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On January 16 2021 11:20 Vivax wrote: My role is selfish, I can't just stay alive and win with the town. I also can't win if town loses now, and town can't win either way if Obi is town and I'm 3p.
So if the town wants to self-own when Obi is scum, vote me. If mafia wants to troll, fuck off. I've devoted enough attention to this phase. If Obi is town, then gg? But then he shouldn't give a shit either, but he does.
Wait does this check?
We are at 8 ppl now. If we are in the worst case scenario where no mafia are up for lynch now and Vivax is 3P, then lynching town!Obi is auto lose and 3P Vivax getting lynched leads to 3v3 tomorrow assuming no saves...
So either one of you is scum or this comes down to night actions?
Oof
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On January 16 2021 12:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2021 11:42 Tictock wrote:On January 15 2021 22:19 Vivax wrote:On January 15 2021 22:16 ghostofconversion wrote: why I bothered to vote is beyond me but at this point I believe it's obi/jat/dandel
I'm also being removed in 7 hours AMA Disagree on Dandel, but one at a time. Still think ur nuke is a dud. This post gave me modivation to open Vivax's filter and see if he seemed to think this before the duel as well, but that was inconclusive. I did reread these though On January 15 2021 10:32 Vivax wrote: I think Ever, Slam, Obi are all mafia tbh. But I'm probably going to duel Obi. On January 15 2021 11:20 Vivax wrote:On January 15 2021 11:14 Alakaslam wrote:On January 15 2021 11:09 WaveofShadow wrote: Uh Slam I don't know what you got out of that But I didn't find a patter
Spell it out for me? Obi immediately talks about dayphase speculation in a TMI way. As town, why should he think ONLY dandel is why there is a N0??? Because SOMEHOW, he knows SCUM is not the reason! But you said Dandel is 100 % mafia no? So why are you judging Obi from a point of view where Dandel did it as town? Also TMI ;> I think in reaction to Dandel's claim, mafia obviously played it safe and was reluctant to give a vote. Town either yolo voted because fun was more important or grew suspicious of the claim because that's what town does, HF also asked for more info. Mafia on the other hand was more passive/careful, asked an irrelevant question (Slam), didn't commit (Obi), or did other stuff (Jat?Conv?Ever?). Which to me doesn't make a ton of sense to me, but I could see this being Vivax's legit thinking here. Clearly though It has to be either Vivax/Dandel/+1 here or Vivax is 3P. I also liked these On January 15 2021 17:05 Vivax wrote:If Obi is town, this is me: + Show Spoiler +In the meantime: How did you guess what Eversinces personality was? Can't remember any SlamSlang in that filter. On January 15 2021 19:59 Vivax wrote: There's peeps doubting my claimed ability so I felt like I had to use it.
I'm your captain now and I'll go down with the ship if Obi isn't scum. Right after using the duel ability. These really read like Vivax isn't sure, not like he is pushing Obi because he Needs Obi to die today for the win. These posts are easily faked as mafia tbh - nothing in there is particularly special or enlightening or exclusively from town. Btw, if Vivax wasn't sure then he should have waited for people to talk to him about what he was doing. And none of this really erases the fact that he saved confirmed mafia from today's lynch by doing this. NEVER FORGET that the reason we're not all enjoying our weekend is because Vivax dueled me instead of letting us put dandel out to pasture.
I guess you are right and there was a few hours gap in there.
Just not how I expect scum to push an all in play is my point.
