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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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August 09 2019 09:03 GMT
#17
/in
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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August 10 2019 00:14 GMT
#22
On August 10 2019 07:33 Eywa- wrote:
I don't love bastard games

/in


This is a normal as far as I'm aware. I hope.
Holyflare
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August 14 2019 09:48 GMT
#51
/confirm
Holyflare
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August 17 2019 09:48 GMT
#95
Where is the deadline?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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August 17 2019 11:31 GMT
#98
On August 17 2019 20:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2019 18:48 Holyflare wrote:
Where is the deadline?


6am for us hf.
Gotta get up early if we want to shenan some igans.


Hard pass :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 17 2019 15:16 GMT
#104
On August 17 2019 22:49 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2019 22:42 CopCake wrote:
I feel pretty so I am town

So is that Vivax meta?


Pretty much. He's usually afk day 1 as scum. Not conftown but its a solid meta lean and its the best info we have so far given that nothing else is happening in the thread


Ah, yes, I can easily see how his 4 posts look like activity :D

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 17 2019 17:58 GMT
#129
On August 18 2019 01:49 CopCake wrote:
@Jock you could ask a host to put them, the extra work to me will always be weird but that is just the opinion of a cute innocent town.

@Vivax: so so, at least I am leaning HF as town so far.


What? Why?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 17 2019 17:59 GMT
#130
On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum


Wanna vote him with me? That's my jam recently.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 17 2019 22:21 GMT
#183
As long as we lynch into not jock/vivax/cop/me we should be fine
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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August 18 2019 08:42 GMT
#188
On August 18 2019 16:49 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 05:15 Vivax wrote:
But I really answered that a bit badly rayn:

If I were mafia, I'd not throw an early read at HF like that, most likely. I'd probably only start building a scumread on him if he was looking my way for the lynch.


Ok OJ Simpson


Is that your catch up done?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 08:42 GMT
#189
##Vote reps)squishy
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 13:33 GMT
#193
On August 18 2019 19:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
Y'all need to start playing some mafia cos I have no idea who needs to get lynched right now. Mafia can just hide if 50% of the players have gone missing.


We can just vote reps for catching up on like 3 pages and posting one off hand comment and leaving again. Easy.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 14:48 GMT
#197
On August 18 2019 23:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 22:33 Holyflare wrote:
On August 18 2019 19:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
Y'all need to start playing some mafia cos I have no idea who needs to get lynched right now. Mafia can just hide if 50% of the players have gone missing.


We can just vote reps for catching up on like 3 pages and posting one off hand comment and leaving again. Easy.

Do mafia do that or are they more likely to stay quiet?


Post nothing and get modkilled or what? Feigned activity saying you're catching up and not posting anything? That's bad.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 15:17 GMT
#206
On August 19 2019 00:11 reps)squishy wrote:
I am starting to suspect a HF, Vivax scumbo combo. Checking previous pages to see if they interact. If they do My suspicion will be lifted


It's tough to interact over the course of three posts, you got us :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 15:21 GMT
#210
On August 18 2019 23:51 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 23:48 Holyflare wrote:
On August 18 2019 23:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 18 2019 22:33 Holyflare wrote:
On August 18 2019 19:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
Y'all need to start playing some mafia cos I have no idea who needs to get lynched right now. Mafia can just hide if 50% of the players have gone missing.


We can just vote reps for catching up on like 3 pages and posting one off hand comment and leaving again. Easy.

Do mafia do that or are they more likely to stay quiet?


Post nothing and get modkilled or what? Feigned activity saying you're catching up and not posting anything? That's bad.


Explain to me how drawing attention to himself in that manner is mafialike.

I get that its bad.


I don't really understand this post either. What do you expect him to do as mafia if he has made 0 posts in the thread? He would get modkilled, or at least warned. He's forced to contribute by virtue of the game and since there is very little content in the thread (there is SOME) it would be hard for mafia to pin accusations on literally anyone. Which is why it's very easy to post that comment he posted and just leave instead of generating anything.

As town you can quite easily feign some bs read on someone or force contributions or literally post about anything and make content, it's not that difficult.

I don't really understand why you'd defend, or at least play devil's advocate, to this stance since it's inherently a mafia thing to do to skate by. Not that I think he's totally mafia-ish after his last few flurry of posts but now that he's talking about some me and vivax combo and how he has to go back and check if we interact when it's clear if he's just read through the thread that I've posted shit all my spidey senses are tingling.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 15:24 GMT
#212
Rayn is afk.
Vivax is ???
I had my gf's birthday to attend to.

Life happens unfortunately.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 15:25 GMT
#213
I think it's quite weird you're focusing on that specifically when it's clear there has been like 3 pages of game. I don't even know how someone would theoretically reach that conclusion.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 15:27 GMT
#215
On August 19 2019 00:26 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 00:21 Holyflare wrote:
On August 18 2019 23:51 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 18 2019 23:48 Holyflare wrote:
On August 18 2019 23:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 18 2019 22:33 Holyflare wrote:
On August 18 2019 19:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
Y'all need to start playing some mafia cos I have no idea who needs to get lynched right now. Mafia can just hide if 50% of the players have gone missing.


We can just vote reps for catching up on like 3 pages and posting one off hand comment and leaving again. Easy.

Do mafia do that or are they more likely to stay quiet?


Post nothing and get modkilled or what? Feigned activity saying you're catching up and not posting anything? That's bad.


Explain to me how drawing attention to himself in that manner is mafialike.

I get that its bad.


I don't really understand this post either. What do you expect him to do as mafia if he has made 0 posts in the thread? He would get modkilled, or at least warned. He's forced to contribute by virtue of the game and since there is very little content in the thread (there is SOME) it would be hard for mafia to pin accusations on literally anyone. Which is why it's very easy to post that comment he posted and just leave instead of generating anything.

As town you can quite easily feign some bs read on someone or force contributions or literally post about anything and make content, it's not that difficult.

I don't really understand why you'd defend, or at least play devil's advocate, to this stance since it's inherently a mafia thing to do to skate by. Not that I think he's totally mafia-ish after his last few flurry of posts but now that he's talking about some me and vivax combo and how he has to go back and check if we interact when it's clear if he's just read through the thread that I've posted shit all my spidey senses are tingling.


Because I literally said I worked a double shift. Now I’m active before my shift today. Nice block text trying to demonize me


I think you should re-read this block again because it literally does the opposite.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 15:29 GMT
#217
Can you explain how you came to the conclusion that Vivax and I are scummy? Just because we're voting you?

Can you also explain why Vivax and I should interact if we were both town and I have said not to lynch him today either?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 15:34 GMT
#220
On August 19 2019 00:29 CopCake wrote:
Tbf Rayn and HF interacted and pointed guns at each other but that is it, not content nor reasons just “feelings”.


I have no opinion on Rayn this game, he's not posted anything. The vote thing on him was just a joke.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 15:37 GMT
#222
On August 19 2019 00:34 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 00:29 Holyflare wrote:
Can you explain how you came to the conclusion that Vivax and I are scummy? Just because we're voting you?

Can you also explain why Vivax and I should interact if we were both town and I have said not to lynch him today either?


Because if you were town, you would want to get a read on each other. Best way to do that is not sitting passive, but quoting a post and getting them to talk.

As far as not voting for each other is that you guys don’t want to lynch a veteran D1. Not that you guys are town reading each other



On August 18 2019 07:21 Holyflare wrote:
As long as we lynch into not jock/vivax/cop/me we should be fine


I'm pretty sure this was my town list. If it was just veterans not lynching each other day 1 then Rayn would be on here. I am not afraid to lynch veterans day 1 because it is their fault if they don't play well enough to not be lynched. They're not immune.

Shouldn't you have noticed this post in finding interactions between Vivax and I?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 15:37 GMT
#224
On August 19 2019 00:37 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 00:34 Holyflare wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:29 CopCake wrote:
Tbf Rayn and HF interacted and pointed guns at each other but that is it, not content nor reasons just “feelings”.


I have no opinion on Rayn this game, he's not posted anything. The vote thing on him was just a joke.


What vote on him Vivax voted for Rayn. You did not vote for him

On August 18 2019 02:59 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum


Wanna vote him with me? That's my jam recently.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 15:55 GMT
#234
On August 19 2019 00:42 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 00:37 Holyflare wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:34 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:29 Holyflare wrote:
Can you explain how you came to the conclusion that Vivax and I are scummy? Just because we're voting you?

Can you also explain why Vivax and I should interact if we were both town and I have said not to lynch him today either?


Because if you were town, you would want to get a read on each other. Best way to do that is not sitting passive, but quoting a post and getting them to talk.

As far as not voting for each other is that you guys don’t want to lynch a veteran D1. Not that you guys are town reading each other



On August 18 2019 07:21 Holyflare wrote:
As long as we lynch into not jock/vivax/cop/me we should be fine


I'm pretty sure this was my town list. If it was just veterans not lynching each other day 1 then Rayn would be on here. I am not afraid to lynch veterans day 1 because it is their fault if they don't play well enough to not be lynched. They're not immune.

Shouldn't you have noticed this post in finding interactions between Vivax and I?



I did, I saw it as regardless of alignment these peeps should be left alive.

You counterpoint my accusations with “it’s early” but you town read that many people that early on?


Yes, it's a town list lol. I don't ever care about leaving people alive, I just town read people and find mafia in the narrowed down pool of players. That makes the game much more simple.

Like I said, if it was people to just be left alive and you said that's because vivax was a veteran, why is Rayn not on the list?

I can see a lot of your points being raised are just misunderstandings though so it's whatever and I don't care to push it anymore because it's boring. The people I think could be mafia aren't posting.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 15:57 GMT
#235
Eywa-, WARDER, Rayn, FF, Chezinu

Probably contains all mafia.

People I could go either way on: squishy

People in my town list that I could be wrong on: Vivax
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 15:58 GMT
#237
I know what you're thinking before you've thought it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 16:27 GMT
#245
On August 19 2019 01:14 CopCake wrote:
I know, I know.

HF do you wanna talk to me?

Can you give a read on me?


You're in my town list. I liked something you did but can't remember what it was. Something about arguing with jock and having some reasoning for what you posted or something. I dunno.

Feel free to ask me any questions but I'll probably end up lynching warder or eywa.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 16:28 GMT
#246
On August 19 2019 01:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
The problem with that list for me is that they are all afk and at least Eywa-, rayn and FF are going to be very useful later on if they are town.

I have never played with WARDER so I have no idea on that guy.

Chezinu... I dunno can you kill Chezinu day 1? Wouldn't it like curse the whole website for a year or something?


Dumb reasoning.

If you have town reads on most of the people that have posted the list is not inherently bad because you've narrowed it down to the same list.

Is there a read of mine you disagree with?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 17:40 GMT
#254
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 17:41 GMT
#255
Gonna vote the smurf because I dislike smurfs.

##vote Warder
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 17:42 GMT
#258
On August 18 2019 03:06 Vivax wrote:
I wouldn't mind if you also told a bit about how your new home thingy progressed. I actually wouldn't mind at all if you didn't even talk about mafia, just anything. And sorry to everyone I seem to be super tryharding right now, but it's mostly a sleep deprivation thing leading to this verbal diarrhea today.


Was this directed at me?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 17:44 GMT
#261
On August 19 2019 02:43 Vivax wrote:
HF how could you move squishy to null? He's far from cleared given that his story is just meeeeh , although the initial ingenuity made him seem townie to me too.


Because I didn't really read much of your posts interacting with me to know that you did them or not so I just believed him at face value. His tone seemed ok more than anything I guess?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 17:45 GMT
#263
On August 19 2019 02:43 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 02:42 Holyflare wrote:
On August 18 2019 03:06 Vivax wrote:
I wouldn't mind if you also told a bit about how your new home thingy progressed. I actually wouldn't mind at all if you didn't even talk about mafia, just anything. And sorry to everyone I seem to be super tryharding right now, but it's mostly a sleep deprivation thing leading to this verbal diarrhea today.


Was this directed at me?


I thought it was obvious yes


Oh :D

Sorry lol. House move went good, just chilling out! GF's parents came to visit yesterday for her bday. Bought a bike and a digital piano and going climbing a lot so basically just enjoying not having a job for a while.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 17:47 GMT
#265
Thinking about getting laser eye surgery.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 18:11 GMT
#276
On August 19 2019 02:48 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 02:45 Holyflare wrote:
On August 19 2019 02:43 Vivax wrote:
On August 19 2019 02:42 Holyflare wrote:
On August 18 2019 03:06 Vivax wrote:
I wouldn't mind if you also told a bit about how your new home thingy progressed. I actually wouldn't mind at all if you didn't even talk about mafia, just anything. And sorry to everyone I seem to be super tryharding right now, but it's mostly a sleep deprivation thing leading to this verbal diarrhea today.


Was this directed at me?


I thought it was obvious yes


Oh :D

Sorry lol. House move went good, just chilling out! GF's parents came to visit yesterday for her bday. Bought a bike and a digital piano and going climbing a lot so basically just enjoying not having a job for a while.


Sweet. Do you do the climbing where you carry your rope along the route or along fixed rope routes?


Nah just go bouldering so no rope and a relatively low wall. The rope ones require friends and having just moved I have none :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 18:13 GMT
#278
Who else was he supposed to attack though?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 22:33 GMT
#303
On August 19 2019 06:48 Vivax wrote:
Town dead. Don't think we'll meet tomorrow before 8. Is anyone going to propose any lynch besides one of the two afk picked at random? Chez might be more viable since he counts as afk except that he actually knows the game has started.


Here's my thinking. Out of the list of afkers, Chezinu has posted what I can only imagine is a trick asking how many mafia players there are which seems kind of like a town thing to do.

FF has posted things and will be back allegedly.

Rayn can be held accountable for his transgressions.

That leaves Eywa and WARDER. Warder is a smurf and all smurfs must die.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 18 2019 23:21 GMT
#313
On August 19 2019 08:12 Chezinu wrote:
It is probably safer to lynch inactives to give (if present) our blues a chance to play.


Didn't work last game!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 19 2019 15:30 GMT
#453
I can't say I'm really surprised.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 19 2019 15:41 GMT
#455
On August 19 2019 12:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 12:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont understand why anyone thinks HF is town?

