I'd suggest lenient activity requirements and a setup that allows town to take out the trash. We're pulling in a lot of people whose forum checking rhythm may be off.
Also can we please have mayor elections, those are always great.
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I'd suggest lenient activity requirements and a setup that allows town to take out the trash. We're pulling in a lot of people whose forum checking rhythm may be off. Also can we please have mayor elections, those are always great. | ||
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On February 24 2019 13:46 Chezinu wrote: Hey guys, It's time. It time for that pregame theme party. Dear brethren, Once again, we have arrived to the end of the world. I know in recent decades that we have had many end of the world parties. I still recall missing our bus driver in PYP due to the rapture party. I know, the Mayan calendar scare.. Y2K... The next ice age was coming, then there was deforestation and running out of oxygen, then came the acid rain along with captain planet, then global warming or now climate change... Al Gore was wrong... But now we have a new green deal, where some scientists, albeit not as notable as Bill Nye, are claiming the world's end in 12 years. Today, we are not gathered for any of these reasons... There have been many false prophets... This is the sign of the end times... We are in the last days! There will be a day when people will call good evil and evil good! Today, we celebrate the end of the world... the world as we know it. FOR THERE SHALL BE A REVOLUTION!!!! LIQUIDIA SHALL SPRINGS OF FLOWING MEMBERS ONCE AGAIN!!!!!! WE SHALL PLAY GAMES WE HAVE NEVER IMAGINED BEFORE!!! OUT OF THE DESERT WILL SPRING A NEW SPRING!!! THE SPRING OF 2019!!!!!! LET US REMEMBER THIS TIME!!! The game before the new game!!! For there will come a time when we shall answer the question to play the game like never before! Will we answer the call to play this game?!??! Will we venture to draw upon the blank screens of the future to guess the identity of those we know not??!?? Come let us celebrate this end not of destruction, but as the last death to a new beginning! https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25972745 | ||
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On March 03 2019 09:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Show nested quote + On March 03 2019 09:38 Palmar wrote: Oh wait we have a mayor thing. I am running for mayor Who would you lynch and why No one, not reading the game yet. | ||
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On March 03 2019 00:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Not reading my role PM until N1 ftr Actually, I'd policy lynch this guy. | ||
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On March 03 2019 11:32 LightningStrike wrote: Sent is policy at best I wont lynch him unless there is no better option honestly. There is literally no better option on day 1 than policy. Those are the best lynches on day 1 because you get rid of trash on a day with no information. | ||
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On March 02 2019 10:16 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On March 02 2019 10:06 Trfel wrote: On March 02 2019 10:02 LightningStrike wrote: Can't you just check the QT? On March 02 2019 10:01 Trfel wrote: Hi, I am mafia Cool who are your buddies? Also, to unvote in the mayor election you unmayor someone? That sounds pretty crazy xD And before anyone asks the inevitable question, there are seven mafia in the game, so we don't have to argue about it, cool? No self respecting town person reads setup. You're mafia. Hf might be town. The reason he wrote this post is probably that he noticed the “7 Mafia” comment and checked if it was in the op. It is not a strong read but it’s something | ||
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On March 03 2019 11:43 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On March 03 2019 11:34 Palmar wrote: On March 03 2019 11:32 LightningStrike wrote: Sent is policy at best I wont lynch him unless there is no better option honestly. There is literally no better option on day 1 than policy. Those are the best lynches on day 1 because you get rid of trash on a day with no information. But I rather try to lynch scum That is what’s I’m trying to help your do man... | ||
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On March 03 2019 11:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Show nested quote + On March 03 2019 11:34 Palmar wrote: On March 03 2019 11:32 LightningStrike wrote: Sent is policy at best I wont lynch him unless there is no better option honestly. There is literally no better option on day 1 than policy. Those are the best lynches on day 1 because you get rid of trash on a day with no information. Getting rid of trash on a day with no information = no further information besides whether or not said trash was scum or town I'm not reading my PM, pile those votes on Incorrect and okay. We’re murdering you then and I have no concerns about information your death provides. | ||
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On March 03 2019 11:51 LightningStrike wrote: Sent please read your role pm at some point before EoD would greatly appreciate it. <3 You don’t have to negotiate with the terrorist, just vote him. | ||
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March 03 2019 09:51 GMT
