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On December 01 2020 14:51 Trfel wrote: @raynpelikoneet, you are referring to this discussion, right? I don't think Hapahauli was trying to argue that we should kill between Vivax/Tictock first instead of him because it's somehow superior. Rather, the point Hapahauli is trying to make here is that Tictock is suspicious because by his own logic, he should be fine lynching Vivax. Hapahauli was trying to see if Tictock would go along with that and vote for Vivax, or if he would hesitate. I read it as more of an experiment. Like I get that he could do this as mafia. It's mafia motivated to move votes off of oneself. But why wouldn't Hapahauli do this as town? If you're referring to a different discussion, the above is all moot. In that case if you could please point me to it? Because I (quickly) read the thread from Hapahauli's claim until this point and didn't find what you are referring to. Yes i understand towards TT it can be this. Towards you though it doesnt follow the same logic. If his experiment went well and TT came off as scummy why is he not voting for TT then? I know TT is voting for Vivax here but still, he was very hesitant at first. | ||
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On December 01 2020 15:02 Tictock wrote: Yea but then Rayn fell into the same trap that had me pushing Hapa so much for. Which ironically was the same thing he is scum reading me for... But I did was doing the experiment first! All of which revolves around people not wanting to kill Vivax, thus WE KILL VIVAX! This is literally fucking bullshit. | ||
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On December 01 2020 08:56 Hapahauli wrote: @ TT The offer stands. If I were to get Trfel to endorse this plan, will you vote Vivax? Yes or no. | ||
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Doesnt want to be mayor just because he [i]doent want responsibility and hecause he cannot then use his role, while trying to convince me into lynching grack for "i have historically very good accuracy of hitting mafia D1"? Why doesnt he think he will get shot N1 anyways? Reads jock mafia for his posting well enouugh to put him as very clear scumread D2 just to later on end up saying jock is mafia because he doesnt remember anything jock has posted? Briefly as it was, reads TT town simply just for reading rayn's filter. In MYLO??? As claimed blue doesnt get shot or roleblocked N2 over shockeyy? Uses ate in "i understand you can want to lynch me for three blues being too much". Now thats simply bullshit and noone should vote hapa for that, why doesnt he say so? Because of ate, it's better if peoplerealise itthemselves. Still, why is he allowing people to scumread him for utterly shit reasons if he is town?[/b] | ||
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Now you said earlier that you cannot be mafia with anyone in the game. Why can't you be mafia with: - me - vivax - TT ? | ||
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On December 01 2020 21:27 Hapahauli wrote: "Hapa didn't say it, but I'm just going to read into what he said until I think he is scummy". I think i provided explanation to this one. Yes you were talking to TT and from TT's pov the game is solved then yeah, but after that you say "now we just need Trfel on board" and that's where you in my opinion imply that. Sure you're gonna say it's something else as either alignment but that's still what i think. This post here: On December 01 2020 08:56 Hapahauli wrote: @ TT The offer stands. If I were to get Trfel to endorse this plan, will you vote Vivax? Yes or no. | ||
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On December 01 2020 16:57 Trfel wrote: I find it very unlikely that Hapahauli would be mafia with Vivax. That doesn't line up with their play today (double bus with Vivax being lazy) and doesn't line up with Hapahauli's push on Vivax Day 2. So if Hapahauli is mafia, it's with raynpelikoneet or Tictock. If it's raynpelikoneet, they'd be going through a lot of theatrics when they could just get a mislynch and collect the win pretty easily. So I don't really believe that either. Leaves Hapahauli and Tictock. This is a much more believable combination. Yo uare right that's unlike, although i wouldnt count that out completely. I think there has been a game quite recently where Vivax refused to vote a townie over his scumbuddy in a 3-2 situation (that would have won the game for mafia) because he was afraid that someone changes votes and he i caught. I think he eventually won because he hammered a townie over mafia but still. I also dont believe Vivax is lying about the bussing thing here. If he is mafia he certainly could be bussing hapa here. I think i n the game he played well he bussed both of jock and gb pretty much all the game ,town was just too dumb to not lynch either of them in time to figure the game out "quickly enough" and he gained credit for that. So yeah, i would not count Vivax out entirely, although TT is saying some terrible shit here and defini9tely looks much worse at least to me. | ||
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On December 01 2020 22:20 Hapahauli wrote: How good of an actor do you think I am as mafia? How do you perceive my scum play to be? What does that matter? In the mafiascum game i wasn't able to catch you because i let go of your scummy things when you bussed and made some good psots i would expect town!hapa to make. That's the latest news on that front for me. I havent seen you as mafia in ages before that. Now can you answer my question? | ||
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On December 01 2020 16:57 Trfel wrote: I find it very unlikely that Hapahauli would be mafia with Vivax. That doesn't line up with their play today (double bus with Vivax being lazy) and doesn't line up with Hapahauli's push on Vivax Day 2. Also this is another thing. That's the exact reason that would be plausible to start the day with. I also have an opinion on the D2but i am gonna let Hapa answer me first on why he cannot be mafia with anyone. | ||
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On December 01 2020 22:36 Hapahauli wrote: Like one of your "suspicions" this game is that I wouldn't botch a blue claim. Do you realize that I literally just did that in Aperture last game, in which I botched a power role claim by thinking I rolled a 3p? Where did i say this? | ||
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On December 01 2020 22:35 Hapahauli wrote: If you want to ignore that context, and if you want to believe that scum-Hapa is capable of that, then you are scum or you don't know me or anything about my playstyle at all. On December 01 2020 22:37 Hapahauli wrote: The last few games that we have played should tell you that you know jack shit about how I play as mafia or town. ??? | ||
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On December 01 2020 21:16 Hapahauli wrote: What people should understand if they read my filter in context is that it is really unlikely for me to have any scum-buddy this game. Therefore, how the fuck am I mafia? | ||
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On December 01 2020 22:45 Hapahauli wrote: That is the implication of this: You are basically saying that my blue claim doesn't make sense in the context of my play, when it is very easily explained by me posting the first thing that comes to my mind when I play as town. No i am saying that regardless of your affiliation you didnt read that not all roleblocks are notified. I think you'd want to be mayor regardless of your role because you think youre really good and if you hit mafia you'll be killed anyways on N1. | ||
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On December 01 2020 22:35 Hapahauli wrote: My perception of my scum play is that I would not be capable of acting "rage" or "tilt" in the way that I am interacting with you, TT, or Vivax. But that is obviously a self-serving argument, which makes your whole question incredibly stupid for making me make a self-serving argument. Wait this is your answer? Yeah no. | ||
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On December 01 2020 22:47 Hapahauli wrote: I answered you. We are going to play this the opposite way, in which you tell me how I can be mafia with TT or Vivax, and then I tell you how stupid you are. You can be mafia with Vivax since if you are the top suspect here it's beneficial for you two to shit on each other, maybe someone will go "wow there's no way these two are mafia together". You can be mafia with TT since you say Vivax and TT are no different for you but all the time you want to end up on Vivax and not TT. | ||
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On December 01 2020 22:46 Hapahauli wrote: How many times did you tunnel me in our last 3 games? What was my alignment in our last 3 games? My ???? is about that you first say i am either scum or dont know how you play as either alignment and then you say i definitely dont know how you play as either alignment. But you're mad at me because i dont think youre town? Man that's some irrational shit.  | ||
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