As I've said many times before I just townread HF until I see a reason not to because I can't read him at all.

Hi rayn is copcake town or mafia?

I am pretty sure i have already said i think she isn't mafia.

You mean the part, on HF, where all the stuff happening into the game was me, Vivax, Jock and Cake talking and HF sitting throwing out random comments, and me doing pretty much all the legwork for working out reads with / on them, then he arrives to same conclusions that they all are town and then i am the one who did nothing??? Like that just has to be bullshit as fuck, then he even continues on voting squishy (who proably isn't even mafia) but after that i am still more scummy in his list than even the person who he voted for????


I still don't think you've done anything so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This bold is really really bad though. It's the most fabricated chain of events I can think of. I voted squishy for him saying he was catching up and then posting nothing but that one comment on Vivax. After that fact, while talking to Jock about Jock's devil's advocate stance on squishy, squishy had posted more content and I "defended" him by saying that his posts after that fact weren't awful. In fact, it seemed more a misunderstanding of his about my posts more than anything. Thus, he was UNVOTED and moved to null. The thing is, it's not even null it's an I think he is either townie or scummy (which you may argue is null but it's not!).

THEN I post a reads list of people I have PoEd to be mafia. Furthermore, I quite clearly post the following sentiment multiple times:

On August 19 2019 00:24 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn is afk.
Vivax is ???
I had my gf's birthday to attend to.

Life happens unfortunately.

On August 19 2019 00:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 00:29 CopCake wrote:
Tbf Rayn and HF interacted and pointed guns at each other but that is it, not content nor reasons just “feelings”.


I have no opinion on Rayn this game, he's not posted anything. The vote thing on him was just a joke.

On August 19 2019 00:57 Holyflare wrote:
Eywa-, WARDER, Rayn, FF, Chezinu

Probably contains all mafia.

People I could go either way on: squishy

People in my town list that I could be wrong on: Vivax


So, it's quite frankly a lie that I was finding you more scummy than the person I was voting for.

I think FF looks A LOT worse for just blindly finding me townie after re-reading but then throwing that read aside to appease rayn. Looks scummy af. I don't know what this makes rayn but it's lazy as fuck and a lie so scummy at the moment.

On August 19 2019 12:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 12:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont understand why anyone thinks HF is town?

As I've said many times before I just townread HF until I see a reason not to because I can't read him at all.

Hi rayn is copcake town or mafia?

I am pretty sure i have already said i think she isn't mafia.

You mean the part, on HF, where all the stuff happening into the game was me, Vivax, Jock and Cake talking and HF sitting throwing out random comments, and me doing pretty much all the legwork for working out reads with / on them, then he arrives to same conclusions that they all are town and then i am the one who did nothing??? Like that just has to be bullshit as fuck, then he even continues on voting squishy (who proably isn't even mafia) but after that i am still more scummy in his list than even the person who he voted for????

Sure, that sounds pretty scummy. I'll give you an HF scumlean for that how about?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 19 2019 15:41 GMT
#456
On August 20 2019 00:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 00:30 Holyflare wrote:
I can't say I'm really surprised.

Was your vote a meme smurf kill because you hate smurfs or do you really think killing smurfs is fine d1 even if they're 100% afk? Do you think mafia was on the wagon?


Why not both?

I don't even know who was on the wagon.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 19 2019 15:44 GMT
#457
Why are you a flaccid penis this game FF? You just bend to anyone's will.

I clearly did not demonize Squishy and even said so myself. Even if it's a null read, that's a defence. Why did you back down?

Why did you bend over to Rayn saying I was scummy for something that blatantly wasn't true in the slightest?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 19 2019 15:54 GMT
#459
I think it's far more likely mafia voted off wagon than on it tbh.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 19 2019 16:30 GMT
#461
On August 20 2019 01:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No youre the one lying. You can say the later part of the post is how you interpret it and atm i will take it as face value but the earlier part is just simply i lie. I have easily done way way more than you have in this game.

You can claim i can end up with town reads on vivax/cake/jock, maybe i even would tbh, but saying i havent done anything is just an outright lie because i was there figuring out those people when were jacking off and THEN you put me into your scumpile AFTER you come to SAME conclusions i do because "rayn hasnt done anything". That is bs as fuck, and it is all in the thread for anyone to read.



There is no interpret, that is simply the facts of the thread you tit. You lied about what happened in a chain of events to push forward your scum read.

I don't really give a shit about what you think you've done either and upon actually reading your filter I simply don't agree that you've done anything worthwhile in the slightest.

You literally have about 10 one line posts before I even made that read and somehow you think you've made all these stellar conclusions I should be town reading you for on Cake and Vivax that have almost 0 reasoning.

This, for example, is your read progression on Vivax:

On August 18 2019 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont understand what hanging around elsewhere in TL has anything to do with anyones alignment?

On August 18 2019 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 18 2019 02:25 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont understand what hanging around elsewhere in TL has anything to do with anyones alignment?


Well I just compared his post history in the general forum to his list of games in the mafia database and there are zero posts when he is playing as mafia and plenty when he's town.
I'm not going to try this with each specific area of tl.net cos I can't be bothered.
Call it bullshit if you want but it makes perfect sense to me. He's eager to play as town and is browsing tl.net while waiting for something to happen in thread, he doesn't do that as mafia.

That's how it seems to me anyway.

Okay that makes more sense. Just to clarify i dont hate the read i just didnt know if i liked the reasoning.

On August 18 2019 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 18 2019 03:02 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 03:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum

Well youre wrong.


Okay. I was honestly super tempted to keep writing but I wanted to see the reply expecting town rayn to either laugh at the obvious circular reasoning or get mad about it and put me on /ignore. I have to say I'm disappointed not to see that.

Is there any reason you just sound so differently from the last times I saw you playing town? Yes/No would suffice.

I really dont know tbh. I am doing my own thing and i dont really care what other people think. For the record youre never going to figure out my alignment with some reaction test.

Youre town and Cake is probably town. Thats pretty much all i have at this point and i am out with a friend so thats most likely all i will have today.

On August 18 2019 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am telling you vivax is town though regardless of my alignment.




Cool, you don't even agree or say you agree with the Vivax read from Jock and then suddenly Vivax is just town with absolutely no reasoning that should convince anyone in the thread.


This is your read progression on Cake:

On August 18 2019 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 18 2019 03:02 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 03:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum

Well youre wrong.


Okay. I was honestly super tempted to keep writing but I wanted to see the reply expecting town rayn to either laugh at the obvious circular reasoning or get mad about it and put me on /ignore. I have to say I'm disappointed not to see that.

Is there any reason you just sound so differently from the last times I saw you playing town? Yes/No would suffice.

I really dont know tbh. I am doing my own thing and i dont really care what other people think. For the record youre never going to figure out my alignment with some reaction test.

Youre town and Cake is probably town. Thats pretty much all i have at this point and i am out with a friend so thats most likely all i will have today.


Then you just went into downplaying Vivax's accusations or something towards Cake.

If you really think that is incredible town play that I should town read you for, I think you'll be sorely disappointed I'm afraid. Just because we reach the same conclusions does not mean I should read you an alignment. I don't even know what made you reach your conclusions nor do I think that's so much work that you should easily be town read by me. The fact is, you did do shit all.
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August 19 2019 16:35 GMT
#464
On August 19 2019 12:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 19 2019 12:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont understand why anyone thinks HF is town?

As I've said many times before I just townread HF until I see a reason not to because I can't read him at all.

Hi rayn is copcake town or mafia?

I am pretty sure i have already said i think she isn't mafia.

You mean the part, on HF, where all the stuff happening into the game was me, Vivax, Jock and Cake talking and HF sitting throwing out random comments, and me doing pretty much all the legwork for working out reads with / on them, then he arrives to same conclusions that they all are town and then i am the one who did nothing??? Like that just has to be bullshit as fuck, then he even continues on voting squishy (who proably isn't even mafia) but after that i am still more scummy in his list than even the person who he voted for????



In fact this is quite possibly the biggest lie in the thread. Like, really the biggest lie.

Let me just reiterate. There is absolutely 0 questions to Vivax, 0 posts saying you're figuring out Vivax and 0 posts addressing how you got a town read on Vivax. Is this leg work that you did?

Your cop read. There is 0 questions to Cake, 0 posts saying you're figuring out Cake, 0 posts addressing how you got your town read on Cake before you posted it. Is that leg work?

Is this the biggest lie of 2019 or what?
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August 19 2019 16:39 GMT
#468
On August 20 2019 01:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And where do you have even a single post where you have given even aNY implication of how you hsve reachrd your conclusions on those people?


Hold on there, my friend. Where do I say I've done amazing leg work that I need to back this accusation up? You're the one on trial here.

Either way:

On August 19 2019 01:27 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 19 2019 01:14 CopCake wrote:
I know, I know.

HF do you wanna talk to me?

Can you give a read on me?


You're in my town list. I liked something you did but can't remember what it was. Something about arguing with jock and having some reasoning for what you posted or something. I dunno.

Feel free to ask me any questions but I'll probably end up lynching warder or eywa.


BAM, solid reasoning for my Copcake read. Checkmate, Rayn.

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August 19 2019 16:42 GMT
#470
On August 20 2019 00:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 00:41 Holyflare wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont understand why anyone thinks HF is town?

As I've said many times before I just townread HF until I see a reason not to because I can't read him at all.

Hi rayn is copcake town or mafia?

I am pretty sure i have already said i think she isn't mafia.

You mean the part, on HF, where all the stuff happening into the game was me, Vivax, Jock and Cake talking and HF sitting throwing out random comments, and me doing pretty much all the legwork for working out reads with / on them, then he arrives to same conclusions that they all are town and then i am the one who did nothing??? Like that just has to be bullshit as fuck, then he even continues on voting squishy (who proably isn't even mafia) but after that i am still more scummy in his list than even the person who he voted for????


I still don't think you've done anything so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This bold is really really bad though. It's the most fabricated chain of events I can think of. I voted squishy for him saying he was catching up and then posting nothing but that one comment on Vivax. After that fact, while talking to Jock about Jock's devil's advocate stance on squishy, squishy had posted more content and I "defended" him by saying that his posts after that fact weren't awful. In fact, it seemed more a misunderstanding of his about my posts more than anything. Thus, he was UNVOTED and moved to null. The thing is, it's not even null it's an I think he is either townie or scummy (which you may argue is null but it's not!).

THEN I post a reads list of people I have PoEd to be mafia. Furthermore, I quite clearly post the following sentiment multiple times:

On August 19 2019 00:24 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn is afk.
Vivax is ???
I had my gf's birthday to attend to.

Life happens unfortunately.

On August 19 2019 00:34 Holyflare wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:29 CopCake wrote:
Tbf Rayn and HF interacted and pointed guns at each other but that is it, not content nor reasons just “feelings”.


I have no opinion on Rayn this game, he's not posted anything. The vote thing on him was just a joke.

On August 19 2019 00:57 Holyflare wrote:
Eywa-, WARDER, Rayn, FF, Chezinu

Probably contains all mafia.

People I could go either way on: squishy

People in my town list that I could be wrong on: Vivax


So, it's quite frankly a lie that I was finding you more scummy than the person I was voting for.

I think FF looks A LOT worse for just blindly finding me townie after re-reading but then throwing that read aside to appease rayn. Looks scummy af. I don't know what this makes rayn but it's lazy as fuck and a lie so scummy at the moment.

On August 19 2019 12:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont understand why anyone thinks HF is town?

As I've said many times before I just townread HF until I see a reason not to because I can't read him at all.

Hi rayn is copcake town or mafia?

I am pretty sure i have already said i think she isn't mafia.

You mean the part, on HF, where all the stuff happening into the game was me, Vivax, Jock and Cake talking and HF sitting throwing out random comments, and me doing pretty much all the legwork for working out reads with / on them, then he arrives to same conclusions that they all are town and then i am the one who did nothing??? Like that just has to be bullshit as fuck, then he even continues on voting squishy (who proably isn't even mafia) but after that i am still more scummy in his list than even the person who he voted for????

Sure, that sounds pretty scummy. I'll give you an HF scumlean for that how about?


I actually already said why I called you town (easier than trying to get a real read on you) and I took what rayn said at face value



By the way, how can you make a post saying I've defended Squishy (the post directly after I say I'm unvoting him or something) BUT THEN take Rayn's post where he says I WAS VOTING for squishy while scum reading rayn (or some bs)????? That's totally contradictory to what you already knew to be the case.
Holyflare
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August 19 2019 17:19 GMT
#476
What is there to think about this rayn/hf thing? He said he put in the leg work and there was absolutely 0 leg work. Got called out and then said "What leg work have you done?"

lol
Holyflare
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August 19 2019 18:24 GMT
#482
On August 20 2019 03:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
I am at work and have already been dogfucking a little too much so my checkins may be sparse for a bit


I don't want to know what your search history is like if that's an auto correct.
Holyflare
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August 19 2019 18:25 GMT
#484
On August 20 2019 02:19 Holyflare wrote:
What is there to think about this rayn/hf thing? He said he put in the leg work and there was absolutely 0 leg work. Got called out and then said "What leg work have you done?"

lol


^

Can someone please read rayn's filter and comprehend how he can say he did all the leg work on Vivax and Cop please?
Holyflare
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August 19 2019 18:26 GMT
#485
On August 20 2019 03:25 Fecalfeast wrote:
Do you not use the term dogfucking in uk? Means slacking off


We typically say slacking.
Holyflare
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August 19 2019 19:52 GMT
#487
On August 20 2019 03:25 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 02:19 Holyflare wrote:
What is there to think about this rayn/hf thing? He said he put in the leg work and there was absolutely 0 leg work. Got called out and then said "What leg work have you done?"

lol


^

Can someone please read rayn's filter and comprehend how he can say he did all the leg work on Vivax and Cop please?

Holyflare
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August 19 2019 20:29 GMT
#490
On August 20 2019 05:10 CopCake wrote:
I don't know what you mean with “leg work” but Rayn explained to Vivax why I am town in his mindset and told me that Vivax is town directly to me.