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On January 16 2021 14:49 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2021 14:10 Tictock wrote:On January 16 2021 01:13 Alakaslam wrote:On January 16 2021 00:48 justanothertownie wrote:On January 16 2021 00:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I kind of want to think that it's waveu just because he's not giving me any room here. Jat has a nasty tendency to get stuck in tunnels sometimes which is a little bit more likely than waveu just kind of writing me off for extremely poor reasoning. ??? In what tunnel am I stuck again? If there is any it has got to be dandel. S U P MAH NIGGA Have I successfully been you? :D I am JAT. I think the game is over so may as well claim and gloat Also, roleplaying you made me play significantly better sensei lol Uhh, Slam this game should only be over if you are scum here getting a ML. We do actually have to lynch mafia to win. I'm gunna put this out of my mind rn kus if I take this as the slip I read it as I won't think about the game anymore and blindly lynch Obi. Isn’t this post Vivax duel?
Yea I hadn't thought through the numbers yet to realize if we lynch 3P Vivax we might be fucked anyway.
By my point about us lynching mafia today would mean this game goes for more cycles is valid. Claims also are super bad if we somehow come down to night actions here.
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On January 16 2021 16:12 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2021 14:10 Tictock wrote:On January 16 2021 01:13 Alakaslam wrote:On January 16 2021 00:48 justanothertownie wrote:On January 16 2021 00:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I kind of want to think that it's waveu just because he's not giving me any room here. Jat has a nasty tendency to get stuck in tunnels sometimes which is a little bit more likely than waveu just kind of writing me off for extremely poor reasoning. ??? In what tunnel am I stuck again? If there is any it has got to be dandel. S U P MAH NIGGA Have I successfully been you? :D I am JAT. I think the game is over so may as well claim and gloat Also, roleplaying you made me play significantly better sensei lol Uhh, Slam this game should only be over if you are scum here getting a ML. We do actually have to lynch mafia to win. I'm gunna put this out of my mind rn kus if I take this as the slip I read it as I won't think about the game anymore and blindly lynch Obi. Nah.. Shove between the two. If you're not s/3p just sway lynch on the town, shoot, win. Simple.
Huh?
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On January 16 2021 16:42 Eversince wrote: Ok.. Give me a second.
Slams claim, even if true, not proven, confirmed people?
He got Dandel has KP one night, then Dandel does not win with town last night. So assuming Slam is telling the truth then Dandel does have to be mafia or at best an SK.
Interestingly I think Vivax just said he cannot win with town either so idk.
I'm tempted to open up another line of WIFOM about setup but kinda besides the point atm.
I'm fairly convinced Vivax is legit 3P here, need to decide if Obi has a decent chance to be town.
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On January 16 2021 17:06 WaveofShadow wrote: You people all need to get your votes off of Vivax Why though? I mean I will try to consolidate with who I think is town in the end. Don't worry about that. But I am not sure you are on the right track here.
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I'm not going to be around at EoD.
GGs?
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The information is on the table take it or leave it.
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I'm here for right now but unfortunately it's not super likely I'll be around much before deadline. The thread isn't super active anyway so I don't really see what else I need to respond to at this rate anyways.
Just a minor consolidation of my current thoughts as to what's going on:
I think Jat's town because of some meta stuff and because of proper role use. I think TT is town because he fell into the same basket as me early and I've never been particularly swayed by the cases on him. I think he had a pretty good cop check that actually helps us out considerably and he outed it at a time that saved us a lot of trouble. Sure, there's always a chance that they're both mafia but Vivax's play doesn't make sense if they are, and TT seems kinda town outside of his claim today anyways. Slam is town and I have seen absolutely nothing to not believe that. I think Waveu is being not so smart and I think he's resisting this lynch way too much - could easily be last scum, even if nothing else due to PoE. Dandel and Vivax are the other two for obvious reasons at this point.
And in case it's relevant, conversion's thoughts on the situation aren't good because they don't assess anyone's play and just assume that someone playing badly makes them town.
I'll be away from most of today unfortunately, but I'll be lurking about close to deadline if I need to claim.
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On January 17 2021 01:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm here for right now but unfortunately it's not super likely I'll be around much before deadline. The thread isn't super active anyway so I don't really see what else I need to respond to at this rate anyways.
