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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 22 2008 03:05 GMT
#1806
On March 22 2008 11:05 Chuiu wrote:
I just got home and I'm trying to get a hold of Dapperdan because I think he might have gotten a head start on the day post. I'll get it up as soon as possible but he's not responding right now so I don't really want to do anything until I hear from him.


its cool, no rush
i was just asking
:O
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JeeJee
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Last Edited: 2008-03-22 14:50:27
March 22 2008 14:32 GMT
#1938
a recurring statement:

day1
He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake...


day2
climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged...


unfortunately, i've gone through the profiles and can't seem to find anyone that has a face-to-face thing going on for them. i didn't look @ profile pics though, maybe someone could skim through those quick? :O

edit: ok current suspect list for this quote (thx to heros)pink contribution) in order of likelyhood (completely imho)

nemy - profile Pic, chick looking at her face in mirror
RowdierBob - profile pic, animation guys looking at each other
heros)pink - profile pic, 2 people looking in each other's eyes (trading glares)
omfghi2u2 - name
LemMe - quote, what's up
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JeeJee
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Canada5652 Posts
March 22 2008 14:47 GMT
#1940
ah yes it could be you too, good catch.
also, i recall someone quoting araav saying "i think i was protected, and the medic, can you PM me since you know im innocent" or something like that. well someone quoted him and said you should get a pm if you were protected.. my question is, assuming he was really protected, why would he ask for the medic to msg him? on the other hand, if he wanted the identity of the medic, it becomes more likely for his affiliation to be mafia
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JeeJee
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Canada5652 Posts
March 22 2008 15:07 GMT
#1946
On March 23 2008 00:04 Naib wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2008 23:47 JeeJee wrote:
ah yes it could be you too, good catch.
also, i recall someone quoting araav saying "i think i was protected, and the medic, can you PM me since you know im innocent" or something like that. well someone quoted him and said you should get a pm if you were protected.. my question is, assuming he was really protected, why would he ask for the medic to msg him? on the other hand, if he wanted the identity of the medic, it becomes more likely for his affiliation to be mafia


You misunderstood me. You don't get a notice if you're being watched, only if you are watched, targetted by an attack and saved!

Quoting the rules now to make it even more clear:

"Paramedic

(...)

A clue will not be left behind if he is saved, the town won't know who was saved, but I will let the Paramedic and the person saved know if they were targeted and saved."

I guess that also means, that for example, if 2 paramedics are protecting X, and X gets hit by 2 mafia, he won't get a notice "Hey you were hit by 2 mafia, but 2 medics saved your ass" but only "you were hit and saved". Both medics would get a PM like this in this case: "X, that you protected, was hit, but he's still alive." This way, both medics would know that the person they watched for is saved, but they wouldn't know that more than 1 medic was watching him, nor they would know if there were more than 1 mafia hits.

That's my interpretation, and I'm fairly sure it's correct.

If Chuiu or anyone more experienced finds a flaw in my explanation, feel free to point it out.



.....yeeeees
and? how does this justify araav wanting to know the identity of the medic
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 22 2008 15:39 GMT
#1952
On March 23 2008 00:38 0cz3c wrote:
I don't know about the telephone clue linking to Caller.


Chuiu made that same "clue" last mafia game and it linked to no one -- it was just part of the plot. Not being in the game last game, I suspected it to be linking to Caller as well, which it did not. It could still point to him, I'm just saying that it didn't last game and it's basically a clone of what was said last game as well. It might just be Chuiu's writing style/technique/preferences.


it actually linked to fen and his birthday
as far as i understand, the only recurring thing from last game that didn't point to anyone was people kicking stuff, so i wouldn't look too deep into any of those clues. chuiu himself said something along those lines "i like people kicking shit. it wasn't a clue that pointed to anyone else though"
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 23 2008 20:47 GMT
#2172
On March 24 2008 05:46 Ace wrote:
ok guys here's the situation.

I'm trying to confirm one of my DTs. So I asked the person to check out another person who's role I obviously already know.

All my other DTs passed this test, so the last DT has to do this also.

That person hasn't responded so I'm very close to lynching them because I think they can't figure out what it is (obviously because they aren't a DT).


have you went through the timestamps of his posts in this thread to confirm he's usually online at this time? if so, that's pretty damning evidence
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 23 2008 20:52 GMT
#2180
On March 24 2008 05:49 Ace wrote:
No I didn't even have to check if the person posted in this thread or not.

Everything will be clear soon.



well it's not like it takes any longer than a few minutes ...
it would be pretty stupid to be waiting on a reply from someone who's sleeping from say 2;00KST to 10;00KST
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 23 2008 20:55 GMT
#2182
On March 24 2008 05:53 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2008 05:52 JeeJee wrote:
On March 24 2008 05:49 Ace wrote:
No I didn't even have to check if the person posted in this thread or not.

Everything will be clear soon.



well it's not like it takes any longer than a few minutes ...
it would be pretty stupid to be waiting on a reply from someone who's sleeping from say 2;00KST to 10;00KST


Thats the thing, they can't still be sleeping.

I sent them something so long ago I think they are laying low.


well as long as you feel the time is reasonable enough -- keep in mind it is easter weekend
anyway, make a statement or something at the latest by 10:00KST or so, that'll give us like ~3 hours to get the votes in; should be fine
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 23 2008 21:02 GMT
#2188
On March 24 2008 05:56 Showtime! wrote:JeeJee, no.


no what? it's statements like these that make no sense at all. you're making me waste a post and clutter up the thread. jeez
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 23 2008 22:49 GMT
#2255
On March 24 2008 06:14 Showtime! wrote:
Ace it isn't only that but if you look at their timezone

I know it's 'Easter Sunday' but me thinks they are lurking!!

