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On May 26 2024 21:15 CopCake wrote: Rsoultin playing D: There's room for more <3 | ||
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On June 06 2024 13:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: Once again almost impossible for me to play D1 ^^ Well gotta get shit done friday evening i guess. Haha, you don't have a 3-month old! I'm not even sure my brain works anymore. I guess we'll see. On the sort of bright side I'll technically be awake during deadline despite the inconvenient time since I've got the night shift with the little one...but maybe not available if she decides 4am is time for food xD | ||
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On June 07 2024 09:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah i dont, although we have a 1500sqm yard that needs to be taken care of first time in years i guess.  And this is the only weekend possible before my vacation in July. Oh man I don't envy you at all. Our own yard is definitely seeing the pregnancy into newborn neglect but it's far, far smaller than that lolol good luck! | ||
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Is the flag on the play that he looks like he answered his own question? | ||
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On June 07 2024 12:14 Trfel wrote: His argument only has validity if his time is being used more effectively doing something else, though. You haven't excited me yet. It's early days, but still...I am the sad. | ||
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On June 07 2024 12:18 AlphaZero wrote: Exactly so. is it really an honest question when he knows the answer. Very curious. Dude, I didn't not register it was Scott who said both things until you pointed it out and I was like oh! What a nice catch! Then I realized maybe it's not as significant just cause the masons he's talking about are the town masons where they're essentially confirmed? And then I waffled back because that doesn't explain his first post where he's never been in a mason game before, and what are the advantages. Regardless, it makes me like you so that's a win.Also, scott, haven't I played with you before? How have you been around this many years without ever playing a mason game? | ||
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On June 07 2024 12:19 Trfel wrote: I think scott31337 is probably the most suspicious person to ever play this game. He's just always mafia somehow, even when his role PM says he is town Dude, when did you get so smiley happy? Nice way to call a person scum but not scum btw. I'm just gonna keep watching you for something shiny. No pressure. xDDDDDDDDD | ||
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Rayn, I am very, very happy that your 'Truffle is having fun' wasn't a townread. That's how I initially read it and I was like...hmm. The calling people stupid thing was also not greeeat but idk as part of a joke it's not as weird for a truffle. Regarding the oats thing, I kinda get what Viva's putting down as an early read. It's very derpy derpy fuck you which feels nice and relaxed to me. I'm not quite sure why it's significant to you, though? The jump on the not reading the OP comment felt...ick. Very low-hanging fruit. What's the mafia motivation for just declaring you're not reading it? | ||
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On June 07 2024 12:34 scott31337 wrote: Because I took a long break and I played mostly newbie games. It's all in my profile. Those were in 2016. Since then I've gotten married, a better job, and moved to the country for a quick eight year summation. Plus, like I mentioned, the random option isn't really a mason - it's more like a neighbor (Since you aren't confirmed). Rayn already answered my question. I'm just gonna trust that you're not stupid enough to outright lie about something easily verifiable and not bother looking cuz lazy xD I will say, I've been buddied up to twice by scum trying to mason me and both times it made me scumread them so I'm not 100% in agreement it's not still a bit townfavored? I think it's harder to hide in a mason QT if you're making up shit cause two townies often get excited and feed off each other, especially if you can choose your mason partner. But, it's definitely true that it's not a free townread. Advice if you're town and get masoned is to use them as a sounding board and if they don't seem excited or relaxed, hold them accountable. | ||
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The problem with the Alpha thing is so many TL mafia folks have egos how do you tell? xD | ||
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On June 08 2024 01:13 marvellosity wrote: Rsoultin’s filter is full of a lot of nothing, having just given it a quick read. Don’t see much of an original thought about anything, but plenty of words to say so xP i'll try to post more to future posts next time | ||
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On June 08 2024 02:23 scott31337 wrote: Possibly, but I'd like to know your reasoning for such. well, narcissism originally haha >< i wanted credit for my truffle read he stole and took all the nuance out of but then he stayed on your stuff after rereading the whole thread and idk feels like there's a lot more going on at this stage i was also feeling icky about the mocsta - kelsier interaction but on rereading the filters separately it seems fine | ||
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marv i like that seems like the easiest read ever but whatevs, the pounce on sandy gave my good vibes even if he later got the dumbs and backed off over a kelsier townread | ||
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On June 08 2024 02:27 Trfel wrote: So I was trying to respond but I fell asleep before managing to do so. Whoops.I mean you can think whatever you want to think, I just think it shows some inconsistencies in Kelsi3r's thought process. @Kelsi3r, thanks for the explanation. I'll have to think about this.I admit I also have had a hard time finding what exactly you are interpreting as nitpicky, I tried to find it and failed. Guess I'm mafia. Ah well. And no, for not wanting to lynch Mocsta, it's because he was suspecting you when pretty much everyone else was saying you looked towny. It's far from 100% or anything but going against the grain like that can be a good indicator. Happy Friday, marvellosity!Uh, maybe I'm falling into the Chezinu trap with Alakaslam, but I actually think this is suspicious? Like, forgetting about the game or going to work or not posting isn't suspicious at all. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. Also, Alakaslam is one of those people who likes to post as mafia, so him not posting isn't a mafia indicator IMO regardless. What is suspicious is the self awareness. Specifically I am looking at a few games ago, it was a Grackaroni game where he invited everyone to the Discord server and Alakaslam was one of the first three people to join. So when three people joined, he thought that was the mafia Discord server and that he was mafia with them, and he said something like "I can't play for a few hours so go ahead and bus me for a while" which IMO doesn't make much sense, who pushes someone for being away for a few hours? But it shows that Alakaslam is exceptionally self-aware/self-conscious as mafia, particularly about activity levels. Unfortunately I can't say that Alakaslam isn't like this as town. I haven't seen anything to indicate that he has this mindset as town, but it's still possible. Regardless though I think it's worth keeping in mind.See here. I'm not sure what you are talking about with Kelsi3r's opening post, if you're asking if my reason for not wanting to lynch rsoultin is similar to Kelsi3r's, it's not at all.The issue here is that the post in question comes from scott31337 who (at least in my opinion) always manages to contradict himself and look really suspicious. I have no idea how someone can be so talented at this, but he manages quite well.I'm happy to start a war if you would like, I bet us smiley face users can take you boring unemotional people down take this with a grain of salt cause d1 slam read but he's making more sense than usual which i normally associate more with his scum game | ||
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On June 08 2024 02:33 scott31337 wrote: Did anything else stick out in their filters? Hypothetically if Sandroba was off the table, who else would you be interested in lynching? boring people who are closer to coinflips, namely dmb for commenting on game length and nothing else and slam's always a coinflip. that doesn't seem as fun nah actually just that mocsta seemed happy to be alive and kelsier annoyed that everyone's misunderstanding his posts, both feel like townie vibes to me, certainly enough barring anything weird coming up to keep them off the chopping block today | ||
