Sweet Summer Mafia - Page 9

On June 14 2024 17:06 Trfel wrote:
die_meatbaby's reads

Vivax is town
rsoultin is maybe town
AlphaZero is maybe mafia?
AlphaZero is mafia, maybe Kelsi3r is mafia?
scott31337 is town
Koshi maybe town
(argument with Vivax spanning several posts, unclear conclusion but seems to indicate Vivax may be mafia)
sandroba, AlphaZero, and Vivax maybe mafia
marvellosity and Koshi town
Mocsta maybe mafia
Vivax maybe mafia
scott31337 town
Koshi town, scott31337 town, Trfel town, sandroba mafia, Mocsta mafia, Vivax mafia, AlphaZero unknown, raynpelikoneet unknown, Alakaslam unknown
sandroba mafia, Vivax unknown
(a few posts tangentially saying that sandroba and Mocsta are mafia)
AlphaZero and someone else (I think Mocsta but maybe scott31337) are mafia (context suggests Mocsta)
AlphaZero or Mocsta is mafia
scott31337 is maybe mafia

Note: die_meatbaby hadn't mentioned anything about Kelsi3r by post #655, but then voted for Kelsi3r in post #1122. In post #1008 die_meatbaby says she isn't happy with both wagons, which I guess matches settling for the better of two suboptimal wagons as the deadline approaches, but eh.

Second note:How can die_meatbaby both think Mocsta is maybe mafia and also be surprised at mafia not killing Mocsta? For her to actually be surprised at mafia not killing Mocsta, that means die_meatbaby thinks Mocsta is a power role, as he claimed. But then die_meatbaby would think that Mocsta is town, not maybe mafia? I know I asked about this before, but it still doesn't make any sense? Die_meatbaby responded that it was because she wasn't sure if the claim is true, and that it's strange that Mocsta didn't die to the night kill. But if she isn't sure if the claim is true, then why wouldn't mafia also be unsure? Why couldn't they just roleblock him? I just struggle to see this from a town perspective.

Third note:The first quote indicates that die_meatbaby finds Mocsta more suspicious than Vivax. The second quote seems very opportunistic, it feels like it's there to justify having voted for Vivax, because conveniently there was a wagon on Vivax at this time.

Fourth note: die_meatbaby's reads this game just feel so repetitive. Let's just look at scumreads, since those are the important ones. She starts out scumreading AlphaZero, and eventually adds sandroba and Mocsta, and then considers Vivax and maybe scott31337 right at the end. That just seems incredibly close-minded for a game in mid day 3.

Add on all the excuses, and the random warning to Oatsmaster not to do something that would make it clear he is mafia, and townreading scott31337 because he looks scummy as town, and I think it's quite reasonable to lynch die_meatbaby here. I could absolutely be wrong, I don't trust my grasp of the game very much right now, but it's the best I've got at this time.

On June 14 2024 17:06 Trfel wrote:
die_meatbaby's reads

Vivax is town
rsoultin is maybe town
AlphaZero is maybe mafia?
AlphaZero is mafia, maybe Kelsi3r is mafia?
scott31337 is town
Koshi maybe town
(argument with Vivax spanning several posts, unclear conclusion but seems to indicate Vivax may be mafia)
sandroba, AlphaZero, and Vivax maybe mafia
marvellosity and Koshi town
Mocsta maybe mafia
Vivax maybe mafia
scott31337 town
Koshi town, scott31337 town, Trfel town, sandroba mafia, Mocsta mafia, Vivax mafia, AlphaZero unknown, raynpelikoneet unknown, Alakaslam unknown
sandroba mafia, Vivax unknown
(a few posts tangentially saying that sandroba and Mocsta are mafia)
AlphaZero and someone else (I think Mocsta but maybe scott31337) are mafia (context suggests Mocsta)
AlphaZero or Mocsta is mafia
scott31337 is maybe mafia

Note: die_meatbaby hadn't mentioned anything about Kelsi3r by post #655, but then voted for Kelsi3r in post #1122. In post #1008 die_meatbaby says she isn't happy with both wagons, which I guess matches settling for the better of two suboptimal wagons as the deadline approaches, but eh.

Second note:How can die_meatbaby both think Mocsta is maybe mafia and also be surprised at mafia not killing Mocsta? For her to actually be surprised at mafia not killing Mocsta, that means die_meatbaby thinks Mocsta is a power role, as he claimed. But then die_meatbaby would think that Mocsta is town, not maybe mafia? I know I asked about this before, but it still doesn't make any sense? Die_meatbaby responded that it was because she wasn't sure if the claim is true, and that it's strange that Mocsta didn't die to the night kill. But if she isn't sure if the claim is true, then why wouldn't mafia also be unsure? Why couldn't they just roleblock him? I just struggle to see this from a town perspective.