JeeJee, no. In some cases that is all that needs to be said.

Minerals it is possible because not everyone has fessed up yet or so we're led to believe.


nope that's wrong.
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 24 2008 01:20 GMT
#2306
On March 24 2008 10:17 Energies wrote:
I'm curious to know, if Mafia vote in the vote thread, are their votes counted, or how does that aspect work?

The whole town, including the mafia, will meet and discuss this turn of events and everyone will vote for who they want lynched that day.


the original post really isn't there for show you know

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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 24 2008 01:33 GMT
#2314
On March 24 2008 10:23 Energies wrote:
It doesn't say if their vote is counted though.

Regardless, that sucks they get even more ways to kill, but I guess thats why we have a pardoner. Is anyone monitoring the votes by the way? I have only been enlightened to this fact so I haven't been paying too much attention to any abstain or obscure votes.


.. if they can vote it would be counted. otherwise it would be a little stupid since anyone can just go "oh hey this person said he voted for X but he's not on the list"
aaaaaand there's a reason detectives have an ability to see how many mafia voted for a person to get lynched
=/
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 25 2008 22:46 GMT
#2795
On March 26 2008 07:01 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2008 05:39 Scorch wrote:
Ace himself said that he doesn't care about clues, but behaviour exclusively
This way inactive Mafia members are just as much as a burden to them. We've got a few inactive townies, but I guess having about only ~20 or less players missing isn't a big deal right?

/sarcasm


it's actually not, assuming chuiu/dapperdan follows through with his promise and gets rid of them, as well as passing on their roles before night3 (after getting the waitlisted guys in, obviously). and maybe ban them from next game (if there is one) as well (just a 1-game ban, don't go nuts here)

as for the 3 spammers in this thread (aznval, showtime, shallow), stfu. a lot of people don't want to read that shit.

annnnnnnd finally, for the person who suggested we only investigate one half of the groups (since the other could be deduced from the total) -- dont. this is good assuming everyone votes, and the people who didn't previously vote also dont' vote. if this could be guaranteed, there would be a better course of action anyway (virtual splits), but since it's not a guarantee at all, both sides must still be investigated.

the good thing about doing this, is that it doesn't matter whether you want to follow along with the plan or not, because you're still following along with it. we know what the total mafia #s have to add up to, and if the people who were told to vote for someone choose to abstain, or in fact choose to vote for someone else entirely, they will affect the total, and in fact, reveal their alignment. obv there's a loophole to this (at least it looks like it - thankfully, there's a somewhat obvious prevention mechanism as well)
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 25 2008 23:45 GMT
#2811
whoops, sorry bout that ace. still, i can't imagine mafia didn't think of that, they'd have to be pretty retarded, and if that's the case, saying that won't help them anyway.
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 26 2008 03:32 GMT
#2844
On March 26 2008 12:24 Masamune wrote:
I kept up with this thread after it reached 1000 posts but now.....*sigh*


dont worry most of it is spam from people who keep telling others to stop spamming. ahh the irony.

anyway, i dont think today's 48hr thing is going to be held up, haven't heard a word from chuiu, and day posts usually take a while to write.. it's a shame -- i'm not even sure where dapperdan is so i don't think we have a backup either? hmm
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 26 2008 23:49 GMT
#2931
On March 27 2008 08:17 Chuiu wrote:
Detectives cannot find out how many mafia abstain from voting because they're not actually voting for a person. The ability requires that they vote for a person:

Show nested quote +
you may ask me how many mafia voted to lynch a specific person


About the detective role, if he asks me what the role of a player is he is told what the role of the player is. For a list of roles in the game please refer to the first post under roles, theres 13 of them in total. Theres nothing unclear about this.

Also, good luck to Chiui, whoever that is, I know what you're going through!


chuiu! are you planning on kicking the people who haven't voted in day2 and day1? as in, no more chances, bye bye to them, get people from waiting list in?
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 27 2008 00:58 GMT
#2936
On March 27 2008 09:22 Chuiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2008 08:49 JeeJee wrote:
On March 27 2008 08:17 Chuiu wrote:
Detectives cannot find out how many mafia abstain from voting because they're not actually voting for a person. The ability requires that they vote for a person:

you may ask me how many mafia voted to lynch a specific person


About the detective role, if he asks me what the role of a player is he is told what the role of the player is. For a list of roles in the game please refer to the first post under roles, theres 13 of them in total. Theres nothing unclear about this.

Also, good luck to Chiui, whoever that is, I know what you're going through!


chuiu! are you planning on kicking the people who haven't voted in day2 and day1? as in, no more chances, bye bye to them, get people from waiting list in?

Well dapperdan seems to be ignoring me (probably too lazy to help or something) and I haven't had a chance to get around to that so we'll see how much time I get today after I write up the day post.

Edit: Oh yeah the pain stopped again sometime late tuesday. I guess my kidney stone just wanted to randomly remind me it still exists since haven't had a chance to get a follow up cat scan done. But I'm feeling good for the time being ... but I'm probably going to need an operation or something to get this thing out of me since its been like three weeks now.


it's fine, i wouldn't want to seem like im rushing you because i'm really not. i'd rather wait another 24hr & have the people kicked out, although i suppose you can do that after day breaks as well. no hurry in any case, you've got slightly more important things on your plate
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 27 2008 02:34 GMT
#2942
anyone else F5'ing this like mad? xD
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 27 2008 02:36 GMT
#2948
fuckers.
time to read the rest of the post
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-27 02:47:16
March 27 2008 02:38 GMT
#2950
On March 27 2008 11:37 Chezinu wrote:
I wonder what blues those, update first page quickly!


looks like a medic, detective, and something else. what the fuck mafia's pretty good at hitting blues. anyway last post..


edit: i always seem to put up a good fight tho. cheers chuiu! xD
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