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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 25 2023 15:13 GMT
#341
On August 26 2023 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I would appreciate if you three, koshi/marv/iamp would get on the same page on this, because i value all of your opinion if youre town (and it would be telling if youre not). Because right now:
- marv understands point, says it doesnt make LS mafia
- koshi says LS disnt do it at all
- iamp doesnt understand point


at its core why would playing slightly different then supposed meta make him mafia. i dont think it does
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 25 2023 15:14 GMT
#342
My reference to the pictures could be better but the point is somewhat clear.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 25 2023 15:15 GMT
#343
My point is:
- LSreada people by meta
- LS read Koshi based on meta that is insufficent
- LS should know this as he reads people by meta, aka as if i go through thread checking for inconsistancies of thinking, LS goes through past games checking whats comparable or not to this game
- LS sefintely didnt do this properly at all
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 25 2023 15:17 GMT
#344
On August 26 2023 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My point is:
- LSreada people by meta
- LS read Koshi based on meta that is insufficent
- LS should know this as he reads people by meta, aka as if i go through thread checking for inconsistancies of thinking, LS goes through past games checking whats comparable or not to this game
- LS sefintely didnt do this properly at all

How do you not understand that not having done something does not remove the fact somebody would more likely do x over y.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 25 2023 15:22 GMT
#345
On August 26 2023 00:17 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My point is:
- LSreada people by meta
- LS read Koshi based on meta that is insufficent
- LS should know this as he reads people by meta, aka as if i go through thread checking for inconsistancies of thinking, LS goes through past games checking whats comparable or not to this game
- LS sefintely didnt do this properly at all

How do you not understand that not having done something does not remove the fact somebody would more likely do x over y.

I completely understand that, however LS didnt say that at all in the first post, whoch he should have done if he thought that genuinely.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 25 2023 15:24 GMT
#346
If he said "i dont think Koshi would do this more likely as mafia than as town and as he has not done this as mafia ever i think he is town" in first place, i would be completely fine with the read.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 25 2023 15:26 GMT
#347
On August 25 2023 22:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys. Marv, Rayn, and Koshi so far looks town from what I had read. Marv because his attitude seems a bit different from last game. Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he wouldnt do that as mafia. Rayn because he actually trying to move things forward and trying to actually solve the game.

On August 25 2023 22:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Nope not that I remember but I think it's more town indicated of him though.

@rayn: I changed a word. Would that have be fine? Or does this still makes LS mafia?
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 15:26 GMT
#348
On August 26 2023 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 00:17 Koshi wrote:
On August 26 2023 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My point is:
- LSreada people by meta
- LS read Koshi based on meta that is insufficent
- LS should know this as he reads people by meta, aka as if i go through thread checking for inconsistancies of thinking, LS goes through past games checking whats comparable or not to this game
- LS sefintely didnt do this properly at all

How do you not understand that not having done something does not remove the fact somebody would more likely do x over y.

I completely understand that, however LS didnt say that at all in the first post, whoch he should have done if he thought that genuinely.

And this circles back round to - if you’re gonna lynch him for that, you’ll lynch him every game
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 25 2023 15:28 GMT
#349
his last game he made points about posts feeling forced and people making a big deal out of nothing that's not " meta" reads.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 25 2023 15:29 GMT
#350
On August 26 2023 00:26 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys. Marv, Rayn, and Koshi so far looks town from what I had read. Marv because his attitude seems a bit different from last game. Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he wouldnt do that as mafia. Rayn because he actually trying to move things forward and trying to actually solve the game.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Nope not that I remember but I think it's more town indicated of him though.

@rayn: I changed a word. Would that have be fine? Or does this still makes LS mafia?

No. Not for LS. His level of explaing his reads is way above that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 25 2023 15:31 GMT
#351
But okay, you can talk about something else.
We'll see later.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 25 2023 16:08 GMT
#352
iamp vivax LS

Good enough for me tbh
I had a good night of sleep.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
August 25 2023 17:02 GMT
#353
Hello Europe!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
mathenalin
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom120 Posts
August 25 2023 17:09 GMT
#354
I also have an evening of drinking and board games but I hope to post sporadically later on.

If I had to share a list of town/wouldn't lynch with some surface level reasons
VE - town for reasons earlier.

Rayn - I've agreed with a lot of his posts, I think the line of questioning on LS was reasonable.

Marv - He's a strong player he's given some good tempered responses that give a new perspective. his defence of LS and myself from Darth was good in a situation where he could have ignored it or added pressure. He has also been given some soft town reads from other players.

Koshi - Defended LS when he didn't have to, i feel like he's been more active than most.

Darth - This is tricky as I don't want to be like "you called me scummy so fuck you"... Maybe that's why he attacked me after I spoke out on his weak marv points. I feel like his push on LS came after other people had already questioned LS but it seems to be for different reasons so. Maybe it feels like going for low hanging fruit with the new guy and then LS who made a weak entry....I'm rambling here.
Either way I can't tell if Darth is scummy or just having a slightly different town game to me. being a very active but maybe less logical. He is driving things forward and giving thoughts and information out so I wouldn't want to lynch him today.

There is a lack of activity from several players, I haven't evaluated people with less than a page of filter. I didn't like Vivax or the LS entry. LS might be a good lynch as with the game split it would give some potential information.

marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 17:24 GMT
#355
On August 26 2023 02:02 Chezinu wrote:
Hello Europe!

Hello, studmuffin
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 25 2023 18:03 GMT
#356
!eporuE olleH
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 25 2023 18:14 GMT
#357
marv what's your read on iamp and if you don't have any, do you think you should have one based on his posting?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 25 2023 18:18 GMT
#358
On August 25 2023 21:45 Chezinu wrote:
Anyone want to Tango?

On August 25 2023 21:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Salsa instead?

MMMMMANGO SALSA
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 25 2023 18:22 GMT
#359
On August 26 2023 03:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv what's your read on iamp and if you don't have any, do you think you should have one based on his posting?

what a stupid question after the initial one lol :D
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 25 2023 18:23 GMT
#360
On August 26 2023 00:13 Koshi wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
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+ Show Spoiler +
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+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


LS: I think picture 1 would prefer to eat picture 2.
Somebody: But did you ever see picture one eat any of the 2?
LS: No I don't think I have
rayn: AMAGAD CONTRADICTION

YAS
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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