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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 14:42 GMT
#321
Why is marv LS whisperer??
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 14:43 GMT
#322
Can you explain, marv why what i said about LS shouldnt ske him mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 14:43 GMT
#323
Ske = make,

I hate playing on phone..
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
August 25 2023 14:44 GMT
#324
Im not getting huge scum vibes from LS early vibes. I felt the same thing about his forced ai point about jacob. Since i had already made those jokes sort of before the game and at the start.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 25 2023 14:46 GMT
#325
On August 25 2023 23:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 23:05 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Particularly:
"Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia."
"Has koshi tried to get himself lynched before as either alignment?"
"Nope not that I remember"

He believes I wouldnt openly want to get lynched as mafia.
He believes I never openly said I want to get lynched as either alignment.

There is no contradiction.

We have to agree to disagree here then. Because what i see is a player who bases their reads (especially early on) fully and completely to meta. The first post would be fine if he just said "i dont think Koshi would want to get lynched as mafia like this", but instead he bases it on a meta on Koshi where Koshi has never wanted to be lynched as mafia. This does not go well with the fact that his meta suggests that "Koshi doesn't do that as any alignment". Aka it should be a null tell for him, and especially the first post he made suggesests that he should not have that conclusion about Koshi's alignment based on what he gives as a reasoning.

On August 25 2023 22:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys. Marv, Rayn, and Koshi so far looks town from what I had read. Marv because his attitude seems a bit different from last game. Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia. Rayn because he actually trying to move things forward and trying to actually solve the game.

On August 25 2023 22:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Nope not that I remember but I think it's more town indicated of him though.

LS was mafia in my last game and I wouldn't have guessed it on D1. So I will take your read in consideration but to me it seems he makes a meta read that I wouldn't do it as mafia. Not because I never did it, but that I wouldn't do it based on my previous playstyle as mafia.

He also elaborated it like that when pressed so story checks out.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 14:47 GMT
#326
On August 25 2023 23:44 iamperfection wrote:
Im not getting huge scum vibes from LS early vibes. I felt the same thing about his forced ai point about jacob. Since i had already made those jokes sort of before the game and at the start.

So why does a player who plays only by meta early on contradict his own meta read on someone?

Do tou have an answer for that for a townie?
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mathenalin
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom120 Posts
August 25 2023 14:47 GMT
#327
On August 25 2023 21:31 die_meatbaby wrote:
Hey good morning guys. I didn't read the thread yet. Still nice to see you all again.

Bruh
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
August 25 2023 14:51 GMT
#328
On August 25 2023 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 23:44 iamperfection wrote:
Im not getting huge scum vibes from LS early vibes. I felt the same thing about his forced ai point about jacob. Since i had already made those jokes sort of before the game and at the start.

So why does a player who plays only by meta early on contradict his own meta read on someone?

Do tou have an answer for that for a townie?

is that even true. Seems like a flawed way to play to me. I doubt its true.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 14:53 GMT
#329
On August 25 2023 23:51 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2023 23:44 iamperfection wrote:
Im not getting huge scum vibes from LS early vibes. I felt the same thing about his forced ai point about jacob. Since i had already made those jokes sort of before the game and at the start.

So why does a player who plays only by meta early on contradict his own meta read on someone?

Do tou have an answer for that for a townie?

is that even true. Seems like a flawed way to play to me. I doubt its true.

Are you reading the game?
If you are you should be able to tell if its true or not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 14:54 GMT
#330
I can tell you though that 95% of LS reads are based purelyon meta, when he is town.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 14:59 GMT
#331
On August 25 2023 23:22 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 23:17 marvellosity wrote:
Not really. Why?


You are the LS whisperer apparently.

I didn't like how he used IRL to exit the thread as soon as he was under pressure.

Reminds me of the last time he was mafia.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:54 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the ChatGPT thing from Jacob was forced?


Also, this: very disconnected from the thread, no one thinks this so why is he asking this? the position on Jacob generally is slight town read.

It's like a halfhearted effort to change the direction of the discourse from himself, to like the most out their topic before he nopes out of the thread.

I’m not gonna tell anyone how to read LS. But for me:
1. Is he invested?
2. Do his emotional reactions seem genuine?