Leg work means he put in real effort to determine his scum read on people. He is saying that my read on him is bull shit because he put in so much effort that I should read him as an alignment because he spent so much time figuring out both Vivax and yourself.

Do those posts look like he put in that effort? It just says Vivax doesn't play as mafia and Copcake is town and nothing more. Does that look like so much effort that we should town read him for it like he says?
Holyflare
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August 19 2019 20:32 GMT
#492
I can already tell I'll need to ignore 90% of this post.
Holyflare
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August 19 2019 20:34 GMT
#493
I don't really understand what your problem with my read is lol. You're a flat null because I don't think what you've done is outside of your range as mafia, which is in some weird way a compliment. It doesn't mean you're mafia and I don't know why it bothers you so much.

This all came about simply because you called me mafia, not the other way around.
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August 19 2019 20:35 GMT
#496
If you've posted that wall of text as mafia rayn I will never respect you ever again.
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August 19 2019 20:37 GMT
#499
I mean Eywa's probably mafia so that's something?
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August 19 2019 20:38 GMT
#500
On August 20 2019 05:37 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:10 CopCake wrote:
I don't know what you mean with “leg work” but Rayn explained to Vivax why I am town in his mindset and told me that Vivax is town directly to me.



Leg work means he put in real effort to determine his scum read on people. He is saying that my read on him is bull shit because he put in so much effort that I should read him as an alignment because he spent so much time figuring out both Vivax and yourself.

Do those posts look like he put in that effort? It just says Vivax doesn't play as mafia and Copcake is town and nothing more. Does that look like so much effort that we should town read him for it like he says?


He put A LOT of effort in the me vs FF trying to explaun why I am town.

Like literally a lot.


I don't think less than a handful of posts is a lot of effort but that's just me. I also see a way you could be mafia from the situation he says you must be town in so that's why I don't particularly read rayn one way or another.
Holyflare
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August 19 2019 21:09 GMT
#503
On August 20 2019 05:51 CopCake wrote:
But HF wasnt I one of your locked town reads?

What changed?



You are asking and I am answering your questions about rayn, it is your perspective vs what other see. I am trying to see rayn’s posts with “the no effort you see” but it doesnt work. I mean remember our last game in which all mafia were afk? Both of you and myself had guns at each other and idk if it is the case here with you and him (I am trying to be open) .

The game should be fun for everyone.



When have I said otherwise?
Holyflare
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August 19 2019 21:12 GMT
#504
On August 19 2019 00:57 Holyflare wrote:
Eywa-, WARDER, Rayn, FF, Chezinu

Probably contains all mafia.

People I could go either way on: squishy

People in my town list that I could be wrong on: Vivax



I mean fuck me, if saying Vivax doesn't play as town and giving one scenario that you only do as town is effort then this site really has become minimal af. This is a pointless conversation. Rayn scum read ME and I don't even know if he does anymore, the point was his scum read was a lie. I'm just going to blanket call him town for his emo post though and continue on with my day.

That leaves Chezinu, FF, Eywa, Squishy.

I'm adding Vivax back because he has also done nothing after the lynch other than say he'll see what I say or something boring. Not putting in any more work than necessary. Is he town? Probably. Does that matter? No.

Holyflare
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August 19 2019 23:17 GMT
#514
On August 20 2019 07:50 Eywa- wrote:
I could see both HF and Rayn being mafia.

Rayn condemning my playstyle here while acknowledging a good performance in my last town game before this one is really suspect.

HF shooting through PoE right now seems to go against his typical playstyle.


I'm pretty sure I do the same thing every single game I've ever played.
Holyflare
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August 19 2019 23:20 GMT
#515
On June 27 2019 18:52 Holyflare wrote:
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On June 27 2019 18:37 Pandain wrote:
ok sure but im angry so i dont think rational.

also to be frank no one on the slam lynch can take credit for it because it was deliberately a "i have no idea what to do so lynch someone afk"


This isn't true. I went for the most amiable lynch in a pool of people that were scum reads. Narrowing down town reads and lynching into a pool isn't just rng and hope, it increases the odds of hitting mafia by a lot. Everyone was looking at least a bit townie.

On July 04 2019 01:37 Holyflare wrote:
I think Pandain and eywa are town for what it's worth. I wouldn't clear rayn because his logic doesn't really hold up but I don't want to get in a shit fight about it so I'll ignore it and see how it goes. I got the feeling jock was overzealous townie that thought he had something on me and that looked good but he's pushed it a smidge too far for my liking so I'm downgrading him.

Conversion/grack/es/rayn/trfl/jock

It's a big list but I really haven't given a shit about the game until now so I'll narrow it down when I'm home.


In fact the last two FF games that you were in both times I say the exact same or similar things. Rayn is also a really out of left field read for you to make and I'm at least 50% sure you're trying to make me argue with him more by fueling a scum read on him.

I think I'd probably vote you tomorrow over all the afkers even.
Holyflare
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August 19 2019 23:21 GMT
#516
On August 20 2019 07:05 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:37 CopCake wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:10 CopCake wrote:
I don't know what you mean with “leg work” but Rayn explained to Vivax why I am town in his mindset and told me that Vivax is town directly to me.



Leg work means he put in real effort to determine his scum read on people. He is saying that my read on him is bull shit because he put in so much effort that I should read him as an alignment because he spent so much time figuring out both Vivax and yourself.

Do those posts look like he put in that effort? It just says Vivax doesn't play as mafia and Copcake is town and nothing more. Does that look like so much effort that we should town read him for it like he says?


He put A LOT of effort in the me vs FF trying to explaun why I am town.

Like literally a lot.


I don't think less than a handful of posts is a lot of effort but that's just me. I also see a way you could be mafia from the situation he says you must be town in so that's why I don't particularly read rayn one way or another.



Mistake, read the bolded part as if you were changing your opinion.

And now let me ask: who would you lynch rn? From your list.



Eywa.
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August 20 2019 22:14 GMT
#621
On August 21 2019 03:44 Eywa- wrote:
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On August 21 2019 03:42 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:35 Eywa- wrote:
I definitely see the value in scum!jock pocketing these players though.


You are not exactly a town read of mine but let’s play a game.

In a world in which jock is mafia, who are his mates?

Rayn or HF. HF making the most sense.


On August 21 2019 04:00 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 03:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm officially not giving copcake credit for the dumbtell

This is fair, but I think there are too many things going against scum!copcake

I think Rayn calling him town, the dumbtell along with a few other posts make copcake more likely to flip town than scum.


On August 21 2019 00:25 Eywa- wrote:
vote: Rayn


Can't even keep a story straight. Glad to be on your team Rayn.
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August 20 2019 22:25 GMT
#623
On August 20 2019 07:50 Eywa- wrote:
I could see both HF and Rayn being mafia.

Rayn condemning my playstyle here while acknowledging a good performance in my last town game before this one is really suspect.

HF shooting through PoE right now seems to go against his typical playstyle.


It begins here by the way, the reason for me scum reading Eywa. Even if Rayn said Eywa had a good performance in the last game, before this post there were only 3(!) posts before this from Eywa total. Thus, it's quite clearly a night and day difference from any game Eywa and Rayn had been in together to criticise this Rayn read.

Furthermore, the read one me is such bs because as I pointed out here:

On August 20 2019 08:20 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2019 18:52 Holyflare wrote:
On June 27 2019 18:37 Pandain wrote:
ok sure but im angry so i dont think rational.

also to be frank no one on the slam lynch can take credit for it because it was deliberately a "i have no idea what to do so lynch someone afk"


This isn't true. I went for the most amiable lynch in a pool of people that were scum reads. Narrowing down town reads and lynching into a pool isn't just rng and hope, it increases the odds of hitting mafia by a lot. Everyone was looking at least a bit townie.

Show nested quote +
On July 04 2019 01:37 Holyflare wrote:
I think Pandain and eywa are town for what it's worth. I wouldn't clear rayn because his logic doesn't really hold up but I don't want to get in a shit fight about it so I'll ignore it and see how it goes. I got the feeling jock was overzealous townie that thought he had something on me and that looked good but he's pushed it a smidge too far for my liking so I'm downgrading him.

Conversion/grack/es/rayn/trfl/jock

It's a big list but I really haven't given a shit about the game until now so I'll narrow it down when I'm home.


In fact the last two FF games that you were in both times I say the exact same or similar things. Rayn is also a really out of left field read for you to make and I'm at least 50% sure you're trying to make me argue with him more by fueling a scum read on him.

I think I'd probably vote you tomorrow over all the afkers even.


The last two FF games BOTH contained myself and Eywa in and as you can see in the quotes, I went through the exact same strategy of PoEing down town reads and then lynching between the rest to find mafia. Quite literally in the last game where we lynched the cop Chezinu it was because I narrowed suspects down to a lynch pool of mafia and Chezinu was in it and the most agreeable for everyone to lynch. Almost IDENTICAL to this game where we lynched an afk cop that was most agreeable to be lynched. I can't quite see a difference at all.

But we're the two biggest suspects Eywa has. Does that make sense? No, it doesn't one bit.


Then there's:

On August 20 2019 07:52 Eywa- wrote:
Also, that much AtE is really bad from town!Rayn and he should know better.



On August 20 2019 07:53 Eywa- wrote:
So... All signs point to scum!rayn


On August 20 2019 08:28 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 08:17 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 07:50 Eywa- wrote:
I could see both HF and Rayn being mafia.

Rayn condemning my playstyle here while acknowledging a good performance in my last town game before this one is really suspect.

HF shooting through PoE right now seems to go against his typical playstyle.


I'm pretty sure I do the same thing every single game I've ever played.

Pretty sure, but hard to tell when you're mafia?


On August 20 2019 08:30 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 07:05 CopCake wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:37 CopCake wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:10 CopCake wrote:
I don't know what you mean with “leg work” but Rayn explained to Vivax why I am town in his mindset and told me that Vivax is town directly to me.



Leg work means he put in real effort to determine his scum read on people. He is saying that my read on him is bull shit because he put in so much effort that I should read him as an alignment because he spent so much time figuring out both Vivax and yourself.

Do those posts look like he put in that effort? It just says Vivax doesn't play as mafia and Copcake is town and nothing more. Does that look like so much effort that we should town read him for it like he says?


He put A LOT of effort in the me vs FF trying to explaun why I am town.

Like literally a lot.


I don't think less than a handful of posts is a lot of effort but that's just me. I also see a way you could be mafia from the situation he says you must be town in so that's why I don't particularly read rayn one way or another.



Mistake, read the bolded part as if you were changing your opinion.

And now let me ask: who would you lynch rn? From your list.



Eywa.

Omgus


The AtE from rayn is clearly from a place of emotional outburst that, if mafia, only comes to APPEASE someone by literally appealing to their emotions. That's the point of it. The person that he was talking to the most around that time and interacting with was me. Thus, unless it is a ridiculous wall of text to throw off a mafia buddy WHO WASN'T EVEN SCUM READING HIM (because the language barrier I think made Rayn think I was?) Eywa's read of this AtE post and having both myself and Rayn as mafia together makes absolutely 0 sense whatsoever. Either one of us is mafia or neither of us are mafia.

Further down the quotes he was provided evidence that I do the PoE thing as town (why need evidence when you've been in all those games?) but we're still both of his scum reads as well as Jock.

Nothing adds up. I haven't read his Jock reasons but I'm sure they're equally as flimsy.

Vote Eywa.
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August 20 2019 22:26 GMT
#624
On August 21 2019 07:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 07:14 Holyflare wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:44 Eywa- wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:42 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:35 Eywa- wrote:
I definitely see the value in scum!jock pocketing these players though.


You are not exactly a town read of mine but let’s play a game.

In a world in which jock is mafia, who are his mates?

Rayn or HF. HF making the most sense.


On August 21 2019 04:00 Eywa- wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm officially not giving copcake credit for the dumbtell

This is fair, but I think there are too many things going against scum!copcake

I think Rayn calling him town, the dumbtell along with a few other posts make copcake more likely to flip town than scum.


On August 21 2019 00:25 Eywa- wrote:
vote: Rayn


Can't even keep a story straight. Glad to be on your team Rayn.


Call this tinfoil or whatever but this is definitely the kind of post HF would make against his partner



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August 20 2019 22:26 GMT
#625
Can't stop bad.
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August 20 2019 22:43 GMT
#629
On August 21 2019 07:37 Eywa- wrote:
HF complaint that my case doesn't make sense is super scummy. I don't really do cases.

Nice block of nothing though @HF

I actually am getting lynched today.


I never once reference the word case. I simply say that your thought process doesn't add up, which it doesn't.
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August 20 2019 22:44 GMT
#631
I mean, all evidence says so. I was being nice when I referenced thought process because what I really meant was random collection of words.
Holyflare
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August 20 2019 22:45 GMT
#632
Feel free to lift your facade of bravado and talk about how you actually reach your conclusions though
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August 20 2019 22:55 GMT
#635
On August 21 2019 07:37 Eywa- wrote:
HF complaint that my case doesn't make sense is super scummy. I don't really do cases.

Nice block of nothing though @HF

I actually am getting lynched today.

On August 21 2019 07:40 Eywa- wrote:
Also, it seems like Rayn is faking emotional involvement which he tends to do as scum. Like, oh, I'm all worked up... But I don't want to step on anyone's toes.

That last part isn't included in his town game, not in the slightest.


On August 21 2019 07:43 Eywa- wrote:
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On August 21 2019 07:43 Holyflare wrote:
On August 21 2019 07:37 Eywa- wrote:
HF complaint that my case doesn't make sense is super scummy. I don't really do cases.

Nice block of nothing though @HF

I actually am getting lynched today.


I never once reference the word case. I simply say that your thought process doesn't add up, which it doesn't.

*Shrug*

If you say so


On August 21 2019 07:47 Eywa- wrote:
I'm fine with being the sacrifice as long as we lynch within the three scummiest players in the game.

I'm not going to argue more pationatly than you, so I don't know why anyone can think I would target you if I was scum.



These are your following posts following two heavily EVIDENCE based accusations.


Post 1 is a typical straw man argument. You fabricate what my case is entirely about, diminish the points by not even talking about them and then posit an additional argument that I am mafia because of it.

