Naw ace,

Bone breaking is a broken skill.

If you know a role you will always kill it as mafia. (We got 3/4 dts by day 4, hittegods escaped us for a while, but we killed him the next day after we found out.) We didn't choose to bone break you over the DTs, we chose you because there was no one better.

The only logical person to bone break is Mayor because he's the only dude you can't kill right away. Unless you know so many blues that you cannot kill them all in one night then it might be useful, but the chances of knowing so many blues would be rare.

OR it could be used on vets I suppose, but last game it had to be used in advance, a whole day/night cycle. (Could not use it at night, but had to use it to night before.) Making it pointless because it pretty much declares to the town that the mafia wanted to target that person.

The role sucks

Edit: Found hitte, we suicide bombed him on day 5. I believe he was a victim of irc spying.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

November 16 2008 07:54 GMT

#144

So we'll put a limit on it instead of making it unlimited. No big deal. Without it by giving the townies vigis and mad hatters it would be hard for mafia to win.

randombum

United States2378 Posts

November 16 2008 07:55 GMT

#145

Is that a response to me? because I'm not quite sure what you mean by putting a limit.

Ver

United States2186 Posts

November 16 2008 08:00 GMT

#146

Will bone-breaking affect the other Mafia family's kill count? It might be interested if this is enabled, because now there are a lot more targets than just the mayor that a low kill count mafia cannot easily deal with at once.

And I don't know if disallowing vote checks is the best idea, at least for that reasoning. There should be other viable options than clues or very random/limited guessing with rolechecks to snag silent mafia. And furthermore, vote checks are really no worse than rolechecks; they can be faked easier because it isn't instantly given away, even though in the long term it's an assured suicide pact. I could understand that position if you included millers, which is an innocent that shows up guilty when detected, to make rolechecks not absolute (imo a good idea, just for the fact that it isn't 100% sure. We saw how dumb it was when rolechecks hit their marks repeatedly in mafia 3).

Now that I think of it, why not put in millers and make them appear as mafia on both rolechecks and votechecks? Seems pretty logical.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

November 16 2008 08:10 GMT

#147

we've got godfather role, adding in millers doesn't seem like it would help too much

and when I tweak the rules, BB would of course affect the other mafia also

t_co

United States702 Posts

November 16 2008 08:18 GMT

#148

I'm in

Ace

United States16096 Posts

November 16 2008 08:23 GMT

#149

@random: By that I mean give the BB at most like 3 chances to use their power. Currently it's unlimited as in they can use it every day/night cycle.

Ver

United States2186 Posts

November 16 2008 08:24 GMT

#150

More percentage chance. 2 godfathers out of 75~ people is great odds for the town. With 5 or so millers as well (don't know what would be a good number without knowing the other figures), it becomes something that actually must be taken into consideration. Would it hurt the game? Even as a townsperson/dt I would think it'd be more fun to actually have to reason it out and go off of behavior/voting analysis than just bandwagon along when a mafia gets instagibbed.

randombum

United States2378 Posts

November 16 2008 08:32 GMT

#151

On November 16 2008 17:23 Ace wrote:
@random: By that I mean give the BB at most like 3 chances to use their power. Currently it's unlimited as in they can use it every day/night cycle.

Oh Ok.

But IMO, you should scrap the whole role together, it doesn't do too much because usually its always better to kill than maim. Then again if the kill power is really low it could be useful towards the end. I dunno, It's just that I cant see a situation where the role is better than killing.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

November 16 2008 09:04 GMT

#152

@ver:well imagine that with 75 people only 4-5 of them are gonna be DTs. If they mistakenly out a miller who they are so sure is mafia thats gonna suck big time for the town.

@random: trust me, mafia will need it especially in this game with another rival mafia. Anything that conserves KP is gonna be good.