No, no. I'm not saying he's suspicious. Just that there are others I can think of that would be more beneficial to the town. Like iloveKTF for example, yet he's not on many of the medic lists at all. But, I suppose you're right about Jimtudor's activity and the running/bandwagoning, as that is what I was mainly worried about. That and when he did post, it wasn't really... anything.

But I suppose you're right about Jayme and such, but I wasn't pointing fingers at suspects at the moment. I was just making a statement about the Medic Lists.

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

May 20 2009 22:12 GMT

#302

iLoveKTF would be the very next person to be added on the list, so he might as well be added. 6 is a nice number, as well. Jimtudor's activity is becoming a concern, though. Still, he's an experienced player, and that's one of the reasons I have him on the list. iLoveKTF probably should be added to the list, but he still hasn't been exactly the most active person, posting mostly short posts repeating what others have said or clarifying some things said before him.

Medic list:
teks
zeks
Jimtudor
iLoveKTF
vx70GTOJudgexv
crate

6 seems like a good number that's not too much or too little. JeeJee's last post about the medic list is important, I suggest every medic to read it through. However, too many mindgames aren't suggested, or else an extremely important townie might be left unprotected and die because of the medics attempting to be too smart.

I think removing Jimtudor from the medic list would be too soon for the first night's list, especially since vigis can't hit yet. If he doesn't start posting more actively, though, we might have to make some changes for the medic list for the next night.

l10f

United States3241 Posts

May 20 2009 23:32 GMT

#303

On May 21 2009 07:12 Shikyo wrote:
iLoveKTF would be the very next person to be added on the list, so he might as well be added. 6 is a nice number, as well. Jimtudor's activity is becoming a concern, though. Still, he's an experienced player, and that's one of the reasons I have him on the list. iLoveKTF probably should be added to the list, but he still hasn't been exactly the most active person, posting mostly short posts repeating what others have said or clarifying some things said before him.

Medic list:
teks
zeks
Jimtudor
iLoveKTF
vx70GTOJudgexv
crate

6 seems like a good number that's not too much or too little. JeeJee's last post about the medic list is important, I suggest every medic to read it through. However, too many mindgames aren't suggested, or else an extremely important townie might be left unprotected and die because of the medics attempting to be too smart.

I think removing Jimtudor from the medic list would be too soon for the first night's list, especially since vigis can't hit yet. If he doesn't start posting more actively, though, we might have to make some changes for the medic list for the next night.

As JeeJee pointed out earlier, the Mafia will just avoid the medic list if only those 6 are to be protected. Therefore I recommend that medics make their own decisions so at least SOME of the people on the list is protected to keep Mafia on their toes, but occasionally protect other possible targets besides ones on the list. This will give us the highest chances of blocking a hit from the Mafia.

chaoser

United States5541 Posts

May 21 2009 00:13 GMT

#304

When is night coming?

l10f

United States3241 Posts

May 21 2009 00:25 GMT

#305

On May 21 2009 09:13 chaoser wrote:
When is night coming?

isn't it already night? Just waiting for the night roles I think.

chaoser

United States5541 Posts

May 21 2009 00:31 GMT

#306

oh right lol, my bad. i want day~~~

vx70GTOJudgexv

United States3161 Posts

May 21 2009 01:13 GMT

#307

Pyrry said there were 8 hours left about 6 hours ago, and he was gonna take a 5 hour nap.

Jimtudor

Canada259 Posts

May 21 2009 01:21 GMT

#308

I am just waiting for night. I promise after the night post for some good analysis.

Jimtudor

Canada259 Posts

May 21 2009 01:24 GMT

#309

Edit:
I meant the day post.

Pyrrhuloxia

United States6700 Posts

May 21 2009 02:45 GMT

#310

Day 2
Jimtudor had no hard feelings about the election. With love for his town in his heart, he prepared to defend the people chosen to lead in this time of crisis. His door bell rang. "Who could it be at this hour?," he thought. A salesman in a flashy tie greeted Jimtudor from his welcome mat and began his pitch. Jimtudor tried to close the door in the man's face, but the man swiftly jammed a metal bar in the doorway and used it to pry the door open, then bash Jimtudor in the head till he died.

Walking through the park in the darkness, Softer began to think he was being stalked, so he hid in the bushes. The figure that had been following him began to search the thicket, and Softer panicked and tried to bolt towards the park's exit. However, before Softer could get away, his stalker whipped him forcefully in the back. Softer flew to the ground, where vicious stomps to the back of the neck took his life.

---End Clues---
The town has lost a bodyguard and a townie. Now it is time to decide who to lynch!

