT
#575
On August 01 2009 10:44 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2009 09:23 clazziquai wrote:
On August 01 2009 09:04 Elemenope wrote:
On August 01 2009 09:02 clazziquai wrote:
On August 01 2009 08:20 Ace wrote:
On August 01 2009 07:42 clazziquai wrote:
Ace, what makes you say I am Ukranian...?


because someone investigated you and told me you're a Rebel. Duh.


you trust people way too easily?? how do you know he can be trusted......lol wow....


how do we know that we can trust you that you aren't a rebel?


Uhh, so by saying that, you think I'm a Ukranian Rebel. What makes you so sure?

Yeah, someone "rolechecked" me and said that I am a rebel. Why do you trust him more than you trust me? Fuck, I or anyone else could have done the same. This seriously confuses me. Just because Ace is the town leader? Please enlighten me.

However like you said in your post, I can't prove to you guys that I am not a rebel

This shit sucks.
But the decision is up to the public. Get rid of me and you waste a lynch.

Oh well. Fucking pathetic.


Clazz, let me explain this to you.

If we lynch the informant and he's a rebel, sure they're down one but we learn NOTHING.
If we lynch no one, we make no progress.
If we lynch you and you're a rebel, they're down one and we now have access to an NVDK we can trust.

Lynching you is the most logical course of action.


yeah i understand.
so unfair though. why me of all people......whoever rolechecked me must have some grudge against me ;p
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
August 01 2009 14:40 GMT
#576
<Kuja900> id normally never trust anyone but ur scara and id like to think we got a remote bond lol

In many countries including russia.. this would translate as gay.

good work though. :/
..
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
August 01 2009 15:08 GMT
#577
oh wow
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
August 01 2009 15:38 GMT
#578
Ugh.
These random fishing PM's are annoying but funny at the same time.
靈魂交響曲
Elemenope
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
August 01 2009 15:41 GMT
#579
This is quite an interesting turn of events.

Scum also missed a good opportunity window to organize; and it's mainly Kuja's fault if that IRC conversation is true and Kuja is in fact dumb. However, each individual scum is also to blame themselves for missing the opportunity.

Again, this is assuming everything said in the IRC chat is true.
In DotA you could
Elemenope
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
August 01 2009 15:45 GMT
#580
On July 31 2009 11:12 Caller wrote:
Nttea was cleaved to death by Comrade Admiral Kunkka.



Just noticed this and so I reply with:

why don't you play with us
In DotA you could
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