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qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
April 04 2008 14:36 GMT
#3701
Araav, I still don't understand what you say happened with the "channel". Let me summarize your so-called "answer to the accusations":

1) Please don't call me bad names.
2) Don't believe everything everyone says.
3)
Now, for stupid moves. Throwing in this idea was really stupid of Showtime (or Ace, if he stands after this).
if Showtime's a townie:
come on - mafia already knows this is false, so whom you are fucking with - with townies?...Do you think Ace is stupid to collect the "blues" together? Even if there was 1% chance of haveing a fake blue there that must not happned.

I'm not sure what you meant by this. It sounds like you're saying that the channel didn't exist. Or are you saying that it existed but there were no blues there? In any case, how would Mafia know this is false any more than townies?
4) Showtime may be a Mafia member.

Three irrelevant points and one that sort of addresses the issue, but is too vague to understand. Can you just say plainly what you mean? Was there a channel at all? Were you in it? If Showtime! made the whole thing up, say so. If that's not what you meant, say so.

Meanwhile, you continue to make illogical insinuations that Ace is Mafia, even though ALL of the detectives were supposed to investigate him, and NONE of them said a word. You seem to be a smart guy: this lapse in logic is...odd.

All this adds up to: I vote for araav until he defends himself more clearly.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 04 2008 17:03 GMT
#3702
I'll post just about everything I can later. I've been hella busy.

New104 died because of an incident with mandalor, but they couldn't kill him before. The lag between nights and the fact that some people never were cooperating fucked up a lot of protections for Night 3.

dinmsab had verified Emp, who had verified me.

New104 was never verified but we beleived he was a DT because of a few things.

Showtime and Emp were acting suspicious all the time to draw attention away from other targets, and make the Mafia want to keep them alive.

They failed to kill both of them before. They did pretty damn well and as you can see it doesn't matter if too many blues die as long as they do what's needed at the right times.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
April 04 2008 18:33 GMT
#3703
On April 05 2008 02:03 Ace wrote:
Showtime and Emp were acting suspicious all the time to...make the Mafia want to keep them alive.

They failed to kill both of them before. They did pretty damn well.
If the Mafia tried to kill them before, then the Mafia didn't want to keep them alive, wouldn't you say? So they didn't do well at the stated goal of making the Mafia want to keep them alive. Not that it really matters...

Ace, what's the deal with araav, and this whole chatroom thing?
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 04 2008 18:40 GMT
#3704
We still aren't sure.

When I say tried to keep them alive, I should really have said "barely put effort into killing them" since afaik Showtime! was only hit once before, and I don't think Emp ever got hit.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
April 04 2008 18:47 GMT
#3705
Ace, you mentioned that the Detective that was supposed to check Ghar didn't report in. Since they didn't use their ability on Ghar, did they get a chance to check the vote counts? Do you have any more numbers that you can share with use that might help us with this lynch?
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 04 2008 18:52 GMT
#3706
hmm ok. Chew on this for a while:

Empyrean was roleblocked yesterday.
I'm roleblocked today.

From: New104
Subject: Re: Detective Ability
Date: 4/2/08 03:13
1.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
How many mafia voted for Ace on Day 3?

old message:

MTF
SpiritoftheTuna
d.arkive
Pangolin(2)
Plexa
~OpZ~
NatsuTerran
Eti307
Empyrean
JoxxOr
Romance_us
BloodyC0bbler

are all confirmed innocent




Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 04 2008 18:53 GMT
#3707
Day 3 vote count for Ace:

Ace - 7
Chezinu
Alventenie
imDerek
TranceStorm
fusionsdf
~OpZ~(2)
Evilmonkey.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
April 04 2008 18:54 GMT
#3708
I'm not sure how to read that. Is the bottom correct where they are all confirmed innocent or is the top correct and 1 of them is mafia?
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 04 2008 18:56 GMT
#3709
The first thing is the PM from New104, he vote checked and found 1 Mafia in the list. The list is:

Ace - 7
Chezinu
Alventenie
imDerek
TranceStorm
fusionsdf
~OpZ~(2)
Evilmonkey.