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On March 03 2019 18:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: Quick summary, more on when i get on computer (aka wake up again).. iamperfection actually looks really townie from later posts. I am okay with him being mayor. (Or go with Palmars plan, although he is prolly mafia but i cba of he just kills sentinel). Holyflare is mafia. He made a complete trashcan case on me that's factually incorrect and followed it up by "i dont understand any of his townreads", which if he believed in should always warrant a vote on me. Yet he just leaves it to it and does nothing. Very very mafia. rsoultin made the saddest series of posts basicalöy ever where she calls me "you look very town but i am wary" and after hf's trash case i am suddenly her #2 scumread. I mean this is literally the stupidest thing i have read anywhere this year... i am scum because i look town and hf said things that arent even true? Okay.... sadly enough i dont think it makea her mafia but i am never gonna believe she wiöl make rational decisions towards me / bssed on what i say so i have no intention of wasting my time talking to her. Then there are tubesock and slam who +1 both of above. I'd say one mafia there. Slam has looked a bit more town lately and certainly isnt even rwading rhe game based on his posts so who knows.. I think Palmar found an easy way out to "play" during weekend on sentinel and os trying to look better. I dont really believe he comes and says "hi see you on monday i dont play on weekends" and then starts reading the thread anyways as town. If you know palmar you probably know what i mean. Oatsmaster is very likely to be town and hf's meta read on him is completely incorrect. Not that oats is helping much or isn't a headless chicken but that doesnt mean he is mafia, in fact it meeans the opposite quite often. Acrofales has only talked about lurker after lurker after lurker. More likely to be scum. Only real read he gave was TT based on one post that he disageed with (liked the tone), but then wants him as mayor???!?!?!? Why do yoi want someone you dont think is right to be mayor?!?! Like why the fuck would you ever want that? Now good more night. Thanks I hate it | ||
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March 03 2019 10:18 GMT
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On March 03 2019 19:12 Tubesock wrote: Show nested quote + On March 03 2019 18:56 Holyflare wrote: On March 03 2019 18:47 Tubesock wrote: On March 03 2019 18:35 Holyflare wrote: On March 03 2019 18:30 Tubesock wrote: On March 02 2019 20:33 Holyflare wrote: If anyone cares my reads align with rsoul. I think. Chez suspicious. Guy posting catch ups was it trfel? Seemed mediocre and not any revelations. Iamp piggybacking me suspicious. Don't care if I like what he's said about people non-posting. That's easy to do. Didn't like rayn that much tbh. He seems to not be saying much but talking in walls of text and circles. I dunno I'm sorry I'm a bit shit right now but whatever. On March 03 2019 04:20 Holyflare wrote: Don't really get any of the rayn town reads. He's a complete non entity. Not really a case but you did scumread him. Wouldn't say that's a scum read. If anything it's the scummy side of null and was more an extrapolation of everyone else's mindsets on rayn than a read on him. I just didn't agree with people town reading rayn and didn't understand how they reached that conclusion when he's mediocre af. Ok. If Oats didn’t hilariously get your filter incorrect, or at least say all your posts were serious, would you think he’s any different than his normal grouchy mcgroucherson town self? To me his entrance where every single person in the game is scum is normal town for him. Last I saw him as scum (years ago I know) he threw out maybe 4 scumreads and was a little less abrasive. Much less wave making than this game. I don't think he's any different from his scum or town game that I remember. It seems to be a scum team strat to push me though because I don't think I've done anything underhanded or misguided this entire game. Just been honest and forthcoming yet have two people with somehow overwhelmingly strong scum reads on me. Seems majorly fabricated. Oats had x amount of scum reads based on people that voted other people for mayor (which I didn't!) yet have you heard anything in depth about anyone other than me? You’re right he spends most his time in you. But that’s because someone asks him, he explained a couple other reads. Much of his scumreads are try hards. Looks like Sentinel is winning the vote, if he’s lynch would you kill Oats? @sentinel & Palmar voters, isn’t voting for both of them redundant? No it’s great. If town lynches Sentinel I can use my mayor vote to smite some non-believer | ||
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March 03 2019 11:02 GMT
