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On June 02 2020 10:58 Tictock wrote: Guess I shouldn't feel bad about forgetting. Is this the current pace of TL mafia? Awkward post | ||
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what you thought about figuring out about my alignment was something i hoped for after rolling maf and actually posting | ||
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Was a drunk post. Anyway, good morning. No I don't think you're scum this game. And I hoped that trying to play decently as mafia wouldn't make me so easy to townread. On June 02 2020 14:58 Trfel wrote: Can I ask why you find this post awkward? I don't really feel it's remarkable at all, maybe even ever so slightly townish because mafia would have little incentive to post given the lack of activity. Likely falling asleep soon. He spent a bit too much time thinking about his own post for my taste. But could be I read too much into it. | ||
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On June 02 2020 23:42 Jockmcplop wrote: Why hedge on this? I don't get it. Use it to pressure don't just say 'yeah i think this but i might be wrong'. He seemed excessively self-conscious but the hedge is there because it was an early post, so I guess it can come from town if they don't know what else to talk about. | ||
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Not something I'm feeling like wrapping in more complex words. | ||
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Everyone else did something that made me think they were town. A quick rundown of my TRs: Jock already different from his scum game in that he is more fluid with his posts and makes them clearer to read through. Rayn cause went after cop early, inquisitive etc. I don't think it's a tough choice to not lynch him D1 here. Shockeyy's vote on me strikes me as townie already cause it's a vote where you don't know how serious it is and looks like he has fun with the game and looks lighthearted. Jeekaka I townread just for the 'would be funny if x and y were mafia together' alone. Just too chill of a post while calling ppl possible mafia to come from scum imo. Trfel town imo because of his smug early post towards rayn's entrance. As for why I think cop is scum, is that she usually has a hard time seeing me as town when she's town even when I feel like I play a very strong town game. Here she is way more cautious with how she reads me and probably thinks she could make it look like she's distancing from me. For zey. I think her posts are worded a bit too complex than what they need to be. Looks a bit like she's looking into too many places at once. But could be the English thing rayn mentioned. TT pretty much still for his self-conscious entrance, also his 'I'm going to go into catch-up post by post'-mode feels like he has a bit of trouble getting a feeling for the game. | ||
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On June 03 2020 20:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Discounting your previous post do you think you have been playing a strong town game and regardless of that, isn't cake approaching the read on you exactly as you said she would do if town??? Regardless of how I play, she tends to be suspicious of me when town. Even when I think I'm very obvious town, which I am not this game. @jee Yeah is it a vote, is it not a vote? It doesn't matter but I don't think it's a mafia move to go for a vote-or-maybe-not here. I think I have a good lynch pool. But it feels like this game I am asked a lot to rehash my townreads instead. | ||
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On June 03 2020 22:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yesh but isnt that exactly she is reading you so far Vivax??? On June 03 2020 02:39 CopCake wrote: Inclined with trfl mafia, vivax feels weird but I am not a "vivax expert". I know he broke his meta last game so I will just be wary of him. No. She says here she isn't sure on how to read me but because I broke meta she will just be wary, when she should be even more suspicious. | ||
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On June 03 2020 22:21 CopCake wrote: Aren't I one of those players you avoid to read because I make no sense Vivax? Since when do I have a meta in how I read you when town or mafia? How many times have you seen me as mafia? Irrelevant. What's relevant is that if you are town, you aren't convincing of not being one of the mafias in my lynch pool because you decided to give zey a pass with ??? in your list and you townread Ticktock for unknown reasons in less than 10 minutes afterwards Hey tictock! What are your reads and which is your favorite type of sushi? (not in the games, just in general) What did TT post previously? His Shockeyy-read and last post, then you ask him about his reads again as if interested in them, but decide to townread him anyway. You are fairly comfortable having TT as town, but passed him a question for its own sake. That said, TTs case on Shockeyy is hyperbole. 'Shitting up the thread'. You can't be as confident as TT is that it makes Shockeyy mafia (who is hard to read) unless you decided beforehand you were going to push him imho. Sho is clearly actively doing nothing and shitting up the game. It's actually confounding to me that nobody else has called it out. | ||
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That part of the thread feels fake to me. | ||