Third note:The first quote indicates that die_meatbaby finds Mocsta more suspicious than Vivax. The second quote seems very opportunistic, it feels like it's there to justify having voted for Vivax, because conveniently there was a wagon on Vivax at this time.

Fourth note: die_meatbaby's reads this game just feel so repetitive. Let's just look at scumreads, since those are the important ones. She starts out scumreading AlphaZero, and eventually adds sandroba and Mocsta, and then considers Vivax and maybe scott31337 right at the end. That just seems incredibly close-minded for a game in mid day 3.

Add on all the excuses, and the random warning to Oatsmaster not to do something that would make it clear he is mafia, and townreading scott31337 because he looks scummy as town, and I think it's quite reasonable to lynch die_meatbaby here. I could absolutely be wrong, I don't trust my grasp of the game very much right now, but it's the best I've got at this time.

On June 14 2024 13:49 Trfel wrote:
Oh and I don't think AlphaZero is mafia either. You guys can lynch them if you want, you won't have my vote, but I don't have the energy or confidence to argue against.

I'll just say that I keep telling die_meatbaby why I think she is mafia, other people keep presenting strong reasons why die_meatbaby could be mafia, I keep reaching out to her and asking for help to understand what's going on, and she has been pretty consistently ignoring all of it.

On June 14 2024 20:13 Mocsta wrote:
Really wondering right now if

Sandroba / dmb /vivax can work

Az, trfel put a thought that has lingered in my mind
I do agree with trfel we were collaborating

How did you change your read on me?

It seemed to come about after my n2 case. At least from my perspective.

On June 14 2024 20:17 die_meatbaby wrote:


you can fuck off for real.
everytime I am online and I post something here I GET FUCKING IGNORED. I only get the right to getting an answer if mafia quotes me to take me as misslynch.
N2 I was online 8+ hours straight. You were writing minutes before I came and then not here for this hole time. I offered you to question me somethings. Something what would fucking help you do read me correctly... but no getting ignored from you. You only take my posts when you need them to make your bullshit case because thats already enough to fucking misslynch town DMB. Maybe this fucking town is wrong with everything. when you play like this i should consider to fucking reread your 20 page filter. I have been complitly ignored here. Marv talked to me a bit at least on d1 and in n2 finally some poeple really talked to me Scott, az, Mocstar.... Not even vivax wanted to have a conversation with me.
How the fuck should I show town that I am fucking town if I get ignored all the time.
I made a case. Nobody giving any kind of comment to it.
Only way later when sandroba flipped and like ahhh dmb made case and didn´t vote on sandroba.... yeah because nobody fucking nobody reacted on that case so I thought I would be a only/wasted vote on him!!! I tried to reach out to people here and they go straight off or just not answering me!

On June 14 2024 20:17 die_meatbaby wrote:


you can fuck off for real.
everytime I am online and I post something here I GET FUCKING IGNORED. I only get the right to getting an answer if mafia quotes me to take me as misslynch.
N2 I was online 8+ hours straight. You were writing minutes before I came and then not here for this hole time. I offered you to question me somethings. Something what would fucking help you do read me correctly... but no getting ignored from you. You only take my posts when you need them to make your bullshit case because thats already enough to fucking misslynch town DMB. Maybe this fucking town is wrong with everything. when you play like this i should consider to fucking reread your 20 page filter. I have been complitly ignored here. Marv talked to me a bit at least on d1 and in n2 finally some poeple really talked to me Scott, az, Mocstar.... Not even vivax wanted to have a conversation with me.
How the fuck should I show town that I am fucking town if I get ignored all the time.
I made a case. Nobody giving any kind of comment to it.
Only way later when sandroba flipped and like ahhh dmb made case and didn´t vote on sandroba.... yeah because nobody fucking nobody reacted on that case so I thought I would be a only/wasted vote on him!!! I tried to reach out to people here and they go straight off or just not answering me!

On June 14 2024 20:37 Mocsta wrote:
I'm here next 15mim

I need to filter dive to come.up.with a question

For now.. who is partnered with az?

On June 14 2024 20:40 Koshi wrote:

I was traveling home. Got half a day off because I got to go to a special dentist.

That being said.

I skimmed your posts. Nothing pinged me.

You are still mafia.

I will skim again later. Eating now.