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On June 08 2024 02:33 Trfel wrote: What? How is Alakaslam making sense, he hasn't really said anything?! yes but my brain didn't explode trying to interpret what he did say lolol this sounds so mean but it's truuuuee | ||
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On June 08 2024 02:38 Oatsmaster wrote: Rsoul what’s the Sandro scum read? hello oats how ya doing, just explained it up above, or i could use the word 'vibes' namely that he seemed like he was being all reasonable and shit but then his filter was very blah and focused scott who got the most flack from the beginning. very unexciting from a player i remember being good also i'm going to try not to read into preflip associations but note to self if sandro's scum this out of the blue poke from oats could be a scummate woot woot wouldn't it be cool if i found two already? \o/ sandy first | ||
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On June 08 2024 02:39 Trfel wrote: Um, would it be possible that you didn't struggle to understand what he said because...... he didn't say anything? XD lol you're such a shithead i supppooose in any event i want to lynch sandy more. slam will be clearer later probably maybe | ||
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but does this mean you'll vote sandy with me? | ||
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On June 08 2024 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: *Of mine i mean. Idk if i should be worried about that marv read on her, but it definitely raises my eebrows. eerrrr okay, okay why does that make marv scum? cause i liked the sandy poke and the laidback little bullshit in between but i'll be the first to admit i don't remember ever seeing a marv trying to play mafia (people tell me he's good when he tries) so i have no idea if that's in his range tonally i like him tho | ||
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if it was about saying i'd look bad for attacking truffle i feel like that's a general read misapplied | ||
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On June 08 2024 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: You didnt get the memo from past 8 or so years. I am a nice cuddly buddybutt now <3 unless its palmar. I dont think that looks as bad for sandroba as you do, more of your stuff looking good for you instead. -_- pfft okay then who do you wanna lynch? cause boring lynches are so boring | ||
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On June 08 2024 02:56 sandroba wrote: Felt off and stood out to me at that point on the thread, I'm content with not pursuing it since further reading points to town. you stole my story who do you wanna lynch if it's not still scott? i'm bored of the scott conversation | ||
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On June 08 2024 03:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dunno yet. I only finished yard work a while ago and now gor to playing. fine fine, i'll go sleep then. i knew i shouldn't join a mafia game i'm really bad at stepping away (but which marv read on me are you referring to?) | ||
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On June 08 2024 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Tingling voice in my head sas lynch marv that would at least be not boring lol >< and bonus points i could see him being mafia with sandy, but i still feel like he's town so...pfft | ||
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On June 08 2024 03:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: I mean i really really hate this post. it's certainly either disingenuous or derpy. i was leaning toward derpy though | ||
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On June 08 2024 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Is your case on sandroba base on talking too much about scott or? more or less mostly he just doesn't make me wet. it's more the how than the what, if that makes sense | ||
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On June 08 2024 03:08 sandroba wrote: What else is going on on the thread at that point which is juicier than scott which I refrained from commenting on? Also rayn what is good about this read specifically? everything | ||
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15 pages and we can only talk about scott's opening brought up by a number of people already, and trfel who you later find people aren't scumreading anymore feels like scum looking for an easy peasy wagon to meeeee | ||
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On June 08 2024 03:19 Trfel wrote: Like, EVEN IF we ignore the big juicy reason to suspect Kelsi3r: He hasn't really done anything? List of what he's done:
Not having any scumreads/suspicions, sure. But in combination with actually being somewhat present and posting? And in combination with the other thing, townreading rsoultin for liking with something that he didn't agree with himself? Would very much like to discuss this. i'm not ignoring your read i just don't want to answer for kelsier and i think there's a miscommunication in part of this, though i'm gonna note this for myself to look back on the suspicions point cause i hadn't noticed that now for realz sleep. like shoo me out of the thread if i don't, i don't have a big window and no self-control | ||
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On June 08 2024 04:05 Kelsi3r wrote: I like sandro on a filter dire dont like oats and then dmb/slam havedone fuck all i'm gonna ignore how slam and scott seem to find it weird to question a scumread about reads saaaaandy i'm trying not to tunnel but like the whole, hey can anyone confirm this meta cause my personal experience is (what i assume) that she's behaving the exact same way toward me as she did in this mafia game we played together and yet i'm talking about lynching rayn and not her? does not track, man i'd like to point out that there's a big difference between focusing on someone that matches thread sentiment and looking in another direction but also...fair cop, i've been focused on sandy and there's more than one scum my reason for townleaning oats is stupid as fuck; i too find easy townreads thrown my way squinty and idk seems like a more natural suspicion from town than something scum would do with potential allies in thread. if oats in particular does it differently idk which leaves me with sandy/kelsier rayn do you have a reason slam is town? you seemed certain. how certain? i guess i'll go filter dive viva and marv to see if my feelings change. they seemed fine as i was reading also sleep didn't happen -_- which is gonna suuuuuck tomorrow | ||
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is not lynching marv just policy, alpha? nope, can't call you alpha that felt wrong. AZ that's who you are now | ||
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On June 08 2024 06:47 AlphaZero wrote: Ohhh I figured out a part of why Scott looks bad. I read his posts and I can’t agree with his perspective, and he seems confused about things that look obvious to me. Even when I don’t agree with everything, most players post something I can empathise with. Scott’s thought processes are alien to me. Like he can’t fathom people town reading oats. Doesn’t make sense to me cause last looks clearly town. And good players are picking that up. okay, but...thought experiment, if scott is scum and oats is town, does that make sense as a read? i mean i guess if he was looking for a mislynch it could be frustrating to have people just remove someone from the table for what seems like very little but there are other low-hanging fruit to push or do you think they're both scum and scott knows oats is scum and then the 'good players' thing making a townread on oats is kinda negated isn't it? | ||
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On June 08 2024 01:04 scott31337 wrote: After re-reading the page before, this makes sense to me. Ehhh... This is like a "I don't know what else to write" I was going to give him another 6 or so hours, but yes - if marv rolls mafia he's super quiet. I liked rayn's point - marv agrees with it also. *noted* See I disagree with this. Although we did talk about the "red flags" weren't scum reading per se, I like this observation. My memory isn't the best - but it was more flagging the post then "Scott is mafia with red flags." Wouldn't lynch order raynpelikoneet - townie inquizzitive vibes. Hopefully we can figure out this game like last one and smoke out the mafs. Vivax - feels like his townie game too. marvellosity - feels like usual townie game. Like I mentioned, super quiet as mafia. Mocsta - I see him as town searching around - he seems to have an accurate read on me. Trfel - Feels townie as well. I'll be unvoting him. rsoultin - Even in obs I have a terrible time reading this person. Two people with more experience say elsewhise. Oatsmaster - I could be convinced, but is playing a little different. Could lynch order: Kelsi3r - His back and forths with Mocsta was pretty bad when Mocsta seemed genuine to me. Alakaslam - nothing of value contributed die_meatbaby - not enough info sandroba - Stayed on the Mason bandwagon after reading the thread - read of Kelsi3r and others seem bad AlphaZero - I don't think this is HF. Maybe DP? But seems to be a experienced player shitting up the thread. Hinted at me then went after Mocsta So I'm unvoting Trfel and voting for Kelsi3r. i think i didn't hate his reads was what it was cause we're mostly on similar pages, and he seems to not be too fazed by the early pressure from folks. that said it's not a strong townlean | ||