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On June 03 2020 23:04 CopCake wrote: Wow sorry for the many quotes, but in post #214 you can see why I can town read tictock. I don't know why Vivax thinks I suddenly town read tictock with no reason at all. Yeah because you agree with him on the jock&plop -apologies- nonsense it implies a townread. Nope, doesn't work like this usually. Honestly I don't buy any of that interaction at all. Why even ask him reads if you're both going after Shockeyy? You have the common lynch target for even shared reasons so the 'reads pls' seems out of place. You either weren't trusting him to be town asking that or you were looking for something sheepable, which you already found in the Shockeyy read, so has to be the first, which doesn't compute with the townread. | ||
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Just know that my PoE is 100% swag secured correct. | ||
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I townread some peeps and then I look for reasons in the remaining ones for why I can't. Or why they're scum. | ||
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On June 04 2020 03:13 Jockmcplop wrote: The vivax lynch is good.  salty boi | ||
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You need to really be on him constantly to pull info out of him | ||
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Apologies due to cop. I got too cocky :| and was kinda moody today, was really expecting to get lynched. | ||
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Vigging me wouldn't be a bad idea since I don't see too much reason to back away from the TT and zey reads tomorrow, and I don't think I can be townread either way. But I need to analyze the followup to the lynch still, I was out. | ||
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Trfel is still town hero. Maybe he is the new Palmar. | ||
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He has a hard time dealing with the British divas that show up from time to time. *cough* HF *cough* | ||
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- Settles for a very early cop townread. - Agrees with cop early on Shockeyy being scum. - His followup before deadline doesn't reflect any intention of directing the lynch either way, when he really should have a clear cut opinion of what the game should be doing. - Most posts are rather focused at discussing stuff from all sorts of topics. Like asking me about what I was saying about cake, but not really coming out with something from it that would make him say I'm wrong and cake is town. Or I'm mafia and cake is town. He just kinda okay's the replies he gets and minds his own business. - Instead asks me why he should consider zey, then asks Jock why he should consider me. Two posts he's doubting his Trfel read, then his read on me. He has a very hands-off approach to the game. He did look at zey but didn't come out with a conclusion, just a question of whether zey thinks he's scum. Then he voted me for the sake of not voting cop. Again, easy out. You don't get the feeling TT analyzes posts and asks question to reach a clear-cut way of seeing the game that he can stick to and influence the lynch the way he likes. It's really just a pretense to be insecure, while usually that should push townies towards reconsidering things in a hurry, he appears more calm and mechanical. Shouldn't he have had a clear opinion to lynch Shockeyy considering he was questioning my townread on him? That read just sort of went away towards the end and he was just contemplating Trfel, myself, even after I apparently swayed him that Shock could be town. tl;dr: I don't think Ticktock has a real opinion on things and he's struggling to make it look like he does. | ||
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On June 05 2020 03:10 ShoCkeyy wrote: Vivax why do you think Cop was town reading TT? Well she said it was for agreeing with him for a bunch of stuff basically. | ||
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But basically he's been very townie last game and lynched regardless, so maybe now he cba to try too hard. But that's the point, he's not trying to look like he's trying hard and the way he casually called out rayn felt townie to me. As mafia he was more...Contributive, but in a quantity over quality way. While he talked about a lot of stuff you didn't get a picture of where his head was at, much like I feel about TT this game. | ||
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Last game me and cake were both town I remember her for being a pita. Because she was somehow the only one still thinking I could be mafia in the thread. That she was more cautious in how she read me in this game set me off, though in hindsight I shouldn't have put so much weight into that. The Ticktock stuff on top really made me sure though. And tbh I was expecting to be lynched as well. I think, rayn, that right now you are again falling into the vet+active player bias you tend to for picking who to scumread. Do you have any reason to be discounting zey here? I don't think she has been particularly townie and esp. the way she read Trfel at the beginning felt like she felt pressured into forming a scumread from being pushed to discuss him. | ||
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Yep. Doesn't shift me particularly either way. His rayn scumread-ish is interesting but not worth putting much weight into if he doesn't pursue it further. I'm still in a TT+zey world. | ||