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On March 03 2019 18:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think Palmar found an easy way out to "play" during weekend on sentinel and os trying to look better. Okay, so the assumption is that if I'm mafia I'm lazy and would thus find something easy to talk about. Never mind that rayn knows I am and have always been for policy lynching. I'm pretty sure I've lynched mafia for "not reading role pm" on day 1 before. On March 03 2019 18:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dont really believe he comes and says "hi see you on monday i dont play on weekends" and then starts reading the thread anyways as town. Then his assumption is that he doesn't believe I'd not be lazy as town, thus I must be scum because... I'm reading the thread? Again note that this is a pretty standard town-Palmar thing to do, to get drawn to the thread because I'm interested even if I wanted to just go afk. Check the time stamp on my posts last night, I was staying up for this shit. But anyway, I'm not sure it's 100% a contradiction because the context is slightly different, but it's definitely something. It might be rayn just sucking but he really pulls this shit as mafia too. I do hate it and rayn is probably my backup lynch today at the moment. But I have opinion on like 20-30% of the game at the moment so it's not much. On March 03 2019 18:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you know palmar you probably know what i mean. No one on TL knows me worse than you rayn, no one. You compare me every game to some version of me that only exists in your mind and conclude shit. I don't want this game to devolve into a shouting match, for my own sanity I'm gonna focus anything but rayn. But I really, really hated his big analysis post. Like why the fuck are you complaining about Acro doing legwork on lurkers, what the hell is that? | ||
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March 03 2019 11:11 GMT
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On March 03 2019 20:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On March 03 2019 20:02 Palmar wrote: On March 03 2019 18:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you know palmar you probably know what i mean. No one on TL knows me worse than you rayn, no one. You compare me every game to some version of me that only exists in your mind and conclude shit. Na-ah, this is not debatable because there is nothing to "know", one can just go and read your posts during weekends in games (especially D1's). Imma talk to you about other stuff that doesn't wanna make me throw chairs at you. Do you remember back in the day when we policy lynched mafia together day 1. You didn't really like it and tried your best to derail town victory but thankfully people stuck with me. Twitter mafia, Chairman Ray claimed not to have read his role PM, I said fuck that noise and lynched him. Let's do it again for old time's sake buddy. | ||
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March 03 2019 11:12 GMT
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Kill the policy lynch, continue playing. On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote: Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1. On March 03 2019 17:11 Acrofales wrote: Oh, also, if sent was actually playing and being townie, I'd be more inclined to want him to live. But he has used this "foil" to be an attention whore and cop out of doing anything else so far. Not town play. | ||
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March 03 2019 11:16 GMT
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I just think it's a weak play if he's mafia, and I like the fact he's not just focusing on the things in the thread right at that moment. I didn't actually read much of his cases. I got the feeling, possibly wrong, that he was reading and responding in the thread while still trying to filter out a few people. It looks like he's trying. Like even if Sentinel flips town, lynching him is a good move for town right now. I have absolutely no qualms about killing people for playing anti-town. | ||
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March 03 2019 11:39 GMT
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On March 03 2019 20:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: First of all there is no figuring out if your policy lynch is ideological or scum, because its ideological regardless of your affiliation. I am not arguing lynching Sentinel is a bad thing i just dont come to games participating into policy lynches on people who dont post or dont read their role pm, because they should not join the games in the first place and should just fuck off and get modkilled. I play because i want to play and lynch mafia and there is no way to tell if those people are mafia or not. Well not everyone knows I'm ideologically inclined to policy lynch people. However that's moot, the main thing is that you will find mafia by policy lynching. People constantly underestimate the power of a policy lynch like this. As you can already tell anyone who says "Well we gain no information if everyone just votes Sentinel" is completely full of shit because that NEVER EVER happens. Pulling together policy lynches is hard work, this thread is proof of that. People are gonna have opinions on the notion and talk about other things in the process. Hell we have two lynches so other shit needs to be discussed too. Now give me my policy lynch (or vote me mayor) and I can spend my time not arguing with a bunch of people who think they're smarter than they are. On March 03 2019 20:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: I feel like the whole first chapter is full of nonsense because it doesn't really say anything. Second chapter also doesn't say anything because Sentinel isn't playing, it's like saying "i wouldn't call you mafia if you were more town". Second part