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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 13:43 GMT
#281
On August 25 2023 22:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:38 mathenalin wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys. Marv, Rayn, and Koshi so far looks town from what I had read. Marv because his attitude seems a bit different from last game. Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia. Rayn because he actually trying to move things forward and trying to actually solve the game.


Has koshi tried to get himself lynched before as either alignment?

Nope not that I remember but I think it's more town indicated of him though.

uh-oh, bad LS...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 13:44 GMT
#282
##vote LightningStrike
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 13:44 GMT
#283
On August 25 2023 22:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:02 mathenalin wrote:
This may be too early for a read but I don't see a world where both mafia marv and mafia rayn read VE as town early on and then sort of celebrate over it. (although mostly rayn congratulating marv). I suppose it's possible that rayn just said "you know who you SHOULD town read" and then agreed with whatever marv says but feels unlikely.
Both strong players so I think if there is a mafia in there it is only one and then its either two strong town players reading VE as town, which makes it more likely he is town. Or there is one mafia in the two of them and they are reading VE as town with the knowledge that he is.
Summary then that VE is likely town. then rayn or marv both town or max one mafia.


hate this post for a bunch of reasons (no offense)

Why please?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2023 13:45 GMT
#284
On August 25 2023 22:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:41 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:38 mathenalin wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys. Marv, Rayn, and Koshi so far looks town from what I had read. Marv because his attitude seems a bit different from last game. Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia. Rayn because he actually trying to move things forward and trying to actually solve the game.


Has koshi tried to get himself lynched before as either alignment?

Nope not that I remember but I think it's more town indicated of him though.


why?

I know Koshi enough to say he would of tried hard and not get himself lynched as mafia Day 1 like that. In fact I remember him bitching about not having enough time to do stuff and wanted more time when he was mafia in Horns of Africa.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
mathenalin
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom120 Posts
August 25 2023 13:45 GMT
#285
On August 25 2023 22:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:34 mathenalin wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 iamperfection wrote:
how are you giving marv a town read do you respect his game that little.


I spent the last two games, deep in his filter, lynching town marv and catching scum marv.

So in terms of his recent play, what i explained to koshi stood out to me.


I didn't play in those games so I don't know exactly how it went, but what concerns me with this is that you have a large amount of data/experience from the past two games and now you are extrapolating a read based on a very small sample size in this game which, to me, doesn't seem to lean either way, at least not from an attitude perspective.
I now have to decide if you sort of see yourself as the "marv whisperer" trying to make an early god read. Or are you trying to pocket marv which is more suspicious.


You are right, I am using my years of experience playing mafia as a lens through which i processed the last two games, as well as playing many games with marv in the past to make a read.

why don;t you tell me what your reads are?

cause right now you are repeating what is happening in the thread, and its sus.


Sorry didn't mean to upset you.

As far as my reads go I don't have anything new since my last post where I said VE was likely town and that one or more of marv and rayn are town. I have leanings either way but as a new player I don't have your confidence in analysing players.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 13:45 GMT
#286
On August 25 2023 22:17 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:12 iamperfection wrote:
how are you giving marv a town read do you respect his game that little.


I spent the last two games, deep in his filter, lynching town marv and catching scum marv.

So in terms of his recent play, what i explained to koshi stood out to me.

Why u so obsessed with me
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 13:46 GMT
#287
On August 25 2023 22:34 mathenalin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 iamperfection wrote:
how are you giving marv a town read do you respect his game that little.


I spent the last two games, deep in his filter, lynching town marv and catching scum marv.

So in terms of his recent play, what i explained to koshi stood out to me.


I didn't play in those games so I don't know exactly how it went, but what concerns me with this is that you have a large amount of data/experience from the past two games and now you are extrapolating a read based on a very small sample size in this game which, to me, doesn't seem to lean either way, at least not from an attitude perspective.
I now have to decide if you sort of see yourself as the "marv whisperer" trying to make an early god read. Or are you trying to pocket marv which is more suspicious.

I flatter myself to think I am extremely hard to pocket
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2023 13:46 GMT
#288
On August 25 2023 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:41 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:38 mathenalin wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys. Marv, Rayn, and Koshi so far looks town from what I had read. Marv because his attitude seems a bit different from last game. Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia. Rayn because he actually trying to move things forward and trying to actually solve the game.


Has koshi tried to get himself lynched before as either alignment?

Nope not that I remember but I think it's more town indicated of him though.

uh-oh, bad LS...

How is it bad? I did explain where I coming from though if you haven't read it though in my last post.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
August 25 2023 13:47 GMT
#289
On August 25 2023 22:45 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 iamperfection wrote:
how are you giving marv a town read do you respect his game that little.


I spent the last two games, deep in his filter, lynching town marv and catching scum marv.

So in terms of his recent play, what i explained to koshi stood out to me.

