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Hey! I had feared he might have been green, but couldn't really think about anyone else to lynch and he wasn't being useful to the town anyway, so it's pretty okay, I guess.
Seems like everyone is agreeing with teks, zeks and crate being on the medic list. vx70GTOJudgexv should probably be on the list as well, the reason he had a ? was because he hadn't been that active recently. I'm kind of second-guessing Jimtudor, though. He seems to not have contributed anything much for the town recently, so I hope he'll do so soon. I'm not too convinced that he's mafia, though, although it definitely is possible.
Since a list of only 4-5 people would probably be too small, I'm also considering putting some people on the list like iLoveKTF, since he seems to know what he's talking about although he hasn't been the most active. It seems like the list is going to be quite small, since the next possible people on the list would be someone like EsbenPM, who have been relatively active but still nothing too spectacular. I wouldn't want the list to be as short as it is, but enough people really haven't been active enough, so I guess we'll compose the list mostly using these names, pretty much.
I think it's actually a good thing that I was elected the mayor over Sheriff. Mayor role seems to benefit mafia more than the sheriff, and I can at least be sure about about our mayor, being that I'm the mayor myself. The sheriff position would also be a lot more difficult to misuse for the mafia, since any suspicious incarcerations would be leered at and would be far easier to catch than mayor's votes.
It's nice that the town has been slightly more active recently. I have a feeling that most of the mafia is still hiding under the pile of the inactives, so everyone really should be more active. I guess that's that for now. Thank you for electing me as your mayor! Now I guess we'll just have to finish the medic list and plan some things out and whatnot while waiting for the day 2 clues.
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So just to get this straight: There are no clues in the night post, correct?
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On May 20 2009 19:21 Shikyo wrote: I have a feeling that most of the mafia is still hiding under the pile of the inactives, so everyone really should be more active.
There's probably a few mafia still being somewhat inactive, but I strongly suspect most of them are active enough to avoid an inactive lynch at this point. Because staying inactive when it's obvious this town hates inactives is really not the best thing mafia could do.
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On May 20 2009 19:44 teks wrote: So just to get this straight: There are no clues in the night post, correct? If there were, they should be pointing at me since I am the mayor. But no, there are not, assuming the style hasn't drastically changed from before. .
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30 people 7 mafia 23 town/blue
3 kills a day 1 lynch
23-4*4 days=7 people=mafia win
Assuming standard play with no double lynch and vigi not acting yet and no inactiveness and no medic protect (they either go for random people), if we fuck up horribly, we lose at the earliest day 4.
We need to take down two mafia to drop the KP from 3 KP to 2KP. This means we have to kill 2 by atleast end of day 2 to be considered doing good and atleast 2 by day 3 to be considered doing ok.
2 mafia kills on Day 2 5 mafia 18-3*5 days ->lets us live till day 7 at the earliest
2 mafia kills by Day 3 5 mafia 14-3*3 -> lets us live till day 6 at the earliest
2 mafia kills by Day 4 5 mafia 10-3*2 -> Day 6
2 mafia kills by Day 5 5 mafia 6-3*1 -> Day 6
Basically this game will last to about Day 6 or shorter most likely. Thus I think the double lynch is either used early or not at all.
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Medic list looks fine to me, I'm pretty much waiting for the Sheriff to talk and the arrival of day 2.
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Yep, there's really nothing much to do now, except wait for dawn and see what happens. As for the mafia, I think the instinct, especially with new players, is to try to lay low and stay off the radar. I could be wrong, but they probably try to post just enough to not be marked as inactive.
Congratulation to the elected, hope you
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Oops, premature ejacu..posting :p continuing: ..hope you rise to the task and lead town to victory
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With the town, I fully agree with the medic list that is constructed, since they are the strongest players with regards to analysis, and the mafia will attempt to get rid of them. This list can also act as a scare tactic to the mafia, since they would not want to waste their kill powers this early in the game. Of course there are dangers regarding whether mafia within the list. With the double lynching, I fully support this if there are strong clues that leads to one of the townspeople, thus we can eliminate as many mafia as possible.
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I just hope that the medics are listening right now and hopefully they won't deviate from the plan.
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It's not possible to double lynch on day 2 -_-
Killing 2 mafia by the end of day 2 requires a vigi hit at this point. Unlikely, but possible.
If we vote for double lynch on day 2, we get it on day 3.
I don't see any point discussing it just yet since we clearly don't have much information. We definitely want to use both of them, but whether we should use the first on day 3 or on day 4 I'm not sure. Waiting longer than that seems suicidal though.