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Maybe I'm wrong and Trfel is mafia and zey is calling out both mafia? Idk, the other townies can decide that if Trfel just decides to not pursue his rayn thought further and let a mislynch happen. If he gets a burst in motivation I think that he can not only look very townie but also find the mafia. That said I'd like him to weigh in on the TT+zey scenario. | ||
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On June 05 2020 05:32 Tictock wrote: Wow this is such a forced narrative on me, the only truthful bit is that I kinda decided cake was town early and never felt the need to question that. I was the first person to be pushing Sho scum, and I still think he could easily be scum, cake and Trfel both kinda piggybacked on the points I made. Near EoD it was clear to me that my preferred lunch (Sho) wasn't happening, and started to reconsider and ask questions to decide where to vote. I had weak townreads on both Vivax and Trfel so I was trying to weigh who I might have been wrong about and would be more ok to vote. It is frustrating to play with some of you guys who base so much on meta. Like to me Sho was literally playing "to scummy to be scum" and even though everyone kinda agreed you all just give it a pass due to that being his D1 meta. I tried to argue my read but being constantly rebuked with that argument makes it feel fruitless to push it anymore. I mean when he replied to my stuff here my first reaction was to burst out laughing at the WOW THIS IS SUCH A FORCED NARRATIVE. But I still have to reply to this reply to my post, which I am probably not content with in how it responds to my accusation. Not now though I'd love to because I'm going for a bbq in the woods. | ||
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And TT wants the easy lynch. | ||
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On June 05 2020 23:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am gonna ask you this though: I understand certain people do certain things but why would you assume OTHER people play mafia similarily??? I think it's a really dumb assumption and doesn't make much sense. If it was like that you could always tell who is mafia when you lynch the first one lol.  As mafia you kinda feel vulnerable when someone calls you and your mate out and you tend to get pushed into the thinking that you are more obvious than you actually are, so you get a hang for bussing. I see that as fact but I also acknowledge that it isn't an argument either of them should be lynched for. But in case one of them flips scum I hope someone thinks back to this instead of giving out cred for bussing. | ||
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I also think I'm playing badly and need a stronger town to do the legwork. Played a bit of devil's advocate with myself and looked at jeekaka, half-assedly. Worst (?) I could find is this: On June 04 2020 14:07 jeekaka wrote: Shame you had to go before you had time to answer that question  I can see Vivax/Trfel world, I can see Jock/Trfel or even Shock/Trfel world where they want to save Vivax to be the next mislynch, and I can even see a distant rayn/Trfel world. In any case I want Trfel's head. On June 04 2020 05:35 jeekaka wrote: I think Vivax might be better lynch for today, as if town he could still be helpfull but he seems to be given up. Trfel is just away for whatever reason. But I'm getting too tired to really think. (After the lynch) On June 04 2020 12:30 jeekaka wrote: Wtf happened :D I basically fell asleep on my keyboard, now I feel bad I didn't switch to Vivax but I was so solid it was gonna be Trefl or Vivax I didn't really care. This actually makes me feel my vote was in the right place but still Yeah, kinda odd conviction shift, oversleeping to vote me, into actually locking in Trfel as the 100% scum when before it sounded like I was more likely. Not sure if slamdunk for a mafia argument, but worth mentioning/discussing I guess? | ||
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pre-lynch On June 04 2020 05:35 jeekaka wrote: I think Vivax might be better lynch for today, as if town he could still be helpfull but he seems to be given up. Trfel is just away for whatever reason. But I'm getting too tired to really think. post-lynch On June 04 2020 12:30 jeekaka wrote: Wtf happened :D I basically fell asleep on my keyboard, now I feel bad I didn't switch to Vivax but I was so solid it was gonna be Trefl or Vivax I didn't really care. This actually makes me feel my vote was in the right place but still On June 04 2020 14:07 jeekaka wrote: Shame you had to go before you had time to answer that question I can see Vivax/Trfel world, I can see Jock/Trfel or even Shock/Trfel world where they want to save Vivax to be the next mislynch, and I can even see a distant rayn/Trfel world. In any case I want Trfel's head. | ||
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On June 06 2020 21:21 jeekaka wrote: Well what happened there was that Trfel was active in the thread, ignored a Tictocks question I had also quoted and when I called it out he was like "what question???" and when I quoted it again he was gone :D So it felt he was really doing his best to avoid answering it. So according to you when I roll mafia all I've got to do is ask questions and if a townie doesn't answer it because he doesn't see it or thinks it's not his top priority, I got myself a mislynch? There are reasons for townies to not answer to something immediately. That's to say, do you really think that not answering things always makes people mafia? | ||
