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On February 26 2008 07:33 Mini Moose 2707 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2008 01:33 Chuiu wrote:Moose was being lame and gave up on the game when nobody elected him in the mayor election, his death kinda reflects his inactivity and care since then. EDIT: You should be notifying Veterans when they are losing lives. Unless of course, you did it via IM instead of PM and I forgot about/never got it. 
Yeah I probably should have, but I chose not to this game. Besides, what do you care, you never even post or vote.
On February 26 2008 09:12 MidnightGladius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2008 08:08 nemY wrote:
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MidnightGladius Name somewhat fits into the clues (the shankings the stabbings and what not), but the there is never a time indicated where someone dies at 12am. Besides that clue maybe too obvious anyways.
... Um, sorry, but I'm not in this game.
That won't save you! JK, yeah we might as well point fingers at GeneralStan while we're at it.
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Haha I seriously thought GeneralStan was mafia too...
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almost as bad as the people who dont know the rules posting on like, every page? its kind of depressing sometimes =(
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I vote for Tracil, he's the last surviving mayoral candidate. Plus if we do vote mafia he could just pardon anyways.
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Yeah, but if he is a townie... zomg we'd be epic screwed.
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Ahh tracil. If he is mafia and we do not vote him, we have already lost the game. HOWEVER if he NOT mafia then we are wasting our sorely needed lynch.
Also, we have 2 vigilantes left who hopefully can kill the pardoned mafia person if Tracil IS mafia and pardons somebody. Furthermore afterwards if a vigil kills a mafia and Tracil pardoned him we can vote him next.
As of right now I think the best thing to do is find a mafia at work together as a town to lynch him.
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On February 26 2008 09:45 randombum wrote:
As of right now I think the best thing to do is find a mafia at work together as a town to lynch him.
LOL
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Here is my take on it. We have 2 choices:
1) Lynch Tracil, I believe he is mafia, but i am not 100% sure. I am saying this because i am assuming a huge amount that a mafia would want to be mayor, so people would vote for a fellow mafia to become mayor (obviously not all of them voted though, since some that have died are townies and tracil didnt receive more than 13 votes). The second reason i have is that if he IS mafia, and will pardon mafia, then we would be wasting a lynch if we try to lynch a mafia, or wasting a lynch if we lynch tracil and he is townie. All i know though, is that we dont need pardons anymore, because if we lynch any more townies past today, the game will be pretty much impossible to win.
2) Lynch a mafia that has an obvious clue. I suggest to miss the mark, because it is the most OBVIOUS clue there is. Dr.Dragoon said it, Chuiu is handing us mafia, and he's right! there are completely obvious clues in that passage and we still are ignoring them. If tracil pardons to miss the mark because he is mafia then tracil would have a hard time saying he isnt mafia.
After the lynching today, both vigilantes have to do their best in killing mafia targets, and paramedics saving those who we think are going to be targets of the mafia, otherwise we are just prolonging the inevitable.
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Did no one hear my speech right after day came?
If that doesn't persuade you, then I don't know what will.
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I vote for Tracil
Tracil's been on my list for a while (not very high on my list, but on it nonetheless) and since at least one of the mayor candidates has to be mafia I figure it's probably smart to vote for him. Also as the days go by and us townies continue failing to lynch any mafia I'm just slowly losing interest and relying on my gut more...
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Vote Count:
Tracil - 5
ZaplinG
Southlight
Fen
Caller
Falcynn
Alventenie - 2
HotZhot
Elder
imDerek - 2
randombum
Romance_us
NotSorry
nemY
Unforgiven_ve
ZBiR
nemY
NotSorry
Live2Win
Unforgiven_ve
13 of 46 possible voters accounted for. I will do another vote count in 25ish hours and probably move to night a couple hours after that.
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On February 26 2008 10:00 ZaplinG wrote:
Did no one hear my speech right after day came?
If that doesn't persuade you, then I don't know what will.
To quote Zola,
Je le répète avec une certitude plus véhémente: la vérité est en marche et rien ne l'arrêtera. C'est d'aujourd'hui seulement que l'affaire commence, puisque aujourd'hui seulement les positions sont nettes: d'une part, les coupables qui ne veulent pas que la lumière se fasse; de l'autre, les justiciers qui donneront leur vie pour qu'elle soit faite. Je l'ai dit ailleurs, et je le répète ici: quand on enferme la vérité sous terre, elle s'y amasse, elle y prend une force telle d'explosion, que, le jour où elle éclate, elle fait tout sauter avec elle. On verra bien si l'on ne vient pas de préparer, pour plus tard, le plus retentissant des désastres.
