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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2024 02:54 GMT
#4641
On March 08 2024 11:50 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 11:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:42 CopCake wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:36 CopCake wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:33 CopCake wrote:
I have a question

What is more likely to happen?

Assume I am town (I am)

- DP has a gun
- Vivax JK
- Slam cop
- Jacob smith

In the imaginary world DP is town and I am mafia, I think it is obvious they would block DP. (Maybe)

Because then, they have a JK, cop and gunsmith free.

But i know I am town, so mafia WONT block DP,

So, if mafia considers Vivax/Slam or Jacobs actions less important, they are in dip shit because slam can get results, vivax can protect/roleblock and jacob can give guns.

So mafia definetly cant waste their roleblock on DP.


Sorry this might be written weirdly, but just assume is next night.

What happens if I am alive during the day?

:D

We should be getting a report at least from two of the three blue roles (vivax/jacob/slam)

Because mafia stopped the vig shot.

I need to stop this train of thought.
1. Jsl has no night actions, he’s a 1 shot gunsmith and he’s given it out
2. If vivax JKs slam, slam doesn’t get a check making his role useless

So mafia absolutely can use their rb on dp in this scenario


Oh <~< I believed it was a every night action, nevermind

Let’s get focused here,
What would you like to see from me before I get lynched. How can I help you


I think it is better if you ask from “more experienced” players.

My playstyle is not exactly the best cup of tea.

I wanna know what I can provide for you lol
No gg, No skill.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 08 2024 02:54 GMT
#4642
On March 08 2024 11:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 11:49 iamperfection wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:42 CopCake wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:36 CopCake wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:33 CopCake wrote:
I have a question

What is more likely to happen?

Assume I am town (I am)

- DP has a gun
- Vivax JK
- Slam cop
- Jacob smith

In the imaginary world DP is town and I am mafia, I think it is obvious they would block DP. (Maybe)

Because then, they have a JK, cop and gunsmith free.

But i know I am town, so mafia WONT block DP,

So, if mafia considers Vivax/Slam or Jacobs actions less important, they are in dip shit because slam can get results, vivax can protect/roleblock and jacob can give guns.

So mafia definetly cant waste their roleblock on DP.


Sorry this might be written weirdly, but just assume is next night.

What happens if I am alive during the day?

:D

We should be getting a report at least from two of the three blue roles (vivax/jacob/slam)

Because mafia stopped the vig shot.

I need to stop this train of thought.
1. Jsl has no night actions, he’s a 1 shot gunsmith and he’s given it out
2. If vivax JKs slam, slam doesn’t get a check making his role useless

So mafia absolutely can use their rb on dp in this scenario


Oh <~< I believed it was a every night action, nevermind

Let’s get focused here,
What would you like to see from me before I get lynched. How can I help you

you could try to do a meta analysis of yourself.

This is my second game in the past like 7 years lol

how much does a person really change lets be honest.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2024 02:55 GMT
#4643
On March 08 2024 11:51 iamperfection wrote:
its what i would do if i had an incorrect check.

That’s also because your mafia meta is so divergent from your town meta lol
No gg, No skill.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 08 2024 02:56 GMT
#4644
On March 08 2024 11:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 11:51 iamperfection wrote:
its what i would do if i had an incorrect check.

That’s also because your mafia meta is so divergent from your town meta lol

it aint that different i try to keep it up. Its just hard.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2024 02:56 GMT
#4645
On March 08 2024 11:54 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 11:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:49 iamperfection wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:42 CopCake wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:36 CopCake wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:33 CopCake wrote:
I have a question

What is more likely to happen?

Assume I am town (I am)

- DP has a gun
- Vivax JK
- Slam cop
- Jacob smith

In the imaginary world DP is town and I am mafia, I think it is obvious they would block DP. (Maybe)

Because then, they have a JK, cop and gunsmith free.