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I just don't think only mafia feels a tad disconnected in this game. I'm also not of the opinion I can just go and deliver something to rayn if he thinks I should be lynched. I'm just not mafia though and I can see why Trfel plays like he does. Just having a hard time making a call if I decide not to follow my early nose. Jock's filter didn't look like he was killed for looking somewhere where nobody else did either. | ||
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On June 06 2020 02:40 Tictock wrote: Looking forward to seeing what made Vivax BURST OUT LAUGHING about me saying his post is a forced narrative. I mean guy has been calling me mafia literally since the start of the game, finally puts together a case-post about it, and it's literally all easily fact-checkable to be false. So I'm gunna calls it as I sees it. @Zey, I wasn't super clear (and I forgot a couple things, which is a lesson to not start drinking early and try to play mafia). When I said "from Trfel's filter the cake read kinda makes sense" what I meant is that his cake read didn't just appear or change when he reappeared. There was a sense that he could have been scum-reading her since early on. I very much agree with you that Trfel N1 made a ton of posts that backtrack and retcon what his reads where D1. Actually on that topic, I love Jeeka's point about Trfel voting with Sho. Trfel ignoring Sho EoD (when he had earlier said Sho looked scummy) is super suspect imo, but I had failed to notice that in voting for cake he was also voting with his scum read Sho >.< I am gunna make an effort to be around a bit later tonight, but I am frankly going to be pretty useless this weekend due to roomates Bday I mentioned. I'm using the whole thing as an excuse to build a firepit in the backyeard which has been on my project list for awhile now and am going to be baking birthday and party treats most of the day tomorrow. I laughed because being like WOW THIS IS SUCH A FORCED NARRATIVE was strongly hyperbole in a sense that it has to come from the slimiest, shadiest mafia scum in your head for someone to just make you go "OH WOW HE'S REACHING SO HARD". But the rest of the post sort of comes across apologetic. Not like you want to murder yours truly for pushing lies on you. | ||
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Rayn too, if town, is giving it 40% maybe. But really it's a pretty chill game so finding the super motivated people might not be the right approach. At least I got some reaction out of TT? Doesn't seem to be particularly bothered with how I represented his play after all. I'd feel more comfortable if he went out of that post more convinced I was scum, since he doesn't think I have any point at all judging from his first reaction. | ||
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If I stick to my rayn townread I get to TickTock + zey. But TT really ruffles more feathers than zey. Jeekaka tries to be around and contributive without giving me too much of a feeling that it's from the sidelines. I think between TT and zey, I'd lynch zey first. Looking through the filter I see the argument showing up a lot for Trfel and TT that they're probably scum for going after the easy target Shockeyy. At the same time she doesn't townread Shockeyy and somehow makes her own read on Shockeyy dependent on how much my read on Shockeyy can be trusted. Scumreading people for going after presumed lynch bait while not treating the lynch bait as town is kinda..convenient? So yeah. I think I'd put zey ahead of TT in the lynches if I use complacency as a metric. | ||
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On June 07 2020 07:59 jeekaka wrote: Fuck me I just still want to lynch Vivax because that town hero thing bothers me now even more. Although that rayns "I wish I wash scum with Zey" starts to haunt me too. + feels Batman They're two completely different things ? | ||
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Maybe in hindsight. | ||
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TT I give a chance of being town tbh. But more likely my D1 PoE was gosu | ||
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Interesting bits: On June 03 2020 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote: Zey has made a scummy start imo On June 03 2020 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dont think she has but please do tell. Jock -> NK Then Ticktocks posting spree starting here: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/559398-sushi-mafia?page=10#192 This one sticks out imo considering TT doesn't voice any suspicion on zey before. On June 03 2020 10:50 Tictock wrote: The fuck is this? "Zey is Mafia! Psst- Hey Zey, don't worry buddy I had to say it, we cool?" But he's seeing this Shockeyy stuff from a tinfoil point of view where he has to think zey is mafia. | ||
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On June 07 2020 22:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: maybe youre right there. what's the point on me? What point on you? You had a pretty strong early D1. But I have to consider the chance you're scum with zey here. At least keep it in mind. That said, if you think TT is mafia, who's mafia with him? | ||