Post 2 is referencing Rayn's big post which argues that you have made some irreconcilable logical error and, again, you go for Rayn's character as a read rather than correcting him or making any attempt at clearing up a very simple situation to clear up if you were town. Ad hom.

Post 3 is when correcting your straw man you shrug it off because there is no logical way to argue correct logic other than do what you are doing.

Post 4 is just a really bad post.

Are you incapable of just simply refuting cases against you with a sound evidence based approach or are you just content appealing to people? What evidence will people use to follow your post 4? What have you given to convince people that myself, Rayn or Jock are mafia?
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August 20 2019 23:46 GMT
#637
On August 21 2019 08:42 Eywa- wrote:
Cases are scummy


On August 21 2019 07:37 Eywa- wrote:
HF complaint that my case doesn't make sense is super scummy. I don't really do cases.

Nice block of nothing though @HF

I actually am getting lynched today.


Ouch, sick baby seal.
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August 20 2019 23:50 GMT
#638
On August 21 2019 08:46 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 21 2019 08:42 Eywa- wrote:
Cases are scummy


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On August 21 2019 07:37 Eywa- wrote:
HF complaint that my case doesn't make sense is super scummy. I don't really do cases.

Nice block of nothing though @HF

I actually am getting lynched today.


Ouch, sick baby seal.


On July 30 2019 21:22 Eywa- wrote:
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On July 30 2019 21:19 Pandain wrote:
FF case*

Cases are scummy


I mean this was literally the last game you were mafia too. I think that about sums it up.
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August 21 2019 02:11 GMT
#644
Good chat guys.
Holyflare
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August 21 2019 03:10 GMT
#654
On August 21 2019 12:06 Eywa- wrote:
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On August 21 2019 11:11 Holyflare wrote:
Good chat guys.

Look, I don't really see any point in refuting what you have to say because it's nonsense. You're like... Ripping me for voting one scum read over another scum read calling it inconsistency.

The rest of your case is that my posting quality is low. I mean, it's obviously the same as any of the other games I played on this site. I don't see my posting quality here as being alignment indicative at all.



??? Not it at all. Your scum reads don't make sense and shouldn't exist because all the reasoning you've provided has been refuted and you've given nothing else to prove why you maintain those reads.

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August 21 2019 03:11 GMT
#656
And then you tried to say making cases was scummy (to further push your really tragically bad scum read on me) despite saying the word for word same as mafia literally last game.

Everything you say is an agenda to manipulate rather than actually solving the game.
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August 21 2019 03:12 GMT
#658
On August 21 2019 12:11 Eywa- wrote:
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On August 21 2019 12:10 Holyflare wrote:
On August 21 2019 12:06 Eywa- wrote:
On August 21 2019 11:11 Holyflare wrote:
Good chat guys.

Look, I don't really see any point in refuting what you have to say because it's nonsense. You're like... Ripping me for voting one scum read over another scum read calling it inconsistency.

The rest of your case is that my posting quality is low. I mean, it's obviously the same as any of the other games I played on this site. I don't see my posting quality here as being alignment indicative at all.



??? Not it at all. Your scum reads don't make sense and shouldn't exist because all the reasoning you've provided has been refuted and you've given nothing else to prove why you maintain those reads.


You claiming my reads are bad doesn't make it a fact.


Again, beside the point.
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August 21 2019 03:16 GMT
#664
The thing is I don't see where my point was refuted.

If you state things like x, y, z is mafia because of a, b, c but it turns out a, b, c just aren't true but you don't reevaluate and instead maintain x, y, z are scummy for that then that's not just a bad read, that is flagrant misrepresentation and an agenda to blend in with doing work. There is one alignment that does that.

Furthermore, if you think you actually had something on rayn's appeal to emotion post why did you not ever try and evaluate why he posted it?
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August 21 2019 03:18 GMT
#665
On August 21 2019 12:15 Eywa- wrote:
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On August 21 2019 12:11 Holyflare wrote:
Everything you say is an agenda to manipulate rather than actually solving the game.

Yes, but the two are not mutually exclusive. As town, I want people to vote for my scum reads and as scum I want people to vote for my "scum reads". Manipulation is a good way to achieve that.. And the manipulation has no connection to game solving.


I'm glad we both agree you aren't game solving.
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August 21 2019 03:20 GMT
#668
You have 24 hours to succinctly state:

Holyflare is mafia because: Minimum two complete sentences.

Rayn is mafia because: Minimum two sentences and an explanation on why rayn felt he had to ate.

Jock is mafia because: something coherent
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August 21 2019 03:22 GMT
#670
On August 21 2019 12:19 Eywa- wrote:
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On August 21 2019 12:16 Holyflare wrote:
The thing is I don't see where my point was refuted.

If you state things like x, y, z is mafia because of a, b, c but it turns out a, b, c just aren't true but you don't reevaluate and instead maintain x, y, z are scummy for that then that's not just a bad read, that is flagrant misrepresentation and an agenda to blend in with doing work. There is one alignment that does that.

Furthermore, if you think you actually had something on rayn's appeal to emotion post why did you not ever try and evaluate why he posted it?

Your reasoning is bringing you down a rabbit hole of lynching town, so... It must be good


All I can do is provide evidence and have a back and forth conversation whereby people refute the evidence and provide alternate explanations for it and provide better evidence on different people. That's 90% of what mafia is and always should be. This site has gone to shit because it never turns out that way anymore.
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August 21 2019 03:58 GMT
#685
On August 21 2019 12:55 Chezinu wrote:
Hey HF!!!

Remember when you were like I don't like the color brown and people be like well that describes you. And i was Like

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On November 25 2013 02:28 Chezinu wrote:
On November 25 2013 02:20 Holyflare wrote:
I don't like the colour brown so maybe chezinu

You shouldn't break the Chezinu Rule. The New Brown State does not recognize you as family.


You were totally a MAFIA GOON.

Then a couple years later you be like


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On April 28 2015 19:19 Holyflare wrote:
Chezinu.........?


And now you dare not speak with me?


It's 5am let me sleep

I don't agree with lynching rayn because currently:

His outburst
Wanting to lynch eywa

Seem fine to me. Killing vivax is a rayn move I guess but it's also an eywa move seeing as he literally just did it laat game I believe. He seems to like keeping me alive or something. Seems dumb.
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August 21 2019 04:22 GMT
#695
On August 21 2019 13:20 CopCake wrote:
It is a very typical mafia move Chezinu.

Kill a "Veteran"

1.- You can claim "OMG they killed him to blame me because he read me as mafia"

2.- They killed him because he was near in finding mafia.

No one has played the victim card so I assume it is the "they were close to find mafia"



Or that vivax's meta that everyone kept referencing makes him impossible to lynch and the other vets were on the wrong track. Pointless speculating.
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August 21 2019 09:21 GMT
#715
Think squishy is mafia too. Too much tmi stuff.
Holyflare
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August 21 2019 13:30 GMT
#734
I'm listening but I just don't really think anyone else is as scummy as you.
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August 21 2019 14:48 GMT
#739
On August 21 2019 23:27 CopCake wrote:
Thinking about it, it doesnt make sense a Rayn/HF team.




Thinking about it??? Did you even read the posts against eywa??
Holyflare
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August 21 2019 15:45 GMT
#748
And why is stating my reads a mafia thing?
Holyflare
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August 21 2019 15:50 GMT
#750
It just gives people a chance to know where my head is at when I have a limited amount of time to play and then I can respond to any questions about my reads if they arise. Not particularly my fault everyone just writes me off as town other than you.

I'm still not particularly sure what you even actually scum read me for. First it was poeing which wasn't even true and now it's?
Holyflare
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August 21 2019 16:38 GMT
#754
Don't believe his bs. He did the exact same thing last game where he only starts to do things when people call him mafia.

Just read his content. Now I'm only mafia from poe and voting poorly but that was never the case before. Pretty sure I've been his scum read since n1. His manipulation of playing the "I don't care" thing is also how he said he'd play it in the mafia QT last game and pretty much his play is identical.

Look at how he's trying to appease me saying now my vote is just poor and it's poe instead of treating me as the mafia aggressor pushing his needed mislynch. It's all a game.
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August 21 2019 17:09 GMT
#757
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if rayn bussed eywa tbh. That's why eywa ignores any evidence based case rayn makes and just says it should be obvious rayn is mafia when nobody is particularly looking that way at rayn. Poor play if it is.
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August 21 2019 17:43 GMT
#773
On August 22 2019 02:16 CopCake wrote:
Rayn is town, why are you doubting him now? Because he “handed in” Ewya?



Where did I say Rayn wasn't town?
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August 21 2019 17:43 GMT
#775
On August 22 2019 02:39 Eywa- wrote:
Yeah, definitely wifom. Eywa even killed vivax last game


You're not going to convince anyone you're not mafia so you may as well spend the rest of the cycle telling people why Rayn is mafia instead.
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August 21 2019 17:47 GMT
#777
On August 22 2019 02:44 CopCake wrote:
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On August 22 2019 02:09 Holyflare wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if rayn bussed eywa tbh. That's why eywa ignores any evidence based case rayn makes and just says it should be obvious rayn is mafia when nobody is particularly looking that way at rayn. Poor play if it is.


@HF



Yes, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. That doesn't mean I think Rayn's mafia, it's just one explanation for Eywa's behaviour leading up to his lynch.
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August 21 2019 19:07 GMT
#785
Well all I can say is that if you do flip town you played a bad game, it happens.

But I don't think you will.
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August 21 2019 19:14 GMT
#787
Squishy why are you always off wagon?
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August 21 2019 19:15 GMT
#788
Eywa the only person other than you that I would vote would be squishy. You down for shenanigans?
Holyflare
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August 21 2019 19:19 GMT
#790
Fine just die then lol.
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August 21 2019 19:20 GMT
#791
So ridiculously dumb you think a mafia team has rayn on it but squishy isn't mafia because vivax died and he was calling him scum :D

Not like rayn would take control and kill vivax or anything hahahahaha
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August 21 2019 19:33 GMT
#796
On August 22 2019 04:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On August 22 2019 04:28 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 22 2019 04:14 Holyflare wrote:
Squishy why are you always off wagon?


I vote 3rd party in real life. I don't really mind if my vote does not matter. I vote my conscience. I am suspicious of eywa but the amount of lurking he did would either be 400iq plays or town, or legit not knowing the game has started.

One option is scum, one is town, one is either so why does that make him towny?

Scum can forget about games too


The tmiiiii
Holyflare
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August 21 2019 22:32 GMT
#827
You are dumb if you think Eywa is town. Flat out stupid.
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August 21 2019 22:34 GMT
#828
There is a case from Rayn on Eywa that has a timeline inconsitency that has NOT been answered at all by Eywa and he skirts around it repeatedly. He only has been doing this thing now because his previous plan was failing and even still 0 of what he says was content!

Squishy is probably the other mafia sure but Eywa is mafia and you should be lynching him. If nothing more to get rayn to play and post content?
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August 21 2019 23:19 GMT
#845
way too little too late
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August 21 2019 23:21 GMT
#846
If rayn is mafia and his case is so shit you waited 48 hours effectively doing crap all to wait till people go to bed to counter it. Good job.
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August 22 2019 00:36 GMT
#852
Your only hope is voting squishy I guess.
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August 22 2019 02:21 GMT
#858
On August 22 2019 10:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
Squishy let's say you had a gun and shot me right now. I flip town, do you think jock is still mafia? It would immediately defeat your coordination hypothesis.


This is a very townie post.
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August 22 2019 02:55 GMT
#861
No he's not.
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August 22 2019 12:04 GMT
#902
Why are you not pushing my lynch rayn?
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August 22 2019 17:31 GMT
#907
I'm gonna vote rayn tomorrow.
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August 22 2019 18:46 GMT
#912
On August 23 2019 03:06 CopCake wrote:
@HF

How is rayn back to your scumpile if his case was good?

Just a question.


He spent most of his precious morning time re-summing up the case on a town flipped Eywa. Pointless.
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August 22 2019 18:56 GMT
#914
On August 23 2019 03:51 CopCake wrote:
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On August 23 2019 03:46 Holyflare wrote:
On August 23 2019 03:06 CopCake wrote:
@HF

How is rayn back to your scumpile if his case was good?

Just a question.


He spent most of his precious morning time re-summing up the case on a town flipped Eywa. Pointless.


He was fighting Jock 🤷🏽‍♀️ for his change of vote, you did the same pre flip.


But I am almost certain Jock said he thought Eywa was still scum too? Why does that even matter. I just asked rayn why he wasn't calling me mafia anymore and he basically listed most of the game as his scummy reads lol.

Then he even has squishy in there while arguing with jock about why he was voting squishy over a guy that flipped town when jock's response is people afkd on the wagon and he got a gut feeling from Eywa's tone.
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August 22 2019 20:01 GMT
#921
On August 23 2019 04:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 22 2019 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
HF, why arent you yelling to lynch whoever didnt vote for eywa rn because that is what you usually do when you think someone is mafia and then they flip town? Except that in this case you'd actually have a real reason for doing that because tbh eywa should have always flipped mafia.



Dunno no point?
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August 23 2019 17:39 GMT
#974
I'm here.
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August 23 2019 17:40 GMT
#975
I don't know why you've gone off squishy being mafia by the way. FF was a big proponent for lynching him wasn't he?
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August 23 2019 17:45 GMT
#978
On August 24 2019 02:43 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On August 24 2019 02:40 Holyflare wrote:
I don't know why you've gone off squishy being mafia by the way. FF was a big proponent for lynching him wasn't he?

Yeah but mafia squishy killing FF makes zero sense in terms of the lynches squishy and copcake were pushing (myself and FF).
FF was squishy's lynch vote yesterday, he would have had at least copcake. Killing town FF also discredits both squishy and copcakes main argument for me being scum which was that i was communicating with FF. So all squishy's work so far is gone with FF dead.


Squishy just kills the people he scum reads my dude. Vivax n1, FF n2. Seems kind of an obvious pattern?

