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On April 07 2008 23:11 MasterOfChaos wrote:
Currently we have 20/110=18% evil among us. So lynching from a group where the DT returned that about 1/5th=20% is mafia does not help. We should devise some plan to make sure the mafia cannot easily adjust the evil percentage on all votegroups to ~20%.
One way the achieve this is dictatorship of a confirmed good person. But that course takes out fun for all other townies, because they can no longer vote for themselves.
wtf...have you even posted in this thread before?
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On April 07 2008 23:22 MidnightGladius wrote:
Ace, if you have any more information from the DTs, especially any lists we can use, it'd be greatly appreciated if you would disclose them.
Like the BG list? =\
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...Caller is mafia...Why is he still alive...
So many clues...and no one votes for him...
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On April 08 2008 06:21 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2008 04:54 ~OpZ~ wrote:
...Caller is mafia...Why is he still alive...
So many clues...and no one votes for him... I am definitely not mafia whats your evidence
The fact that you are so quiet in this thread and only post when accused, yet manage to vote every vote I think is good enough. The rock throwing clue is another one. Failure of phones. And of course the lead repetitions...
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Seriously....Am I the only one noticing Caller only posts when he's accused of being Mafia?
How can he be so active, YET doesn't post at all OTHER than when he's accused? is that not suspicious in the least?
Seriously...
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On April 08 2008 22:07 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2008 14:49 ~OpZ~ wrote:On April 08 2008 06:21 Caller wrote:On April 08 2008 04:54 ~OpZ~ wrote:
...Caller is mafia...Why is he still alive...
So many clues...and no one votes for him... I am definitely not mafia whats your evidence The fact that you are so quiet in this thread and only post when accused, yet manage to vote every vote I think is good enough. The rock throwing clue is another one. Failure of phones. And of course the lead repetitions... i've already stipulated that all of those clues don't make sense especially when you take into account how there are multiple clues pointing to me so that doesn't make sense.
My post was more to gauge your reaction about how I knew you'd come out of no where. I even pm'd somebody before I did it just to show them how you would magically appear. For not being active you manage to see EVERY time I call you a mafioso....
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On April 09 2008 11:09 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2008 10:56 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:
whats this have to do with anything army = general stan?
Holy fuck...Fusions on a roll...A rick roll.
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On April 09 2008 11:41 MidnightGladius wrote:
... because it moves the plot? Bajad drovja, you're in no position to be forcing explanations for anything on anyone. The most suspicious person here is you, and trying to analyze Chuiu's thought process is absurd beyond plausibility.
Last game, he used kicks quite frequently, and the town was pointing at chicken (since chickens don't have arms, right?). I think that the personality clues give us a great way to separate what must be a clue and what might be a clue. Let's keep working on referencing vote counts and using solid evidence; deviating from the model that we've all been using so far isn't exactly helpful.
Hard to do without many detectives...I suspect you now for arguing so stupidly against fusions golden post...
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On April 10 2008 17:51 Scorch wrote:So between this list + Show Spoiler +bumatlarge - 11
MTF
d.arkive
Pangolin(2)
Plexa
fanatacist
Eti307(2)
Empyrean
JoxxOr(2)
Romance_us(2)
BloodyC0bbler(2)
Scorch(2) and this list + Show Spoiler +MTF
SpiritoftheTuna
d.arkive
Pangolin(2)
Plexa
~OpZ~
fanatacist
NatsuTerran
Eti307
Empyrean
JoxxOr
Romance_us
BloodyC0bbler he added SpiritoftheTuna, ~OpZ~ and NatsuTerran, and removed my name from the list. What was his motive to do that? Could it be to protect Tuna, OpZ and Natsu because they are fellow mafias, and avoid protecting me because I am an active townie? So many questions...
My name was on the list before @_@
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Well I apologize to Caller...As I thought he was mafia...but turned out to be a BG...