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On June 07 2020 23:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: The point that you seem to be interested in that post. Which i cant understand. Like you think for the post like 12 or whatever hours into D1 Jock posts a random comment of Zey that i disagree with, and that makes me afraid of him enough to kill him over the fact that he thinks you and trfel are mafia for basically the rest of the day and night? Is that it or what? Because you sure do have some point for picking that quote. So dont say there is "no point on me"... I dont who is mafia with TT. And i dont plan on letting people know before the deadline tbh. Oh you thought it was about you? Interesting. I was more focused on Jock being early to call out zey. Your disagreement was kind of just a thing on top. Strikes me as a bit defensive with how you just reacted. But really, it wasn't about you, originally. | ||
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On June 07 2020 23:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: I mean like why dont you just point out what jock said about zey if your opinion is that he was on the right track on zey. Why do you need my post for that? I didn't put that much thought into it. Just quoted them because they were p. much the earliest opinions on zey. Funny example of selective perception though. I think I'm talking about zey, and you think I'm talking about you. | ||
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Who I think should be the next lynch cause between you and TT it's a tougher choice atm. | ||
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On June 07 2020 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: If people dont really understand what i am saying i think Vivax might be planting ideas to people's head here without saying it. Okay? Find me an idea I tried to 'plant' without supporting the idea. If I have an exhibit that allows me explanation A and B and I'm trying to explain A but you think I'm explaining B, that's planting ideas in peoples heads? Really contrived narrative there. | ||
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Like idk what your goal here is. If you're asking me to have a scumread on TT, that's old stuff. But I don't see how you can't reach zey by PoE here, so it gives me the feeling you're kinda protective of her. Kneejerk reaction after the lynch was for TT to sr zey and for you to go after TT and not take into consideration who your scumread is partnered with. | ||
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So I have to figure out if I was right on TT + zey from D1, or if rayn mafia is trying to push TT first who I maybe was wrong on so he and zey win. By my logic, I always want to lynch zey first. | ||
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On June 08 2020 01:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why are you completely dismissing shockeyy? For what reason is that? Because i dont really see a reason why he could not be mafia. He knows he isn't a stellar town player, but it's obvious he really wants to lynch scum. Obvious to me at least. | ||
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On June 08 2020 01:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: can you elaborate on some of his reasoning? other than that he wants to lynch the same people you do. Eh it's not his reasoning I read him from, it's more of him being cooperative, posting his thoughts freely, occasionally shitposting. Gives me relaxed town vibes, similarly to jeekaka, though admittedly I found her recent reasoning bad (but not enough to shift my read atm). Whereas zey has a very clean way of posting about lots of things but overall doesn't strike me as she had any committment to this game besides existing and looking contributive, and doesn't look like she's trying to have fun at points. I didn't spot anything yet that gave me red flags, I'm really just looking at the attitude the players approach the game with and guessing the intention behind posts. | ||
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On June 08 2020 01:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: jeekaka do you think zey "has fun" at mafia games as town? To describe it better. While zeys posts are neat and so to say politically correct, they lack the kind of townie 'being erratic'-ness. It's more like zey approaches the game with an attitude where she's doing her homework diligently, but what gives her away is that while appearing very diligent she doesn't seem to have a clear place her head is at. It's more like whenever she finds something worth mentioning, she mentions it, but for the sake of mentioning it. | ||
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She just did a bit of homework on the available players based on things that one could write about and then placed the vote on the most likely mislynch anyway. Like filling out a form, but not really caring for its outcome. | ||
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On June 08 2020 02:40 jeekaka wrote: Yeah and I think she makes herself kinda vulnerable by admitting it that way. Well no she doesn't admit it she hides it behind a flurry of words. | ||
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I can not prove it until he flips but him being town is one of the few certainties I'm working with. | ||
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I mean, if mafia can just say they behave in a certain way because of language issues and that's sort of a town baby seal argument, then we can't win either way if you're town here rayn and that doesn't convince you. | ||