is actually good. If you're gonna draw attention to yourself with some ridiculous stunt, you better have a play to follow up. He has nothing, it's just a mechanic to skate by on. Now I don't believe he hasn't read his role PM, I think he's full of shit and using it as cover. But that's just me. On March 03 2019 20:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Another thing; Do you think a guy who jumps guns blazing on people who jokingly (or not) claim mafia at the start of the game can somehow thing it is less suspicious to fake claim masons than to say that they are not actually masons? I mean like if your principles that strong on stuff like that (like for example you and your policies) how on earth does it makes sense the guy who is telling the truth is more worth questioning than the guy who is lying? I call big big BS on Meapak's stuff on that. I don't know what you're talking about. Wasn't it Damdred who claimed masons (as a pretty obvious joke). I actually liked Damdred's early posting. I haven't read/noticed anything by MZ. | ||
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March 03 2019 13:48 GMT
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March 03 2019 15:16 GMT
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On March 03 2019 23:18 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On March 03 2019 22:59 Dandel Ion wrote: Day One Vote Count Mayor Palmar (6): Palmar, Ticktock, Maepak_Zipphh, Chezinu, Acrofales, Vivax Holyflare (4): Tubesock, Alakaslam, Holyflare, rsoultin Chezinu (1): FecalFeast (1): Fecalfeast Vivax (1): Grackaroni [UoN]Sentinel (1): [UoN]Sentinel Tumblewood (1): Ace Oatsmaster (1): Oatsmaster BloodyC0bbler (1): BloodyC0bbler iamperfection (1): Ticktock (0): Lynch [UoN]Sentinel (6): Oatsmaster (3): Holyflare, Trfel, Palmar (2): Tubesock, rsoultin Meapak_Ziphh (1): Acrofales (1): sicklucker iamprefection (1): BloodyC0bbler Grackaroni (1): Acrofales Holyflare (1): raynpelikoneet Chezinu (0): ExO_ (0): Raynpelikoneet (0): Palmar is currently leading the Mayor race and [UON]Sentinel is set to be lynched. Remember to unvote when changing your vote (and do it correctly, aka denote which vote you are removing). The deadline is Tuesday, Mar 05 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in . Since we know Palmar wants to use his mayor thing on Sent why is Sent the leading vote again guys? Because the only thing better than Palmar controlling 1 kill is Palmar controlling 2 kills. | ||
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March 03 2019 15:19 GMT
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On March 04 2019 00:10 Vivax wrote: HF are you jealous of Palmar or something. For years now. | ||
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March 04 2019 08:42 GMT
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On March 04 2019 03:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'm VT btw Now apologize for playing anti town. I'm probably still going to kill you for playing anti town. Just so we're on the same page. | ||
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March 04 2019 08:51 GMT
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The only reservation I have about iamp is he has a lot of sort of... overly aggressive "questions", like responding to LS's outburst, asking who tina is. But that's a minor concern, he is 100% off the table is a lynch candidate today. He's probably one of my stronger townreads at the moment. | ||
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March 04 2019 08:55 GMT
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On March 04 2019 17:47 Acrofales wrote: Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 17:42 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 03:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'm VT btw Now apologize for playing anti town. I'm probably still going to kill you for playing anti town. Just so we're on the same page. Can't you just give him a slap on the wrist or something? Or at least tell us why his earlier shit outweighs the later stuff in deciding who to kill? Because this just sounds lazy to me. And I need you to be not-lazy so I can sheep you. He needs to repent for his sins and respect authority. I am authority. Also, I don't believe a word he says, I'm like 90% sure he's lying. I think one of two options is the real one here: a) He read his PM initially, claimed this gambit, got called out on his bullshit and is now trying to pull back from it. b) He didn't read his PM initially, and he didn't read it now. As soon as night falls he'll post "haha I didn't actually read my role PM suckers". I don't think for a second he just didn't read his role PM and then read it without question when told to. People are prideful and his turnaround was... too easy. He didn't resist enough, didn't try to spite me at all for forcing him to do this. Once you do anti town shit it takes a very, very long time for you to get back on my good side. | ||
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March 04 2019 09:03 GMT
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On March 04 2019 18:00 Holyflare wrote: Sentinel should have been modkilled. To be fair that was pretty clearly a joke (timestamp etc). But you should also not ask him questions like that. Stop inviting people to break the rules. | ||
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March 04 2019 09:03 GMT