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On June 08 2024 06:58 AlphaZero wrote: Can you explain what you mean a bit more? It’s interesting but I am not sure I grasp the thought yet. i'm not really sure how to explain it better, tbh. i just don't feel lynching people you don't agree with or don't have the same reads as you is a great way to find scum generally, and i'm struggling to find the mafia motivation for being frustrated, seemingly, that someone you struggle to read others are townreading so easily with little to no explanation when you're trying to figure out their alignment. i know that's assuming town motivation, but what's the scum one i guess is the point? | ||
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On June 08 2024 07:06 AlphaZero wrote: Rso can you explain to me why Kellsier seems to be scum read by everyone. Am I missing something here? mostly just doing nothing while still being present in the thread | ||
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On June 08 2024 07:12 marvellosity wrote: Not just this, I agreed with the Scott take and sand came to the same conclusion as me on Trfel in the end too. fair i suppose, what do you think of him now? | ||
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i don't think i'd lynch him today in any case | ||
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On June 08 2024 07:29 AlphaZero wrote: The scum motivation is that it’s frustrating for townies to clear townies for “bad” reasons. I take your point however I do think there is value in determining if you can empathise (not agree) with someone’s thought processes cause that makes it more likely to be genuine. Remember mafia aren’t really thinking like town, so they are going to have times that their reads are just too ‘wrong’ to be town. i see your point. i don't fully agree on scott in particular in no small part because i can empathize with struggling to read someone as town but you could be right and i'm just wrong so there's that lol >< | ||
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if you can point out one thing he said in his catch up someone else hadn't already said...well then i'm misremembering shit for one. maybe the kelsier thing idk eeeeh i don't wanna look back at it though stop making me work -_- fine fine also fuck you marv -_- reminding me how often rayn tunneled me when we were both town is not helping my paranoia at all is he really all buddy buddy these days? he certainly wasn't last time we played. not that it matters, cause he likes to buddy me when he's mafia asdgaga | ||
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On June 08 2024 08:36 rsoultin wrote: can i just say that if sandy turns out to be scum the townies in this game owe me a big apology if you can point out one thing he said in his catch up someone else hadn't already said...well then i'm misremembering shit for one. maybe the kelsier thing idk eeeeh i don't wanna look back at it though stop making me work -_- fine fine also fuck you marv -_- reminding me how often rayn tunneled me when we were both town is not helping my paranoia at all is he really all buddy buddy these days? he certainly wasn't last time we played. not that it matters, cause he likes to buddy me when he's mafia asdgaga okay it does seem he was first on the kelsier read so i def misremembered that my impression was he was largely following thread sentiment with the excuse of catching up without adding anything. idk if the kelsier read being an outlier is enough to change my opinion | ||
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On June 08 2024 08:45 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin, I understand what you're saying about sandroba, but that strikes me more as reasons to not townread him than as reasons to scumread him? What am I missing? yeah i really don't know how to explain it better than i already have? i know feeling lackluster and sheepy when i expect more from him isn't the most compelling argument but he remains the one i feel strongest about. i don't hate a kelsier lynch either i'm prob gonna have to figure out where this viva push is coming from. i agree that it seemed to suddenly gain traction from quarters where people weren't scumreading him earlier which is making me itchy, though maybe that's me misremembering again if we default lynch dmb is fine i think someone asked me about viva...oh oats, that's who it was the dropping the scumread thing from amz and i didn't hate the early scott callout but i also agree there's not been much interesting besides that. i do agree his wild flailing shadowboxing is more what i expect from him | ||
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it's also shitty pre-flip stuff but i won't vote with sandy fuck that shit. also i just like scott so sue me | ||
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i mean i guess it's possible but such an early buss feels strange? | ||
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On June 08 2024 09:18 marvellosity wrote: Vivax may or may not be scum. He can be town. Just because he looks a bit worse than early d1 doesn’t make him maf necessarily. Regardless it’s too weak of a pre~flip association to pay any attention to. And you should know better tbh :p i mean sure but you were ready to lynch him two seconds before az called scott so like...what changed? | ||
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On June 08 2024 09:20 marvellosity wrote: And objective inconsistency? What are you actually talking about lol az's gotcha moment | ||
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isn't the crux of the push on scott 1) he opened with setup discussion = mafia = policy lynch 2) he asked how masons are towny then explained how masons are towny = objectively inconsistent | ||
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On June 08 2024 08:17 AlphaZero wrote: I’ll lynch vivax with you oats. Vote:vivax gdit i'm losing my fucking mind, it was az not you | ||
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On June 08 2024 00:06 sandroba wrote: Basically if the initial question wasn't fake, definitely what rayn answered is not enough to address the question. If it is fake you are either doing it to create discussion and you don't really care about it, or you are trying to blend in not create discussion. If you intension is the former which could be a townie agenda, you wouldn't try to cut it short when you got the discussion going, which was what scott did. It makes more sense it was the latter which points to mafia agenda. what, this one marv? | ||
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On June 08 2024 09:30 marvellosity wrote: Yes yeah that's more parroting. az and rayn had already beaten that to death and frankly...i think it reads like a misunderstanding if you go back and read the interaction between rayn and scott | ||
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On June 08 2024 09:34 AlphaZero wrote: You know there is more to it than that. cause you commented on it. Come on now. the 'more to it' isn't interesting to me it was fine for you and viva to jump on that early cause that was all there was and probably the only interesting thing going on apart from truffle sounding like a bloody robot. we've now got ~30 pages of game | ||
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On June 08 2024 09:33 die_meatbaby wrote: uff i don´t why this makes you a bit townie for me. a fucking bs mistake what just feels so green for me. But i need more to make actuall reads. whats you opinion on az? he's been trending down for me tbh. i don't think i care much about pursuing him today, though. i feel like if he's town we can sort it out later if both of us are even still in the game, and i don't trust myself to read him because he feels like a player i always scumread lol >< | ||
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On June 08 2024 09:41 AlphaZero wrote: Yes that’s fair in isolation. but the second point against him definitely tracks with a mafia agenda. Now there are two points for the same player that don’t sit right. That’s a pattern building. But hey, feel free to present an alternative option if you see one. I will consider it on its merits. and your second point is what? that he thought it was scummy you went after viva when he couldn't find any mention of him in your filter after yammering about him all day? cause if that's the case, i'm not following | ||
