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On August 17 2019 14:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Ahahaha Vivax you should do that every game slam hosts ^^ Special tactics :> Are you mafia rayn? | ||
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On August 17 2019 16:01 Fecalfeast wrote: I play the same every game; barely read the thread and make tone reads that are maybe a little more accurate than a coinflip, latch onto the reads I do get correct and act as if I'm any good at the game when I never actually got anything done Well I rather asked why you replied obviously, which somehow implies that you think you are easily readable as town by now. And given that and thinking a bit about it while writing the post, I think that's rather townie. | ||
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Anyway, we aren't going to get anywhere with just that townread on me. | ||
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Why is Cop asking about my meta? Possibly playing dumb here? I'm pretty sure she had an idea of my meta at some point., although I don't know if I rolled mafia vs her. | ||
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On August 18 2019 01:30 CopCake wrote: Yeah idc about metas because as some of you should (must) know I am not even that active, just wanted to see some reactions since it is pretty dumb to say “this guy is town because he doesnt post that much as mafia” rip. Also too early to make filters Jock. That is actually the most accurate way of reading me. If I don't have a game to solve my motivation drops to zilch quickly, I'll usually stare at my blank text box while not sure what to write, since actually I want to write as little as possible knowing I don't win scum marathons. Were the reactions satisfactory at least? | ||
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On August 18 2019 02:25 Jockmcplop wrote: Well I just compared his post history in the general forum to his list of games in the mafia database and there are zero posts when he is playing as mafia and plenty when he's town. I'm not going to try this with each specific area of tl.net cos I can't be bothered. Call it bullshit if you want but it makes perfect sense to me. He's eager to play as town and is browsing tl.net while waiting for something to happen in thread, he doesn't do that as mafia. That's how it seems to me anyway. Yes you hit the nail on the head. Why the "call it bullshit if you want?" though. | ||
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On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: And why is that? Because you are scum | ||
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Okay. I was honestly super tempted to keep writing but I wanted to see the reply expecting town rayn to either laugh at the obvious circular reasoning or get mad about it and put me on /ignore. I have to say I'm disappointed not to see that. Is there any reason you just sound so differently from the last times I saw you playing town? Yes/No would suffice. | ||
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On August 18 2019 02:59 Holyflare wrote: Wanna vote him with me? That's my jam recently. I'd definitely do it if I were mafia. But right now I'd like to just see rayn post more, and you too cause this suggestion was lazy and bad. | ||
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On August 18 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Who cares jock? Why does cake mske that read as mafia? What do you mean who cares. It should be obvious to any townie that right now the game is pretty stale, Jock is trying to move it forward cause he feels it too (wildly guessing). This is also mafia-y from you. You don't recognize the game's situation from what I think is a townie point of view and make it all about the content in jocks post. | ||
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On August 18 2019 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: No Vivax. It doesnt matter to me because shit reads are shit reads and i think that questioning already will end up in a shit read. You could argue cake would make that read if she is mafia exactly with hf but i dont thonk thats the case here or at least the current evidence doesnt suggest that in any way. So the other outcome is useless discussion about something irrelevant. Could you describe mafia cake? You are very confident in your townread, so it should be doable. | ||
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And I'm guessing that eywa overslept the start of the game. | ||
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On August 18 2019 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: No Vivax. It doesnt matter to me because shit reads are shit reads and i think that questioning already will end up in a shit read. You could argue cake would make that read if she is mafia exactly with hf but i dont thonk thats the case here or at least the current evidence doesnt suggest that in any way. So the other outcome is useless discussion about something irrelevant. Why couldn't she do it if HF is town? Is there a cake mafia meta where she hard defends teammates? | ||
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On August 18 2019 05:00 Jockmcplop wrote: Pfft. Whatever copcake. I'd like to know what everyone else thinks about all this. To me it looks like everything you are posting is contradictory and nonsensical. Yep that's how I scumread her when she was town too | ||
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On August 18 2019 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Would you make that read if youre mafia and hf is town? I'd be suicidal as mafia if I tried to lynch HF on a D1, which is why it's a wet dream of mine. To add to the previous post: Townies tend to be hypocrites all the time. Or at least are more prone to accusing others of things they did themselves. Mafia doesn't think they know how mafia thinks, they just know it. So they don't get hypocritical if they try to keep the story straight and remember what they posted. When I'm mafia, accusing someone of something I did myself while being conscious about having done it would give me the feeling that I'm leading you straight to myself. But anyway, I think that, even if the little theory is completely wrong, at most cake's hypocrisy should be treated as null. | ||
