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Ok people change of plans.
If im elected the list provided above, will be a list i will push to have people lynched off of tommorrow (subject to change from clues).
Instead for autolynch, it will be done differently.
A top player (ie well known vet) will be killed instead. There is a reason for this.
If the player is red, we off one of the mafia's top players instantly.
IF he is blue/green, the priest will instantly start to resurrect the player. This will give us a confirmed townie, and 2 days later he will respawn.
Now, this is a gamble, however, I believe it be worth the risk, as well you all are hesitant to trust either myself or L, this will provide an option for the town to instead trust a mayoral official based on a good lynch or b) a safe person to entrust your role to via their resurrection.
I still advocate voting fog first night.
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Btw,
8/8 Mafia alive. (Current killing power = 5)
1/1 Suicide Bomner alive.
1/1 Godfather alive.
so, 6 non-Godfather, non-Bomber mafia.
With fog...
6 pledges, 1 non, 1 god => 3/2+1/2+1=3 total hits
5/2/1=>5/4+1+1=13/4=3.25=4 total hits
4/3/1=>1+3/2+1=7/2=3.5=4 total hits
3/4/1=>3/4+2+1=15/4=3.75=4 total hits
2/5/1=>1/2+5/2+1=4 total hits
1/6/1=>1/4+3+1=4.25=5 total hits
So not bad for reducing KP by 1. I guess we can always figure out a way to get pledges without the voting list check.
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BC's plan doesnt sound bad, but I don't agree that we need to kill of one of our vets to make it work. Loosing a good player for 2 days makes a huge difference when we could also just use a random player. So instead of taking the risk of loosing someone good like Mrbabyhand who (if he is town) can be a huge contribution to the town, if we don't have a definitive suspect for the day 1 lynch, lynch someone that isn't that good.
I'd volunteer myself since I am townie, but I can still get the BG role and then it would be a waste.
As for the mayor vote, I'm still not sure of the alignment of the people running for office, so I will abstain for this first vote and just go with what the majority of the town thinks.
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I'm sorry, that I seem so inactive to you, BC.
In fact, I tried to contribute something to the thread, but I failed
to find any good clues in the day post, nor have I found any leads
while googling for the players names/phrases from the day post.
I thought it would be kind of unnecessary to just post stuff like
"Ye, fog seems pretty good, reduce KP and find out how many pledges there are n stuff".
So I just kept reading the thread and submitted my weather/emperor votes.
As for why I voted L for emperor, I'm being honest with you that I don't know your
playing styles from previous games, but you guys seemed both equally competent.
It was actually nothing but this phrase of yours "I am already seeing idiocy of players that has led to many vets getting insanely discouraged with playing these games." that sounded pretty arrogant to me and made me vote for L. I guess I should've just abstained from voting and let
people with more experience do the voting.
Well, from now on I'll try harder to participate in the clue analysis and bring forth our hunt on
the mafia. 
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I see a lot of math...
If that's what you're planning for BC, I'd say lynch MBH first.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
[No Clue Area]
It had been a traumatic day, but at last Liquiville had something to celebrate. A new Emperor had been elected; a powerful new leader to take a staunch stance against the Mafia. Emperor BloodyC0bbler took to the podium amongst a sea of cheering fans. His impassioned speech (not unlike Obama) detailed an extensive plan to protect Liquiville and eliminate the Mafia. His first act as Emperor was to pick someone to be lynched.
"Seize him!" yelled BloodyC0bbler and a swarm of officials instantly grabbed MrBabyHands out of the crowd. Without an utterance of a word, he was taken to the gallows where the lynching would commence. MrBabyHands's silence was troubling to the town, and they worried that they might have the wrong man. The floor gave way and the noose tightened around MrBabyHands' neck and green blood spilled over the ground. All but BloodyC0bbler looked troubled by this outcome, but the mighty Emperor had a plan.
The town departed, troubled, as fog rolled in across the land...
Fog is in effect until the next day, Mafia kill power is reduced to 4.
If you have an ability to be activated tonight (Priest, Angel, Mafia, Godfather) please PM me with your actions so we can get Night over as quickly as possible.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
At first I was a little pissed that you picked MBH but now that I think about it, it's the perfect choice... who else would you want coordinating the town?
Too bad he can't talk for 2 days :\
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Too bad he can't talk for 2 days :\
A clue about the priest will be revealed on the first night tho.
So if the mafia find out who the priest is, they can pick him off before he has
finished reviving MBH and MBH will be silenced even longer.
I guess one of the angels should protect the priest, so the revival process won't fail.
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Sydney2287 Posts
Ok so the priest should be reviving MBH right about now.
And imagine how hilarious it would have been if MBH was the priest!
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On July 05 2009 23:08 ecomania wrote:A clue about the priest will be revealed on the first night tho. So if the mafia find out who the priest is, they can pick him off before he has finished reviving MBH and MBH will be silenced even longer. I guess one of the angels should protect the priest, so the revival process won't fail.
there is an obvious flaw in your plan
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
Actually, wow, rain works perfectly for this. We need to vote for rain tomorrow, since the suicide bomber won't be able to bomb the priest and the angels have more of a chance to protect the priest.
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It's a good thing Plexa got rid of the Change of Heart Godfather ability. Just imagine if MBH was revived, and changed to mafia. We'd trust him as a confirmed townie, and it would all be downhill from there. 
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I am on board with future lynches going after inactives. I've seen games end because even though the town had enough people to win, nobody voted to lynch the mafia, they were just all inactive. Inactives only hurt the town, not the mafia. An inactive mafioso still gets his hits ordered by the godfather, but an inactive townie doesn't do any good.