Ace

United States16096 Posts

May 21 2009 02:47 GMT

#311

oh fuck they killed Jim

JeeJee

Canada5652 Posts

May 21 2009 02:49 GMT

#312

Well well. Stacking hits or a medic prot? (if you're a medic that got a pm from pyrr about a successful protting of X, feel free to chat with X knowing they're townie-aligned as vigis cannot act tonight)

Writing up a post. . .

So no fek

United States3001 Posts

May 21 2009 02:52 GMT

#313

Wow, Jimtudor got bodyguard. So we know he isn't mafia. Now the real question is: Was it someone trying to attack someone in office, or get rid of Jimtudor? Either way it makes me think about who's in office. We've all come to the general consensus that mafia is likely either in office, or ran for office. Killing one of the people that ran for office doesn't seem like something that would benefit them, as it would just bring more suspicion onto them. On the other hand, if mafia isn't in office, then they see the people there as a threat, and thus are going through bodyguards for that entire purpose. Of course, killing off your own bodyguards as mafia would be stupid, but it could all just be to throw us off.

Phelix

1931 Posts

May 21 2009 02:58 GMT

#314

So, JimTudor was a bodyguard. It seems that the mafia probably wanted to stack one of the hits to make sure that he went down. The mafia's mentality could be that they would attempt to knock off the medic list one by one.

Jimtudor

Canada259 Posts

May 21 2009 03:02 GMT

#315

gg mafia, gl town! Forward to victory!

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

May 21 2009 03:06 GMT

#316

It seems to me if the mafia wanted to knock of the medic list, they would pick someone on it (as opposed to JimTudor who was only half on the list) and stack votes. Unless they figure nobody would save Jim since he was only half on the list. Perhaps medics made a save.

JeeJee

Canada5652 Posts

May 21 2009 03:06 GMT

#317

Well we have gained a fair amount of information from the flips. Jimtudor's townie/BG. Knowing this we can look at:

63 for jimmy: pawsom, foolishness, wurm,
64 against jimmy: ktf, raxor2, koopie, l10f

By itself, this (it's a little excerpt from a summary of my notes) doesn't tell us much, I just thought it was interesting to bring up who was supporting who.

I was going to do a quick dip into the clues, but I just realized how very short this day post was. Yeah there's only two kills, but remember there's 7 mafia. It's likely that not all mafia are represented in this post.

Yeah this is pretty short but I wanted to toss something out there while I iron out a few problems (and while others hopefully take a stab at the clues)

chaoser

United States5541 Posts

May 21 2009 03:12 GMT

#318

Day 2
Jimtudor had no hard feelings about the election. With love for his town in his heart, he prepared to defend the people chosen to lead in this time of crisis. His door bell rang. "Who could it be at this hour?," he thought. A salesman in a flashy tie greeted Jimtudor from his welcome mat and began his pitch. Jimtudor tried to close the door in the man's face, but the man swiftly jammed a metal bar in the doorway and used it to pry the door open, then bash Jimtudor in the head till he died.

Walking through the park in the darkness, Softer began to think he was being stalked, so he hid in the bushes. The figure that had been following him began to search the thicket, and Softer panicked and tried to bolt towards the park's exit. However, before Softer could get away, his stalker whipped him forcefully in the back. Softer flew to the ground, where vicious stomps to the back of the neck took his life.

the bolded stood out to me. In regards to green ties,

iLoveKT

Philippines3615 Posts

May 21 2009 03:42 GMT

#319

Oh man. I was expecting jimtudor to be red. He really seemed suspicious because he voted for Shikyo, though it didnt matter cause jeejee wouldve won either way, because Jeejee was suspecting him too. Yeah I, along with those who suspected jimtudor, look like mafia right now. But I think the mafia's plan was to kill jimtudor so that the attention will be pointed towards us and not them. I just hope jimtudor didnt role claim to the elected officials cause if he did, we are semi-fucked. And if he did roleclaim, I hope the other BG didnt. Also, If jimtudor roleclaimed then we would know 1 of Jeejee and Shikyo is red.

Right now, I am very suspicious of Shikyo. My theory is that he would put jimtudor in his medic list so that he wont look suspicious if jimtudor died. And if at any case a medic protected jimtudor, the mafia decided to stack 2 hits on him. Ofcourse this wouldnt be true if a medic had a hit blocked last night.

Damn I really thought Jimtudor was red. Sorry man, RIP. :p

chaoser

United States5541 Posts

May 21 2009 03:48 GMT

#320

gah, i thought i posted my notepad. in regards to green ties, we should try to google or perhaps image search people's profiles. Also, since one bodyguard died, the other bodyguard should not tell ANYONE.