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In which case the game outcome is mostly up to TickTock. | ||
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On June 08 2020 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: You got cold feet Vivax? Why, do you sell socks? | ||
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In case I'm not around tomorrow. Plan for me would be still zey -> TT With a buffer after zey to find out if rayn is playing us. | ||
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TT + rayn final answer | ||
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Townreading me after voting me for two days straight just was a method of giving hinself an excuse for that imo | ||
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Because it‘s his teammate?Presumably. I saw the jockey vote similarly to a scumclaim. | ||
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Now would be his time to really shine but he's just not here. | ||
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On June 08 2020 23:53 Zey wrote: So you still think rayn is scum. Please tell me where I got wrong then. Why did rayn say on the N2 that he thinks that me and Vivax are town? Why he decided as scum to make such opinions that he is forced to vote you (which is so unlikely to get any townies votes (if the case is that he is scum with TT)) or his scumpartner? Well no he isn't forced to vote Shockeyy. He could vote TT too, but decided not to for reasons I can only guess. On June 08 2020 23:55 Zey wrote: Can you tell me why TT and Vivax aren't mafia together? Can you tell me why you don't want to vote TT if you think he could be scum? | ||
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1. Rayn + TT: Jeekaka at night was growing skeptical of rayn, so got iced. Also nice N1 blue snipe on Jock. Meanwhile rayn worked to win over your (zeys) vote for LYLO, successfully. 2. TT + Zey: Jeekaka started growing skeptical of zey, so got iced. Jock called zeys entrance scummy, so got iced, or maybe was too townread. Rayn got into a town zey tunnel and will never lynch zey, so he is kept alive. 3. There is no 3. Those are the possible combinations, because I'm sure Shockeyy is town. If you are town zey, I inform you that lynching Shockeyy imo will lose the game, but that's just me. | ||
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On June 09 2020 01:01 Zey wrote: Well that's my point (except you shouldn't guess reasons anymore because rayn already told us why he is voting Sho) His only reason for voting Sho is true only if rayn is town which you think is always true. He didn't give a single reason for Sho to be mafia. Just said he can be the only mafia besides TT, so he should vote TT, but he votes Sho instead. | ||
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On June 03 2020 11:07 Tictock wrote: Oh cool I'm caught up. So pretty solid on Cake/Rayn/Jock being my towncircle. I still wanna call trfel town, but there is a wifom thing that has wondering if I'm giving him a pass too easy. Vivax has made almost zero impression on me despite seeming to think I'm mafia? Jeeka feels odd to me, but I'm glad rayn made that language post because both Jeeka and Zey have been a little hard for me to read as I'm not totally sure I'm following their post logic. Sho is clearly actively doing nothing and shitting up the game. It's actually confounding to me that nobody else has called it out. ##Vote: ShoCkeyy mafia post. My sentiment: On June 04 2020 02:37 Vivax wrote: This has to be a troll game right. On June 04 2020 02:37 Vivax wrote: Fuck you rayn | ||
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On June 09 2020 01:27 Zey wrote: Okay. I'm going to walk with my dog now but before that I want to say this: I don't think there is any change that Vivax is town because either he isn't reading posts at all or he just twist things how ever he wants. Either way it's scummy as hell. rayn, wouldn't you be okay with voting Vivax? Ok this is probably the towniest post I have seen from you recently. Because really, I'm bringing out the big guns and only derpy town could see it as scummy. By the way, let me rephrase what rayn is saying: TT IS MAFIA BUT ONLY SHOCKEYY CAN BE MAFIA WITH HIM, SO LET'S VOTE SHOCKEYY. Now I'll throw you a bone: Rayn is scum, TT is scum. Where is TT, and why does rayn not say why Shockeyy is mafia for his play. | ||
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It means rayn lulled you in by playing like he's your bodyguard. It's like you two play together at all times. So it's either you + TT and rayn is not playing to win, or it's rayn + TT but you think of rayn as your tip town friend without reconsidering. | ||
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We're probably gonna lose if TT flips mafia today and that's gonna be mostly on me then. scumslip deluxe | ||
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Zey is essentially just a player that‘s going to +1 what rayn does. Invalid game tbh | ||
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On June 09 2020 04:27 Zey wrote: If you want me to reconsider rayn you need to do more than just twist rayns words, repeat yourself and act like a child. Ok boomer | ||
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Next time let‘s go for the safe play. | ||
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This doesn‘t feel like an honest game. | ||