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On June 08 2024 09:46 rsoultin wrote: and your second point is what? that he thought it was scummy you went after viva when he couldn't find any mention of him in your filter after yammering about him all day? cause if that's the case, i'm not following you did mention issues with viva before voting though so hrum, i guess i can see how you'd see that as a scum!scott reaction. though then my question is what was your post about 'knowing' someone (probably scum) would mention that? frankly i'm just confused -_- | ||
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On June 08 2024 09:46 die_meatbaby wrote: Are you looking for the weakest players again like in your last mafia game? do you feel vivax is one of the weakest players in this game? this is a genuine question because i wouldn't normally consider him a weak player in a vacuum, at least as town | ||
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On June 08 2024 09:53 scott31337 wrote: I would attempt to explain more than what's already in my thread but I think that horse has died at least twice already. you don't need to explain it to me scott i'd also be weirded out if someone had a hard-on for me than hard left-turned seemingly out of the blue, even if he had put viva as null more recently | ||
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scott, oats, truffle, mocsta, marv my weakest townreads of those is scott but i get where he's coming from on too many things and i don't like too many people pushing him everything else is negotiable. i think i'd prefer to lynch into sandy, kelsier and viva rayn and az i'm not comfy with but don't want to lynch cause i don't trust i'm not just being overly paranoid with them slam and dmb i don't particularly care about though i'm inclined to sheep marv's sheeping rayn on the slam read | ||
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cause you haven't posted enough for me to get any sort of read on? i'll let you know if and when that changes | ||
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On June 08 2024 09:57 die_meatbaby wrote: No not at all. V already played a lot of mafia games on many different websides and some of that are really good. It´s just my thing that I am always try to read him first. And this was more like a general question to oats, because in his last game (mafia Oats) just posted kill dmb. vote dmb. scum dmb... and he came almost through with this bs on just hitting on the weak players, newbe or how ever you want to call me just because my husband (artanis) mentioned this pre-game, i want to confirm, you and viva are a thing? is that why you try to always read him first? and if so, why would you assume others would? or is that not what you were trying to say when you entered the thread | ||
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On June 08 2024 10:15 die_meatbaby wrote: why do you think you are paranoid about az? I have this problem with rayn that in every fucking game that we are playing I am reading him wrong. He is mafia I think he is town and the other way around. So it´s really very hard for me to make a opinion on him and i am Paranoid as hell as soon as I think i found his aligment. He is a strong town player but sadly also a strong mafia player. I am scared to make a read on him especially when it´s this early in the game lol same regarding rayn well az reminds me of another player whose scum game consists of buddying top townies (and by this i mean the 'good players' the community here generally listens to) and crawling so far up their asses he goes under the radar. idk that this is the same player but the interchange with marv is giving me those vibes. tbc marv is good, but i guess i mean the people who have the most pull if people are reading them town now i don't know that az's the same person or not so that's not reason enough to scumread him at all. but his view of the game also isn't aligning with mine on several fronts so those two things together earns him the rayn tier of i don't fucking know. i'm hoping if he's town that'll become clear in further discussion lol >< | ||
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On June 08 2024 09:58 Oatsmaster wrote: It’s a super out of context “catch” from Scott that isn’t taking into account thread sentiment and what’s going on i understand the meaning of his words but that wasn't my question. i'd prefer az still clarify this second point of his | ||
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On June 08 2024 10:27 die_meatbaby wrote: So you think you already know az but you are not sure if it´s the same person? Did i get that right? kinda? lol >< i know it's dumb if he weren't also trying to lynch someone i don't think is scum while declaring my strongest scumread top town it wouldn't factor in at all. genuine trauma response  the player in question has mislynched me...maybe even twice? definitely once. and i rarely get misylnched. while i was desperately trying to get his butt buddy to realize they were being had | ||
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On June 08 2024 10:33 Mocsta wrote: im ok with rayn at this point, mainly because the direction he is leading conversations seem to have aligned with my own points of curiosity. on the other hand i have noticed he appears to be lurking a fair bit (i.e. post increase times with when upper tier players are around). that in itself is not scummy at this point in the game although should be monitored each day as it will increasingly become scummy if activity and direction of conversation diminishes. az, i havent changed my mind on, just view it as desctructive to pursue this cycle. this is interesting. i know he already said he'd have spotty activity this weekend but it continues to give me good feels about you | ||
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On June 08 2024 11:12 Vivax wrote: Somehow I hold the belief that if I asked Oats his name in a normal situation I‘d hear him say ‚Hi, I‘m Oafsmaftqh‘ based on his performance in this game. He has this passive aggressiveness about him and then we have AZ trying to fire him up in very obvious manipulation attempts that are almost comical in their obviousness but the best part is that they seem to work. Maybe he even believes that he doesn‘t live in a fascist oligarchy and that a red man brings him presents at christmas. where are you at on the people who didn't vote to lynch you? | ||
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On June 08 2024 11:29 Mocsta wrote: is there anything that can be made of the lack of mason claim? to me: i assume scum received whisper and did not use - main reason being, either mason that is town i believe should have claimed to close out loop with scott situation. by now, there is sufficient reactions / discussion in place that this would be beneficial to town. i have to assume all town would recognise that. does this point out anything about the scum team? perhaps that upper tier / mechanic focused player is part of it? oh i didn't catch that this was at the start of each day...good point. i don't see any reason to keep it quiet either. doesn't mean there aren't any but i don't see it | ||
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On June 08 2024 11:50 Oatsmaster wrote: Not really sure why you don’t think that’s a strong indicator one of the scum players isn’t confident i literally just said that in different words oats | ||
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On June 08 2024 12:06 Oatsmaster wrote: You say “inferring who might be on the scum team by it seems like too many points of failure” that’s the direct opposite of what I said -_- ay naku because mocsta was saying it was a strong scum understanding the mechanics? and while i think mafia having the mason qt seems likely, what exactly will saying it was a weak player net us? or a strong player? what does that say about the scum team composition as a whole? there are so many unknowns there that it just doesn't seem like a fruitful point of inquiry over actually discussing what's going on in the thread i agree i'd be more inclined to think weak player over strong but that doesn't get me anywhere on who i want to lynch. both can still exist in the team and i think it would be just as misguided to rule out strong players on the scum team as weak because no one's claimed a qt in thread idk if this helps you at all but i'm not inclined to explain further cause i don't think this gets us anywhere and i feel you're town | ||
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i'm assuming oats you're suggesting that if your scumread flips scum the lack of interaction suggests mocsta may be scum with him and possibly scott too? or am i misunderstanding? | ||
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On June 08 2024 12:55 Oatsmaster wrote: Super easy to fake. Would I be correct in assuming your scum game is very good? i feel it's shit but objectively i've carried my scum team against good players lol >< i'm definitely good at still being active as scum | ||