But i know I am town, so mafia WONT block DP,

So, if mafia considers Vivax/Slam or Jacobs actions less important, they are in dip shit because slam can get results, vivax can protect/roleblock and jacob can give guns.

So mafia definetly cant waste their roleblock on DP.


Sorry this might be written weirdly, but just assume is next night.

What happens if I am alive during the day?

:D

We should be getting a report at least from two of the three blue roles (vivax/jacob/slam)

Because mafia stopped the vig shot.

I need to stop this train of thought.
1. Jsl has no night actions, he’s a 1 shot gunsmith and he’s given it out
2. If vivax JKs slam, slam doesn’t get a check making his role useless

So mafia absolutely can use their rb on dp in this scenario


Oh <~< I believed it was a every night action, nevermind

Let’s get focused here,
What would you like to see from me before I get lynched. How can I help you

you could try to do a meta analysis of yourself.

This is my second game in the past like 7 years lol

how much does a person really change lets be honest.

I’ll see if I have the time after I finish looking at the remaining ppl that I wanna look at including dmb
No gg, No skill.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 08 2024 02:57 GMT
#4646
On March 08 2024 11:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On March 08 2024 11:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 07 2024 23:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 07 2024 23:45 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

Oatsmaster (10): Alakaslam, Jealous, JacobStrangelove, Rels, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, CopCake, Justanothertownie
die_meatbaby (1): Oatsmaster
VisceraEyes (0): iamperfection
CopCake (0): Jealous

Not Voting (6): Vivax, marvellosity, Palmar, Koshi, ToTheStars, VisceraEyes

With 10 votes, Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Saturday, Mar 09 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in



Given the non-voter list rn, I'm not convinced scum is just gonna roll with the red check and move on. I still think there's a chance we see someone try and make #bigplays today which is why I'm so against having this continued discussion on the slam check. Especially since there are people who have called it a good lynch and then not voted for it.

Wow, called this shit out 11 hours ago.

You ever gonna tell us who the someone is? It ain’t koshi he ain’t posting shit right now

Who has done it since this morning
On March 08 2024 00:51 iamperfection wrote:
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On March 08 2024 00:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
I’m fully expecting mafia to skate by today on the “it’s oats let’s pick this up day 3” and waste today

Want to vote tts?

This is the first one, idk how I missed this
On March 08 2024 06:27 Koshi wrote:
I still think we shouldnt lynch Oats.
Rels/MZ/VE maybe Palmar are all better lynches.
They didnt care during night. Dont care now.

MZ just tried to be relevant today dancing with me but it isnt real scumhunting.

I also havent done anything but you know... most think I am town because I am pretty townie overall.

Rels
MZ
VE
Jacob
Palmar

This one was the one I first noticed, maybe bc he said my name lmao
On March 08 2024 07:22 Vivax wrote:
I honestly have a really good argument for why Oats isn‘t mafia actually. But it requires you to believe he‘d be good enough to think about it.

Vivax doing it
On March 08 2024 07:25 Vivax wrote:
I‘m actually not going to vote him.

Bc of the lack of a bodyguard claim? I don’t understand it but I think youre town still so w/e
On March 08 2024 07:27 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 07:23 Vivax wrote:
If Oats was mafia he could claim bodyguard.
That‘d make it easier to survive the check and pulls more info for scum if they can‘t stop the lynch.

????? Claiming bodyguard is meaningless.

Even perfection disagrees and he was the one who stared this mess
On March 08 2024 07:43 Vivax wrote:
Marv is mafia, anyway.

He should be here dumping everything they discussed before his masons got killed, and taking control and he isn‘t doing either.

I‘d lynch him before Oats.

##Vote marvellosity

Ok I don’t hate the read but I ahte the vote
Perfection and DP agree
On March 08 2024 09:01 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 08 2024 08:57 Vivax wrote:
On March 08 2024 08:55 marvellosity wrote:
On March 08 2024 07:43 Vivax wrote:
Marv is mafia, anyway.