Are what I’m looking for. Sure LS could be mafia (although I have no reason to think so currently), but I think if you’re gonna lynch him for inconsistencies or disconnected from what’s going on in the thread right now, or thinking weirdly, then you’re gonna lynch him every single damn game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
August 25 2023 15:00 GMT
#332
On August 25 2023 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I can tell you though that 95% of LS reads are based purelyon meta, when he is town.

im saying is thistrue. or is it more you think its true. i cant be bothered to look at old games yet.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 15:00 GMT
#333
On August 25 2023 23:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 23:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2023 23:05 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Particularly:
"Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia."
"Has koshi tried to get himself lynched before as either alignment?"
"Nope not that I remember"

He believes I wouldnt openly want to get lynched as mafia.
He believes I never openly said I want to get lynched as either alignment.

There is no contradiction.

We have to agree to disagree here then. Because what i see is a player who bases their reads (especially early on) fully and completely to meta. The first post would be fine if he just said "i dont think Koshi would want to get lynched as mafia like this", but instead he bases it on a meta on Koshi where Koshi has never wanted to be lynched as mafia. This does not go well with the fact that his meta suggests that "Koshi doesn't do that as any alignment". Aka it should be a null tell for him, and especially the first post he made suggesests that he should not have that conclusion about Koshi's alignment based on what he gives as a reasoning.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys. Marv, Rayn, and Koshi so far looks town from what I had read. Marv because his attitude seems a bit different from last game. Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia. Rayn because he actually trying to move things forward and trying to actually solve the game.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Nope not that I remember but I think it's more town indicated of him though.

LS was mafia in my last game and I wouldn't have guessed it on D1. So I will take your read in consideration but to me it seems he makes a meta read that I wouldn't do it as mafia. Not because I never did it, but that I wouldn't do it based on my previous playstyle as mafia.

He also elaborated it like that when pressed so story checks out.

He made the read because its not your mafia!meta.
Whwn questioned, he said its not your town!meta either.

If honest, he should not read you anything because his meta suggests a null!read.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
August 25 2023 15:00 GMT
#334
i think ive probally played with him before i just dont remember
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 25 2023 15:03 GMT
#335
On August 26 2023 00:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 23:46 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2023 23:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2023 23:05 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Particularly:
"Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia."
"Has koshi tried to get himself lynched before as either alignment?"
"Nope not that I remember"

He believes I wouldnt openly want to get lynched as mafia.
He believes I never openly said I want to get lynched as either alignment.

There is no contradiction.

We have to agree to disagree here then. Because what i see is a player who bases their reads (especially early on) fully and completely to meta. The first post would be fine if he just said "i dont think Koshi would want to get lynched as mafia like this", but instead he bases it on a meta on Koshi where Koshi has never wanted to be lynched as mafia. This does not go well with the fact that his meta suggests that "Koshi doesn't do that as any alignment". Aka it should be a null tell for him, and especially the first post he made suggesests that he should not have that conclusion about Koshi's alignment based on what he gives as a reasoning.

On August 25 2023 22:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys. Marv, Rayn, and Koshi so far looks town from what I had read. Marv because his attitude seems a bit different from last game. Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia. Rayn because he actually trying to move things forward and trying to actually solve the game.

On August 25 2023 22:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Nope not that I remember but I think it's more town indicated of him though.

LS was mafia in my last game and I wouldn't have guessed it on D1. So I will take your read in consideration but to me it seems he makes a meta read that I wouldn't do it as mafia. Not because I never did it, but that I wouldn't do it based on my previous playstyle as mafia.

He also elaborated it like that when pressed so story checks out.

He made the read because its not your mafia!meta.
Whwn questioned, he said its not your town!meta either.

If honest, he should not read you anything because his meta suggests a null!read.

Not what he said.
I don't understand how you do not understand that.
Sadness.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 15:04 GMT
#336
Rayn, my answer to DP there is the same answer to your question to me
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 15:04 GMT
#337
What did he say then? Becausethats what i read.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 15:06 GMT
#338
Idk i have to go theough this all again when i hve access to computer.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 15:10 GMT
#339
I would appreciate if you three, koshi/marv/iamp would get on the same page on this, because i value all of your opinion if youre town (and it would be telling if youre not). Because right now:
- marv understands point, says it doesnt make LS mafia
- koshi says LS disnt do it at all
- iamp doesnt understand point
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 25 2023 15:13 GMT
#340
+ Show Spoiler +
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LS: I think picture 1 would prefer to eat picture 2.
Somebody: But did you ever see picture one eat any of the 2?
LS: No I don't think I have
rayn: AMAGAD CONTRADICTION
I had a good night of sleep.
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