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On June 08 2024 12:54 Oatsmaster wrote: More so those were two pretty significant things that have happened in the game that mocsta seems to have missed ah i thought you meant interacted with in the thread when you said engaged | ||
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the little one will be up soon and tbh i can't do another 4 hour sleep day, if only because artanis will murder me if i get sick and land him with all the baby care lolol so i prob won't be around until the last few hours before deadline. toodles folks. prob gonna stick where i'm at unless sandy gets enough traction to be a real lynch, barring anything that substantially changes my reads on him or kelsier of course | ||
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Yet thats how i perceive your scott case I also find it genuinely mindboggling how anyone is hard townreading sandy like you and marv are and yet i think you're town so pfft | ||
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On June 08 2024 21:10 AlphaZero wrote: What makes you think my case is on scummy town rather than scum? Determining this seems purely subjective and is also kind of the point of the game . I don’t see the purpose of this post except to undermine my case on Scott, despite it being framed as needing to “explain” something to me. You can not agree, but you haven’t actually offered much in the realm of proactivity in pushing another read.. I don’t really understand the hard defense of Scott as your direction over offering something better than I have offered. yeah i don't always post with a purpose lol >< i'm mostly frustrated i see no point in rehashing why i want to lynch sandy or don't want to lynch scott or think kelsier's more likely scum than scott because i just feel you're gonna be on your but my case is ironclad kick and frankly i don't have the spoons. i agree that his entry looks scummy but i just don't feel that carries the weight you do against sandy literally doing fuck all while everyone's happy to let him skate regarding your oh no she suddenly had a reads change truffle it's mostly the only reason i had to read kels town is him getting grumpy over multiple people misunderstanding his posts and i empathized but he's got the same problem as sandy and that one tonal thing isn't strong enough for me to townread him. i don't think you are ever capable of bullying anyone out of a thread, least of all kelsier, i just think he doesn't want to play and the longer he does jackall the less likely i think that comes from town dunnae if that helps regarding oats idk what to tell you dude. i think you have the same problem with oats that az has with scott i think he's poking at things that interest him and not caring if that gets him scrutiny. could i be wrong? yeah. on both. but doesn't change i don't want to lynch either of them | ||
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On June 08 2024 21:19 AlphaZero wrote: At this point there has been nothing stronger than my Scott ‘case’ except for the push on Mocsta. Which is why it’s so frustrating that people are defending him instead of trying to find the other mafia. i'm usually better at finding town than mafia, especially d1 different strokes for different folks understand the frustration though lol >< | ||
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On June 08 2024 21:25 AlphaZero wrote: I don’t think the last part is what happened. I think it’s policy. it's not policy because it's not just about activity. it's about what he's done while active. i don't think he's done anything interesting at all | ||
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On June 08 2024 21:31 AlphaZero wrote: I will say one thing. Sandroba needs to do things cause I’m getting antsy. Rso is right about that. \o/ dude that almost made me smile i'm so damn tired -_- | ||
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On June 08 2024 21:33 Oatsmaster wrote: He’s just not here though. When he’s here the posting is good from what I’ve rwad oats dude, my impression of sandy is he comes in and parrots the thread and parks on scott who at the time had the most thread sentiment against him i know this comes from focusing overmuch on him parroting what i said on truffle early game when he was stiff as a board, but then he drops truffle. one interpretation is he sees the exact same thing everyone else does later in the game while he's catching up i'll admit it's easy to have 'correct' reads when mirroring thread sentiment after the fact. i don't see anything good or original from him except maybe the kelsier being grumpy makes him town? and it's just stupid weird that he literally says scum!rso has hard pushed me but i think they're just terrible this time and rayn's scum but rayn's metaread on them is giving me more pause over my own experiences with her when she was mafia how does that make sense? yes i'm focused on me but whatever lol >< i'm not pretending to be objective | ||
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i'll focus on the bigger things for me On June 08 2024 00:01 sandroba wrote: The thing about scott is that the initial question already seems fake, but the follow-up about being satisfied with rayn's answer to the question doesn't seem like something that could be genuine, it looks like something to say when you are hoping to put a close to a line of questioning. ^what i assume made people like him rayn already focused this down On June 07 2024 13:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: You said you wanted an opinion, and said i gave the answer youre looking for. But this is definitely NOT what i said. On June 07 2024 13:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: But you also said "rayn gave the answer i was looking for" when Vivax confronted you. Whats that about then, if your opinion is basically the opposite? but then scott explains On June 07 2024 13:08 scott31337 wrote: Because these aren't "Masons" I think that's a disingenuous term for the random "neighbor" meetup. I think neighbor is a better term. Just because I haven't played with a Mason game, doesn't mean I don't understand what they are. It doesn't confirm anyone in this game. "It's just fun to talk privately with someone." I trust your wisdom that this is really all the extra perk is about. and rayn accepts that (and i also find it reasonable) On June 07 2024 13:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay maybe all this hassle is pointless. so rayn, viva, and az all pinging on scott, i tr viva and az for pinging on him the way they did, truffle says scott looks scummy (but always does) = the read's very in line with thread sentiment i don't know why anyone's getting a hard-on for everyone else's read/feels in different words. maybe he's a better communicator whatevs then there's truffle: On June 07 2024 23:03 sandroba wrote: Trfel so far seems overly friendly and lighthearted in his tone, and employing an overuse of smiley faces which should definitely be criminalized in this town. It's different from the past 2 games we played where he was town. ^ this is me and rayn, rayn literally saying he's having fun and me poking at the emoticon usage, maybe there was someone else too idk but at least us now as i've said this next bit could just be him reading the same thread getting the same reads but truffle's dropped like 3 posts later On June 07 2024 23:18 sandroba wrote: So far I like rayn and trfel as town. with this explanation On June 08 2024 02:56 sandroba wrote: Felt off and stood out to me at that point on the thread, I'm content with not pursuing it since further reading points to town. and obv a lot of people were saying they were feeling better about truffle now none of this makes sandy scum before people get all grumpy and ride my ass. but there are no shiny interesting takes it's rehashing, and in that context i don't like it otherwise there's the kelsier townread (which i think might have been original on a relook), the smurf thing (nai), agreeing with az on mocsta looking weird (obv not original) but then there's this exchange: On June 08 2024 03:01 rsoultin wrote: you stole my story who do you wanna lynch if it's not still scott? i'm bored of the scott conversation On June 08 2024 03:16 sandroba wrote: I'm not over scott. That single post by dmb then fucking off does look really bad, could get behind that. Rayn liking your terrible reasoning without knowing what it is also moves him away from my townie lean On June 08 2024 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: I "like her read" (lets put it this way -- because i do not necessarily agree with it) on you because in my experience rsoultin hates lying and taking a stance like that (which is not completely unreasonable), points towards her being town. I mean i can go further into this if you want to, but i just dont think she would accuse town!sandroba as mafia!rsoultin (even less if youre both mafia) like that. Basically i don't agree with her, that what you said and did makes you mafia, but i think it makes her town. On June 08 2024 03:39 sandroba wrote: The game I most remember with rsoul she was mafia and antagonized and accused me the whole game. I remember it because it caused me to waffle on her and lose the game. Can anyone corroborate this rsoul meta rayn is pointing out? and this just bothers me like i can see a world where sandy is tryna keep an open mind i guess and i understand pinging rayn on the how do you agree with her if you don't know her case, as well as accepting rayn's explanation than he can tr me without agreeing with me BUT what i don't get is why i'm not a scumread of his when the bolded is literally what he remembers of me why trust rayn over personal experience? which brings me back to how is sandy not bringing anything interesting to the thread and moreover why is everyone tr ing him for that? am i giving his towngame too much credit to expect more than a single tr on kelsier cause the dude's angry from sandy? | ||