On June 14 2024 20:43 Mocsta wrote:

Hi dmb

You thought the d1 wagon was town town mislynch and threw out as

You have some banter with rsoultin about az and talk about him immediately giving you cold on the neck

What specifically was scummy for you with az day1
Supporting quotes would be handy

On June 14 2024 20:53 Koshi wrote:

I dont need good reasons. You are the least townie out of all players here except maybe Slam.

Also pls dont give me these "always" "everytime" scenarios from the past because I dont remember if what you say is true. And tbh I dont believe it so..

On June 14 2024 20:55 Koshi wrote:
Also this invisible thing is pretty unbelievable to me. You got plenty attention with all your theories in the past. I remember that.

On June 14 2024 20:57 Koshi wrote:

I dont remember you being a good factor for the sandroba lynch. The opposite was true.

On June 10 2024 21:06 die_meatbaby wrote:
rsoultin/koshi
Either rsoultin or koshi have not given me reasons to see them as mafia. Koshi is really activ, trying to solve the game here. He has a lot of townreads but he plays still like a Townkoshi would.

Scott



I think you are right also in older games from he looked scummy in his town games.

Trfl

I thought the same thing kinda suspicious, but I think it was nothing.
Trfls Filter wouldn´t make so much sense when he would be mafia. I could not see with who he would be togther in a team.
For right now I see him as a Townie

Sandroba
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/625928-sweet-summer-mafia?user=sandroba
this is 2 page filter.
he comes in the game starts with giving town reads on trfl, rayn, az, kelshier.
far too early in the game to make so many reads.Then hitting a bit on scott and just going offline for ever. For me this filter is a red flag but maybe things change when he would start to play here again.

IF I am corect with sandro mafia then guys look at this shit and you can call me paranoid but thats something now:
Mocsta
sandro making a few townreads on the people who were activ in the begining but not on mocsta he didn´t get a read


looks like it's such a safe read that it shouldn't be labeled as town right away so as not to stand out directly as teammates
then the next posts felt to me like playing togther


the sandro we never saw sandro again...
what happend was

Mocasta playing normal and calling out that he is jailkeeper and he will save oats n1

I would just love to understand why he didn't die on the first night. If someone blue called you kill them that night as mafia. Why are you still alive? What did Marv do to get himself killed and not the PR?
Are you really blue???? Are you really fucking Town? Or are you playing with sandro?

and why jail oats anyway?
if you are town why are you saving oats. Why is he so Town to you. Why not Koshi, marv people who are strong town and often die early. Why oats?

Or have I already found the team here?

this hole thing fucks my head. Either you fuck with me or the mafia, because it doesn´t make sense to me!

also in the same time i think
Vivax
I think I already explained enough why I think he mafia. But this read could change again.
He is hell of paranoid but in RL right now not in the game, maybe this leads to a false read but when he is playing like this he is def. mafia in my eyes. Then I have the question again why is oats in this involved if my currents reads would be correct

or is oats red and vivax green? I don´t thinks so oats looking more townisch then vivax. I am still unsure how read oats.

AZ
I don´t have a good feeling with him. Feels like he wann kinda lead Town somewhere, but not in a way that is too conspicuous. Still try to figure out if this is DP or Palmar. But I think it´s someone who I have played with already. No read on him right now

Rayn
In every fucking game we have played I have read him wrong. He was town i thought mafia and the other way around. I am still to fucking unsure what to think of him right now. In my head kinda scummy so lets say more townisch because I am always wrong with my read on him.

Slam
to less activ to make a read. It´s anyways always hard to read slam but when he only appears minutes before or after somebody died then I can really not read him


AND YOU ALL CAN CALL ME FUCKING PARANOID FOR THIS SANDRO/ MOCSTAR SHIT BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME SHIT GOING ON BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM

On June 14 2024 20:58 AlphaZero wrote:


Why is he weak town and not mafia In this case???

On June 14 2024 21:05 Koshi wrote:

That case isn't good. It even has a way out for you to not vote sandroba.
And when did you vote sandroba? 4th? When the votes piled on you?

On June 14 2024 21:07 AlphaZero wrote:


The thing is dmb this smells of tmi to me for some reason.

If you are town I really don’t want you to be mislynched again. I want you to have a good time and play the game.

I feel bad for what happened to you in your last game.

But there is literally no reason to defend you right now except the fear I have that you will be mislynched and have a bad time.

That’s it.

So if you are town can you please explain.

1.) why Mocsta or az need to be mafia and why.

2.) what is weird about vivax

3.) who is the last mafia in your eyes

On June 14 2024 21:14 Koshi wrote:
@dmb
I glossed over your posts again.

Literally nothing in there that shows any sign that you convinced yourself about something in the last 100+ hours playing this game.

So sending in second nuke.

You are mafia.