He should be here dumping everything they discussed before his masons got killed, and taking control and he isn‘t doing either.

I‘d lynch him before Oats.

##Vote marvellosity

I’ve alluded to most of it. Rayn discord was quite quiet, the main highlight was seeing a pic from artanis’ wedding and being made to guess who is who. And talking him down off Copcake which I may or may not regret.

Sandro discord was very active. We talked about palmar, MZ, Rels, JSL (I got excited about sandro’s read but the claim seems to have scotched that). Sandro thought Koshi was very town as he aligned with him on a bunch of stuff. We talked about MZ, specifically the posts at the end of his first page of filter and the first page of 2nd filter. Sandro had said he wrote MZ off as town for a while after that. We sort of concluded it would be a ballsy scumplay but that MZ could make it. We also talked about MZ stance on town deciding the mayor lynch, sandro talked about how it was quite an old school view what MZ said about it and we left it there.

We both thought VE was scummy.

I asked sandro to talk palmar off of rayn if sandro was alive. Obviously that sort of resolved itself. And I am aware that makes it sound like I think palmar is town, but it’s more complicated than that. The act of sandro talking to palmar would have been revealing.

Jealous town, CC town.


So if we ignore Oats you‘d want to do VE or MZ today ?
Do you think it‘s a good idea to follow the redcheck when Oats is still looking townie?

I would have voted VE.

The oats thing is mathematical. If you read him as over 90% town, great. Over 90 is a very high threshold though. I’m actually a very hedgy townie unless I’m super sure.

I just don’t know that it’s the right play to not lynch oats even though my personal read is town.

Hold marv to this one if the vote is for VE tomorrow and he doesn’t get onboard. Whats funny about this post is that marv also decides to do the thing he said scum would do and just go along with the oats lynch.
On March 08 2024 10:18 Vivax wrote:
Jat, Koshi, Ve, DP, Rels could be a thing

You know vivax when I first caught up it seemed like koshi was driving this train but now that im quoting everything it seems like you are one of the main drivers
On March 08 2024 10:36 iamperfection wrote:
Oats i think he might be town to be quite honest. Just a feeling the way he has acted but ive always liked oats so could be a bias of mine.

Iamp back at it again

Then I caught up to the thread after getting back home. You’re right vivax, koshi hasn’t been a factor since I left the thread this morning. I think I let my frustrations from this morning carry over to now. Hes still done what I said he did, just not recently. Unfortunately I don’t think I cans scum read you for this, your just dumb. And While marv called oats town he dd say to stick the course on the lynch. Iamp is the one I missed tbh. Also This does not clear marv in anyway, if anything I find it funny hes now doing what he said scum would do and just go along with the lynch.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22088 Posts
March 08 2024 02:58 GMT
#4647
On March 08 2024 11:54 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 11:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:49 iamperfection wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:42 CopCake wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:36 CopCake wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:33 CopCake wrote:
I have a question

What is more likely to happen?

Assume I am town (I am)

- DP has a gun
- Vivax JK
- Slam cop
- Jacob smith

In the imaginary world DP is town and I am mafia, I think it is obvious they would block DP. (Maybe)

Because then, they have a JK, cop and gunsmith free.

But i know I am town, so mafia WONT block DP,

So, if mafia considers Vivax/Slam or Jacobs actions less important, they are in dip shit because slam can get results, vivax can protect/roleblock and jacob can give guns.

So mafia definetly cant waste their roleblock on DP.


Sorry this might be written weirdly, but just assume is next night.

What happens if I am alive during the day?

:D

We should be getting a report at least from two of the three blue roles (vivax/jacob/slam)

Because mafia stopped the vig shot.

I need to stop this train of thought.
1. Jsl has no night actions, he’s a 1 shot gunsmith and he’s given it out
2. If vivax JKs slam, slam doesn’t get a check making his role useless

So mafia absolutely can use their rb on dp in this scenario


Oh <~< I believed it was a every night action, nevermind

Let’s get focused here,
What would you like to see from me before I get lynched. How can I help you

you could try to do a meta analysis of yourself.