Just a minor consolidation of my current thoughts as to what's going on:
I think Jat's town because of some meta stuff and because of proper role use. I think TT is town because he fell into the same basket as me early and I've never been particularly swayed by the cases on him. I think he had a pretty good cop check that actually helps us out considerably and he outed it at a time that saved us a lot of trouble. Sure, there's always a chance that they're both mafia but Vivax's play doesn't make sense if they are, and TT seems kinda town outside of his claim today anyways. Slam is town and I have seen absolutely nothing to not believe that. I think Waveu is being not so smart and I think he's resisting this lynch way too much - could easily be last scum, even if nothing else due to PoE. Dandel and Vivax are the other two for obvious reasons at this point.
And in case it's relevant, conversion's thoughts on the situation aren't good because they don't assess anyone's play and just assume that someone playing badly makes them town.
I'll be away from most of today unfortunately, but I'll be lurking about close to deadline if I need to claim. You should claim anyways to be honest...
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I must be a ugly chicken.. I didn't make the list *.*
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On January 17 2021 01:36 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2021 01:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm here for right now but unfortunately it's not super likely I'll be around much before deadline. The thread isn't super active anyway so I don't really see what else I need to respond to at this rate anyways.
Just a minor consolidation of my current thoughts as to what's going on:
I think Jat's town because of some meta stuff and because of proper role use. I think TT is town because he fell into the same basket as me early and I've never been particularly swayed by the cases on him. I think he had a pretty good cop check that actually helps us out considerably and he outed it at a time that saved us a lot of trouble. Sure, there's always a chance that they're both mafia but Vivax's play doesn't make sense if they are, and TT seems kinda town outside of his claim today anyways. Slam is town and I have seen absolutely nothing to not believe that. I think Waveu is being not so smart and I think he's resisting this lynch way too much - could easily be last scum, even if nothing else due to PoE. Dandel and Vivax are the other two for obvious reasons at this point.
And in case it's relevant, conversion's thoughts on the situation aren't good because they don't assess anyone's play and just assume that someone playing badly makes them town.
I'll be away from most of today unfortunately, but I'll be lurking about close to deadline if I need to claim. You should claim anyways to be honest...
Only if I have to.
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On January 17 2021 01:40 Eversince wrote: I must be a ugly chicken.. I didn't make the list *.*
You are cop checked and fall into the town pile because of it.
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Town with two investigative roles btw?
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Though TTs is hard enough to use to be possible. If Obi isn‘t mafia I‘m calling WoS, jat, dandel for posterity.
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On January 17 2021 01:55 Vivax wrote: Though TTs is hard enough to use to be possible. If Obi isn‘t mafia I‘m calling WoS, jat, dandel for posterity. This is dumb because it's impossible but whateva
We need consensus on votes. It is too close and scum can just win with last minute vote shenannies if there's stuff we've been wrong on completely.
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Tictock and ever you need to vote Obi right now The rest of y'all, consider switching please.
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On January 17 2021 01:55 Vivax wrote: Though TTs is hard enough to use to be possible. If Obi isn‘t mafia I‘m calling WoS, jat, dandel for posterity. These times when you are very likely correct are why I now believe you are 3p
If you’re scum I can’t be mad but in this case...
Fortunately, I won’t be mad long. Ggs
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Less than 2h to go, we're tied and 2 people haven't voted. Absolutely gg Scum are obviously very happy right now and the best part is we don't even know who they'd be most happy about BECAUSE IT'S TIED
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Sorry all, I fell asleep trying to get to Obis filter. I am stuck at work till well after deadline and it's been busy enough that this is prob my only post.
I am voting Obi. I just don't think Vivax is scum here and is legit 3P, which means lynching him is basically a lose unless we somehow get a save.
Obi makes too much sense in multiple scum team, and though thereis a chance he is town and lynching him will lose the game I find this the only option for us to win the game.
So risking it for the biscuit, which is what I am baking all day so feels apt.
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