EPT[M][N] Holy Guardians - Chapter 2 - Page 10
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raynpelikoneet
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Vivax
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On April 05 2020 21:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am just gonna say Vivax, if you think i would ever as mafia townread someone for absolutely nothing (i have weird reasons - for other people - to townread people at times as either alignment, but for nothing is not one of them), i dont think you know me that well. This is not even saying i can't be mafia it's just saying that reasoning of yours is absolutely idiotic. But it wasn't an explicit townread, you just said there were only townies in the thread. As for the other stuff, not convinced of Hapa, there's just too little in his filter to be able to jump to a conclusion. Needs to post more, until then null. And if you think his filter is alignment indicative already you are bad or mafia imo. As for Jock, he really didn't do much besides sort of tunneling Trfel. There's this which could be regarded as looking at something else besides Trfel but it's just a whole bunch of nothing and also looks bad. On April 05 2020 14:23 Jockmcplop wrote: What do you think of Shockeyy's entrance? His tone seems weird to me. I don't know what that means for shockeyy though tbh. It's like he thinks Shockey should look scummy but is afraid to say he thinks he does. | ||
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Jockmcplop
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Vivax I already explained, he just has that spark when he's trying to solve, and you can see it here. This is a meta read though so its always a chance that this is the game where scum Vivax changes his meta. He's probably town though. Bloody keeps saying things that I'm thinking and although that's fakeable so early in the game, I find it far more likely that he sees the game similarly to me because he's town. I wouldn't lynch rayn here because he *seems* townie, but historically I can't read rayn for shit so I'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt really. I'll filter him in a minute and see if anything jumps out. I like the long post alot. Chez I wouldn't lynch also because I can't read him. He's very entertaining though so best keep him alive. Everyone else can die until we find scum, probably in the following order, scummiest first: haphauli - Not really much to say other than I agree with bloody and rayn but he needs to come and be town or he gets lynched. Rels Nothing. Shockeyy Need to see more from shockeyy but he seems a bit too laid back if you know what i mean. Almost like he can't be bothered. Said he wants to have more interactions with other people so I want to see what happens if he does. Trfel I have explained. He responded okay to pressure but I still think his case on rayn was poor and he pulled out the 'trying to get people talking' line that mafia loves. I'm trying to avoid tunnelling on him though because I've done that before when he was town. So yeah my two biggest scumreads have barely posted. I guess that shows where I am in this game at the moment. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Jockmcplop
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On April 05 2020 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dont think you have explained Trfel though, at least i have a hard time knowing where you stand on him and why. You're right for some reason I thought I already posted about this. I question his motivations and his tone bothers me. I don't really have a case on him or anything its more that his tone seems strange, like.... diplomatic or politiciany. It felt like he was trying to disarm me with friendliness. He certainly hasn't said anything that would make me townread him and I find myself questioning his motives, as you saw before. He's at the bottom of my lynchpile because he seems to have some logic behind his reads that *could* be townie, and stayed calm when I pressured him. On balance, though, I think if there's a 4 person lynchpile he belongs in it. | ||
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Jockmcplop
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What is that logic you're talking about [quote] The post I bolded earlier in the thread and you mentioned it. I stick by that. It just looks like the kind of logic town would use in deciding early reads. Its not enough to counter the bad feeling i get about him though. [quote]and why wouldn't a guy who is mafia stay calm in Trfele's case? I mean like do you have something to support your assumption that Trfel would freak out for what you said to him if he is mafia or?[/QUOTE] I didn't assume trfel would freak out. Some mafia freeze up or change tone slightly in response to pressure and he didn't. | ||
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Jockmcplop
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On April 05 2020 21:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: What is that logic you're talking about The post I bolded earlier in the thread and you mentioned it. I stick by that. It just looks like the kind of logic town would use in deciding early reads. Its not enough to counter the bad feeling i get about him though. and why wouldn't a guy who is mafia stay calm in Trfele's case? I mean like do you have something to support your assumption that Trfel would freak out for what you said to him if he is mafia or? I didn't assume trfel would freak out. Some mafia freeze up or change tone slightly in response to pressure and he didn't. | ||
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Jockmcplop
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On April 05 2020 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: the thing is the logic is completely wrong. OK. I agreed with it at the time and it seemed like a genuine bit of logic town would use to try and work things out. I don't want to ignore it just because you disagree with the premise. | ||
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Jockmcplop
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On April 05 2020 21:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: I mentioned it btw because while it is incredibly wrong i think you wouldn't not take advantage of that if you were mafia (and if he was town). It is still incredibly wrong and i am not sure how your answer (and read on him) clears up the confusion about that because you should be re-evaluating shit when people tell you something is fundamentally wrong. I am re-evaluating though. I re-evaluated and came to the conclusion that it wouldn't be smart for mafia to make a post like that. He has to stick to that logic later in the game, so we can file it under 'useful' for later, unless you want to lynch him now, and we can agree to disagree about whether the accuracy of the statement means we can't give him townpoints for posting it. | ||
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Jockmcplop
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On April 05 2020 22:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Maybe i am just bad but i don't really understand you right now because you seem to be saying Trfel is not mafia but your vote is still on him? I'm not saying that. That one or two sentences he posted made me think town, but because of his tone and the way interacting with him felt to me he's a scumlean. Its not that hard to understand tbh and I said the same thing a few posts up. My vote was only still on trfel because i hadn't moved it yet. ##unvote ##vote: shockeyy | ||
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Vivax
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raynpelikoneet
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On April 05 2020 21:15 Jockmcplop wrote: Everyone else can die until we find scum, probably in the following order, scummiest first: haphauli - Not really much to say other than I agree with bloody and rayn but he needs to come and be town or he gets lynched. Rels Nothing. Shockeyy Need to see more from shockeyy but he seems a bit too laid back if you know what i mean. Almost like he can't be bothered. Said he wants to have more interactions with other people so I want to see what happens if he does. Trfel I have explained. He responded okay to pressure but I still think his case on rayn was poor and he pulled out the 'trying to get people talking' line that mafia loves. I'm trying to avoid tunnelling on him though because I've done that before when he was town. So yeah my two biggest scumreads have barely posted. I guess that shows where I am in this game at the moment. into On April 05 2020 22:19 Jockmcplop wrote: I'm not saying that. That one or two sentences he posted made me think town, but because of his tone and the way interacting with him felt to me he's a scumlean. Its not that hard to understand tbh and I said the same thing a few posts up. My vote was only still on trfel because i hadn't moved it yet. ##unvote ##vote: shockeyy I gotta nap on it, but it looks like a thing to lynch for sure. | ||
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