This is my second game in the past like 7 years lol

how much does a person really change lets be honest.


Depends on environment and lifestyle.
If you move to another country it‘s impossible not to.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 08 2024 03:01 GMT
#4648
On March 07 2024 22:34 justanothertownie wrote:
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On March 07 2024 22:18 Rels wrote:
On March 07 2024 20:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 07 2024 13:17 Rels wrote:
JAT I would really like an answer on this. Not really my defense on the shitty case, but the last part. I don't understand how what you wrote makes it so one of Palmar/me have to be scum

On March 07 2024 11:54 Rels wrote:
On March 06 2024 21:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Rels:
On March 06 2024 08:53 Rels wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:49 Palmar wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:49 Rels wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:45 DarthPunk wrote:
[quote]


It's a stark difference to his level last game.

He posted a bit at the start of the game, got town read and noped out.

But hey, you can vote Jat with me if you want instead, or propose something else.

Will try to filter JAT before I have to go

I mean you could just go

LOL
I really have a hard time understanding this:
On March 06 2024 08:30 Rels wrote:
"I really, really, really don't think marv just tries to kill me without even talking about it." => then 1 hour later "Wait you still think I'm mafia?"

?????

I don't know if there is any explanation you could give that would satisfy me, but, maybe try?

He seems very very sure about Palmar being mafia. So that is fine as long as the wagon had steam. After it died town we see this:
On March 06 2024 09:02 Rels wrote:
Finished reading JAT's filter, DP anything what was the thing(s) you saw that was not smart? I thought it was pretty empty for sure, didn't see any red flag though.

On March 06 2024 09:08 Rels wrote:
On March 05 2024 20:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Apparently people are dead set on making Vivax mayor. They cannot all be mafia even though I would bet a lot of money that mafia is on board.
The logic apparently being Vivax wouldn't make such a bad play as mafia. The disconnect here is that he did the bad play regardless of his alignment but for some reason only town can be bad in people's minds. I disagree with that but I really don't know what to do about it except for complaining and offering a better alternative which is koshi right now. What am I supposed to do in your opinion, rayn?

Yeah I guess this post from the sandroba case is pretty lackluster

Does not seem very strong either way. So I am not entirely sure how we arrive at this:
On March 06 2024 09:10 Rels wrote:
Gotta go. I would say out of the options I have, my preference would be Palmar > JAT > random lurker (out of those, I still think TTS has the highest chance of flipping scum)

Still think Trfel is town, I would prefer any random lurker over him

But that is finde. What is not fine is that he isn't bothered at all that he is pushing for the same lynch as his top scumread Palmar. So, do we believe Rels just throws all of his conviction out of the window to vote me with his one scumread based on a townread that is at best "weak"?
On March 06 2024 08:46 Rels wrote:
On March 05 2024 21:30 Koshi wrote:
On March 05 2024 11:13 sandroba wrote:
On March 05 2024 10:58 DarthPunk wrote:
[quote]

Hard disagree. I find people who just accept it for what it is and make the correct play in regards to him is townie.

The scummy thing is talking around in circles about how shit vivax’s claim was, that he might not be town or if he is he is not confirmed

It’s a huge waste of time and shits up the thread and is also incredibly easy content to fake.

I found palmars approach to the situation very townie for example

Are you still lock town on trfel btw?

Didn't see much of people saying he might not be town. Shitting up the thread discussing the claim being bad I agree, CopCake is the main person I saw driving the discussion back to that.
I think saying he is prob town and prob not the best mayor, at least initially is the reaction I would expect from townies. Remember, even though scum might not want something, it's hard to actually push something when you think it would be obvious anti-town. Scum wants to hide and push things in a subtle way.
Not locked town on trfel since he hasn't been very active, but wouldn't lynch him d1 in a million years. What he has posted so far after the initial setup-focused posts looked super townie to me.