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If I were mafia, I'd not throw an early read at HF like that, most likely. I'd probably only start building a scumread on him if he was looking my way for the lynch. | ||
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On August 18 2019 05:22 CopCake wrote: And wouldnt jock be all buddy buddy trying to town read you? Just a question. Yes if I didn't townread him already for being helpful at baiting more content and invested in his reads. What makes you think he is faking his suspicion on you? | ||
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On August 18 2019 05:34 CopCake wrote: Where did I claim he is faking suspicion on me? I had the impression you two were at it trying to find something to poke the other because of his claim that your read on HF is wrong or scummy, and your claim that it was too early for his read on me. You didn't try to find out what that was about without being suspicious about Jock? | ||
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So I suppose I'm back to killing rayn. | ||
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On August 18 2019 23:53 reps)squishy wrote: You could. However I just went to bed forty minutes after catching up and making my comment. (I just woke and the first thing I did was check responses). Psychologically I don’t like Vivax’s “if I were mafia” sentient, seems like OJ Simpson’s “If I did it”. I know Vivax knows that he will not convince us of him being town in D1. I am suspicious of him because he has played that sentiment multiple times now if you read their filter. What does this mean? That's not at all how I read the game. I've been doing my thing and from the start I was showered with townreads. Sure, if someone made that read, then I commented on its reasoning, like when jock pointed out I was posting in other threads, because it was also a good line of thought that you call playing sentiment. | ||
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On August 19 2019 00:34 reps)squishy wrote: Because if you were town, you would want to get a read on each other. Best way to do that is not sitting passive, but quoting a post and getting them to talk. As far as not voting for each other is that you guys don’t want to lynch a veteran D1. Not that you guys are town reading each other I complained about HF not posting enough for my liking. Twice iirc. And you say I don't consider veterans for lynch while I've had my eye on rayn all day. More false facts. I really don't know what game you are reading. More likely you're just scum tbh. | ||
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I thought it was obvious yes | ||
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On August 19 2019 02:45 Holyflare wrote: Oh :D Sorry lol. House move went good, just chilling out! GF's parents came to visit yesterday for her bday. Bought a bike and a digital piano and going climbing a lot so basically just enjoying not having a job for a while. Sweet. Do you do the climbing where you carry your rope along the route or along fixed rope routes? | ||
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Ok guys why is this dude not mafia? His reads are a joke. The first thing he brings up is a combo of HF me and throughout his entire filter I don't see a reason for either of us being standalone scum besides the OJ simpson thing. | ||
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On August 19 2019 00:08 reps)squishy wrote: Rayn is an interesting one. Definitely not on good ground with Vivax and HF from the go. That could mean to things to me town since it’s ballsy or mafia planting seeds of doubt into the veterans Which one is it? Everyone knows that rayn is town or scum. | ||
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On August 19 2019 02:58 Jockmcplop wrote: Shit reads ≠ mafia He's not in my town pile. Not caring enough to read properly in a <10 pages game = mafia. Although then I might as well lynch Chezinu, but at least he didn't pretend to be useful. | ||
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You know that this guy stops talking as soon as you don't give him enough attention. That's also mafia-y. | ||
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On August 19 2019 03:12 CopCake wrote: I think is dumb to assume he is mafia for that, like seriously... "Hello I am squishy and I am going to direct attack vocal veterans because why the fuck not and get all the attention to me" That is the world you are giving me. So you townread people for attacking veterans? Must be easy to be mafia against you. If I weren't sure that it's definitely not an argumentation you're going to apply to everyone simply because you wouldn't agree that all mafia go after lynch bait. | ||
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On August 19 2019 03:16 CopCake wrote: He could also use an afk, but not, he went directly to see the "active" players and try to make something out of it, he could be like the others and be all like "Oh I was busy with irl, I'll be back I am doing this thing in real life". No because HF called him out and I voted him and he was the most threatened at the time he started posting reads. | ||
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https://tl.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-database Either way, he hasn't done as much this game as in his other two games. He had 3 pages in his town game before being lynched D1. | ||