I'll wait to see what new team he comes up with to decide on him finally.
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August 23 2019 17:46 GMT
#980
On August 24 2019 02:44 CopCake wrote:
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On August 24 2019 02:30 Jockmcplop wrote:
Its so annoying trying to get everyone organized when no-one's ever here
We should have at least 3 people on a wagon already.


I am here.
I decided it could be HF just by the way he just jumped on rayn’s case against Ewya, I dont want to believe that the rage post comes from mafia rayn. I said it before, the only times I have seen him rage like that he has been town.



I am not mafia, nor did I jump on Rayn's case. I made my own independent case after saying Eywa was probably mafia before I afkd.

So I called Eywa mafia for those reasons, Rayn came and made a case, I backed it up by expanding on my Eywa is mafia read.
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August 23 2019 17:48 GMT
#981
On August 24 2019 02:46 CopCake wrote:
FF’s death means it is at least one veteran.

Or two...

That is a fact.


It literally doesn't mean anything, you cannot tout facts that you have no idea about. Unless you are mafia, of course. FF could have been on to Squishy big time, Squishy kills people that are gunning for him.

FF could have been a blue read and Chezinu is hunting for blues. You don't know a single thing about the night kills and after having called me town the entirety of the game (I'm half tempted to make a case just by quoting your filter posts) it's very opportunistic for you to vote me here.
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August 23 2019 17:49 GMT
#982
I am almost 100% certain rayn has made a rage post like that as mafia by the way, so that is bad meta.
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August 23 2019 17:51 GMT
#984
On August 24 2019 02:50 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On August 24 2019 02:44 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 02:30 Jockmcplop wrote:
Its so annoying trying to get everyone organized when no-one's ever here
We should have at least 3 people on a wagon already.


I am here.
I decided it could be HF just by the way he just jumped on rayn’s case against Ewya, I dont want to believe that the rage post comes from mafia rayn. I said it before, the only times I have seen him rage like that he has been town.



Interesting. I was looking at the people who got on eywa's wagon early in the day and never moved. HF is one of those. Chezinu and FF both were at least willing to vote squishy and get the wagon off eywa (who is a great kill for mafia night 2 because his monotonous accusing style gets stronger as the game goes on).

Now he's trying to get me to go back to squishy as well which I don't think is smart actually. Squishy's never mafia killing FF when he spent a whole day setting up the 'jock and FF are communicating' thing as his main read.


????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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August 23 2019 17:53 GMT
#988
On August 24 2019 02:51 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 02:50 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 02:44 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 02:30 Jockmcplop wrote:
Its so annoying trying to get everyone organized when no-one's ever here
We should have at least 3 people on a wagon already.


I am here.
I decided it could be HF just by the way he just jumped on rayn’s case against Ewya, I dont want to believe that the rage post comes from mafia rayn. I said it before, the only times I have seen him rage like that he has been town.



Interesting. I was looking at the people who got on eywa's wagon early in the day and never moved. HF is one of those. Chezinu and FF both were at least willing to vote squishy and get the wagon off eywa (who is a great kill for mafia night 2 because his monotonous accusing style gets stronger as the game goes on).

Now he's trying to get me to go back to squishy as well which I don't think is smart actually. Squishy's never mafia killing FF when he spent a whole day setting up the 'jock and FF are communicating' thing as his main read.


????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????



On August 21 2019 18:21 Holyflare wrote:
Think squishy is mafia too. Too much tmi stuff.


On August 22 2019 04:15 Holyflare wrote:
Eywa the only person other than you that I would vote would be squishy. You down for shenanigans?

On August 22 2019 09:36 Holyflare wrote:
Your only hope is voting squishy I guess.

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August 23 2019 17:54 GMT
#989
On August 24 2019 02:51 reps)squishy wrote:
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On August 24 2019 02:45 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 02:43 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 02:40 Holyflare wrote:
I don't know why you've gone off squishy being mafia by the way. FF was a big proponent for lynching him wasn't he?

Yeah but mafia squishy killing FF makes zero sense in terms of the lynches squishy and copcake were pushing (myself and FF).
FF was squishy's lynch vote yesterday, he would have had at least copcake. Killing town FF also discredits both squishy and copcakes main argument for me being scum which was that i was communicating with FF. So all squishy's work so far is gone with FF dead.


Squishy just kills the people he scum reads my dude. Vivax n1, FF n2. Seems kind of an obvious pattern?

I'll wait to see what new team he comes up with to decide on him finally.


How could I have ever left such big crumbs! Fuck me, gg

lmao


Pretty townie post, I approve. Why do you never answer people's questions?
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August 23 2019 17:55 GMT
#994
On August 24 2019 02:52 reps)squishy wrote:
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On August 24 2019 02:49 Holyflare wrote:
I am almost 100% certain rayn has made a rage post like that as mafia by the way, so that is bad meta.


Earlier you were hoping to god he did not make it as mafia. What made you now think it is as mafia?


He has made it as mafia before but this was under absolutely no pressure. It's different but not outside the realm of possibility.

Do you have any idea why rayn made a QQ post this game if he wasn't in any danger of being lynched?
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August 23 2019 17:56 GMT
#995
Who is your new mafia team concoction squishy?
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August 23 2019 18:01 GMT
#999
On August 24 2019 02:56 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 02:50 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 02:44 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 02:30 Jockmcplop wrote:
Its so annoying trying to get everyone organized when no-one's ever here
We should have at least 3 people on a wagon already.


I am here.
I decided it could be HF just by the way he just jumped on rayn’s case against Ewya, I dont want to believe that the rage post comes from mafia rayn. I said it before, the only times I have seen him rage like that he has been town.



Interesting. I was looking at the people who got on eywa's wagon early in the day and never moved. HF is one of those. Chezinu and FF both were at least willing to vote squishy and get the wagon off eywa (who is a great kill for mafia night 2 because his monotonous accusing style gets stronger as the game goes on).

Now he's trying to get me to go back to squishy as well which I don't think is smart actually. Squishy's never mafia killing FF when he spent a whole day setting up the 'jock and FF are communicating' thing as his main read.


Has HF and Chezinu ever ever interacted?

Also dont come with that HF that you were first, FF called you out with the whole “that is something I can see HF doing to his scummate” and about the whole Rayn “he has raged as mafia” I am talking from MY experience and why didnt you brought that earlier? You even said “I hope you are town because if not I will lose respect”?


No, that's not true. I have interacted with Chezinu once because he was sad I hadn't said anything to him. I thought that was quite a townie thing for him to do. It turns out it might have just been to get me to soften up to him.

The FF thing calling me out is absolutely fabricated by the way. FF quoted a post where I said "Glad to be on the same team, Rayn" because at the time I posted that Rayn had ECHOED MY THOUGHTS. Why would I post that sentence towards Rayn unless he shared the same sentiment as I had already expressed. You can even check the timestamps:


On August 19 2019 00:57 Holyflare wrote:
Eywa-, WARDER, Rayn, FF, Chezinu

Probably contains all mafia.

People I could go either way on: squishy

People in my town list that I could be wrong on: Vivax

On August 19 2019 01:27 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 01:14 CopCake wrote:
I know, I know.

HF do you wanna talk to me?

Can you give a read on me?


You're in my town list. I liked something you did but can't remember what it was. Something about arguing with jock and having some reasoning for what you posted or something. I dunno.

Feel free to ask me any questions but I'll probably end up lynching warder or eywa.

On August 20 2019 05:37 Holyflare wrote:
I mean Eywa's probably mafia so that's something?

On August 20 2019 06:12 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 00:57 Holyflare wrote:
Eywa-, WARDER, Rayn, FF, Chezinu

Probably contains all mafia.

People I could go either way on: squishy

People in my town list that I could be wrong on: Vivax



I mean fuck me, if saying Vivax doesn't play as town and giving one scenario that you only do as town is effort then this site really has become minimal af. This is a pointless conversation. Rayn scum read ME and I don't even know if he does anymore, the point was his scum read was a lie. I'm just going to blanket call him town for his emo post though and continue on with my day.

That leaves Chezinu, FF, Eywa, Squishy.

I'm adding Vivax back because he has also done nothing after the lynch other than say he'll see what I say or something boring. Not putting in any more work than necessary. Is he town? Probably. Does that matter? No.


On August 20 2019 08:20 Holyflare wrote:
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On June 27 2019 18:52 Holyflare wrote:
On June 27 2019 18:37 Pandain wrote:
ok sure but im angry so i dont think rational.

also to be frank no one on the slam lynch can take credit for it because it was deliberately a "i have no idea what to do so lynch someone afk"


This isn't true. I went for the most amiable lynch in a pool of people that were scum reads. Narrowing down town reads and lynching into a pool isn't just rng and hope, it increases the odds of hitting mafia by a lot. Everyone was looking at least a bit townie.

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On July 04 2019 01:37 Holyflare wrote:
I think Pandain and eywa are town for what it's worth. I wouldn't clear rayn because his logic doesn't really hold up but I don't want to get in a shit fight about it so I'll ignore it and see how it goes. I got the feeling jock was overzealous townie that thought he had something on me and that looked good but he's pushed it a smidge too far for my liking so I'm downgrading him.

Conversion/grack/es/rayn/trfl/jock

It's a big list but I really haven't given a shit about the game until now so I'll narrow it down when I'm home.


In fact the last two FF games that you were in both times I say the exact same or similar things. Rayn is also a really out of left field read for you to make and I'm at least 50% sure you're trying to make me argue with him more by fueling a scum read on him.

I think I'd probably vote you tomorrow over all the afkers even.

On August 20 2019 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 20 2019 07:05 CopCake wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:37 CopCake wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:10 CopCake wrote:
I don't know what you mean with “leg work” but Rayn explained to Vivax why I am town in his mindset and told me that Vivax is town directly to me.



Leg work means he put in real effort to determine his scum read on people. He is saying that my read on him is bull shit because he put in so much effort that I should read him as an alignment because he spent so much time figuring out both Vivax and yourself.

Do those posts look like he put in that effort? It just says Vivax doesn't play as mafia and Copcake is town and nothing more. Does that look like so much effort that we should town read him for it like he says?


He put A LOT of effort in the me vs FF trying to explaun why I am town.

Like literally a lot.


I don't think less than a handful of posts is a lot of effort but that's just me. I also see a way you could be mafia from the situation he says you must be town in so that's why I don't particularly read rayn one way or another.



Mistake, read the bolded part as if you were changing your opinion.

And now let me ask: who would you lynch rn? From your list.



Eywa.

On August 21 2019 07:14 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 21 2019 03:44 Eywa- wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:42 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:35 Eywa- wrote:
I definitely see the value in scum!jock pocketing these players though.


You are not exactly a town read of mine but let’s play a game.

In a world in which jock is mafia, who are his mates?

Rayn or HF. HF making the most sense.


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On August 21 2019 04:00 Eywa- wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm officially not giving copcake credit for the dumbtell

This is fair, but I think there are too many things going against scum!copcake

I think Rayn calling him town, the dumbtell along with a few other posts make copcake more likely to flip town than scum.


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On August 21 2019 00:25 Eywa- wrote:
vote: Rayn


Can't even keep a story straight. Glad to be on your team Rayn.


Rayn's post is 12 hours after my last post saying to lynch Eywa even!
THIS POST IS IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO YOU EVEN.
Holyflare
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August 23 2019 18:02 GMT
#1000
So, no, Copcake, none of what you say is true.

Why are you fabricating events to push forward a lynch on me?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:05 GMT
#1002
And I blanket called Rayn town because it's a fucking dick move under no pressure to emo QQ that he hates this website because of people pushing him and other people not playing. He was rude as fuck to people that keep this site alive. I will still blindly call him town if we have to lynch him and he flips mafia too because I will have absolutely no respect for him if he had to resort to some emotional post insulting people instead of playing mafia and trying to counter points (VALID POINTS) against him.

He made a fabricated case on me N1 and his post literally got me to stop pushing him because of that appeal. You should go re-read that interaction again because it would have ended up with him being lynched the next day at that rate.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:06 GMT
#1005
Chezinu is the probably the ideal lynch today because he has done shit all and has no investment in anything. He arbitrarily does thing based on if someone is female or not and probably tried to pocket people.

I'm not even sure who he scum reads. Cop and squishy?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:08 GMT
#1007
On August 24 2019 03:05 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 07:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 21 2019 07:14 Holyflare wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:44 Eywa- wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:42 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:35 Eywa- wrote:
I definitely see the value in scum!jock pocketing these players though.


You are not exactly a town read of mine but let’s play a game.

In a world in which jock is mafia, who are his mates?

Rayn or HF. HF making the most sense.


On August 21 2019 04:00 Eywa- wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm officially not giving copcake credit for the dumbtell

This is fair, but I think there are too many things going against scum!copcake

I think Rayn calling him town, the dumbtell along with a few other posts make copcake more likely to flip town than scum.


On August 21 2019 00:25 Eywa- wrote:
vote: Rayn


Can't even keep a story straight. Glad to be on your team Rayn.


Call this tinfoil or whatever but this is definitely the kind of post HF would make against his partner


I am the biggest liar and making shit up 🤥



Perhaps actually READING my post would clear up this situation for you.

You have accused me of lying about scum reading Eywa first. I am telling you that is absolutely false. The post you had cited as reason this is false is that FF said this is something I'd do as mafia.

Can you honestly say I didn't call Eywa mafia first after reading literally every post I quoted just one page ago or what?


The FF thing calling me out is absolutely fabricated by the way. FF quoted a post where I said "Glad to be on the same team, Rayn" because at the time I posted that Rayn had ECHOED MY THOUGHTS. Why would I post that sentence towards Rayn unless he shared the same sentiment as I had already expressed. You can even check the timestamps:
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:14 GMT
#1009
On August 24 2019 03:08 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 03:05 Holyflare wrote:
And I blanket called Rayn town because it's a fucking dick move under no pressure to emo QQ that he hates this website because of people pushing him and other people not playing. He was rude as fuck to people that keep this site alive. I will still blindly call him town if we have to lynch him and he flips mafia too because I will have absolutely no respect for him if he had to resort to some emotional post insulting people instead of playing mafia and trying to counter points (VALID POINTS) against him.

He made a fabricated case on me N1 and his post literally got me to stop pushing him because of that appeal. You should go re-read that interaction again because it would have ended up with him being lynched the next day at that rate.