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Zey wasn't receptive to arguments against rayn brought forth in a civil manner, and neither in an uncivil manner. Zey thinks she's going to help people she knows and likes, and that's playing mafia? | ||
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And you also know that zey is helping you for no reason other 'but muh forum friend' | ||
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And to quote you, "if we lynch TT and he flips mafia we lose." You know, I don't even know why the hosts bother? You brought a player into the game that just willfully ignores anything that could make you scum. We should honestly just cancel the game and nobody wins, because I don't see how I beat a mafia in the mafia game. | ||
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Jeekaka and zey are clearly more used to the relaxed type of games, and I am kind of in the wrong game to tryhard I guess? So, uhhhh. How were your riots today? | ||
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On June 09 2020 05:53 ShoCkeyy wrote: Vivax just vote for me. I don't want to spend another day trying to convince people. I already have to deal enough with the U.S cops throwing bombs outside of my window every night, and getting no sleep. Alright fam. Let's call it a game. Try to get some rest. Btw I'm afraid for the US. Weird forces at work there. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote Zey | ||
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Granted I think both Sho and zey are losing lynches and you aren't questioning why rayn is alive, but killing zey would give me some satisfaction. | ||
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On June 10 2020 03:50 Tictock wrote: Actually wait, so you think both your votes end the game, think I could be scum with rayn, but are just cool with letting things go the way the are right now? Vivax if I am scum here, why in the hell aren't I just letting the game afk on Sho? Well for one I would think it would look bad if I just piled on the top wagon after being afk for a long time without at least pretending to be questioning things. And next I'm cool with letting things go either way because I have given up on winning the game yesterday. | ||
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On June 10 2020 04:03 Zey wrote: So instead of pointing where I got wrong (and I was willing to discuss and asking where my deduction went wrong if rayn is scum) he just accuse me not reconsidering rayn and just accusing about friendship mafia. If he is town and he think rayn is scum why doesn't he try to explain why my opinion about rayn is wrong, where my deduction is wrong. But nothing. It seems to me that there is anything wrong so he couldn't say anything and only thing he could was trying to appeal to emotions. What I pointed out that made rayn at least sketchy you rebutted with 'twisting words'. Then you copied it for yourself. | ||
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Somehow they push the narrative that the game is TT + X and we always lynch X first. And I'm saying this for the third or fourth time. | ||
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On June 10 2020 04:25 Tictock wrote: Humm the pages of arguments between Rayn/Vivax are kinda interesting, pg 31ish. I mean it's a bit all over the place since there is clearly a fair bit of jumping to assumptions and misreading what the other has said. I just get the feeling that rayn is beating his head on a wall and Vivax is much more aloof. Then given the last few posts from Vivax today, think he could very easily be mafia here. I dunno who he's be mafia with though, would have said Zey but he put his vote on Zey so quick with me today I don't think that possible. Oh and these arguments mean for sure Vivax/Rayn are not a team. Does anyone have solid reasons to think rayn is mafia here? I mean I put him in my yolo team since he and Zey were first on the Shop wagon, but tbh the thing that makes me consider scum!rayn is the fear due to him still being alive. Just stop pretending because you're bored, do the last minute switch or don't, because both wagons are wrong. Even rayn has the decency to not give a damn right now, why can't you. | ||
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It's that simple. | ||
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On June 10 2020 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Here's another point. Do you realise that Shockeyy GAVE UP before TT ever arrived back to the thread. There is simply no reason to give up for shockeyy at that point (as the votes are 2-2) unless shockeyy thinks TT is mafia and that would mean one of me and zey is town (and voting for him -> giving mafia a win). But when TT comes back and votes for Zey, hooray the mafia team suddenly changes into rayn + zey! Like there is simply no reason ever shockeyy should just buy that at face value, because for GIVING UP he must be REALLY FUCKING SURE that TT is mafia. Well if you're town and the only who appears to be coming in to rescue you is TT, why wouldn't you think TT is town? | ||
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TT + rayn. And TT is really obvious, rayn only because he's alive and voted town three days straight. | ||
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The winner of this game is rayns third party of forum friends that play to help, not to win. | ||
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I have never seen or called out cheating in TL history but it's clear that this game rayn had 'outside help'. Really disappointed. | ||