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On August 19 2019 03:19 CopCake wrote: Nah mate, I have said so many times before that I don't care for metas and who I have to attack but my style is not the same as what I have seen so far here "Omg let's not kill veterans because they might be useful later", if you follow meta, you follow those rules no? Yes I also think that's not a rule to apply to veterans. Sicklucker loves to apply that rule to me, although I imagine he expects it in return. Also, it isn't as common right now as you think. Last D1s I played were rayn and Palmar lynches. But what does it have to do with you townreading squishy just cause he breaks that meta? You can extend that read to me and HF for rayn. It's just not going to read much correctly. | ||
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On August 01 2013 02:44 reps)squishy wrote: I was about to vote RDaneelOlivaw, But people think Umasi and I have a alliance and to assure you I think it's kind of scummy for bandwagoning with me. So I decided ##vote Umasi Btw this is him voting the mafia that won the game on D1. | ||
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I'd be suicidal as mafia if I tried to lynch HF on a D1, which is why it's a wet dream of mine. | ||
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On August 19 2019 04:28 CopCake wrote: Ok vivax Give me your town reads You can have my scumreads: Rayn and squishy | ||
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On January 07 2017 12:40 reps)squishy wrote: [b]@Grackaroni/b] your evidence that Vivax was a townie was no different than just singling out his post like you can do here. I have suspicions of vivax nothing AI otherwise I would have voted. But a failure to show that he is a townie makes my suspicions grow. Do we honestly need to vote for Vivax for you to finally give evidence he is a townie? From his scum game. He scum read me even there (when most townread me) and I got killed N1 mind you. | ||
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On August 19 2019 07:26 Chezinu wrote: I afk the first 24 hours of Day 1. I'm not as free as I use to be. Aren't you now? Help me out here if you're town. | ||
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On August 19 2019 07:33 Holyflare wrote: Here's my thinking. Out of the list of afkers, Chezinu has posted what I can only imagine is a trick asking how many mafia players there are which seems kind of like a town thing to do. FF has posted things and will be back allegedly. Rayn can be held accountable for his transgressions. That leaves Eywa and WARDER. Warder is a smurf and all smurfs must die. Fine. At least it rules out a disastrous lynch like the two last ones I saw. ##Vote warder | ||
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I move all responsibility for this lynch to HF | ||
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On August 19 2019 13:52 reps)squishy wrote: Chezinu's posts have zero substance. Lynching a lurker is ok, but I really don't think he'll turn out to be mafia. WARDER is getting auto-killed from not posting. What is the point of voting for him? I think it's weird that Vivax dropped the vote on me. Follow through with the shots you take! Don't try to vote me because I looked juicy and people didn't jump on board so you go for someone who has not made a single post. Copcake yo I don't need your protection. But I am suspicious of people who are on my case. Nah it makes perfect sense. This is a game where either you have those who only ever listen to themselves apparently, yet don't make an effort to get a real lynch going or those who are flat out not playing or playing in a way that doesn't help anyone (Chez). Since I try not to fall into that group this game, I settled for Warder. | ||
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On August 19 2019 23:01 Eywa- wrote: Hey guys, my bad WP on day 1, keeping with the cop kill strat. 😂 I'll catch up as it seems I haven't been mod killed yet. You can be instantly town for this post. | ||
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I think so, from a scum game I played with him. | ||
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What if Chez actually always tells the truth as both alignments, but disguises it as nonsense? :o Cop + Chez tinfoil team? | ||
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On August 20 2019 01:57 CopCake wrote: Cop x chez team up is bullshit I liked your post about doubting FF but might I ask why? @Vivax Yea the cop x chez teamup wasn't a serious post. On August 19 2019 13:01 Fecalfeast wrote: Please review the posts I put the most effort into in a mafia game since like 2015, everyone. Then vote copcake or tell me why she's being like this as town This is the reason. Although I don't think I'm going to give it too much weight for now. It would be pretty unfair towards him if it's genuine effort. Seems kind of convenient for you to like my reasoning though. FF is scumreading you. | ||
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On August 20 2019 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: So here is what happened at the start of the game. People post some random shit. Vivax asks me if i am mafia. Vivax makes a couple of posts on FF where he is actually trying to do something and has some sort of a thought process (as in his "reaction test" or whatever shit that was on me). So well Vivax is already town here. There is no legwork to be done here because he should be read probably town here anyways. Jock's reasoning seems overexplained to me so i ask him about it. Jock doesn't freeze or give any bullshit answer -- just weird way of thinking things imo. Vivax seems to be thinking Cake is mafia. Cake seems to be thinking Jock is mafia. Jock seems to be thinking Cake is mafia. I hard-conter the "case" of Cake calling HF mafia comes from mafia because it doesn't make any sense. I dont really see any reasoning (other than Cake's on Jock later on) that could