Yeah it would be a dick move (very big one) which is why I doubt it is a lie.

Care to quote me games when he has been mafia and done the same?


No, not really, I can't remember which game it was and I just spent an inordinate amount of time trying to search for it lol. I used terms like "rayn rage", "site" by raynpelikoneet, "fuck" by raynpelikoneet and there were far too many search results to go through.

I am almost positive he has though, this is not a lie and I would not lie about something so easily provable.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:14 GMT
#1010
On August 24 2019 03:09 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 03:06 Holyflare wrote:
Chezinu is the probably the ideal lynch today because he has done shit all and has no investment in anything. He arbitrarily does thing based on if someone is female or not and probably tried to pocket people.

I'm not even sure who he scum reads. Cop and squishy?


I would lynch chezinu with you.



But then who is the other mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:34 GMT
#1016
I don't know if I want to make a case against you, I'm just saying that your post about FF and myself is extremely wrong and it's pretty opportunistic for you to make that in lylo(?) after having called me town the entirety of the game. ESPECIALLY when the only team that makes sense to you is:

HF/Chezinu

Because you have arbitrarily said everyone else is town already and somehow contradicted yourself on me. It seems like you realised you've town read everyone in the game and had to make a reason up to scum read someone.

Now that the FF post is clearly just you misreading, what reason is there for you to turn your read on me around now?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:39 GMT
#1018
By the way, I think there's another blue in this game and that CAN explain why rayn or myself is not dead also. I can't find any setup that slam has linked that has a potential insane cop in it though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:44 GMT
#1020
To me, it's between rayn/chezinu/squishy.

I really can't shake the Squishy feeling despite what he says. He just comes in, posts nothing and fucks off again each time. Sometimes only just responding to a single question. He's been off wagon each day saying that he'll vote who he wants like a third party in the game which seems kind of brazen for a mafia to do.

Chezinu..... done nothing, always will do nothing. Has scum read Copcake and Squishy? Don't know if moving from Eywa to Squishy was that mafia-y thing to do but it was fucking weird. Really weird.

Rayn day 1 was atrocious. He literally fabricated a case on me about squishy and then emo quit the thread under absolutely no pressure. His day 2 was just the Eywa case and afk. His day 3 is just... accuse everyone it kind of looks like? "Why say those things about me but not hf" just seems arbitrary whining rather than trying to solve the game.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:45 GMT
#1021
On August 24 2019 03:42 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2019 01:25 Alakaslam wrote:
9 player setup suggestions:
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Even-Odd_Killers
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Alternating_9P
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C-C9
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C9_+_2
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=CD9*
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=SS9

Now taking other suggestions!

We might wait for more signups but let’s start discussing the nines


C-C9 has the possibility of insane cop.
I remember commenting that that was my favourite setup at the time.

Show nested quote +
On August 14 2019 01:39 Jockmcplop wrote:
I like C-C9 personally but I'm happy with any of those to be honest



lol great so we have probably one other cop in a mylo and no way of knowing if their checks are sane or insane :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:46 GMT
#1022
wait is it even mylo or lylo?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:47 GMT
#1023
It's mylo, cool. No lynch always a possibility then.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:48 GMT
#1024
If you have any doubts about my alignment you can feel free to vote a no lynch because I'll likely be shot. If I'm not shot then at least it gets rid of one of you guys for me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:50 GMT
#1025
By the way if there is another cop and they have checked me and returned me as mafia, no lynching is great for you too. If you have me as mafia and someone else as town at least you have the confirmed mafia to lynch the next cycle.

I think that setup looks really unfair for mafia tbh.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:54 GMT
#1026
I think it might be able to be broken if we no lynch even.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:54 GMT
#1028
Unless the cop checked one of FF or Vivax which would have been bad.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:55 GMT
#1030
On August 24 2019 03:54 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 03:48 Holyflare wrote:
If you have any doubts about my alignment you can feel free to vote a no lynch because I'll likely be shot. If I'm not shot then at least it gets rid of one of you guys for me.


I don't think we're more likely to be able to get 2 mafia in a row with you gone than we are to get 1/2 mafia with a lynch today.


One less question mark for people to lynch between is way better. No lynch is always the way to go if absolutely anybody in the game is unsure of my alignment.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:59 GMT
#1033
If mafia get 2nk n3 without it being announced in the game when there is only information that 2 goons are present and nothing more then I will be VERY VERY UNHAPPY.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 19:05 GMT
#1034
Either way, I'm assuming the cop has not checked FF or vivax. If we no lynch and it's 1kp and say, for instance, I hard claim VT no take backs then mafia either shoots me and the cop knows their sanity and has 3 checks and should be able to completely solve the game tomorrow.

Or, mafia have a 1/3 shot tomorrow (shooting not me) to kill the cop. If they kill the cop then the cop will have announced 2 checks tonight before the deadline that should pretty much solve the game tomorrow since it will be 2 checks and 5 people (2 of which are mafia).

If the cop lives they have 3!!! checks and are wayyyyyyyy more likely to solve the game using myself as a VT as a baseline for their sanity.

You can take this post as a VT claim from me because I am almost certain mafia will need to have a fake claim battle end game and I would never ever leave that option closed if I was mafia so take this post as a town seal that I am VT.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 19:19 GMT
#1039
On August 24 2019 04:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:16 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 03:44 Holyflare wrote:
To me, it's between rayn/chezinu/squishy.

I really can't shake the Squishy feeling despite what he says. He just comes in, posts nothing and fucks off again each time. Sometimes only just responding to a single question. He's been off wagon each day saying that he'll vote who he wants like a third party in the game which seems kind of brazen for a mafia to do.

Chezinu..... done nothing, always will do nothing. Has scum read Copcake and Squishy? Don't know if moving from Eywa to Squishy was that mafia-y thing to do but it was fucking weird. Really weird.

Rayn day 1 was atrocious. He literally fabricated a case on me about squishy and then emo quit the thread under absolutely no pressure. His day 2 was just the Eywa case and afk. His day 3 is just... accuse everyone it kind of looks like? "Why say those things about me but not hf" just seems arbitrary whining rather than trying to solve the game.



Understandable.

What’s this talk of no lynch? Lynch is towns only tool right? Why would we not lynch? Fear of mislynch?


It forces mafia to eliminate one more town and makes the game easier to solve.
The downside is we then need 2 good lynches in a row or we lose.
He's saying if we have another cop they will have a bunch of checks so a no lynch to narrow down the pool + the cop checks should be enough to solve.

I'd rather not rely on a cop until someone claims so I'd rather kill chez/rayn


This is directly anti town. You may as well claim mafia at this point.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 19:25 GMT
#1042
On August 24 2019 04:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:16 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 03:44 Holyflare wrote:
To me, it's between rayn/chezinu/squishy.

I really can't shake the Squishy feeling despite what he says. He just comes in, posts nothing and fucks off again each time. Sometimes only just responding to a single question. He's been off wagon each day saying that he'll vote who he wants like a third party in the game which seems kind of brazen for a mafia to do.

Chezinu..... done nothing, always will do nothing. Has scum read Copcake and Squishy? Don't know if moving from Eywa to Squishy was that mafia-y thing to do but it was fucking weird. Really weird.

Rayn day 1 was atrocious. He literally fabricated a case on me about squishy and then emo quit the thread under absolutely no pressure. His day 2 was just the Eywa case and afk. His day 3 is just... accuse everyone it kind of looks like? "Why say those things about me but not hf" just seems arbitrary whining rather than trying to solve the game.



Understandable.

What’s this talk of no lynch? Lynch is towns only tool right? Why would we not lynch? Fear of mislynch?


It forces mafia to eliminate one more town and makes the game easier to solve.
The downside is we then need 2 good lynches in a row or we lose.
He's saying if we have another cop they will have a bunch of checks so a no lynch to narrow down the pool + the cop checks should be enough to solve.

I'd rather not rely on a cop until someone claims so I'd rather kill chez/rayn


It is exactly the same if we lynch mafia today. It's still mylo tomorrow. But then there's far more risk being wrong today.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 19:41 GMT
#1044
Uh huuuh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:19 GMT
#1058
On August 24 2019 05:01 Jockmcplop wrote:
On the other hand, we definitely shouldn't mislynch because Slam tells me that mafia gets 2 night kills tonight.


What the fuck is this a bastard game?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:20 GMT
#1060
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town
. That basically = two mislynches.
If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.


This guy is 1000% mafia and slipped.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:22 GMT
#1063
There is literally nothing in the thread that says mafia gets 2 kills, nothing ANYWHERE that says that. Jock only got clarification after this post that there were 2 kills. Only squishy didn't understand the maths because he knew about 2 kills.

Squishy slipped and is confirmed mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:24 GMT
#1064
##unvote
##vote squishy


Nothing will convince me otherwise.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:25 GMT
#1066
On August 24 2019 05:24 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 05:22 Holyflare wrote:
There is literally nothing in the thread that says mafia gets 2 kills, nothing ANYWHERE that says that. Jock only got clarification after this post that there were 2 kills. Only squishy didn't understand the maths because he knew about 2 kills.

Squishy slipped and is confirmed mafia.


You're mistaken. I am seriously oblivious right now


You hate to see it happen. Very unfortunate.

Mind explaining to the class how you said there were 2 night kills when it's stated absolutely nowhere?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:28 GMT
#1069
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.
If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.


On August 24 2019 05:01 Jockmcplop wrote:
On the other hand, we definitely shouldn't mislynch because Slam tells me that mafia gets 2 night kills tonight.



Nope nope nope. Mafia, mafia, mafia. Your post came before Jock's

Unlucky.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:29 GMT
#1071
Or we correct lynch and mafia get 1 lynch? Nobody says that unless they are mafia and know that's the mechanic. Will never unvote squishy.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:29 GMT
#1073
On August 24 2019 05:29 reps)squishy wrote:
HF you are imagining me saying "Wait you guys don't know this"

What I am saying "Why do you only know this"


YOUR POST CAME BEFORE JOCK'S
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:30 GMT
#1074
Lalalalalalalalalalala squishy is mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:34 GMT
#1076
On August 24 2019 05:31 Chezinu wrote:
I first read squishy's post as 1 day kill (lynch) and 1 night kill = 2 kills for mafia.


You are wrong and probably mafia with him. If you read his post you cannot possibly think he means that.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:34 GMT
#1077
Because today is mylo and there are no town lynch + nk because that's a loss.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:38 GMT
#1081
On August 24 2019 05:36 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 05:28 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.
If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.


On August 24 2019 05:01 Jockmcplop wrote:
On the other hand, we definitely shouldn't mislynch because Slam tells me that mafia gets 2 night kills tonight.



Nope nope nope. Mafia, mafia, mafia. Your post came before Jock's

Unlucky.


I was trying to comprehend what no lynch would do. And why no lynch would be a good thing? If we no lynch they get two town kills yes?

Now mafia gets two town kills regardless? After Jock's pm


How do mafia get 2 town kills if we no lynch? On what planet is that correct unless you know mafia gets 2 kills?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:46 GMT
#1085
On August 24 2019 05:44 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.

day lynch + night kill night kill + next night kill

If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

day lynch + night kill


Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

back to only 1 night kill

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.



So you arbitrarily include night kill + next night kill and then decide his last statement means only 1 night kill if we lynch correctly? What happens to their next kill then? Vanishes.

Or... He just slipped big time.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:59 GMT
#1089
On August 24 2019 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 05:44 Chezinu wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.

day lynch + night kill night kill + next night kill

If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

day lynch + night kill


Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

back to only 1 night kill

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.



So you arbitrarily include night kill + next night kill and then decide his last statement means only 1 night kill if we lynch correctly? What happens to their next kill then? Vanishes.

Or... He just slipped big time.


Chezinu why vote squishy if you defend his post even?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 21:07 GMT
#1093
On August 24 2019 06:04 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:44 Chezinu wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.

day lynch + night kill night kill + next night kill

If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

day lynch + night kill


Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

back to only 1 night kill

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.



So you arbitrarily include night kill + next night kill and then decide his last statement means only 1 night kill if we lynch correctly? What happens to their next kill then? Vanishes.

Or... He just slipped big time.


Chezinu why vote squishy if you defend his post even?


Where did I defend him? That was an assumption you made and decided to tell everyone that. Rayn at least knew I literally divided the player list in half and placed numbers to troll people. But people want to believe I was serious about that. I didn't even reorder the list. It's the same list as in the OP.


The part where you took his post and coloured everything to make sense from a town perspective or a perspective where the guy doesn't know mafia get 2nk.

This looks really reallllyyyy bad for you now that he just admitted he thought it was 2nk because of my post. I'm half tempted to believe his vt claim and lynch you.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 21:09 GMT
#1094
Can a host please clarify in thread this 2kp thing?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 21:23 GMT
#1105
On August 24 2019 06:10 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 06:04 Chezinu wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:44 Chezinu wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.

day lynch + night kill night kill + next night kill

If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

day lynch + night kill


Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

back to only 1 night kill

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.



So you arbitrarily include night kill + next night kill and then decide his last statement means only 1 night kill if we lynch correctly? What happens to their next kill then? Vanishes.

Or... He just slipped big time.


Chezinu why vote squishy if you defend his post even?


Where did I defend him? That was an assumption you made and decided to tell everyone that. Rayn at least knew I literally divided the player list in half and placed numbers to troll people. But people want to believe I was serious about that. I didn't even reorder the list. It's the same list as in the OP.


The part where you took his post and coloured everything to make sense from a town perspective or a perspective where the guy doesn't know mafia get 2nk.

This looks really reallllyyyy bad for you now that he just admitted he thought it was 2nk because of my post. I'm half tempted to believe his vt claim and lynch you.


You have been very crazy this game HF.

You accuse without base. You keep twisting players words in this game to fit your narrative. Even if you are talented at it. It is getting very old. You have over done it this game.


I think I've been extremely open and forthright this game and no misconstrued really anything.

Please highlight where I've done such things. I will wait.

All I can see is the following:

I've started a no lynch train because it's optimal for town.

Squishy slipped about 2 mafia NK's.

You said some ridiculous points about how his post could mean something else.