I really really really don't see that.
Last game I was so sure he was town.
What is he doing here? Everytime he gets pressured he moves away from it. Slam asks him about Oats. He gives a good answer but it lacks conviction. It looks way more as a mafia seeing Town!Oats be inquisitive than a townie figuring out Town!Oats is inquisitive.
Slam then pressures on and while replying to somebody else he @slam and disengages with him.

This can't be the same Tfrel as last game? You went 4 days with him. Under pressure by marv/DP/rayn iirc. This looks the same to you? I should follow your lead on him but it seems impossible.

The posts that made me think Trfel was townie at the beginning of the game, he showed some conviction:
On March 04 2024 13:19 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 13:11 DarthPunk wrote:
MZ could be mafia here.

That associative push with me/vivax is really out there. And usually I am the one defending him from being misylnched by all the bads.
Sorry I keep doing this, but why do you think that makes Meapak_Ziphh mafia? I don't see why that reasoning is more likely to come from mafia, if anything I think it's the opposite.

On March 04 2024 13:20 Trfel wrote:
I'm actually going to double down and say that I think Meapak_Ziphh is town. Thus, I'm very surprised that he seems to be your top scumread, DarthPunk.

Looking at the Slam question on Oats, it's this right?
On March 05 2024 04:34 Trfel wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:32 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:29 Trfel wrote:
[quote]Honestly it feels a bit weak to me. But he's posted so little it's just hard to say.

@Alakaslam, that wasn't really how I would characterise Oatsmaster's play, but I suppose it's up to interpretation.

So how do you?

He just asks "why do you say that" and however honest the reply, just says "that makes no sense" unless it's someone he respects.

Partly, I can get that, but have you NEVER seen aggro scum pursue mislynch opportunities?

What about Oatsmaster's play has been different from that?
To me he's actually seemed to care and is involved. He truly seems interested in his approach, even if that approach is a bit different from mine, it makes me think he is trying to figure out the game.

On March 05 2024 04:47 Trfel wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:38 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:34 Trfel wrote:
[quote]To me he's actually seemed to care and is involved. He truly seems interested in his approach, even if that approach is a bit different from mine, it makes me think he is trying to figure out the game.

Caring about what exactly?

Because if he cares to find actual scum, this pursuit of perfection doesn't seem to be a surefire way to me.

He was not far from lynching our cop, for example, for being a bit logically inconsistent- in Oatsmaster's mind.

I think Oats may suffer from some difficulty with theory of mind if he is town here, which I could relate to. In which case I would go right back from a growing SR to a TR.
I'm not confident enough in my read to be interested in defending Oatsmaster here, it's just the impression I got from his posts, which could be wrong. I will say though that whether or not his play is helpful doesn't matter as much as whether or not he truly thinks it is helpful.

I guess it's pretty weak conviction yeah. Don't think it's enough by itself to make him scumread him, let alone be my preferred lynch right now.

No issue at all it seems. Leads me to think between Rels and Palmar there is at least 1 mafia.

1 - At the time I voted you, the choice was between Trfel and you, and I somewhat townread Trfel
2 - Not voting you because of an associative reason D1 is dumb. I don't have a team comprising X number of mafia in my head, not at this stage of the game
Leads me to think between Rels and Palmar there is at least 1 mafia.

???? Why does anything you wrote there point to this?


Sure, you are right - the last part is not a conclusion of the findings in this post alone. You need to put it into context with the one about palmar I wrote just before this one. I think it is likely, that there is a mafia between you. Like rayn, I wouldn't even rule out that you are both.

You're saying this but I still don't get it even taking the Palmar case in consideration. It's nothing more than "I scumread Palmar and Rels so there must be one scum between them in my worldview"? Or if it's something, can you summarize it in one sentence?

