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Ok, Im gonna list some of the similar clues from previous nights, see if we can somehow link them up:
"He started walking forward to do just that when his opponent violently kicked him in the chest sending him rolling down the stairs," - someone really likes kicking people in the chest (this is the 3rd night in a row someone has done that)
"Yogurt made his way to one of the exits at the bottom of the theater where two men stood in his way, one dressed strangely and the other with purpose in his eyes." - Dressed strangely, while not a repeat of any clues, it could also be a link to the bow from the beginning night.
"He spun around to retreat but he was knocked down and felt the cold piercing stab of a needle in his back." - Another needle, someone likes to play with poisons
"He was almost at the other bottom exit when he was met by a very unusual sight. A man with a knife smiling back at him. He gleefully stabbed Wizard in the stomach and left him to die as he backed up to the door to guard it once more." - Someone who wants to kill his opponents quickly, doesn't give them time to react/fight back?
"Behind him Seraphim came to a sudden stop after seeing this and turned quickly around to get away but someone was there to stop him. Seraphim jumped to the left, to the right, and back trying everything he could to get past this man but he met every move with speed and grace." - this mafia seems dexterous, possibly an athlete or person's name that refers to quick speeds
"When finally Seraphim decided violence would be the best bet here, and proceeded to strike the man only to have his blow countered viciously in the side of his chest with a small bat. The blow was enough to cause massive internal bleeding and if the man hadn't followed up with a brutal blow to the head Seraphim would have died anyway." - this person also doesn't fight fair lol.
"The man reached down and twisted Hittegods neck, killing him instantly." - Another neck breaking, someone is a strong guy out there :x
" "Its sad when a noble heart loses strength" said the mafia as he stabbed Puosu in the heart." - hmm, possibly looking down upon an elder, or someone of respected status, possibly linked to the mafia who scolded the others in the beginning night.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
NO, FUCK YOU SHALLOW[BAY]
NOW GET OUT OF THIS THREAD OR I BAN YOUR ASS
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No worries L2W, over time your shattered heart will heal.
I'm not going to be posting, just watching and waiting as we slowly take over 
ShaLLoW[baY] out.
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Now that shallow is a confirmed mafia. It is likely (perhaps) that anybody who has defended him is mafia also. Its something to look at. Although nobody wants to read 79 pages of thread so this could perhaps be a team thing for the town to do.
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Chuiu, can you sign me up for next round please? 
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Alright, as much as I feel very suspicious about myself, I have suspicions about two very prominent people in this case: Live2Win and Tracil.
This is a message i sent to Tracil regarding my suspicions of Live2Win.
+ Show Spoiler +I have no idea if u are townie or mafiaso, but here’s some concerns I have about live2win:
Live2win has been mainly talking about how Dr. Dragoon is guilty and shallow is innocent. He’s been saying this over and over again despite certain clues that have pointed at other players that could be mafiaso.
“However this puts me in a difficult position. The fact that the mafia didn't even attempt to kill me, means a few things: They want the towns people to suspect me and lynch me, or they want me to think I'm wrong and change my thoughts.... OR I am wrong and see no threat in me.
I need time to think this through”
-Doesn’t mention last option-is mafiaso?
"how do you know 2 of the mafia went after Mahnini? That should be confidential information that should kept only to the mafia and Chuiu/DapperDan!"
-for an intelligent player this should have been obvious in the clues.
"The other man grabbed a small needle out of his coat pocket and slowly injected the strange serum into Mahnini. "This may take a couple seconds before it begins working ... ah there we go". Mahnini began having violent seizures and thrusting left and right in the chair. He quickly gained control of himself, however, and began to free himself from the grasp of the other mafia, but no sooner had Mahnini freed his hand did he die to the snapping of his neck. "Shame, we'll have to find another it seems" said the other man as they returned home, their quota filled for the night."
-Stim pack? Say yes to stims?
"The powers overseeing did not have first-rate plans for the residents of Krohms house on this night"
-moderator?
"The games the mafia likes to play do not parallel that of the normal towny. Life has no place in their games, only the likes of death and pain."
Games of life…they maybe play to win? Live2win?
Also, in a pm that was sent, I picked 12 random ppl + dragoon + shallow. Instead of asking me why I picked so and so, he kept trying to persuade me that shallow was innocent.
Don’t reveal my name please.
Fyi if you hide this and have me killed i.e. if u are mafia, I have sent this to some other people already.
Here's a copy of the PM list that I had.
+ Show Spoiler +anything is possible.
It isn't good to base your assumptions on what's possible. It's better to think upon what's not likely, what doesn't make sense. Yes it's possible they are both mafias. It's more likely, however, that only of them are mafias. You could be right though.
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Original Message:
the clues in the beginning of the game hinted that shallow may have been a mafiaso. as such, isn't is somewhat possible that they realized this and decided to sacrifice one of their expendable members to soak up attention and preserve one of their more experienced ones?