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Sorry that I haven't posted. Can anyone give me a head's up of what's going on right now? The new secret Mafia forum makes me not go there a lot. I bookmarked it though and am good to go!
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Ok, I'm feeling pretty sick so I'm going to take a nap for five hours or so. Night roles have about 8 more hours.
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On May 21 2009 03:36 clazziquai wrote: Sorry that I haven't posted. Can anyone give me a head's up of what's going on right now? The new secret Mafia forum makes me not go there a lot. I bookmarked it though and am good to go!
JeeJee is Sheriff Shikyo is mayor. We lynched therapy. He flipped green.
Right now, we're discussing medic lists and double lynches.
BTW - we can double lynch tomorrow from my understanding (Day 3) and I think we should vote to do that today (Day 2) when it starts.
From Pyrrhuloxia's original post:
Double Lynch
Usable two times per game, the town lynches two people instead of one. This means on the next day everyone gets two votes to distribute between two different people. The double lynch is activated by voting for it in addition to a player (or players if a double lynch is currently activated). The vote must exceed half the number of players voting that day. IE: If there are 40 players voting then the town needs 21 votes to use a double lynch. Double lynches may be voted on starting Day 2. Double lynches may be used on consecutive days. Players cannot place all of their votes on one player when a double lynch is in effect.
Day 3 will yield even more clues, etc etc. But because (from my understanding) we have to vote the day before to do it, then we'll have to go in semi-blind, ie, not knowing what the clues will yield the next day, anyways. I think the double lynch can be a big plus for us this early.
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I think we should vote for double lynch if we get at least one or hopefully 2 good matches with clues that would go along with relatively suspicious behavior. If we get absolutely nothing, though, we might have to save the double lynch for day 4, although that feels really late considering the size of the game.
My current version of the
Medic List:
zeks teks Jimtudor vx70GTOJudgexv crate
Besides those, it might be worth protecting some other people as well if you feel like the mafia is likely to hit them. We can protect a bit more freely tonight since vigilantes can't hit yet, use your own judgement. The people on that list are still a top priority.
As far as I know, medic protections will always go through even if they're sent in at the last minute? So there's still some time to consider.
Currently, I'm basically just waiting for day 2 to arrive, so I don't really have much more to add at this point.
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On May 21 2009 04:07 Shikyo wrote: I think we should vote for double lynch if we get at least one or hopefully 2 good matches with clues that would go along with relatively suspicious behavior. If we get absolutely nothing, though, we might have to save the double lynch for day 4, although that feels really late considering the size of the game.
Keep in mind that we have two double lynches, and can use them on consecutive days. So we can use them on day 3 and 4 (have to vote for it on day 2 and 3). I think we should do this, but we can talk more about this when day 2 arrives.
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Yeah, days 3 and 4 sound the most logical. It wouldn't be too late at that point, either.
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There seems to be a bit of confusion over the purpose of the medic list. I'll just try to clear it up, so we're all on the same page.
The medic list is not: -A list of people for medics to protect -A list of people for medics to ignore -A list of people for mafia to hit -A list of people for mafia to ignore
The medic list is: -A list of people deemed important to the town.
What this effectively means is that medics should be considering protecting them, and mafia should be considering hitting them. Obviously mafia can (and likely will) hit one or more people that are not on the list. Our medics, obviously, can also protect one or more people that are not on the list. This is where mindgames begin and I hope our medics will be able to outsmart the mafia in this respect.
Also, in case you were wondering, here's what I'm up to: spending a boatload of time on behavior analysis for mafia viii >_>. No but seriously, I'm mostly waiting for the day post at this point. I have a few things I would like to say, but writing them before daybreak serves no purpose to the town (and may unfavorably alter the mafia kill list).
I guess for now I can end with: Send in your night actions to Pyrr!
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I agree, definitely end in your night actions if you haven't already. Also, Shikyo... Why is Jimtudor on your Medic List, if I may ask?
I can definitely think of someone else who is more important. Just wondering.
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On May 21 2009 06:06 Koopie wrote: I agree, definitely end in your night actions if you haven't already. Also, Shikyo... Why is Jimtudor on your Medic List, if I may ask?
I can definitely think of someone else who is more important. Just wondering.
Care to share? As far as I saw, the only suspicion on jimtudor was he ran and there was some bandwagoning, but the same could be said for Shikyo as well in that case. Granted, he's an elected, but medic lists were popping up before the elections ended and no one was like "Why is Shikyo on the list?". jimtudor's activity really doesn't concern me personally, because there are even less active people with more pointing at them (Jayme, anyone?).
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