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Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4939 Posts
March 18 2008 16:37 GMT
#521
Ok, I like the bodyguard plan a lot more than the detective-checking thing. I'll change my vote to Ace.
Complete the cycle!
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-18 16:40:48
March 18 2008 16:38 GMT
#522
On March 19 2008 01:11 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2008 01:06 L wrote:
Chances that Empyrean is Mafioso again are slim.

Chances that Empyrean is Mafioso again are 20/130.

Probability doesn't work the way you think it does.


2/13 is not slim? its 15% -_-; pretty low for me

Voting list:
+ Show Spoiler +

Last Romantic - 1
-------------
aZnvaLiaNce

SMB - 1
----
Last Romantic

Randombum - 9
---------
Dr. Dragoon
Alethios
g.s)naruto
sadir
fantacist
bockit
bwdero
ninja4ever
bugz|tooni|

fusionsdf - 3
--------
plexa
zbir
kau

Snubvob - 4
-------
LTT
joxxor
wurm
hollander


ghar - 8
-----
Falcynn
ace
ahrara_
pangolin
grandim
mandalor
amber[light]
rpf

Araav - 9
-----
Meta
sonuvbob
rowdierbob
klive5ive
dark.canival
naib
neax
energies
qrs

plexa - 1
-----
siefu

empyrean - 9
--------
caller
eti307
showtime!
mtf
bloodyc0bber
RtS)NightMare
Natsuterran
heros)pink
solesteer

ace -3
---
ghar
spoinka
hittiegods

47/130 votes accounted for



Right now, we should start focusing on strong candidtates: that would be:
Randombum - 9 votes
Ghar - 8 votes
Araav- 9 votes
Empyrean - 9 votes

the rest of the candidates are behind on the voting count and i dont think they have a real chance of winning the mayorship. Instead i think we should focus on what candidates we want to have as mayor/pardoner, and think wisely.

edit: updated voting count


i really think its too early to just concentracte on those 4?
not even 50% of liquidia has voted yet :D
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 18 2008 16:39 GMT
#523
I don't understand why anyone would suspect Ghar.

Even worse, BWdero why are you suspecting him just because others are?

We barely have any clues, and he hasn't done anything through his posts that can target him as Mafia.

Please people, lets not get into the practice of bandwagon suspicion so early.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4939 Posts
March 18 2008 16:41 GMT
#524
On March 19 2008 01:39 Ace wrote:
I don't understand why anyone would suspect Ghar.

Even worse, BWdero why are you suspecting him just because others are?

We barely have any clues, and he hasn't done anything through his posts that can target him as Mafia.

Please people, lets not get into the practice of bandwagon suspicion so early.


I don't think there's bandwagoning, but don't you agree that if the clues point to him at least a slight bit, then he shouldn't be elected as mayor? I know your plan forces even a mafioso mayor to work along with the town a bit - but it's ultimately still isn't a good thing, imo.

But what do I know, huh?
Complete the cycle!
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 18 2008 16:46 GMT
#525
Even if they pointed to him more than slightly, at least we know what his plan is and where his logic lies. If he ever started acting out of character or illogical, ie blatantly doing something that hinders the town we'd know for sure something is fishy about him.

With almost everyone else we have no idea what they are going to do. And when we have no idea what they can do or plan to do, they are less accountable and there is more room for "accidents" and "oops" moments.

At least with Ghar we've got a guy thats willing to explain his actions upfront, his plan, and even has ideas of what to do in case it does not work.

FAR better than what anyone else is offering right now.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 18 2008 16:50 GMT
#526
On March 19 2008 01:39 Ace wrote:
I don't understand why anyone would suspect Ghar.

Even worse, BWdero why are you suspecting him just because others are?

We barely have any clues, and he hasn't done anything through his posts that can target him as Mafia.

Please people, lets not get into the practice of bandwagon suspicion so early.



Fair enough, I suspect him because someone linked a clue to him and others seemed suspicious. I agree that this is no grounds for lynching him or even accusing him of being mafia. It is far too early for that. I simply wish to be on the safe side when it comes to electing a mayor.
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4939 Posts
March 18 2008 16:50 GMT
#527
On March 19 2008 01:46 Ace wrote:
Even if they pointed to him more than slightly, at least we know what his plan is and where his logic lies. If he ever started acting out of character or illogical, ie blatantly doing something that hinders the town we'd know for sure something is fishy about him.