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Original Message:
that's possible, but Dr.Dragoon's actions were far too erratic. His initial reaction was sort of an "i give up" stance. Then he quickly changed his attitude and tried very hard to clear his name. If this was planned from the beginning they would have had a planned reaction, an "act" that is suppose to fool the public.
They also have no motive. Neither were in any danger of being hunted nor lynched. It would make sense if one of them or both of them were being suspected as mafia, and pulled the stunt to save one... but that wasn't the case. Why pull a stunt that would guarantee one of them to be lynched when neither were in any danger to begin with?
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Original Message:
couldn't they be on the same side though? one may have sacrificed themselves to ensure the safety of the other.
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Original Message:
yes, some are on my list.
Although I'd like to point out that Shallow[bay] and and Dr.Dragoon shouldn't be together. If the whole "I'm mafia" PM screenshot ordeal had anything to prove, it's that Shallow[bay] and dr.dragoon are not on the same side. Since I think dragoon is mafia, that would mean shallow is innocent.
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Original Message:
i have no idea what your allegiance is, and vice versa, but i was wondering if you have any of these people on your list:
. ShaLLoW[baY]
2. SoMuchBetter
3. Eti307
4. HotZhot
5. NotSorry
13. Dr.Dragoon
31. Drowsy
39. chicken`
70. to miss the mark
50. nemY
66. Folca
17. NeoIllusions
52. Valentine
53. SiZ.FaNtAsY
As if that wasn't bad enough, there was also the new clue, involving, again, Mr. Serum guy... or a stim pack? 1st case, guy dies from spasming. Sign of too many neurotransmitters/stimulation. 2nd case, guy dies from lack of oxygen, i.e. TOO much activity, i.e. too much stimulation.
Now, you may ask why I am also suspicious of Tracil.
Tracil is suspicious because Live2Win has been defending him suddenly after intially being suspicious of him. This came out of nowhere. Also, i sent the message to Tracil for a reason: to see if it may arouse a reaction. It didn't. He didn't even acknowledge me or respond to me, which is odd, because Tracil seems the type to want to debate people.
The only reason so far that Tracil doesn't get my vote is the lack of clues. You can look at the evidence for yourselves, but...
I cast my vote for Live2Win.
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its funny, if a paramedic ever joined forces with a detective they would be unstoppable...well sort of.
but hey, at least you guys didnt lose any bodyguards this time!
<not playing>
sign me up for next round too
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As for the kicking incident:
What kind of thing can't punch people? A Chicken.
edit: i would recommend that fakesteve do a double lynching today. Blues are dropping like flies and bodyguards may come next.
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God I wish I was playing
I have so much I want to say
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On February 19 2008 14:04 fusionsdf wrote:
God I wish I was playing
I have so much I want to say
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Doh my attempt at being low ground so nobody notices me has failed T~T
gl hf to townies, you can do it!
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Caller, your theory is great and all, but to my recollection didn't live2win say "say yes to stims" AFTER the first syringe clue?
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On February 19 2008 14:04 fusionsdf wrote:
God I wish I was'nt digging a bullet out of my chest.
I have so much I want to say
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On February 19 2008 14:06 randombum wrote:
Caller, your theory is great and all, but to my recollection didn't live2win say "say yes to stims" AFTER the first syringe clue?
he did? O.O
shit there goes my theory
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On February 19 2008 14:02 Caller wrote:
As for the kicking incident:
What kind of thing can't punch people? A Chicken.
edit: i would recommend that fakesteve do a double lynching today. Blues are dropping like flies and bodyguards may come next.
i agree with the chicken part, he randomly accused me, even though their is no evidence against me, or that even points to me. From my part that seems like he is just picking someone he knows that isn't mafia, because he knows them all. We can already see that he has clues that are loosely pointed at him.
I encourage another double lynch as well, and my first vote goes to Live2win, because of the multitude of the other reasons stated by caller.
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On February 19 2008 14:06 randombum wrote:
Caller, your theory is great and all, but to my recollection didn't live2win say "say yes to stims" AFTER the first syringe clue?
not sure, but even still, its his quote now, and the clue applies to it vaguely, but he has more evidence than just that one to point to live2win.
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On February 19 2008 14:10 Alventenie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2008 14:06 randombum wrote:
Caller, your theory is great and all, but to my recollection didn't live2win say "say yes to stims" AFTER the first syringe clue? not sure, but even still, its his quote now, and the clue applies to it vaguely, but he has more evidence than just that one to point to live2win.
actually, i dont think so
i looked at past posts and he never said something about that as a joke. in fact, the first mention of the word "stims" was by me just a few minutes ago
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go to live2win's profile, in his quote it says "yes to stims"
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On February 19 2008 14:14 Alventenie wrote:
go to live2win's profile, in his quote it says "yes to stims"
he also has a profile of people on his suspect list, and i'm numero dos.
Interesting.
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