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Hmmm seems like Hotzhot's the real deal.
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Thats actually a pretty cool quote.
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Since I haven't posted a lot recently, I decided that I needed to do something to help. So, I compiled a list of the voting for previous days, in the hope that it will help us determine the scum.
Mayoral Election:
Tracil --- 13 votes --- Alive
CDRdude
ZBiR
goldenkrnboi
betaben --Dead
ulszz
demonic_phate
Fishball --Dead
Yogurt --Dead
Romance_us
Empyrean
dancefayedance!~
Hittegods --Dead
Alethios --Dead
SoMuchBetter --- 10 votes--- Dead
mahnini --Dead
chicken` --Dead
MyHeroNoob
Live2Win
Vharox
Folca
RtS)Night[Mare --Dead
ZaplinG
clazziquai
Eti307
FakeSteve --- 14 votes--- Dead
Puosu --Dead
Caller
KF91
SiZ.FaNtAsY
wurm --Dead
randombum
Hypnosis
Wizard --Dead
NotSorry
HotZhot
imDerek
ShaLLoW[baY] ---Dead
Dr.Dragoon ---Dead
mahnini --- 1 vote --- Dead
ieatkids5
infinity21 --- 1 vote --- Alive
So no fek --Dead
betaben --- 1 vote --- Dead
Southlight
Mini Moose 2707 --- 2 votes --- Dead
Falcynn
JeeJee --Dead
Please tell me if I missed something (Other than GeneralStan, because he sucks)
Right now, we only have 1 known mafioso who we can infer from. Unfortunately, he voted for a known townie, the late FakeSteve. This could mean a few things; he didn't realize that mafia could be mayor, there were no mafia candidates, or he voted for FS in spite of a mafia candidate. Of these, I think the last two are the most likely. Why would this be?
If the last one is the case, either Tracil, or infinity21 must be mafia. If infinity21 was mafia, it would provide a sensible explanation for why he didn't vote for him--it would be basically throwing his vote away. On the other hand, you have Tracil. If Tracil is mafia, then why didn't Shallow vote for him? The vote was close too, perhaps he could have swung the election. But given Shallow's conduct, I don't think this is impossible either. Looking at his posts, with hindsight, it seems to me like he's just out to have fun, which I presume he succeeded at when Dr.Dragoon got lynched by his word.
Then, we have the possibility that everyone wishes was true--that no mafia ran in the election. From a practical standpoint, this would easily demonstrate why Shallow didn't vote for the known mafia. I don't know if this is true, but with the way this lynching election is going we're likely to find out.
Okay, next up we had the Day #2 Lynchings:
Dr.Dragoon --Dead - 28
Live2Win
Eti307
clazziquai
Wizard --Dead
Alventenie
Vharox
goldenkrnboi
zdd
Fen
Tracil
HotZhot
Aepplet --Dead
Southlight
Puosu --Dead
Hittegods --Dead
demonic_phate
Romance_us
RtS)Night[Mare --Dead
KF91
Amber[LighT] --Dead
Fishball --Dead
Elder
CDRdude
Falcynn
imDerek
SoMuchBetter --Dead
So no fek --Dead
Fen
RtS)Night[Mare --Dead - 20
chicken` --Dead
ZBiR
wurm --Dead
Yogurt --Dead
FakeSteve[TPR] --Dead *4
Falcynn
Caller
Elder
Elder
JeeJee --Dead
Alventenie
imDerek
CDRdude
ShaLLoW[baY] --Dead
Wizard --Dead
SoMuchBetter
Puosu --Dead
Falcynn - 2
Fishball --Dead
ShaLLoW[baY] --Dead
HotZhot
JeeJee --Dead
NotSorry - 7
wurm --Dead
ulszz
Southlight
So no fek --Dead
goldenkrnboi
RtS)Night[Mare --Dead
Fen
Again, we only have one mafia to base this off of, so we have to make this count. Shallow voted for two people, (it was a double lynch day), one of which we now know to be innocent, one of which is still alive. Judging by this, I would say that when it comes down to it, Shallow votes for the betterment of the mafioso's goals. Taking that assessment as true, or at least somewhat likely, we can assume that Falcynn is innocent. As for if this applies to Tracil, I'm hesitant to say anything, but I have a hard time seeing Tracil as mafia.