I also got another set of info confirming that these people are all innocent:

MTF
SpiritoftheTuna
d.arkive
Pangolin(2)
Plexa
~OpZ~
NatsuTerran
Eti307
Empyrean
JoxxOr
Romance_us
BloodyC0bbler

Which shortens our list down to this:

Ace - 7(6)
Chezinu
Alventenie
imDerek
TranceStorm
fusionsdf
~OpZ~(2) <--innocent
Evilmonkey.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-04 19:00:33
April 04 2008 18:56 GMT
#3710
Ahh. 2 different subjects. So the top list is innocent and 1 from your second post is a Mafia. 1/7 Hrm..

Edit: Ok, 1/6. Even better. On a note, you just cleared Plexa's biggest suspect. People voting for d.arkive should probably change their votes.

Edit 2: I'm crunching some numbers. I want to try to figure out the current percentage of Mafia to Townies. I'm not sure how good the 1/6 ratio is. On the plus side, focusing on this group will confirm 5 townies if we can find the mafia.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 04 2008 19:01 GMT
#3711
well, we also have a problem with useless being MIA.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
April 04 2008 19:04 GMT
#3712
(Mafia) / (Total Townies) = (18) / (91 + 18) = 16.5% Mafia. But, there are some confirmed townies.

Ace + All the living bodyguards are confirmed. That 6 total. You probably know of more, but that's all I've got to work with. It becomes 18/103 = 17.4%

1/6 = 16.7%

It seems pretty close to me to make focusing on these 6 worthwhile with the added bonus of increasing confirmed townies. I'll take a look at the clues, but I've been terrible so far.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 04 2008 19:06 GMT
#3713
yea focus on those "6". For now I think 2 out of those 6 are innocent also, which really means 1 in 4.

I'm so busy atm that I cant put all the data and PMs together that I have.

The next step, along with these 6 is to check out the people who have voted and not posted a lot.

Chuiu hasn't kicked out any inactives as far as I know so the town is much farther away from where we need to be.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
April 04 2008 19:06 GMT
#3714
On April 05 2008 04:01 Ace wrote:
well, we also have a problem with useless being MIA.


I don't understand this one. Was he supposed to vote for you as per your previous plan? I checked people that didn't follow the suspect 1/suspect 2 voting plan but I didn't check the Ace/Randombum plan.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 04 2008 19:08 GMT
#3715
useless should have voted for randombum.

One of the other Mafia could have potentially hopped on the bandwagon of my vote to "save" useless, but I doubt it. It's just something I'm pointing out.

So for now we have to assume aznvaliance and useless are both innocent.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
April 04 2008 19:09 GMT
#3716
On April 05 2008 04:06 Ace wrote:
yea focus on those "6". For now I think 2 out of those 6 are innocent also, which really means 1 in 4.

I'm so busy atm that I cant put all the data and PMs together that I have.

The next step, along with these 6 is to check out the people who have voted and not posted a lot.

Chuiu hasn't kicked out any inactives as far as I know so the town is much farther away from where we need to be.


1/4 would be great. If they aren't confirmed innocent you probably shouldn't release the names. There isn't much workload between checking 4 and 6 and I believe we should stick to the numbers without confirmation.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 04 2008 19:11 GMT
#3717
yea I wont release those names yet.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
April 04 2008 19:24 GMT
#3718
Chezinu
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Alventenie
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imDerek
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This realm dismantled was
Of Jove himself; and now reigns here
A very, very--pajock."
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TranceStorm
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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 04 2008 19:29 GMT
#3719
hmmm...

if d.arkive and MTF are innocent, that greatly shortens our suspect list. who would be next in the ranking? suresh0t? i'm really not convinced of his guilt, or anyone else's, for that matter.

this sucks. i'm kinda clueless at the moment. seems we got our profiling wrong

as for these 1/6 guys, i don't see much clue evidence against any of them, which doesn't make our task easier either.
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
April 04 2008 19:33 GMT
#3720
Does anyone know what that ASCII-ish type art in fusion's profile is? It almost looks like that guy from 300.
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