possibly be something else than mine. Jock doesn't actually call Cake anything until a bit later (when he agrees with HF's list), but inbetween there Cake doesn't really post anything regarding his argument earlier, and there are no other reasons presented for Cake being town other than mine, so why should i assume something else? Same goes with Vivax, i don't see why he'd change his mind unless it is for what i said (as we even discussed it). So yeah, you can say i didn't do it all but i was part of all the discussion in the thread at the time and the conclusion HF comes to is that i "have posted nothing". If you want to fucking nitpick like he does then yeah, this is simply a lie because i was actually there posting and even if i hadn't posted ANYTHING of substance (which is not the case here) that's still i lie because i have pretty much 2 pages of filter from that time. Also yeah, i didn't expicitly say where my townreads on Vivax and Jock come from but i didn't think i need to say that because those were pretty obvious reads to make and furthermore, if you have ever played with me and use any portion of your brain cells you can tell if i think someone is mafia or not purely based on how i answer to them and or / if i question tham and in which manner that happens. But apparently people don't use any brain anymore in these games. This is most likely the last mafia game i will ever play. Game is not for me when there is a "tone scum read" on me based on some bullshit question, then there are some mafiascum scrubs playing who can't form a (gameplaywise) reasonable sentence other than "youre mafia because your role pm says you are mafia". At least HF actually tries to provide some reasoning behind his reads, but that's also bad because he's nitpicking every fucking word in people's posts and when someone else does that nobody ever cares -- he gets away with it as mafia and loses games as town, and that's bad. But noone cares. And almost all the rest of the people afk the shit out, dont post at all and dont vote. What's the point of the game? Like i can discuss the game with squishy, ff, jock and cake but that's it. Others can go fuck themselves because that's not playing mafia. I havent done anything scummy in this game yet noone even seems to be having a reasonable read on me, Based on what i HAVE done (saying i havent done anything is just simply incorrect). I don't see a reason to discuss shit with anyone because even the players on the list above dont seem to be caring fuck about what i have to say. What should I say dude? Last games I played I had at least one mafia pointed out by the time I got N1d and not just that, I tried to stop both you and Palmar from being mislynched, and by the way you decided to throw the game by not claiming mason. Both of those mafias made it to endgame. It's also toxic AF for the game that it has become possible to lynch obvious townies or obviously shitty lynches. Have you seen Palmar since? In your case you decided consciously to get mislynched. So I tend to flail about pretty quickly when I see that trend of cba/lazyness/being busy coming up in you and HF, who also "grew up" with much more active games. And you don't get not to apply self criticism in all of that. No matter what you say, up until this post your game has seemed uninterested, like when you replied to me about my scumread, and then you post an anti-town rant post that is within the range of emotional investment I could see from town rayn. Except that town rayn would want to make sure his mafia reads get lynched, and not that everyone who doesn't townread him gets shat on. | ||
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On July 23 2019 20:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Tbh Koshi i will not let you play like you have past couple of games, i mean like "shitting on players" and making one-liners despite how good or bad they are. You are reasonably good player when youre town and you're gonna own it up here if you are town. I dont like your opening at all, because you have a huge ego and you saying you being lynched is okay doesn't sit well there, regardless of how busy you claim to be. I also don't like you calling both me and HF weird because regardless of what your conclusion of our argument is you should have one. Right now you don't have any, when in fact all the conclusions and thought processes of ours are in the thread, and that to me looks like you want to fuel the (useless and "solved") argument wothout taking any side on anything. It's at best shitty play. I have a gut feeling that Slam is town and FF is mafia. I can't really go further into that in a reasonable way but that's how i feel. Especially towards FF i even myself think my argument is shitty but yeah, that's how i feel at the moment. I don't think there is anything to be said about Tubesock and i also think HF makes a fair point on coag. I also consider HF town for like 95% sure and i don't think i am gonna change my opinion on that in this game based on how fucking convoluted his assumed "town!argument" of his early posting would be in case he was mafia. I will say though if you are mafia this game i am going to vote for you in every single further game when you even imply you didn't read even one word in the OP. ![]() What he describes is what he's doing himself this game. Not throughout the entirety of his filter, but a significant part. Besides, his big post's good intentions also giving a lot of reads throughout it in his town game doesn't match his big post here. | ||
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On August 25 2019 19:34 Holyflare wrote: Are you fucking serious copcake? Always counter claim. ALWAYS. #riggedTLgames | ||
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On August 25 2019 20:35 Holyflare wrote: It's hard to lynch an un ccd cop my dude. He wouldn't have gotten that far without that bluff | ||
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