With almost everyone else we have no idea what they are going to do. And when we have no idea what they can do or plan to do, they are less accountable and there is more room for "accidents" and "oops" moments.

At least with Ghar we've got a guy thats willing to explain his actions upfront, his plan, and even has ideas of what to do in case it does not work.

FAR better than what anyone else is offering right now.


Except yourself? Plus you have no clues pointing at you as of yet? But you could of course still be a mafioso, I guess there's not a clue in the Day 1 post that can be (with luck or whatever) interpreted for each Mafia member.

Well, this is what I like about this game, you can polish your thinking

This is why I changed my vote to you, even though I'm not sure if I am right...
Complete the cycle!
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
March 18 2008 16:53 GMT
#528
On March 19 2008 01:35 BWdero wrote:
Araav has a conservative double lynch platform. Something I find counterproductive. We should lynch early and often....
Any thoughts on this?

That's the main reason I voted for him (although my impression is that Ghar also wants to conserve double lynches). All things being equal, sure it's better to lynch the Mafia early on, but the most important thing is to use our lynches well, as we have a limited supply of them. That means not using double lynches before we have suspects (and if the last game shows anything, there will be suspects later on).
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 18 2008 16:54 GMT
#529
Well I'm not trying to be modest here lol.

Also, even though clues may point to a certain person as a Townie there are 2 things that should inspire your votes when lynching time arrives:

1.) Clues and discussions about them
2.) What people post and who they vote for, but more importantly what they DONT post


Number 2 is going to help you a lot more than #1 in the long run. I've already got a list of everyone who's posted in this thread, who they voted for, and comments about everyone's thinking patterns.

Once I start to see people act fishy, or incredibly stupid I'll check it against my info and see whats up and vote accordingly.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4939 Posts
March 18 2008 16:57 GMT
#530
Now I that I look back at the pattern of thinking / voting I had from an outsider view, it can come off as pretty suspicious! That's interesting, you're becoming a suspect when you're naturally trying to avoid that.

I wonder what effect this post has in that? Another double-feint by me posting? (or I'm just bored, sitting and typing here all day)
Complete the cycle!
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
March 18 2008 17:06 GMT
#531
The thing is if Ghar is mafia and is elected as mayor, the bodyguard plan would reduce the possible damage he could do to us, but he could still sacrifice himself and our double lynches go down the drain.
I'm not saying he is mafia (I even voted for him, but I'm kinda undecided), but I would rather have someone as mayor who is not supposed to be linked to any clues.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 18 2008 17:10 GMT
#532
Just as an exercise in discussion and thinking, what clue points to Ghar, and on a scale of 1-10 how would you rate it's relevance?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
March 18 2008 17:10 GMT
#533
The Bodyguard Plan is well thought out and basically impossible to thwart.

Ace, you have my vote.

Think about it people. We don't know who is mafia or not, but I see one guy who has a solid plan and is clearly dedicated to the game, and I think he should be mayor.

Ace for mayor!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Lysithea
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden204 Posts
March 18 2008 17:13 GMT
#534
So far, I like the Bodyguard plan the best and the overall the impression Ace made on me is nothing but positive. Given that we can't really draw any conclusions from one days batch of clues I'll just vote what I feel is the best. Currently it's Ace for mayor. However if it looks like Ace is getting a landslide victory I might change my vote toward a different candidate for pardoner spot, who that's gonna be I don't know.

If Empyrean is a DT he could be very valuable as pardoner but it's something about the whole thing that just feels out of place. I'm tempted to vote for him, not for mayor but as pardoner. Wish we could have more campaigning from his side. My question to all of you is: would it be beneficial enough for mafia to even attempt the stunt empyrean is employing? Would it be reasonable? I'm asking cause I'm not sure whether to vote for Empyrean or someone else in the case of me voting for a pardoner spot. Ghar (cause he acually got a plan) and randombum (he played solid the last mafia game, a game I only was a spectator in) would be my other choices.