And...I'm not confirmed innocent no more...But...I am Townie...
And I'm very curious as to how people come out of hiding when they are accused of being mafia...
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On April 09 2008 11:09 fusionsdf wrote:
also
Main Entry: bay
Part of Speech: noun 1
Definition: water
Synonyms: anchorage, arm, back harbor, basin, bayou, bight, cove, estuary, fiord, firth, gulf, harbor, inlet, lagoon, loch, mouth, narrows, sound, strait
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Line 15 : [2,8]Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock.
Line 65 : [4,33]An easy kill, thought Queasy, as he pulled out a knife and stabbed Showtime! strait through the heart. But that wasn't the end of it.
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funny how chuiu keeps making that typo huh?
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Line 99 : [2,50]Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie.
Quote : We are the Swarm, and we are becoming much, much more...for the final metamorphosis has only. Just. Begun. Art.ShaLLoW
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shallow? hmm.... low? ground?
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Shallow....This is pretty damning in my opinion...I imagine Chuiu knows how to spell straight...
Edit:
Confirmation on you knowing how to spell straight Chuiu?
I still say vote for GeneralStan.
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On April 11 2008 05:49 fusionsdf wrote:
this whole number thing seems like a pretty fucking big leap to make
I believe Fusion...
I think his suspect list (edit) and clue interpretations (/edit) should be reposted...People need to see it...I will be voting for General Stan...
But Fusion why are you voting for Ace?
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On April 11 2008 08:31 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2008 08:15 ~OpZ~ wrote:On April 09 2008 11:09 fusionsdf wrote:
also
Main Entry: bay
Part of Speech: noun 1
Definition: water
Synonyms: anchorage, arm, back harbor, basin, bayou, bight, cove, estuary, fiord, firth, gulf, harbor, inlet, lagoon, loch, mouth, narrows, sound, strait
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Line 15 : [2,8]Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock.
Line 65 : [4,33]An easy kill, thought Queasy, as he pulled out a knife and stabbed Showtime! strait through the heart. But that wasn't the end of it.
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funny how chuiu keeps making that typo huh?
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Line 99 : [2,50]Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie.
Quote : We are the Swarm, and we are becoming much, much more...for the final metamorphosis has only. Just. Begun. Art.ShaLLoW
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shallow? hmm.... low? ground?
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Shallow....This is pretty damning in my opinion...I imagine Chuiu knows how to spell straight... Edit: Confirmation on you knowing how to spell straight Chuiu? I still say vote for GeneralStan. Are you kidding me? Queasy is referred to in the clue about "strait to the heart", as he's the one doing it. He's dead and thus it can't refer to me. Yogurt was just getting started? Yogurt was a townie before he died; a Mad Hatter to be precise. Three different people, one a towny, one a confirmed mafioso, both of these two already dead.Yup, damning indeed. EDIT: What's this 12 clue anyways that's causing such a fuss?
So is Mynock's death...Strait is used instead of Straight...And the thing is...Anything said during night could be a clue....
And just because a line referring to Queasy killing someone was used doesn't mean it couldn't be a clue.....
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"Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock."
He still misspelled the word straight and put strait there...
So either Chuiu doesn't know how to spell straight...OR...He purposely spelled it strait...
Maybe Chuiu can confirm that he can't spell straight correctly...
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On April 11 2008 12:20 Plexa wrote:
People, fuck the lists.
They are a great aid but we shouldn't be pushing them any further.
Rather than take a guess and go "OH EASY 1/3 CHANCE = INSTA WIN" sit back, check the players, and see what the clues spell out.
Rational arguments based on clues are hard to deny, argue or even counter.
On that note L is mafioso. Yes Cottonmouth threw 15 knives, but the important thing how the clues are worded. Why say that he threw 3 knives into each of his legs and 3 into his back? Why is it worded so? Summing the numbers stated you get 12 and given the lack of evidence pertaining to L this is a damming clue against him. This clue is very much alike to Queasy and Sidewinder and should not be lightly dismissed simply.