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On June 09 2024 01:13 Vivax wrote: Yeah. I lowkey think Trfel and rayn are trying to help her be less obvious lol. Or maybe I'm just overconfident. Youre town so thats good | ||
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On June 09 2024 01:50 Vivax wrote: It‘d be of help to me if you could be a bit more decisive on the scott vs kelsier debate Wtf are you even talking about? | ||
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On June 09 2024 01:54 Vivax wrote: Could you briefly put into words what you think of the two. And why Kelsier is the better choice when he isn‘t trying to hide his awfulness. scott looks like scummy town cause i like where his fucking head's at and oddly enough the bullshit about the setup is so not compelling to me at all it's like you guys want to ignore the entire filters of people to nitpick one or two things to 'make' someone scum or 'make' someone town instead of taking into account overall play, and i guess that's where i differ from everyone else kelsier got mad. he could've gotten mad as scum or town just as genuinely. look at the rest of the filter and tell me how you can townread that guy meanwhile scott's at least doing his own thing over there while everyone's shitting kittens. he was seeing the game a lot closer to the way i was | ||
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On June 09 2024 01:55 Vivax wrote: That‘s fine as answer. I just don‘t get the sandro bit but we‘ll see how that evolves. -_- well here's hoping i'm just wrong and chasing my tail i guess cause i don't trust this town to catch scum!sandy otherwise | ||
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On June 09 2024 00:06 Oatsmaster wrote: How is Sandro not scum reading you rsoul? He’s definitely not townreaidng you based on the quotes you pulled. He also doesn’t trust Rayns read on you based on the quote you pulled that says “who else has rayns experience with rsoul” because i literally asked him who he wanted to lynch and i wasn't in his pile? | ||
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On June 09 2024 02:10 marvellosity wrote: Thank goodness you’re here to tell us how to play mafia Eh fuck off | ||
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On June 09 2024 02:18 Oatsmaster wrote: Not really sure how that makes you a town read? Your point is invalid if he thinks you are null disagree | ||
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On June 09 2024 02:25 Oatsmaster wrote: Explain your point again with Sandro having you as null he should be scumreading me if he's town paranoid scumrso is doing him again, null is weaksauce. others in that list had to be nulls. now go poke elsewhere im going to sleep if you can't understand or disagree with me this wont get you anywhere and it def wont get me anywhere | ||
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On June 09 2024 02:43 Oatsmaster wrote: Why should he be scumreading you? Nobody good goes into games defaulting okay i'm saying from a town!sandro perspective all he remembers of me is when i tunneled him as scum and he ended up losing because he as he put it 'waffled and lost the game'. this is ground zero right before any other input. from his perspective this looks the same to him (or if it doesn't idk why he posted that). and yet when i ask him who he wants to lynch he of course says scott fine that's his scumread, then dbz when she'd only posted the one post that's gotta be a null read, and rayn for liking my 'terrible reasoning' without knowing what it is, moving him from a town lean which implies null but could mean scum. fair cops on all of those from a sandy town perspective, except i should 100% be in that group if he thinks this looks exactly like my scum game where i caused him to lose that's not 'defaulting' into anything. that's a line of reasoning that makes no sense to me. if he doesn't want to lynch me as town!sandy seeing what he thinks is the same thing as my scum game, i'd expect a reason why and i don't see any other than oh rayn who he at least wasn't sure of a couple posts ago says the meta's different like maybe i'm wrong on this but in my world sandy should be either convinced i'm scum or at least very paranoid about it he has no thread presence none he was interacting with past game, up until the point people questioned him on his reads and somehow lands on me as null for what he describes as a 'contrived' read on him because i seemed townie before? like literally all i did before was poke a little and that's the part of my filter marv decided i was doing nothing in that rayn and later truffle jumped on him for. who are sandy's other scumreads that make me just null for him at that point? i don't buy it i mean tbf he did parrot my early reads which were like...everyone's lol >< i could be wrong but i don't think so | ||
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On June 08 2024 06:01 sandroba wrote: Rayn on rsoul: I had similar thoughts to her from reading the initial pages and had a town lean. Her random call out on me seems contrived because she herself does not comment on anything else besides accusing me of lack of commentary. If she really believes I missed something important or more telling than the stuff on scott I would expect she would have commented on that when re-entering the thread. She is in the null pile on kelsier his dismissive attitude towards mocsta's post and not making an effort to understand where he was coming from was totally carefree, it felt really townie ^literally last post in his filter | ||
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On June 09 2024 06:51 rsoultin wrote: i don't know he's not paranoid, he's not acting paranoid | ||
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On June 08 2024 03:16 sandroba wrote: I'm not over scott. That single post by dmb then fucking off does look really bad, could get behind that. Rayn liking your terrible reasoning without knowing what it is also moves him away from my townie lean On June 08 2024 03:39 sandroba wrote: The game I most remember with rsoul she was mafia and antagonized and accused me the whole game. I remember it because it caused me to waffle on her and lose the game. Can anyone corroborate this rsoul meta rayn is pointing out? On June 08 2024 06:01 sandroba wrote: Rayn on rsoul: I had similar thoughts to her from reading the initial pages and had a town lean. Her random call out on me seems contrived because she herself does not comment on anything else besides accusing me of lack of commentary. If she really believes I missed something important or more telling than the stuff on scott I would expect she would have commented on that when re-entering the thread. She is in the null pile on kelsier his dismissive attitude towards mocsta's post and not making an effort to understand where he was coming from was totally carefree, it felt really townie On June 08 2024 03:16 sandroba wrote: I'm not over scott. That single post by dmb then fucking off does look really bad, could get behind that. Rayn liking your terrible reasoning without knowing what it is also moves him away from my townie lean On June 08 2024 03:39 sandroba wrote: The game I most remember with rsoul she was mafia and antagonized and accused me the whole game. I remember it because it caused me to waffle on her and lose the game. Can anyone corroborate this rsoul meta rayn is pointing out? On June 08 2024 06:01 sandroba wrote: Rayn on rsoul: I had similar thoughts to her from reading the initial pages and had a town lean. Her random call out on me seems contrived because she herself does not comment on anything else besides accusing me of lack of commentary. If she really believes I missed something important or more telling than the stuff on scott I would expect she would have commented on that when re-entering the thread. She is in the null pile on kelsier his dismissive attitude towards mocsta's post and not making an effort to understand where he was coming from was totally carefree, it felt really townie On June 08 2024 03:16 sandroba wrote: I'm not over scott. That single post by dmb then fucking off does look really