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Dear Scamp: Get more active. That shit isn't going to work twice in a row.
-L
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So true, and it's much easier for mafia to hide in the inactives if there town is largely inactive. The more people posting, the more mafia has to post (or look suspicious for not posting) and can end up making a mistake of some sort.
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Ah, apparently this plan happened while I was sleeping -.-
I'm on lunch break right now so this post will be short, but although I agree with the general premise of the plan. I don't agree on who was lynched.
If we make the standard assumption that mafia is running for office, and we go further with that by saying a GF is running for office since rolechecks can happen now for the mayor candidate:
Why not lynch L instead of MBH?
Although, in my opinion, MBH would seem like a bigger threat if he were mafia, you said yourself;
So by day 2-3 town would easily have [MBH's] orientation pegged.
With this plan, although good in theory, it seems wasted on MBH as all we're getting is extra insurance of MBH's alignment, but now we're risking losing the priest's power completely.
We also lose MBH's ideas/analysis of people for the next 2 or 3 days or whatever, and we may lose them completely if the priest is found; and if angels can find the priest, then I'm sure mafia can figure it out, too; but then again,
Historically medics have sucked more than any other role in the game, IE don't depend on them early game, how hard is this to understand, MEDICS DO NOT WIN GAMES. This instantly gets rid of the damn rain option.
Aren't we kind of doing that now? And if our medics are as incompetent as TL history shows, then the priest might not even have protection at all. Although I realize the quote was trying to advise fog over rain, the thoughts and premise behind it also apply here since we're going to most likely have to use rain because of the suicide bomber. Yeah, mafia might lose a KP because of that, but does it really matter? It gets rid of a major power role of a network of confirmed innocents and the priest basically reduces mafia KP by .33 anyway as long as his ability is used every moment.
Now we have to wait til Day 4(?) for us to make use of MBH.
I just feel that if we lynched L, we would've gained a lot more information in comparison to MBH who we find out is innocent (which is a plus), but we would've found that out anyway tomorrow or the next day.
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On July 05 2009 15:15 JeeJee wrote:
take lmnop off that list, waste of lynch
<3 also ;3
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And just incase people are confused (for some reason) about where those quotes came from in my post at 1:07, both came from BC.
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Sorry, I've been on vacation the past few days. I won't be as active as last game because of my new hours (sucks working 10 PM - 6 AM then going back in at 3 PM to 11 PM that same day). However, I'll try to do what I can.
Priest mechanic makes this a very nice play.
Clue analysis time!
All was quiet in the town of Liquiville. The sleepy town had never been one which dabbled in the troubles of bigger cities and was content to live a simple country life. The moon was high in the sky with the light filtering through the windows of the village folk when the silence was broken by a shrill sharp yell. Confused, two of the village folk went out to investigate the strange noises. Their search lead them to the Emperor’s Palace, a find they wished they could just forget.
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The moon was high in the sky with the light filtering through the windows of the village folk when the silence was broken by a shrill sharp yell. - Shrill, sharp yell is pretty strong wording.
As they stepped through the gates they saw a sight which resembled a bloody battle. The bodyguards were strung up on lines like a human clothes line. Blood spilling from their gored bodies and pooling on the ground. The two forced themselves to continue on, for the sake of the town. They tread through the blood and into the inner palace. Little did Camlito and Ace know that this foolish move would be their last. As they entered, a bomb went off to their right, sending a pillar crashing down on top of the poor innocent townies. Both were flattened into human pancakes.
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The bodyguards were strung up on lines like a human clothes line. - Someone likes making a display out of their victims.
As they entered, a bomb went off to their right, sending a pillar crashing down on top of the poor innocent townies. - Been said before, but we're looking for our suicide bomber here most likely.
The events at the Palace were not yet through for the night. Plexa, the Emperor, had heard the noises, seen his Bodyguards brutally tortured and murdered and heard the explosion down stairs. He knew that whoever the intruders were, they were after him. Fortunately Plexa’s Palace was well equipped with hiding places after his Uncle’s erratic fear of giant spiders. It was not difficult for him to completely conceal his presence in the room.
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Two men were rummaging around in a room nearby, where exactly he could not tell. The sounds came closer and closer and very soon they were in the same room as him. He saw two men; one tall and lanky, the other carrying an explosive device. Their plan became immediate to him, they were going to blow his palace up with him inside. The two began setting the device while Plexa buried himself in his hiding place.
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He saw two men; one tall and lanky, the other carrying an explosive device. - Character traits. Same dude with the bombs again.
“Wait” said one of them. Plexa heard footsteps, he heard gun load, he felt the cold of the barrel up against the back of his neck. The man pulled the trigger. The Emperor was dead.
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Plexa heard footsteps, he heard gun load, he felt the cold of the barrel up against the back of his neck. - Gun. Probably the tall, lanky one.
Dawn broke, and the cry of the countless vultures overhead woke the villagers from their slumber. The smell of death filled the air and immediately they all knew their quiet little village would stay quiet no longer. Amongst the ruins of the Palace the village found the body of their beloved Emperor as well as the bodies of his fallen guards. There was a note posted on the town gallows which read “We will not rest until every last villagers is dead. You will all pay for what you have done to me”. The town was confused at this note, but knew what they must do. A new Emperor must be elected, one prepared to fight the Mafia insurgence and save the town from brutal slaughter.
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There was a note posted on the town gallows which read “We will not rest until every last villagers is dead. You will all pay for what you have done to me”. - We have a vendetta.
Granted, a lot of this is probably already been looked over and such, but I figured it might be a help of some kind.
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