I dunno....Has Camlito ever posted in the thread yet comes back to defend iMderek and alventine....Honestly I suspect Alventine some what...for being like the hero of last game. A martyr. Being in a trusted position but against the town...But if thats based on that, then it could be Ace or our Pardoner, but I believe Ace to be innocent....
Oh...Clues are hard to make on people who have no information in their profile...Like Alventine...
Personally I think Chuiu should only allow people with a pic, and sig, to play in the game...
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I think the mafia member is imderek...
Hamlet quote, Sword fight in Hamlet. I don't believe he's posted much...but has been voting. The story of Hamlet revolves around change, treachery, murder.
"We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership"
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On April 11 2008 14:55 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2008 14:47 fusionsdf wrote:
Ace, what are the odds araav is mafia? very slim
What are the odds hot shot is mafia?
He only smiles in the dark...
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Why are we not going after General Stan? Fusion all but read his role pm...
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Just because names are used doesn't mean they all point to the same person...just the fact that swords were used could point to him (or others). What do you need? A "To be, or Not to be" in one of the day posts...?
As Fusion said, is it confirmed that they every clue in that persons name section points directly to the name used?
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On April 11 2008 17:15 Scorch wrote:!!! IMPORTANT !!!Show nested quote +On April 07 2008 17:04 Scorch wrote:On April 07 2008 15:16 MidnightGladius wrote:Cross-referencing some lists: + Show Spoiler +Confirmed Innocent: incorrect list forged by mafia!MTF
SpiritoftheTuna
d.arkive
Pangolin
Plexa
~OpZ~
NatsuTerran
Eti307
Empyrean
JoxxOr
Romance_us
BloodyC0bbler Ghar - 7(now 5) (1 Mafia)
useLess
aZnvaLiaNce
ShadowDrgn
Alventenie
imDerek
TranceStorm
Evilmonkey. Ace - 7(now 5) (1 Mafia)
Chezinu
Alventenie
imDerek
TranceStorm
fusionsdf
~OpZ~ <-- not necessarily innocent any more
Evilmonkey. Here, the following coincide in the two lists: imDerek
Evilmonkey
Alventenie Whereas these occur once: Chezinu
useLess
aZnvaLiaNce
fusionsdf Of these, the following can easily be count-checked: fusionsdf (only one voting for Ace)
Chezinu (only one voting for Ninja4ever)
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aZnvaLiaNce voted for TranceStorm with 13 others, so that's a dead end for now. Abstentions: imDerek
Evilmonkey
Alventenie
useLess Do with this what you will. I'd like to emphasize this once more: We have the following certain information: EITHER one out of - imDerek
- Evilmonkey
- Alventenieis mafia, OR two out of - Chezinu
- useLess
- aZnvaLiaNce
- fusionsdfare mafia. From among the second list, only one of useLess and aZnvaLiaNce can be mafia - not both -, and only one of Chezinu and fusionsdf can be mafia. At worst, we have a 1/7 chance to get a mafia from among these, a stunning 2/4 at best, so i emphatically suggest we take this path in our investigations. Keep your eyes open for evidence against any of these guys! My gut feeling says it's either useLess and fusionsdf or Evilmonkey, but it's just that: an unfounded gut feeling. It's nice of you to consider my conclusions and all, but this is not correct any more! I thought I had already made it clear that my list was based on the list of "confirmed" innocents, which turned out to be fake. We can thus ignore the list of innocents, which adds ~OpZ~ to the picture. It is therefore now: (Exactly one out of imDerek | Evilmonkey | Alventenie) OR (Exactly one out of Chezinu | fusionsdf | ~OpZ~) AND (Exactly one out of useLess | aZnvaLiaNce)
I had already said I was no longer confirmed innocent a while ago...despite being innocent...
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