Why u so obsessed with me

how could anyone not be baby
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 13:47 GMT
#290
On August 25 2023 22:47 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:45 marvellosity wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 iamperfection wrote:
how are you giving marv a town read do you respect his game that little.


I spent the last two games, deep in his filter, lynching town marv and catching scum marv.

So in terms of his recent play, what i explained to koshi stood out to me.

Why u so obsessed with me

how could anyone not be baby

💕💕
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2023 13:47 GMT
#291
On August 25 2023 22:45 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 iamperfection wrote:
how are you giving marv a town read do you respect his game that little.


I spent the last two games, deep in his filter, lynching town marv and catching scum marv.

So in terms of his recent play, what i explained to koshi stood out to me.

Why u so obsessed with me

You're irresistible I can't blame him.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 13:48 GMT
#292
On August 25 2023 22:45 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:42 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:41 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:38 mathenalin wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys. Marv, Rayn, and Koshi so far looks town from what I had read. Marv because his attitude seems a bit different from last game. Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia. Rayn because he actually trying to move things forward and trying to actually solve the game.


Has koshi tried to get himself lynched before as either alignment?

Nope not that I remember but I think it's more town indicated of him though.


why?

I know Koshi enough to say he would of tried hard and not get himself lynched as mafia Day 1 like that. In fact I remember him bitching about not having enough time to do stuff and wanted more time when he was mafia in Horns of Africa.

I don’t mind this
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
mathenalin
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom120 Posts
August 25 2023 13:48 GMT
#293
On August 25 2023 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mathenalin why cant me and marv not both be mafia making a "correct" read on town (or even mafia) VE?


You could I suppose , but It seems unlikely to me that two mafia teammates would make a simultaneous town read where they piggy back off each other. Don't mafia teammates try to create seperation between each other typically?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 25 2023 13:50 GMT
#294
On August 25 2023 22:48 mathenalin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mathenalin why cant me and marv not both be mafia making a "correct" read on town (or even mafia) VE?


You could I suppose , but It seems unlikely to me that two mafia teammates would make a simultaneous town read where they piggy back off each other. Don't mafia teammates try to create seperation between each other typically?

Well actually it wasn’t simultaneous exactly, it was cleverly crafted where Koshi said something about VE and the only reason I mentioned it at all was because of what Koshi said. Next level play in that case!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 13:53 GMT
#295
On August 25 2023 22:48 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:45 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:42 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:41 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:38 mathenalin wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys. Marv, Rayn, and Koshi so far looks town from what I had read. Marv because his attitude seems a bit different from last game. Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia. Rayn because he actually trying to move things forward and trying to actually solve the game.


Has koshi tried to get himself lynched before as either alignment?

Nope not that I remember but I think it's more town indicated of him though.


why?

I know Koshi enough to say he would of tried hard and not get himself lynched as mafia Day 1 like that. In fact I remember him bitching about not having enough time to do stuff and wanted more time when he was mafia in Horns of Africa.

I don’t mind this

Did you read both of his posts?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 13:54 GMT
#296
Particularly:
"Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia."
"Has koshi tried to get himself lynched before as either alignment?"
"Nope not that I remember"
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2023 13:54 GMT
#297
By the way anyone else felt like the ChatGPT thing from Jacob was forced?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2023 13:57 GMT
#298
With that being said I going to take a nap mainly because I didn't sleep well last night. Will catch up when I wake up!
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 25 2023 13:58 GMT
#299
On August 25 2023 22:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 21:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
"Town rayn isn't chill when he enters a game."

thgis is complete trash.


Why would he say that as mafia?

Read the obs thread from the last game, he was HYPER aware of you, the way you react to things, planning how he will play so as to not arouse your suspicion, he pocketed you and used you as a shield.

Why does he make that post as mafia this game?

That came across as very townie to me, because he must know it might piss you off, and he doesn't care.

Just because of that.


So you are saying its WIFOM?

Vivax is very good at WIFOM.


but this doesn't make sense. Whats the objective? that you town read him for sussing you?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2023 14:01 GMT
#300
On August 25 2023 22:58 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 21:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
"Town rayn isn't chill when he enters a game."

thgis is complete trash.


Why would he say that as mafia?

Read the obs thread from the last game, he was HYPER aware of you, the way you react to things, planning how he will play so as to not arouse your suspicion, he pocketed you and used you as a shield.

Why does he make that post as mafia this game?

That came across as very townie to me, because he must know it might piss you off, and he doesn't care.

Just because of that.


So you are saying its WIFOM?

Vivax is very good at WIFOM.


but this doesn't make sense. Whats the objective? that you town read him for sussing you?

I do not care about the objective because i do not know what mafia's objective is to make almost any post ever, if i did i would be even more amazing at catching mafia.

What i do know is that he is posting something that is incorrect and i am not sure he actually believes that is correct. As town you would definitely not lie about something like that.
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