bad, could get behind that. Rayn liking your terrible reasoning without knowing what it is also moves him away from my townie lean On June 08 2024 03:39 sandroba wrote: The game I most remember with rsoul she was mafia and antagonized and accused me the whole game. I remember it because it caused me to waffle on her and lose the game. Can anyone corroborate this rsoul meta rayn is pointing out? On June 08 2024 06:01 sandroba wrote: Rayn on rsoul: I had similar thoughts to her from reading the initial pages and had a town lean. Her random call out on me seems contrived because she herself does not comment on anything else besides accusing me of lack of commentary. If she really believes I missed something important or more telling than the stuff on scott I would expect she would have commented on that when re-entering the thread. She is in the null pile on kelsier his dismissive attitude towards mocsta's post and not making an effort to understand where he was coming from was totally carefree, it felt really townie On June 08 2024 03:16 sandroba wrote: I'm not over scott. That single post by dmb then fucking off does look really bad, could get behind that. Rayn liking your terrible reasoning without knowing what it is also moves him away from my townie lean On June 08 2024 03:39 sandroba wrote: The game I most remember with rsoul she was mafia and antagonized and accused me the whole game. I remember it because it caused me to waffle on her and lose the game. Can anyone corroborate this rsoul meta rayn is pointing out? On June 08 2024 06:01 sandroba wrote: Rayn on rsoul: I had similar thoughts to her from reading the initial pages and had a town lean. Her random call out on me seems contrived because she herself does not comment on anything else besides accusing me of lack of commentary. If she really believes I missed something important or more telling than the stuff on scott I would expect she would have commented on that when re-entering the thread. She is in the null pile on kelsier his dismissive attitude towards mocsta's post and not making an effort to understand where he was coming from was totally carefree, it felt really townie | ||
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On June 09 2024 07:03 Mocsta wrote: I'm becoming more and more open to lynch outside kelsier He doesn't looked bullied out to me as his tone is pretty consistent start to finish I still think his tone specifically to me is more unhelpful mafia than town, however the nonchalantness is somewhat consistent even after which I am.imcreasingly.viewing as townie ... I really don't want to vote Scott for mason stuff Is there a case outside of that? .... Rsoultin I will give sandroba a read thaaaank you yeah az had something about...idk scott's reaction to his vivax vote idk if there's anything else really other than him saying he doesn't understand scott not townreading oats? | ||
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On June 09 2024 07:12 Mocsta wrote: Rsoultin Remind me too please. Why are you voting kelsier? cause i don't want to lynch scott and no one wants to lynch sandy, and i have no reason to townread kelsier. his scumreads were all zzz. plus everyone on him were townreads of mine | ||
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On June 09 2024 07:14 Oatsmaster wrote: Maybe my reading comprehension is poor but I don’t see a single line where he says “Rsoul is playing in this game like the previous game where she was mafia” -_- | ||
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it is. you're right, this: On June 08 2024 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: I "like her read" (lets put it this way -- because i do not necessarily agree with it) on you because in my experience rsoultin hates lying and taking a stance like that (which is not completely unreasonable), points towards her being town. I mean i can go further into this if you want to, but i just dont think she would accuse town!sandroba as mafia!rsoultin (even less if youre both mafia) like that. Basically i don't agree with her, that what you said and did makes you mafia, but i think it makes her town. On June 08 2024 03:39 sandroba wrote: The game I most remember with rsoul she was mafia and antagonized and accused me the whole game. I remember it because it caused me to waffle on her and lose the game. Can anyone corroborate this rsoul meta rayn is pointing out? On June 08 2024 03:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: she does that as mafia, you are right. this however does not look like that. is not literally saying this looks like my scum game with him. it's just strongly implying it | ||
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On June 09 2024 07:23 Mocsta wrote: I want to know what sandroba identified as weird in kelsier filter also I'm surprised here as majority seem to view kelsier as town from that sandy/rayn/kelsier scumteam totally exists in my world but if i talk about rayn truffle will beat me with a bat for mentioning anyone he doesn't think we should/could lynch today which is the first thing that's made me waffle on truffle since he picked up after the early game but honestly i'm too tired to suspect everyone at this point maybe slam or dmb in one of those slots if one's town but i don't think both | ||
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On June 09 2024 07:26 Oatsmaster wrote: It looks to me like Sandro is disagreeing with Rayns meta read on you that’s all. Nothing specially to do with your play this game ... okay you could be right on that tbf | ||
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On June 09 2024 07:35 Oatsmaster wrote: Why wouldn’t he be pushing you as scum!sandro though too much effort | ||
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On June 09 2024 07:46 scott31337 wrote: If you do this, He's going to want to lynch me and I'll flip town. Only if you lynch him D2 is this a suitable outcome. tbf i suspect that would just be two mislynches? but i could be wrong lol >< | ||
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same with kelsier and scott like even if we mislynch that's way more information because we were all talking about them to some extent than lynching the absent person. you mentioned the self-conscious thing before are there like specific games you're getting that from (sorry if i missed that part) | ||
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On June 09 2024 08:20 Oatsmaster wrote: Nah we aren’t lynching for info that’s not a thing. (Info that is not related to blue roles) lol that's not what i'm saying. i'm saying in a vacuum everything being equal | ||
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On June 09 2024 08:18 Vivax wrote: It‘s tough when the nonvoters + sandro seem to be mia at the same time. Sandro‘s thought process that I quoted would be hard to fake though. It‘s always a bit complicated tho mmm i mean i'll acknowledge i could just be very tunneled on sandy, but i consider that y'all's fault for giving me so many people to townread xP i'm assuming you mean the posts about scott and me? i don't actually think there's much of any post that can't be made by scum as long as it's a normal thought for them to have as a player about what makes scum and town play when it comes to reasoning out a read? just think objectively what's scummy? you know? i guess that's why i look for people seeing things others haven't and bringing it to their attention though you could argue that's what sandy did when saying my read on him was contrived lolol | ||
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On June 09 2024 08:30 AlphaZero wrote: This is terrible reasoning. Let’s not lynch scum because it tells us nothing. You would take that every time day one given the chance. -_- all things being equal all things being equal all things being equal two scumreads of equal weight two null reads of equal weight one everyone's had to take stances on one barely mentioned i'd favor the first that's my point yes, obviously, i prefer a damn scum lynch to a mislynch that's why i won't lynch into my townreads -_- | ||
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On June 09 2024 08:36 AlphaZero wrote: I’m not commenting on that. I’m commenting on the reasoning which was off. it wasn't | ||
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On June 09 2024 08:36 AlphaZero wrote: You have too many town reads though. It’s making me nervous honestly . fine, be nervous. assume i have too many townreads cause i'm scum and know they're town and not because i'm trying to narrow down who i want to lynch when i have 5 out of 13 i'll join a wagon on if i'm right and you're town you'll know it's genuine later idc if you think i'm bad for the way i play | ||
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On June 09 2024 08:43 AlphaZero wrote: It’s more that you are town reading people for reasons I can’t empathise with. And it’s happening too often. Just a little tmi. It’s possible you just have a gift at town reading scummy players. Or you are town reading people too quickly incorrectly. *shrugs* i guess we'll both know later | ||