I counter it and ask why there is massive inconsistency in your logic/reading.

You ignore it.

Squishy clarifies that he's VT and actually misread based off of my post or something.

I kind of like the cut of his jib and his tone is slightly sincere so I'm wavering.

This makes your post look incredibly like someone who:

A) Knows Squishy's alignment is town and thus he can't possibly know there are 2 mafia KP as it's not in the thread.

B) Tries to make the Squishy post fit the above's narrative.


No, I don't understand any of your posts because I simply don't read them as they are vapid excuses for blending in. I don't really care if there's an underlying meaning I'd much rather you just post the actual meaning and get on with it. It's very much anti win con if you are town and perfect if you are mafia. Ergo you are anti town or mafia and combined with the bold are very much likely to be mafia.

Shooting into FF and Vivax are very very weird plays and reminiscent of someone going for blues IMO too seeing as Vivax wasn't nearly town cleared and FF absolutely was not and wasn't really doing much of anything.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 21:33 GMT
#1111
On August 24 2019 06:30 Chezinu wrote:
Jock when through multiple scenarios to try and figure the mafia team. Pairing the remaining players and seeing if it makes sense. I had not read Jock's filter until this afternoon (Murica time). I read this after claiming he was not scumhunting. the truth is that he is in the UK, just like HF whom I had little interaction with.

HF is playing a game of logic. He is building cases. Is this fake case building? building on inconsistencies rather than trying to discern scum? Does he just tunnel? Or does he change his mind trying to find the truth? If he does change his mind, is it opportunistic? Jock keeps asking people if they are willing to lynch people. Is this to get another opinion or just to see opportunities? tricky, many of the same actions can go either way. Was HF happy to find inconsistencies to squishy because he thought he was mafia and was rejoicing? or was he excited that he found another towny mistake he could harp on? Was he just being rash?

Copcake. Is she really a reaction reader? If so, she could be hunting. Though she claims she is useless.

Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way.

squishy. Mafia with mistakes or Towny with mistakes. Did he kill FF because he thought he was blue when really HF has the largest chance thus he claimed VT so he could live longer. Squishy defended me early game. Thinking I was town. When does anyone ever think they know the role of Chezinu? JK. There was people who understand me like Vivax. If squishy said I was mafia, I would go the other way and say I'm just an easy target. Squishy fell short of the Chezinu Rule though.



What does this say in the slightest? How does someone's alignment determine the way they read your posts? I feel like this entire post says absolutely nothing, that everybody could be mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 21:54 GMT
#1116
On August 24 2019 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 05:44 Chezinu wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.

day lynch + night kill night kill + next night kill

If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

day lynch + night kill


Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

back to only 1 night kill

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.



So you arbitrarily include night kill + next night kill and then decide his last statement means only 1 night kill if we lynch correctly? What happens to their next kill then? Vanishes.

Or... He just slipped big time.


On August 24 2019 06:33 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 06:30 Chezinu wrote:
Jock when through multiple scenarios to try and figure the mafia team. Pairing the remaining players and seeing if it makes sense. I had not read Jock's filter until this afternoon (Murica time). I read this after claiming he was not scumhunting. the truth is that he is in the UK, just like HF whom I had little interaction with.

HF is playing a game of logic. He is building cases. Is this fake case building? building on inconsistencies rather than trying to discern scum? Does he just tunnel? Or does he change his mind trying to find the truth? If he does change his mind, is it opportunistic? Jock keeps asking people if they are willing to lynch people. Is this to get another opinion or just to see opportunities? tricky, many of the same actions can go either way. Was HF happy to find inconsistencies to squishy because he thought he was mafia and was rejoicing? or was he excited that he found another towny mistake he could harp on? Was he just being rash?

Copcake. Is she really a reaction reader? If so, she could be hunting. Though she claims she is useless.

Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way.

squishy. Mafia with mistakes or Towny with mistakes. Did he kill FF because he thought he was blue when really HF has the largest chance thus he claimed VT so he could live longer. Squishy defended me early game. Thinking I was town. When does anyone ever think they know the role of Chezinu? JK. There was people who understand me like Vivax. If squishy said I was mafia, I would go the other way and say I'm just an easy target. Squishy fell short of the Chezinu Rule though.



What does this say in the slightest? How does someone's alignment determine the way they read your posts? I feel like this entire post says absolutely nothing, that everybody could be mafia.


Are you ever going to answer these? Or are you just going to make posts that gauge thread reaction over and over again that say nothing.

Post showing Squishy logic but you were wrong.
Post asking who I'm mafia with.
Post discrediting my gameplay but ignoring where I asked you to provide evidence.
Big post that says nothing and that everyone could be mafia.
Posts that ask what people think of other people.
Posts showing NOT EVEN PROBABILITY of mafia, just numbers. If it were probability of random lynching it should be one less townie if you were town, so not even that is a correct calculation.
Post complaining I'm misunderstanding your posts.
Post saying jock is arbitrarily maybe town for making a filter list.


Now I'm actually reading your posts:

On August 24 2019 06:02 Chezinu wrote:
HF and rayn have been misreading my posts this game...



Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way.


You can't even keep your story straight when you're making up reads on people. Does Rayn misunderstand you or does he understand you. Which is it, Chezinu?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 21:58 GMT
#1119
I am in a really foul mood after this 2kp bull shit by the way.

Not only have I outed myself as a VT if we lynch correctly but if Squishy is town then they know he is very probably a VT too. That gives them a 50% chance to kill the cop instead of the max 33% that I had planned.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 21:59 GMT
#1120
On August 24 2019 06:58 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 06:54 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:44 Chezinu wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.

day lynch + night kill night kill + next night kill

If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

day lynch + night kill


Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

back to only 1 night kill

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.



So you arbitrarily include night kill + next night kill and then decide his last statement means only 1 night kill if we lynch correctly? What happens to their next kill then? Vanishes.

Or... He just slipped big time.


On August 24 2019 06:33 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 06:30 Chezinu wrote:
Jock when through multiple scenarios to try and figure the mafia team. Pairing the remaining players and seeing if it makes sense. I had not read Jock's filter until this afternoon (Murica time). I read this after claiming he was not scumhunting. the truth is that he is in the UK, just like HF whom I had little interaction with.

HF is playing a game of logic. He is building cases. Is this fake case building? building on inconsistencies rather than trying to discern scum? Does he just tunnel? Or does he change his mind trying to find the truth? If he does change his mind, is it opportunistic? Jock keeps asking people if they are willing to lynch people. Is this to get another opinion or just to see opportunities? tricky, many of the same actions can go either way. Was HF happy to find inconsistencies to squishy because he thought he was mafia and was rejoicing? or was he excited that he found another towny mistake he could harp on? Was he just being rash?

Copcake. Is she really a reaction reader? If so, she could be hunting. Though she claims she is useless.

Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way.

squishy. Mafia with mistakes or Towny with mistakes. Did he kill FF because he thought he was blue when really HF has the largest chance thus he claimed VT so he could live longer. Squishy defended me early game. Thinking I was town. When does anyone ever think they know the role of Chezinu? JK. There was people who understand me like Vivax. If squishy said I was mafia, I would go the other way and say I'm just an easy target. Squishy fell short of the Chezinu Rule though.



What does this say in the slightest? How does someone's alignment determine the way they read your posts? I feel like this entire post says absolutely nothing, that everybody could be mafia.


Are you ever going to answer these? Or are you just going to make posts that gauge thread reaction over and over again that say nothing.

Post showing Squishy logic but you were wrong.
Post asking who I'm mafia with.
Post discrediting my gameplay but ignoring where I asked you to provide evidence.
Big post that says nothing and that everyone could be mafia.
Posts that ask what people think of other people.
Posts showing NOT EVEN PROBABILITY of mafia, just numbers. If it were probability of random lynching it should be one less townie if you were town, so not even that is a correct calculation.
Post complaining I'm misunderstanding your posts.
Post saying jock is arbitrarily maybe town for making a filter list.


Now I'm actually reading your posts:

On August 24 2019 06:02 Chezinu wrote:
HF and rayn have been misreading my posts this game...



Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way.


You can't even keep your story straight when you're making up reads on people. Does Rayn misunderstand you or does he understand you. Which is it, Chezinu?


LOL

hunting inconsistencies... at least you knew to avoid Copcake.


The whole premise of this game is to hunt inconsistencies and make people answer them. So, which is it? Is he misunderstanding you or does he understand you. What read do you have on rayn?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 22:02 GMT
#1122
On August 24 2019 07:01 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 06:58 Holyflare wrote:
I am in a really foul mood after this 2kp bull shit by the way.

Not only have I outed myself as a VT if we lynch correctly but if Squishy is town then they know he is very probably a VT too. That gives them a 50% chance to kill the cop instead of the max 33% that I had planned.


How do you know this?


On August 24 2019 05:47 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:36 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:28 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.
If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.


On August 24 2019 05:01 Jockmcplop wrote:
On the other hand, we definitely shouldn't mislynch because Slam tells me that mafia gets 2 night kills tonight.



Nope nope nope. Mafia, mafia, mafia. Your post came before Jock's

Unlucky.


I was trying to comprehend what no lynch would do. And why no lynch would be a good thing? If we no lynch they get two town kills yes?

Now mafia gets two town kills regardless? After Jock's pm


How do mafia get 2 town kills if we no lynch? On what planet is that correct unless you know mafia gets 2 kills?


I literally had no idea what I was talking about. I read your if there is 2nk post here:

https://tl.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=1033&topic_id=550431

And I took it at face value to why no lynch would be good.

I am vanilla town. Remember reading this would be a VERY vanilla game because it is vaporwave. Well I am the third vanilla towny. I may have just thrown this game for town because I did not know what I was talking about.


Just taking his post at face value, the tone seemed pretty townie.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 22:03 GMT
#1125
I wouldn't have believed a word of what he said if it wasn't coupled with Chezinu's abhorrent posts the past few pages. He's pulling a N1 rayn where he tries to discredit and avoids answering any culpable questions.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 22:04 GMT
#1126
On August 24 2019 07:02 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 06:48 Chezinu wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:20 Jockmcplop wrote:
If hf is mafia and tried to use the no lynch to kill town i'm going to be absolutely furious.


Copcake, what do you think about HF?


He is not as cool as other games in scumhunting.

I think he wants the cop to out himself.



?????????

The cop should absolutely out themselves in mylo with 2kp the next night anyway.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 22:05 GMT
#1127
And I know you're the cop copcake so I really just want your reads instead.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 22:08 GMT
#1130
Well I don't believe you but you can hold on to your reads if you want. If you have two people checked that are alive and one of them is me I will never ever forgive you for not revealing them.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 22:10 GMT
#1136
oh god fml if squishy is the cop and checked ff and jock

seriously fml
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 22:14 GMT
#1140
Jock just end our misery with your cop checks T_T
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 22:15 GMT
#1141
Oh... one of them is me isn't it. That's why you've been reticent to lynch me. Reckon the other one is dead :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 22:16 GMT
#1143
Then Rayn is the cop and Chezinu wants to lynch him? :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 22:19 GMT
#1145
Rayn isn't ballsy I bet he fucking copped Vivax to check his sanity and then wasted it on me with some pleb move so we have no useful checks.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 22:20 GMT
#1146
On August 24 2019 07:19 CopCake wrote:
No HF I am not the cop, I picked rayn as town over you because I doubt like pretty HIGH that he wouldnt rage quit like that as town, besides I know he is busy irl.

I didnt want to say it but there.


I already know why you town read Rayn. That doesn't bother me and doesn't really explain why he's alive if I'm mafia either.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 22:25 GMT
#1148
Just in case one of you people that are claiming not cop are cops. This is a game where it is very likely REQUIRED for mafia to fake claim cop tomorrow if they don't correctly shoot into you (which is extremely likely with 2kp they will absolutely hit the cop). Thus, you won't get off any more checks, you won't survive and you if you don't die you will be in a claim battle tomorrow that you must win or we lose.

OR you can just claim now, get as much information into the thread as possible, you will HOPEFULLY have checks that are alive (at least 2) and when you are shot, they can only shoot ONE OF YOUR READS. If those reads are different checks then that gives us a view to your sanity and we have one confirmed townie or one confirmed mafia in the thread tomorrow.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 22:29 GMT
#1150
On August 23 2019 05:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think jock and squishy are mafia together so atm my best bet for mafia is chezinu. there is probably 1 mafia in jock/squishy (or hf), and i also don't think hf+squishy pair is amongst my top picks. chezinu fits with everyone and chezinu doesn't look town to me.


Different checks on squishy and jock?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 22:55 GMT
#1153
On August 24 2019 07:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Shut up i know who the cop is. If you have "different" check then claim, if you dont then dont.

I also know who mafia is.


They should claim if they have 2 checks on alive people. It's fucking lylo.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 22:55 GMT
#1154
Doesn't matter if same or different.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 23:26 GMT
#1160
I'm also here I guess?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 23:26 GMT
#1161
If you're going to claim cop just get it over with.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 00:25 GMT
#1164
Well guess I'm gonna go to bed if you're gonna keep us waiting.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 07:06 GMT
#1176
On August 24 2019 14:21 CopCake wrote:
Is someone here?




.....?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 07:06 GMT
#1177
Just made us wait 7 hours for no reason?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 07:07 GMT
#1178
On August 24 2019 09:34 Chezinu wrote:
HF are you funny?


That's what people tell me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 13:56 GMT
#1191
On August 24 2019 16:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
This is frustrating.
We need a single wagon with everyone 5 people on it by the end of the day or we're done for.
I JUST DON'T SEE IT BEING SQUISHY.


Just claim then, fuck me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 17:52 GMT
#1240
Better not involve me being mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 18:27 GMT
#1260
On August 25 2019 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
jock and squishy are different.


Which one is which.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 18:37 GMT
#1270
On August 25 2019 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2019 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
jock and squishy are different.


Which one is which.

idk but squishy scumslipped and jock fucked up your "pro town" shit on no-lynching, so... yeah.


? How can you not know. Which is red and which is green?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 18:39 GMT
#1273
On August 25 2019 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 03:37 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2019 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2019 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2019 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
jock and squishy are different.