No, it is not only that (but of course also true). First of all you were very convinced he is mafia. Since I consider you a good player that makes it more likely he is mafia if you are not. Second you had 0 issue to switch with him onto my wagon while being this convinced about him. Which is what triggered rayn so hard. Made the most sense to him if you are both mafia and you were pushing your buddy for a reason you genuinely believe makes him scum but I think you could also do it if he is town and you want your vote to look relevant. Forgetting that you probably should not uncritically follow your #1 mafia read onto his preferred wagon.

OK, I can see the last bit make sense
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 08 2024 03:03 GMT
#4649
On March 08 2024 07:43 Vivax wrote:
Marv is mafia, anyway.

He should be here dumping everything they discussed before his masons got killed, and taking control and he isn‘t doing either.

I‘d lynch him before Oats.

##Vote marvellosity

How serious are you about this vote?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 03:04 GMT
#4650
On March 08 2024 11:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 11:50 CopCake wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:42 CopCake wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:36 CopCake wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:33 CopCake wrote:
I have a question

What is more likely to happen?

Assume I am town (I am)

- DP has a gun
- Vivax JK
- Slam cop
- Jacob smith

In the imaginary world DP is town and I am mafia, I think it is obvious they would block DP. (Maybe)

Because then, they have a JK, cop and gunsmith free.

But i know I am town, so mafia WONT block DP,

So, if mafia considers Vivax/Slam or Jacobs actions less important, they are in dip shit because slam can get results, vivax can protect/roleblock and jacob can give guns.

So mafia definetly cant waste their roleblock on DP.


Sorry this might be written weirdly, but just assume is next night.

What happens if I am alive during the day?

:D

We should be getting a report at least from two of the three blue roles (vivax/jacob/slam)

Because mafia stopped the vig shot.

I need to stop this train of thought.
1. Jsl has no night actions, he’s a 1 shot gunsmith and he’s given it out
2. If vivax JKs slam, slam doesn’t get a check making his role useless

So mafia absolutely can use their rb on dp in this scenario


Oh <~< I believed it was a every night action, nevermind

Let’s get focused here,
What would you like to see from me before I get lynched. How can I help you


I think it is better if you ask from “more experienced” players.

My playstyle is not exactly the best cup of tea.

I wanna know what I can provide for you lol


I think this will help town

Is Palmar mafia?

If so, did his scum buddies tried to save him?

Why not start a lynch on cake? I was a scum read at the time, only “strong” players that protected me where koshi and marv.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 03:06 GMT
#4651
Consider factors like

Trfel had ZERO votes

Idr Jat

Why was tfrel considered a policy lynch and not TTS for example?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22088 Posts
March 08 2024 03:06 GMT
#4652
On March 08 2024 12:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 07:43 Vivax wrote:
Marv is mafia, anyway.

He should be here dumping everything they discussed before his masons got killed, and taking control and he isn‘t doing either.

I‘d lynch him before Oats.

##Vote marvellosity

How serious are you about this vote?


I think 4 mafia were on Trfel now. Marv can wait
My vote is on jat.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 08 2024 03:06 GMT
#4653
On March 08 2024 10:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax I helped you become mayor, so I feel I have a responsibility to keep you on track.

So when you do dumb shit I am going to block you every time until I die.

If you don't want to lynch Oats today that is fine, I will lynch Cake who is confirmed fucking mafia and then we can lynch oats tomorrow.

You may be mayor right now but i am in control of this fucking thread.

Much this, ironically I might even follow onto that train
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 08 2024 03:09 GMT
#4654
On March 08 2024 10:36 iamperfection wrote:
Oats i think he might be town to be quite honest. Just a feeling the way he has acted but ive always liked oats so could be a bias of mine.

I feel like GLaDOS listening to Cave Johnson every time Iamperfection writes.

I may not be the playstyle he likes, but hopefully he can accept that I do like his. And find it quite sheepable.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2024 03:09 GMT
#4655
On March 08 2024 12:04 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 11:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:50 CopCake wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:42 CopCake wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:36 CopCake wrote:
On March 08 2024 11:33 CopCake wrote:
I have a question

What is more likely to happen?