And then the Day #3 Lynchings:
Live2Win - 3
Folca
JeeJee --Dead
clazziquai
SoMuchBetter - 19
HotZhot
ieatkids5
Falcynn
ulszz
Scooter
Thirdeye1017
CDRdude
Aepplet --Dead
ZBiR
ZaplinG
chicken` --Dead
dinmsab
Romance_us
Amber[LighT] --Dead
JeeJee --Dead
Tracil
infinity21
EmeraldSparks
Vharox
Caller - 2
Elder
NotSorry - 9
goldenkrnboi
nemY
Falcynn
Amber[LighT] --Dead
Unforgiven_ve
Tracil
Caller
ZaplinG
infinity21
Tracil - 8
imDerek
wurm --Dead
Scooter
Thirdeye1017
dancefayedance!~
Caller
EmeraldSparks
Eti307
Mini Moose 2707 --Dead
ulszz
Amber[LighT] --Dead
Alventenie
FakeSteve[TPR] - 11
chicken` --Dead
Romance_us
Aepplet --Dead
Live2Win
ZBiR
Southlight
CDRdude
demonic_phate
Elder
dancefayedance!~
dinmsab
Unforgiven_ve
Elder
nemY
wurm --Dead
For better or for worse, this day was without ShaLLoW[baY]. As such, we have a lot less to overanalyze, and we have to go on guesses alone. Here, I would like to bring up an interesting quote, just to make sure it isn't overlooked:
On February 25 2008 16:30 Alventenie wrote:
Ok, time for a long post, i will not interpret the clues, but rather talk about the previous day, and hopefully begin to understand this, and give us at least a fighting chance. First off, I am the detective, and i am not inactive, so i will recap what i have done so far during the first 3 day/night cycles to show you how hard this actually is to be any use as a detective.
Night 1, i asked if i could see how many mafia voted for a mayor candidate, but was told i could not find that answer, so i used one of the clues of a strangely dressed man/bowing clue to see if it related to artofmagic, and got answered a no. Now remember, each clue can point to various people, so im pretty much guessing as who i would believe fit that role, since they're 71 people day/night 1, that means i have to see if a clue fits for all 71 people, which, when given up to 13 clues, is alot of clues.
Day/night 2, i asked if someone tossing in there sleep was related to RtS)Night[Mare, but i didnt wait for chuiu to respond before posting the clue, and thus got him lynched for no reason.
Day/night 3, This is where it gets interesting, instead of asking a clue as i had no idea who to link to clues, i decided to see how many mafia lynched FakeSteve. Here is the list of people who voted for FS:
FakeSteve[TPR] - 11
chicken`
Romance_us
Aepplet
Live2Win
ZBiR
Southlight
CDRdude
demonic_phate
Elder
dancefayedance!~
dinmsab
Out of all these people, ONE, yes ONE, was mafia. That means 10 townies lynched our mayor, and since this night happened:
Chicken`, Aeppelet both died, and are townies. but that means we know more people who are townies to not let them become lynch victims, and one of those are mafia, although im willing to spare 1 mafia to keep 8 townies alive for now.
If he is telling the truth, that also provides us with a few clues as to the mafia's identity. Basically, the best bit of information in there (if true) is that there is 1 mafioso in the group of people who voted for FakeSteve. Assuming that all this is true, of the names up there, only one jumps out at me as connected with the clues: Romance_us.
A sweet floral scent entered his nostrils before JeeJee's life was ended by a gunshot to the head.
I vote Romance_us to be lynched.
Romance_us:
--voted Tracil for mayor
--voted Dr.Dragoon to be lynched
--voted SoMuchBetter to be lynched
--voted FakeSteve to by lynched
While this doesn't say anything for certain (hell, I voted for all those people too), it is another hint that Romance_us might be a mafioso.
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Very good post :D
I'm going to vote for Romance_us to be lynched!
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Once the game is done feel free to ask me to justify anything. For the moment, I'm just watching with ma popcorn out.
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That is so convincing :O
I think I will wait and see what everyone does in the next 20 or so hours.
But I will say I'm leaning towards lynching Romance_us
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EPT