Which one is which.

idk but squishy scumslipped and jock fucked up your "pro town" shit on no-lynching, so... yeah.


? How can you not know. Which is red and which is green?

are you dumb or what?


You are fake claiming then?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 18:44 GMT
#1280
On August 25 2019 03:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
squishy is red and jock is green what can you tell from it?


Just curious about your sanity, calm your tits? I don't know if this makes squishy mafia and also you're stupid if you think I'm mafia after my today posts.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 18:46 GMT
#1283
Not really sure how you concluded that since I'm voting squishy and called him out on his slip thing which you seem to be exhaustively calling definitely mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 18:48 GMT
#1285
What an earth are you talking about?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 18:51 GMT
#1287
Can you talk some actual sense?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 18:52 GMT
#1291
On August 25 2019 03:51 Holyflare wrote:
Can you talk some actual sense?



I really have literally no idea what you're talking about. I asked you a basic question and you flipped out.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 18:54 GMT
#1293
You said you had a different check and I was just checking if you were saying you were a parity, in which case it was a fake claim.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 18:55 GMT
#1298
On August 25 2019 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
you attack chezinu fuck all and then just.... nothing...........
ugh.... lol i guess i am gonna have to post.


I just don't give a shit. I'm having fun being unemployed and spending time with my family. Had a nice bbq, had a nice day at football. Now I'm spending it with my brother who came up from London.

Don't blame me you waited 24 hours too long to claim cop. Had all the time in the world last night.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 18:58 GMT
#1302
On August 25 2019 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
because tbh i am quite furious of what you (and others) did


What the actual fuck are you talking about?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 19:01 GMT
#1309
Are you actually drunk rayn? This conversation doesn't make sense.

Hf is mafia because he asked about my checks.
Just wanted to check.
Hf is mafia because jock ruined a plan and squishy slipped???
What are you talking about rayn?
I'm so fucking mad at what you did.

????
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 19:04 GMT
#1314
On August 25 2019 04:00 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
we need to kill hf, then squishy. ggnore.


Wait has everyone been in the thread since rayn claimed?
No counter claim?

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 03:39 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2019 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2019 03:37 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2019 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2019 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2019 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
jock and squishy are different.


Which one is which.

idk but squishy scumslipped and jock fucked up your "pro town" shit on no-lynching, so... yeah.


? How can you not know. Which is red and which is green?

are you dumb or what?


You are fake claiming then?


HF you'll have to help me out i don't understand. Why is rayn fakeclaiming?


Because at that point he simply said different rather than the colours. Thought he might have been claiming parity instead of a sanity cop. I dunno, only skimming tbh.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 19:07 GMT
#1323
Not really sure what rayn is talking about tbh. Anyone can easily read my posts today and see I had no idea about the 2kp at all. Especially making a fucking cop claim game ending strategy WHILE JOCK WAS ASKING FOR HOST CLARIFICATION ABOUT KP.

Most pointless shit in the world.

Did mafia know about 2kp n3 all game?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 19:09 GMT
#1329
Don't think it's insane in the slightest. Probably just chez and squishy.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 19:10 GMT
#1330
On August 25 2019 04:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
HF is QQing rn


??? Lol?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 19:14 GMT
#1333
There is a reason, the exact same reason your possible confirmed town person made the exact same read on squishy. His tone sounded ok. Since that post I haven't unvote squishy, nor have I even been here to say anything else.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 19:34 GMT
#1342
On August 25 2019 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I want to know if it is you HF,

Why did you back off from 100% case?


Are you talking about squishy case?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 19:39 GMT
#1344
I've already talked about why.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 19:42 GMT
#1348
On August 24 2019 07:02 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 07:01 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 06:58 Holyflare wrote:
I am in a really foul mood after this 2kp bull shit by the way.

Not only have I outed myself as a VT if we lynch correctly but if Squishy is town then they know he is very probably a VT too. That gives them a 50% chance to kill the cop instead of the max 33% that I had planned.


How do you know this?


Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 05:47 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:36 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:28 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.
If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.


On August 24 2019 05:01 Jockmcplop wrote:
On the other hand, we definitely shouldn't mislynch because Slam tells me that mafia gets 2 night kills tonight.



Nope nope nope. Mafia, mafia, mafia. Your post came before Jock's

Unlucky.


I was trying to comprehend what no lynch would do. And why no lynch would be a good thing? If we no lynch they get two town kills yes?

Now mafia gets two town kills regardless? After Jock's pm


How do mafia get 2 town kills if we no lynch? On what planet is that correct unless you know mafia gets 2 kills?


I literally had no idea what I was talking about. I read your if there is 2nk post here:

https://tl.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=1033&topic_id=550431

And I took it at face value to why no lynch would be good.

I am vanilla town. Remember reading this would be a VERY vanilla game because it is vaporwave. Well I am the third vanilla towny. I may have just thrown this game for town because I did not know what I was talking about.


Just taking his post at face value, the tone seemed pretty townie.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 19:45 GMT
#1351
On August 25 2019 04:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 04:39 Holyflare wrote:
I've already talked about why.

ok. i think it doest sound like you as town.


You have literally 0 idea how to read me then. I don't think his explanation was awful at all and the last paragraph sounded townie even. After I'd just hard claimed vt he seemed sad to lose the game for town. Seemed legit to me.

Then I just stopped caring because cop strung me along for 7 hours and didn't claim cop and I've been out all day.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 19:45 GMT
#1352
On August 25 2019 04:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
what you just quoted is bullshit and i demonstrated it.


I don't know how you demonstrated it but ok, say what you want.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 19:46 GMT
#1354
It's my very real thoughts that are shared by at least 1 other townie.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 19:59 GMT
#1361
On August 25 2019 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 04:45 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2019 04:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2019 04:39 Holyflare wrote:
I've already talked about why.

ok. i think it doest sound like you as town.


You have literally 0 idea how to read me then. I don't think his explanation was awful at all and the last paragraph sounded townie even. After I'd just hard claimed vt he seemed sad to lose the game for town. Seemed legit to me.

Then I just stopped caring because cop strung me along for 7 hours and didn't claim cop and I've been out all day.

so you want to lynch him or jock?


If it's the choice between the two, then I will keep my vote on squishy.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 20:06 GMT
#1366
On August 25 2019 05:00 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2019 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2019 04:45 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2019 04:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2019 04:39 Holyflare wrote:
I've already talked about why.

ok. i think it doest sound like you as town.


You have literally 0 idea how to read me then. I don't think his explanation was awful at all and the last paragraph sounded townie even. After I'd just hard claimed vt he seemed sad to lose the game for town. Seemed legit to me.

Then I just stopped caring because cop strung me along for 7 hours and didn't claim cop and I've been out all day.

so you want to lynch him or jock?


If it's the choice between the two, then I will keep my vote on squishy.


So you do NOT suspect rayn to be mafia then?


I never said I did lol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 21:32 GMT
#1372
On August 25 2019 05:26 CopCake wrote:
Ok so end of the story

Is chez and squishy right?

Just like the fucking beginning.


Why are you not voting wtf?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 22:47 GMT
#1377
On August 25 2019 07:17 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 06:32 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2019 05:26 CopCake wrote:
Ok so end of the story

Is chez and squishy right?

Just like the fucking beginning.


Why are you not voting wtf?


It is my bday weekend ):



Happy birthday! I got you a mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 22:47 GMT
#1378
On August 25 2019 06:36 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 04:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
ie anyone who isn't voting for squishy right now is mafia.


Do you suspect this because mafia knows I am town and know it’ll be a mislynch. They can use their knowledge to look innocent


You do know that rayn has claimed cop with a red check on either you or jock right?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 23:09 GMT
#1381
If what Squishy said here is true then mafia KP might only be one if we lynch him?

On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.
If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 23:30 GMT
#1385
Cool, well Squishy into Chezinu, that makes it easy.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 23:43 GMT
#1390
On August 25 2019 08:40 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 08:30 Holyflare wrote:
Cool, well Squishy into Chezinu, that makes it easy.


Vice versa will go much better. Because I am town. Mislynch is going to suck. I will take fault if Chez somehow comes out town


Do you even understand the situation...? You have been red checked or jock has been red checked.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 23:48 GMT
#1393
On August 25 2019 08:45 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 08:43 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2019 08:40 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 25 2019 08:30 Holyflare wrote:
Cool, well Squishy into Chezinu, that makes it easy.


Vice versa will go much better. Because I am town. Mislynch is going to suck. I will take fault if Chez somehow comes out town


Do you even understand the situation...? You have been red checked or jock has been red checked.


We have some liars...


So rayn is mafia then?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 23:50 GMT
#1395
On August 25 2019 08:45 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 08:43 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2019 08:40 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 25 2019 08:30 Holyflare wrote:
Cool, well Squishy into Chezinu, that makes it easy.


Vice versa will go much better. Because I am town. Mislynch is going to suck. I will take fault if Chez somehow comes out town


Do you even understand the situation...? You have been red checked or jock has been red checked.


We have some liars...


Rayn does not know his sanity so he doesn't know if his checks are backwards. He knows you and Jock are opposite alignments though. If you are town you should be voting for Jock if you believe Rayn is the cop (which if you are town, you have no reason currently not to).

Are you saying you do not believe Rayn is the cop?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 23:50 GMT
#1396
On August 25 2019 08:49 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2019 06:02 Alakaslam wrote:
SETUP IS ONLY THIS OPEN: IT IS ONE THAT I LINKED BUT NOT THE VENGEFUL BECAUSE IF IT WAS RAYN WOULD OUT


Does someone one to the find the set up that Slam linked?
[/b][/dblue]

We did.... when you were defending squishy with your wrong logic :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 24 2019 23:52 GMT
#1398
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C-C9
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 25 2019 00:22 GMT
#1415
On August 25 2019 09:10 CopCake wrote:
@HF

Town bro help a birthday sister here

Read Chezinu's filter which is not that big

Look how he interacts with Ewya

He also was about to change votes because "he believed he was a girl"

He almost fucked up the train, why?



Are you mafia or what? Why do you want to lynch outside of a 50/50 chance of hitting mafia? Just because rayn doesn't know his sanity literally doesn't matter. You either think Jock is mafia or you think Squishy is mafia. There is no other lynch.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 25 2019 00:46 GMT
#1424
On August 25 2019 09:39 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 04:07 Holyflare wrote:
Not really sure what rayn is talking about tbh. Anyone can easily read my posts today and see I had no idea about the 2kp at all. Especially making a fucking cop claim game ending strategy WHILE JOCK WAS ASKING FOR HOST CLARIFICATION ABOUT KP.

Most pointless shit in the world.

Did mafia know about 2kp n3 all game?

Everyone had the opportunity to know. It simply requires paying attention early. I will make a quote.

Pregame Raynpelikoneet


This is not true, just because Raynpelikoneet, a non-host says something does not mean that it was accepted by the host, nor does it mean mafia even knew about it.

I actually checked the OP for once and all that it said was that there were 2 mafia goons and that's it and that the setup is closed but it is one of the ones you have mentioned.

So, please, answer whether mafia were explicitly told in their QT or otherwise that they would have KP this night at any point.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 25 2019 00:56 GMT
#1430
Ok, so your post is super ominous to whatever change you think you were making (the 2kp). As people that do not know the setup we have no way of knowing that you followed Rayn's post at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 25 2019 00:58 GMT
#1431
I am just going to take it that mafia did not know about the 2kp which means Squishy's slip about the 2kp means absolutely nothing.

But all his posts still look like TMI so whatever.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 25 2019 01:00 GMT
#1432
If there was a cop that wasn't rayn and you did not claim and we are blindly lynching Squishy because Rayn said so then you better fucking hurry up and get your fingers out of your arses.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 25 2019 10:34 GMT
#1476
Are you fucking serious copcake? Always counter claim. ALWAYS.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 25 2019 10:35 GMT
#1477
And this 2kp thing was really a fuck up. Nobody knew about it and you can't say that we should have known ablut something nobody ever mentioned. If mafia were never aware then squishy is never mafia there, cop reveals and rayn is mafia. Job done.

Fml.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 25 2019 10:48 GMT
#1479
Thanks for hosting either way.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 25 2019 11:35 GMT
#1481
On August 25 2019 20:33 Vivax wrote:
Jocks scum game has improved from his last scum game. He might have even won this after a rayn lynch. I really don't know how cop and HF couldn't read rayn if eywa can. Maybe we should elevate this strategy of threatening to stop playing to scum standard until it stops working.


It's hard to lynch an un ccd cop my dude.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 25 2019 14:33 GMT
#1488
On August 25 2019 23:13 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 19:35 Holyflare wrote:
And this 2kp thing was really a fuck up. Nobody knew about it and you can't say that we should have known ablut something nobody ever mentioned. If mafia were never aware then squishy is never mafia there, cop reveals and rayn is mafia. Job done.

Fml.

Yes, but I can’t reveal what I tell the mafia. And FF did know about the rule the whole time.

Correct, I failed to make it clear. I fucked up. I was trying to make clear that it was the case without stating that I had to tell the mafia team.

To do otherwise would have been cheating, HF.


I don't think it's cheating to say mafia know the mafia setup because mafia could have easily pushed me for making a no lynch plan.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 25 2019 16:45 GMT
#1489
Wait wait, waittttt.

What were copcake's checks? Eywa who flipped and squishy?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 25 2019 16:51 GMT
#1491
Oh checking FF.... really boring
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 25 2019 16:53 GMT
#1492
I think in future I'm just not going to sign up to games that I can't be around for deadline. It's silly having 8-ish hours of time people can talk while the entirety of Europe is just not there that's critical to a lynch.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 25 2019 22:10 GMT
#1498
On August 26 2019 06:13 Eywa- wrote:
I'm not sure why you guys didn't sheep me... Rayn was obvious and Jock was PoE with 50/50 shot.

I think both HF and Jock are probably better scum players than town players, but the rest of the town felt very obvious with associative reads.


What you stated in the obs qt about following my reads is because I used to be a really good town player (at least, actually lynching mafia consistently) but that's changed nowadays and it feels like nobody really plays the style that is compatible with me and nobody has the time either (and neither do I to be honest. Don't care enough).

I think town people played relatively well in displaying their towniness though.
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