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Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-19 05:19:07
February 19 2008 05:16 GMT
#1581
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=527365
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
February 19 2008 05:17 GMT
#1582
ahh Every body else is right, also Pusou :"On February 16 2008 20:10 So no fek wrote:
Just making a wild guess here, and keeping a little in the StarCraft theme we obviously have here at TL.Net..... Maybe the strange serum was the mafia trying out their new stim packs. :o

SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!
Sounds familiar.."

He pointed that out on page 57ish and he's dead now.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
February 19 2008 05:18 GMT
#1583
Lol alventenie, I like how all your desktop icons are of star craft, and that your running war 3.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
February 19 2008 05:19 GMT
#1584
im playing dota right now, or about to =P
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 19 2008 05:20 GMT
#1585
On February 19 2008 14:18 randombum wrote:
Lol alventenie, I like how all your desktop icons are of star craft, and that your running war 3.


duh, DotA DotA DotA :D

Pusou and So No Fek were the ones who pointed it out. They're both dead. Hmm...
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
February 19 2008 05:36 GMT
#1586
my "say yes to stim kids" quote was there since I joined TL.net... so atleast 4 years.

"-Doesn’t mention last option-is mafiaso?"
I guess you could think that. My defense is that I just didn't consider that an option. But that's just saying "I'm not mafia", which is something I can't prove until I'm dead.

"-for an intelligent player this should have been obvious in the clues."
If I was mafia I wouldn't have made this mistake at all. Actually I'm still puzzled at this question. There were 14 mafias, and 7 kills per night. Only 6 died. What if all 14 mafias voted someone different? Who dies then? Or what if 6 were voted by 2 mafias, and the other 2 mafias each voted somone separate, making it a total of 8 individuals (6 with two votes, 2 with 1 vote).... which one of the two would die? And thus this leads me to think, how do you know how many mafia votes a certain victim got?

"-Stim pack? Say yes to stims?"
This could point to me, I admit... although it can point to others. I'll have to do some digging to clear my name. T_T

"Games of life…they maybe play to win? Live2win?"
I think this is over-reaching. It's a vague clue that doesn't exactly point in a direction. Like House likes to say, "You see it because you're looking for it".


Also, in our conversation, I made it clear that "Both could not be innocent". I also said it is highly unlikely that both were mafia, since it guarantees atleast one of them to be dead. So my conclusion was: If one of them is mafia, then the other is innocent.

I wasn't convinced that "ShaLLoW[baY] was innocent".... rather, I was convinced that Dr.Dragoon was guilty. Tracil was convinced as well, and a few others were who I did not think were suspicious. As soon as Dr.Dragoon was found to be innocent, it was obvious that ShaLLoW[baY] was mafia. You might wonder why I didn't pounce on it right away then, but I was away this weekend and didn't ahve much time to spend on TLnet.... the little time I had on here I spent on looking up GSI results and Survivor/OSC results. (A poor defense I know, but it's the truth).

To proove that I was not defending ShaLLoW[baY], but rather accusing Dr.Dragoon, here's a quote I said way back regarding Day 1 clues.

On February 12 2008 08:38 Live2Win wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2008 08:34 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On February 12 2008 07:58 Live2Win wrote:
"That was low, even for you" said another mafia. "Who cares where I stab him, all is fair" he protested,

My suspicion goes to NotSorry, or ShaLLoW[baY]


I've been sitting here for 5 minutes trying to figure out how you've linked that clue with me, it doesn't make any sense :p

low blow = you gotta be shallow to make a low-blow. :p A bit stretched, just a guess.


Here's my semi-accusation of Shallow[bay]. I dismissed this clue and went after Dr.Dragoon rather than Shallow[bay], simply because clues brought on by real reactions are much more reliable than clues created to be found.

Lastly, about my position on Tracil. I tried to make this clear when I first posted about him, but I knew it wasn't clear enough. I was never convinced that Tracil was mafia, or never against him exactly. I was simply cautious of him.

Here's a reply I posted in regarding to Tracil.... page 18, post 351
"I am not trying to expose you. I simply saw that the community was reacting very positively to your post, and wanted to simply say "hey, slow down a moment... you could be heading straight for a trap".

I am very tempted to trust you as well, but the fact remains true that you know what you're doing. It's only been day 1, the evidence is far too short to make any accusations on my part to catagorize you as mafia or townie. I am simply being cautious, and voicing my opinion. "


At this point I am still cautious of Tracil, but I'm also less guarded towards him.
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
February 19 2008 05:43 GMT
#1587
On February 19 2008 14:06 randombum wrote:
Caller, your theory is great and all, but to my recollection didn't live2win say "say yes to stims" AFTER the first syringe clue?



actually, i remember lolling a long time ago to a sig that said say "say yes to stim kids!"


although i'm not sure if it was L2W's sig.


but i don't know L2W. i trusted you before, but i'm not so sure anymore. Plus, i'm starting to think that you weren't the person that got saved in the 1st night.


but i'll give you leeway and refrain from voting for now.

On a side-note:


i'm kinda scared. xD
betaben was killed in the 1st night and his number was 35.
seraphim was killed in the 2nd night and his number was 34.
i'm number 33. xD

coincidence? or are the mafia just following a pattern.
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
February 19 2008 05:43 GMT
#1588
Regarding my list of suspects:

That was created at the beginning of the game.... on Day 1 and changed on the early parts of Day 2.