Did I miss something crucial in my reasoning? Did I forget something along the way these last 13pages? Tell me!
"Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee." - Muhammad Ali
BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
March 18 2008 17:15 GMT
#535
On March 19 2008 01:53 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2008 01:35 BWdero wrote:
Araav has a conservative double lynch platform. Something I find counterproductive. We should lynch early and often....
Any thoughts on this?

That's the main reason I voted for him (although my impression is that Ghar also wants to conserve double lynches). All things being equal, sure it's better to lynch the Mafia early on, but the most important thing is to use our lynches well, as we have a limited supply of them. That means not using double lynches before we have suspects (and if the last game shows anything, there will be suspects later on).


True, we should save some double lynches for later. But I still feel uncomfortable with not double lynching early. It allows the town to confirm or disprove its early suspicions faster. Thus making it easier to find mafia. Assuming we don't go bandwagon on groundless accusations of course. Which I hope we shall avoid this game.
Stars fighting! Member #43 of Violet fan cafe. Fuck Kespa.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20666 Posts
March 18 2008 17:15 GMT
#536
I rather like the Bodyguard plan. It's quite a solid way to ensure mayor's legit/not legit-ness.

BTW, Mynock, SonuvBob is a blue-name Admin. He's not news. He just likes to be a confusing mofo like that.

Why'd someone vote for me <<; I'm not even campaigning.

I already voted, but in retrospect I would have changed my vote to either araav or Empyrean
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
March 18 2008 17:23 GMT
#537
The other candidates platforms in a nutshell:
Randombum - PMed everybody in the game. Shows he has time, but does he have the chops?
SoMuchBetter - PMed everybody in the game to show Randombum didn't do anything special, and he's funny. Almost worthy of a vote in entertainment value alone.
Sonuvbob - Better than fakesteve. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT VOTE FOR SONUVBOB.
Empyrean - "I'm a detective". Either foolhardy or deceptive, not my vote in either case.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
March 18 2008 17:24 GMT
#538
I don't know if you were asking me to do this exercise, Ace, but I'll just quote the "clue" and your post regarding it.

Eight people in his way, chances weren't good.


On March 18 2008 17:46 Ace wrote:
Oh and about the quote in Ghar's profile:

All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us... they can't get away this time" -- Lieutenant General Lewis B."Chesty" Puller (when surrounded by 8 enemy divisions) - United States Marine Corps


I'm not even saying this clue points to him (I didn't play last game, but read it and the only clue I would have definitely seen was the tomissthemark one), but there is a slight chance it does (I would ignore the snake btw) and since I haven't seen any possible clues that would lead to another candidate, I'll most likely change my vote to someone else (not sure yet).
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 18 2008 17:28 GMT
#539
Actually I'm hoping a lot of people will do it, because that way all of us get to see what kind of thinking patterns everyone else uses.

I posted the quote just so you guys know exactly where his quote comes from, not because I think he is Mafia at all. 8 people in his way, and 8 enemy divisions is a very far reach right now.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ziel
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Malaysia241 Posts
March 18 2008 17:29 GMT
#540
Woah! 10 pages to catch up after not reading for a day! My brain just fizzled reading all the accusations, theorycrafts and posts people have posted I'd like to reserve comments on anyone as of now (there's just too many people to guess from - so I'm starting off with people's hunches as of now, but they're just hunches, and therefore pointless (as of yet) to jump in the bandwagon).

Anyway, on to the mayoral candidates. I think Ace's bodyguard plan is real spiffy and seems failsafe. As he and alot of others have said (but alot more people seem inactive -_- ) we need a startup plan ASAP after a mayor is chosen to at least know 100% we have an efficient Townie mayor. And from then on we work the ground up on the clues.

I would have hoped there's a list of all the candidates and their reasons and plans as to why to they should be elected mayor, since looking back at how the first game went, we really need an efficient (and preferably experienced) mayor.

For now my vote goes to Ghar.

But again, whoever it is that becomes Mayor, I think if we dont have any other plan, we MUST make sure to at least carry out the Bodyguard Plan.
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