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On June 09 2024 08:47 Mocsta wrote: town can also not want to be mislynched.. is this 'effort'notion a scott meta thing? at the risk of answering for viva if scum's gonna keep posting they want to either 1) try to get the lynch off them 2) shit up the thread or they just roll over i guess there's the third option of trying to get more attention so it's off a scummate if you've got two scum up for lynch? i wouldn't say that's what scott's posting looks like. guy's been scumread from minute 1 and still is just bebopping around | ||
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On June 09 2024 08:57 AlphaZero wrote: Nothing about this wagon looks like we will lynch mafia. Just saying. there's always sandy xDDDDD | ||
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On June 09 2024 08:58 AlphaZero wrote: Unless you think me and Marv are mafia or the mafia is afk while their buddy gets lynched. Mafia are voting for Kelsier here almost certainly. there's also the world where they're just both town and scum doesn't have to do anything or the world where they'd rather be on a scum lynch cause kelsier's doing jack all and they want to look good when he flips but i take your point | ||
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then i guess we're at an impasse | ||
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but also if i mislynched rayn d1 while he's gone i'd feel like shit :/ | ||
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On June 09 2024 09:07 AlphaZero wrote: Explain where the mafia are voting right now if kelsier is mafia? You think they are bussing day one? you say this like mafia never buss an afk partner on d1. i'm pretty sure i have and i can't be the only one ever in existence | ||
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On June 09 2024 09:12 Mocsta wrote: i buy into this... there is an effort to convey he is up to date, and sufficiently active; yet this outcome in bold still holds. rsoultin or anyone else.. would you agree that reads are mostly the same throughout entire d1 for scott? yeah took a look at the filter and looks like mostly just shifting of where he places his town and scum reads relative to each other though if i missed an actual read change lmk scott | ||
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On June 09 2024 09:12 AlphaZero wrote: Sure they could but it would be dumb, if we say Scott is town and there is a completely viable mislynch that az can take the flak for. ... okay i'm tryna follow your logic. you're saying you think scum would want to paint you in a bad light so they'd all pile onto your scott lynch if he's town and kelsier is scum and then push you as the main proponent of the scott lynch when he flips town, is that what you're getting at? | ||
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On June 09 2024 09:18 Mocsta wrote: one underlying issue i have with scott is that when he was getting heat and i backed him, he made some posts that soft buddied to me.. which i thought was completely reasonable if town. my issue therefore is that, as my read with AZ has shifted and evolved, hes not paid attention (publicly at least) to it.. no comments or impact on scotts AZ read is very weird to me. now scott says hes completely up to date, so its been read, and apparently not relevant - so again. i find this super super weird and struggling to identify how town would do that. i'm confused are you saying that your read on az should make scott read az town if he's town? | ||
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On June 09 2024 09:28 rsoultin wrote: ... okay i'm tryna follow your logic. you're saying you think scum would want to paint you in a bad light so they'd all pile onto your scott lynch if he's town and kelsier is scum and then push you as the main proponent of the scott lynch when he flips town, is that what you're getting at? i mean yeah perfect world you'd rather go with the mislynch especially if you can just blame a townie for it later but that might be a little hard if they were lynching him too also it just doesn't matter if the scumteam's largely not voting or there's already a scum on scott | ||
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certainly not when i'm townreading the other wagon i could be wrong on scott and i'm trying to keep an open mind on that, genuinely. the reads not changing much thing is legit it's honestly the only argument i've seen on him that i think is decent (sorry) idk tho which read of his do you think should have changed from a town perspective? | ||
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On June 09 2024 09:45 Mocsta wrote: i am saying scott has a level of trust in me, which means that the mocsta/az interaction going from scum-scum to something else *should* be a meaningful point of discovery yet its not even captured as a point of note, as scott continues go back-forth with az its not even mentioned until prompted by me (timestamps could make it coincidental i guess) tbc, i am not saying scott should townread az because i changed my read. im saying his relation to me should be significant to create a re-evaluation point, like wtf just happened. idk i don't think it's necessarily alignment indicative to not reconsider the person pushing their lynch when others townread them, at least not in a vacuum, unless you have reason to believe that scott in particular would do this as town and not scum? | ||
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On June 09 2024 09:50 Mocsta wrote: i think he should be concerned that his biggest advocate me, shifted my read on az so even though he is suspicious of kelsier, az and ?vivax?, maybe ?sandroba? the answer to this question is a re-evaluation of both me and az... both are lacking i see what you're getting at. i also am townreading az after waffling on him and also have been vocal about not lynching scott. i just dk maybe i'm hard scum-aligning here but i think static reads in general is more concerning than not re-evaluating you or az based on your townread of him specifically | ||
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and then i wifom the shit out of that and ask what scum does seeing a massive wagon on a scummate maybe they're just both town but then i'd kinda expect a more even spread i still wanna lynch sandy -_- idk what i'd do in scott's position as town with his reads on you mocsta, probably want to talk to you about it at least | ||
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On June 09 2024 10:02 Mocsta wrote: thats fine.. although im not aware of any one that has a static read inactives dont count?? no i was still referring to him sorry that wasn't clear | ||
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On June 09 2024 10:16 scott31337 wrote: Let's think here - rsoul. Let's play you are town (which I'm thinking) Let's think I'm town (Which I am) Let's think AZ is mafia (Which I suspect) The Keisl3r lynch makes sense in a way if he's mafia? Right? I feel he's given up. AZ wants to lynch me (town) because his buddy (Mafia) will be lynched otherwise. Get Mafia D1 it's probably GG ! You have the same mindset (or close) as me D1. It seems so weird! Now, I've had a few drinks already tonight (Yes) - So I'm not trying to use any outs. I just might not be fully mindset. okay but mocsta's issue is you haven't discussed az's alignment with him after seeing his townread and mostly i just don't like all these late votes on kelsier's wagon blaaah | ||
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and switch to sandy if y'all go on him while i'm feeding the baby and get back in time i gtg now | ||
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but scott isn't scum so >> \o/ i get to make faces at marv. i consider this a win so this is what a dp towngame looks like. dude, idk if i can tell the difference other than i felt more heard by him this game while i was playing | ||
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On June 21 2024 11:09 Mocsta wrote: you did great town read you so i could trust koshi even though he came in instantly swinging at me. i'm so glad you were town <3 ppl kept saying you weren't and i was making a sad face cause you kept giving me the town feels | ||
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On June 09 2024 07:28 rsoultin wrote: sandy/rayn/kelsier scumteam totally exists in my world but if i talk about rayn truffle will beat me with a bat for mentioning anyone he doesn't think we should/could lynch today which is the first thing that's made me waffle on truffle since he picked up after the early game but honestly i'm too tired to suspect everyone at this point maybe slam or dmb in one of those slots if one's town but i don't think both i'm pretty proud of myself for my d1 play and am going to blow a collective raspberry to all the folks screaming tmi at me this game xDDDD | ||
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