Half of those on my list were directed BASED on the fact that Dr.Dragoon was guilty. Since it turns out he's not, the list needs to be changed. Can't really remember which ones were based on that theory, so I have to look back a bit (FakeSteve is there for another reason).

I can tell you caller, that the reason you were high up there is because you were one of the first to come to Dr.Dragoon's aid... and without much proof. It was early in the game, people were posting lightly without thinking of the concequences (if you notice people are careful to post now). As I mentioned before, since I considered DD guilty, I assumed the people who flew to his aid were his fellow mafias. Thus I made a list of those "suspected mafias". Since that theory turned out horribly wrong, (DAMN YOU SHALLOW[BAY]) I have to rearrange my list.
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
February 19 2008 05:58 GMT
#1589
Caller, because he is gay and has me listed as a possible suspect
L2W, because of the band wagon effect

Die suckas!
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 19 2008 06:04 GMT
#1590
I got ownt

Remember the dead and fight for the living...
靈魂交響曲
imDerek
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1944 Posts
February 19 2008 06:09 GMT
#1591
hero vigilante
Least favorite progamers: Leta, Zero, Mind, Shine, free, really <-- newly added
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-19 06:51:09
February 19 2008 06:42 GMT
#1592
Oh and Chuiu, can you sign me up for next round please?
But whatever you do, please don't put me as a plain townie, again...
靈魂交響曲
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
February 19 2008 07:06 GMT
#1593
Poo, they killed me before I got my second killed off.
#1 Shuttle fan - TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #36 BW4lyfe
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
February 19 2008 07:25 GMT
#1594
On February 12 2008 08:49 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2008 08:38 Live2Win wrote:
On February 12 2008 08:34 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On February 12 2008 07:58 Live2Win wrote:
"That was low, even for you" said another mafia. "Who cares where I stab him, all is fair" he protested,

My suspicion goes to NotSorry, or ShaLLoW[baY]


I've been sitting here for 5 minutes trying to figure out how you've linked that clue with me, it doesn't make any sense :p

low blow = you gotta be shallow to make a low-blow. :p A bit stretched, just a guess.

DON'T RISK IT, LYNCH SHALLOW TOO! If the word "doctor" ever makes it to the story, I am soooo screwed.


ahahahaha
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
February 19 2008 07:39 GMT
#1595
SHALLOW IS A MAFIA? I WONDER WHO CALLED IT AFTER HIS UBER FAKED SCREENSHOT OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG????

/self high-five
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
February 19 2008 07:41 GMT
#1596
I vote SoMuchBetter to by lynched.

He campaigned hard for mayor, but as soon as he didn't win, he just vanished. Is he laying low because he's a mafioso, and he doesn't want to draw attention to himself? I think so.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4642 Posts
February 19 2008 07:48 GMT
#1597
Oh man, I knew I shouldn't have gone out tonight. On top of that the movie was crap and Puosu spilled my popcorn =(
This neo violence, pure self defiance
ulszz
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Jamaica1787 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-19 08:10:01
February 19 2008 08:08 GMT
#1598
OK, I just went through every post that ShaLLoW[baY] has made. Here are some stats:

Real Accusations from ShaLLoW[baY]: By this I mean serious accusations with evidence to back them up.
Dr.Dragoon (Dead)
ilovezil
ieatkids
imderek
Aepplet
Falcynn
JeeJee
ZaplinG
NotSorry

Playful Accusations from ShaLLoW[baY]: By this I mean accusations that were tossed around in a playful manner but I still think they should be taken into consideration.
Wurm
GeneralStan (Not in Game)
Scooter
SoMuchBetter
Tracil
So no Fek (Dead)
demonic_phate

People who accused ShaLLoW[baY]:
NotSorry
Wurm
CDRDude
Althios (Dead)
Mahnini (Dead)
Yogurt (Dead)
Empyrean
Caller
demonic_phate

Mayor Vote from ShaLLoW[baY]:
FakeSteve

Lynch Votes from ShaLLoW[baY]:
Nightmare
Falcynn

Things to note:
When I brought up the fact that GeneralStan's vote shouldn't count in the mayor vote and Tracil should be the mayor Shallow quoted me and agreed. This leads me to believe that FakeSteve is probably not mafioso, although he may very well be. Or Shallow just wanted to come off as a logical townie.

I would really like to add more about what I think from these lists, however it is 1 am here and I have to wake up for school in 6 hours. So I'll hopefully add more tomorrow.
everliving, everfaithful, eversure
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
February 19 2008 09:14 GMT
#1599
its 4 am and I am still up analyzing the hell out of all of the clues so far. I am not taking into account anything said/done in the thread by the suspects, just the cold hard text chuiu has given us.

I will post my results once i finish
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
February 19 2008 09:32 GMT
#1600
here is a list of people with suspicious profiles:

starrek: born March 03, 1953
Empyrean: profile says Dogma: I am God. Empyrean means dwelling place of god in the divine comedy, source of light
infinity21: hairstyle
Scooter: pen spinning get ladies wet
Zelniq: sorry companion Cube, no cake
chicken`: 645kpm oot frying pan in the fire, poor johnny - left the stove on
Live2Win: accused list on profile shows confidence of not being lynched
goldenkrnboi: #1 light hater
Drowsy: As the echoes of laughter die out, crawl toward the earth where Gods lie buried
Mini Moose 2707: SEN Admin
imDerek: keke and halmet quote
ieatkids5: 5 in name and procrastination
Caller: Bread, apples, very small rocks, cider, horses, sherry, mud, churches, lead (most are things that float, from monty python and holy grail)
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
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