Assume I am town (I am)

- DP has a gun
- Vivax JK
- Slam cop
- Jacob smith

In the imaginary world DP is town and I am mafia, I think it is obvious they would block DP. (Maybe)

Because then, they have a JK, cop and gunsmith free.

But i know I am town, so mafia WONT block DP,

So, if mafia considers Vivax/Slam or Jacobs actions less important, they are in dip shit because slam can get results, vivax can protect/roleblock and jacob can give guns.

So mafia definetly cant waste their roleblock on DP.


Sorry this might be written weirdly, but just assume is next night.

What happens if I am alive during the day?

:D

We should be getting a report at least from two of the three blue roles (vivax/jacob/slam)

Because mafia stopped the vig shot.

I need to stop this train of thought.
1. Jsl has no night actions, he’s a 1 shot gunsmith and he’s given it out
2. If vivax JKs slam, slam doesn’t get a check making his role useless

So mafia absolutely can use their rb on dp in this scenario


Oh <~< I believed it was a every night action, nevermind

Let’s get focused here,
What would you like to see from me before I get lynched. How can I help you


I think it is better if you ask from “more experienced” players.

My playstyle is not exactly the best cup of tea.

I wanna know what I can provide for you lol


I think this will help town

Is Palmar mafia?

If so, did his scum buddies tried to save him?

Why not start a lynch on cake? I was a scum read at the time, only “strong” players that protected me where koshi and marv.

Mmm okay this is a good idea
No gg, No skill.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 08 2024 03:11 GMT
#4656
On March 08 2024 10:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
You can't all be scum, some of you just have to be dumb. The tricky part is figuring out which is which.

God damn it I am waffling now seeing this.

Dumb or pliable, at least one describes me.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 03:12 GMT
#4657
On March 08 2024 12:06 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 10:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax I helped you become mayor, so I feel I have a responsibility to keep you on track.

So when you do dumb shit I am going to block you every time until I die.

If you don't want to lynch Oats today that is fine, I will lynch Cake who is confirmed fucking mafia and then we can lynch oats tomorrow.

You may be mayor right now but i am in control of this fucking thread.

Much this, ironically I might even follow onto that train




You really think I am mafia?

I am sorry, I am not. When you see me town let it be known you broke my cheesecake heart.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 08 2024 03:17 GMT
#4658
On March 08 2024 12:06 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 12:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 08 2024 07:43 Vivax wrote:
Marv is mafia, anyway.

He should be here dumping everything they discussed before his masons got killed, and taking control and he isn‘t doing either.

I‘d lynch him before Oats.

##Vote marvellosity

How serious are you about this vote?


I think 4 mafia were on Trfel now. Marv can wait
My vote is on jat.

What has pushed JAT ahead of Marv in your eyes?

I finally did a decent read of JAT and I think I know why youve got some of the reads the way they are
i dont think you're 100% right but I might be understanding someo f your thought process
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2024 03:18 GMT
#4659
I’ll be back in a couple hours
No gg, No skill.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10228 Posts
March 08 2024 03:26 GMT
#4660
On March 08 2024 12:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 12:06 Vivax wrote:
On March 08 2024 12:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 08 2024 07:43 Vivax wrote:
Marv is mafia, anyway.

He should be here dumping everything they discussed before his masons got killed, and taking control and he isn‘t doing either.

I‘d lynch him before Oats.

##Vote marvellosity

How serious are you about this vote?


I think 4 mafia were on Trfel now. Marv can wait
My vote is on jat.

What has pushed JAT ahead of Marv in your eyes?

I finally did a decent read of JAT and I think I know why youve got some of the reads the way they are
i dont think you're 100% right but I might be understanding someo f your thought process

Could you elaborate with examples please? Helps me TR people when people say more than "this is what I believe now because of stuff." Listing quotes and links and stuff. I know you did this before, and this take can use some of that IMO.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
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