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I'd also rather have obsed this game than being trolled by rayn bringing his yes-men to a game. Not just that, he thinks he won fairly LOL | ||
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It's obvious she didn't want to lynch him but at the start of the day was still floating him around in mafia combinations. | ||
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On June 10 2020 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because you filled your D3 reads with bullshit and she thought you are mafia which means i am not because you called me mafia for bullshit reasons and she had no choice other than to vote for shockeyy because i refused to vote for you until the end. You should actually read the game some time. Yea just call everything I say bullshit, but I didn't weasel my way to an unfair win and then act high and mighty. | ||
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On June 10 2020 06:25 Hapahauli wrote: People bringing "friends" is how this site grows. Hell, bring your friends and have them play! Yeah, it'll probably be a trainwreck their first game here, but I think it's worth it. I play irl with them, here they'd just lynch me for the schadenfreude and tbh not many have the english required. | ||
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On June 10 2020 06:37 Tictock wrote: Is "schadenfreude" kinda like, shits n giggles? I think I've heard the term before More like taking joy from others misery. The ones who would maybe play mafia would get on my nerves just for fun. It's like bringing zey and jeekaka but then they work against you, because it's so funny when I get a temper. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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I didn't start playing in a snake pit of assholery back when marv and a few others were around without a reason. This game is about arguing, and arguments without emotion are boring. Looking back, the most funny things like Tunkegs rage-poem in the game iamp quit mafia (I think) were some of the funniest things I have experienced. Or Imperial mafia with the 100 pages D1. + Show Spoiler + On December 15 2012 02:47 Tunkeg wrote: Half a league half a league, Half a league onward, All in the valley of Death Rode the six hundred: 'Forward, the Light Brigade! Charge for the guns' he said: Into the valley of Death Rode the six hundred. 'Forward, the Light Brigade!' Was there a man dismay'd ? Not tho' the soldier knew Some one had blunder'd: Theirs not to make reply, Theirs not to reason why, Theirs but to do & die, Into the valley of Death Rode the six hundred. Cannon to right of them, Cannon to left of them, Cannon in front of them Volley'd & thunder'd; Storm'd at with shot and shell, Boldly they rode and well, Into the jaws of Death, Into the mouth of Hell Rode the six hundred. Flash'd all their sabres bare, Flash'd as they turn'd in air Sabring the gunners there, Charging an army while All the world wonder'd: Plunged in the battery-smoke Right thro' the line they broke; Cossack & Russian Reel'd from the sabre-stroke, Shatter'd & sunder'd. Then they rode back, but not Not the six hundred. Cannon to right of them, Cannon to left of them, Cannon behind them Volley'd and thunder'd; Storm'd at with shot and shell, While horse & hero fell, They that had fought so well Came thro' the jaws of Death, Back from the mouth of Hell, All that was left of them, Left of six hundred. When can their glory fade? O the wild charge they made! All the world wonder'd. Honour the charge they made! Honour the Light Brigade, Noble six hundred! + Show Spoiler + In other word follow your leader, Palmar, even if he dropped the ball on this one, and got talked around by the most overrated player on TL Mafia. He won't do it again this game. Follow him for the rest of the time he is here. Also lynch VE and Hapa. On December 15 2012 02:51 marvellosity wrote: Hey Tunkeg! Go walk off a cliff and die, you scummy, arrogant, awful little shit. On December 15 2012 02:51 Tunkeg wrote: Go fuck yourself you smug arrogant fucker :D | ||
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On June 10 2020 07:08 GlowingBear wrote: I did a huge move, it was just godlike genius, and they threw it away in the trash can. I still mourn this loss RIP Post UK passport with the check next time. Seriously what's with this game and english people. | ||
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On June 10 2020 07:31 ShoCkeyy wrote: Talking about HF: https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/26252-Season-7-Game-9-Team-Fortress-2-The-Mafia-Championship His game started. BIO: I don't know what to write here. I'm TL.net's last resort, probably the worst mafia player you've ever seen. I've won no awards and get lynched frequently. I'm probably the easiest mafia to spot in the world. So, why am I here? Well, someone had to represent our dying website and I'm it. I'm just here to have a good time, post conservatively and make friends with everyone. If I clam up and write nothing, lynch me, I'm mafia. Some fun stats for you all: I've won 1/15 games that I've rolled mafia in and I was lynched day 1 and got carried hard. I'm voted consistently each year, "Least likely to improve" by my peers (thanks guys). XDDDDDDDDDDD ![[image loading]](https://media.tenor.com/images/417715538a572432f53deeb681d5a425/tenor.gif) | ||
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