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On March 04 2019 18:01 WaveofShadow wrote: Stop talking about mod stuff HF i hate that instant townread for WoS for being cool. | ||
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March 04 2019 09:12 GMT
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On March 04 2019 18:10 Tubesock wrote: Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 18:07 Holyflare wrote: My mayor lynch will be on Palmar by the way. For new reasons or stuff you’ve already said? I so much liked the second wagon bit. He's just envious mate. | ||
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March 04 2019 09:19 GMT
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The reason I think mafia is unlikely to be on HF's wagon is that it's a raggedy bunch of contrarians, baddies and outright trolls. I think these protest votes are actually more likely to be town. I think my wagon (and iamp's to a lesser extent) is a much safer bet for mafia. I'm the conventional choice, the easy choice to make. I'm playing pretty townie, I'm a well known name in all eras of TL Mafia, I have a clear objective etc. I think mafia is less likely to be contrarian like that. It's somewhat similar to my thoughts on sentinel, he might be mafia because he wasn't enough of a difficult assholes. If there is one way to describe the people on HF's wagon, including HF himself, it's "difficult assholes". | ||
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March 04 2019 09:21 GMT
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On March 04 2019 18:14 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 18:09 Jockmcplop wrote: On March 04 2019 18:07 Holyflare wrote: My mayor lynch will be on Palmar by the way. I can get behind this, but what's the reasoning behind it? Only talks about town reads, has no suspicions on pretty much anything in the game. Perpetuates nonsense policy lynch after he likes Sentinel's effort when he hasn't even read it. His last post about acro is entirely a wall of hedge whereby he looks like he's falsely weighing up Acro's alignment but really it's wishy washy and says nothing. His iamp read looks completely bs too for similar reasons to his acro read. Iamp is town but wait here's reasons I can say he's not town later in the game. None of this is concrete town palmar stuff. There's also the fact we can acknowledge that mafia were pushing for his candidacy if he does flip mafia Hold on a second... the bolded? What's that? | ||
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March 04 2019 09:55 GMT
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On March 04 2019 08:14 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + alarm bellOn March 04 2019 05:40 Pandain wrote: I'm only halfway through and might not even completely finishing catching up tonight, but I'm just going to say anyone who favors policy lynches is completely making the wrong decision. We literally already have over 60 pages of information to find scum, let's not waste a lynch. Favoring policy lynches encourages lazy play and for mafia just to blend in with bland reasons, and it doesn't benefit town because most people who get lynched from a policy lynched are the people who don't give a fuck (most likely town). Policy lynches are only good as a threat to promote good behavior, they're not good to actually implement. But I'm pretty sure most people favoring them right now don't have that view. Berates town when not even caught up..... He's not berating town at all, he's making an argument on how to play the game. It's actually put forward in a pretty respectful way. Of course it's fucking wrong but that's not the point. I fully believe Pandain actually believes what he's say. Overall I dislike Mocsta's filter. On March 04 2019 00:28 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + On March 02 2019 21:59 Trfel wrote: I actually kinda want to lynch sicklucker. He's currently contributed almost no reads (if I recall correctly, dislike of Acrofales and a town-to-meh read on rsoultin). Yet he took the time to defend himself verbosely from the slightest suspicion of rsoultin, which feels highly overdefensive, but his argument was defending his townread of rsoultin while his read, just previously posted, seemed far less committed: On March 02 2019 17:08 sicklucker wrote: rsoultin is town dawg. maybe. na. maybe. na Does that make sense? It doesn't look like he's trying to find mafia, just trying to exist. Bad post and trfel knows it Town can have all these symptoms.. which is why he hesitates with i kinds want to... Okay, so you think it's a bad post... and then what? I mean, Mocsta is not wrong, town does stupid shit, but the entire point of the exercise is to figure out which stupid shit is done by mafia. Even the wording on "Town can have all these symptoms" doesn't invalidate Trfel's point that mafia could have those symptoms. If it's such a bad post do you want to investigate Trfel? Because you didn't post about him ever again since then. Or was it simply a defense of sicklucker? I didn't think your "not posting shit in the thread" read on sicklucker is strong enough to warrant defending him. Overall the feeling I get from Mocsta is he's either attacking or complimenting single posts (the two I quoted, some post by BC etc) without much direction. He's not trying to get anything done, he's just... posting. He's a really good candidate for mafia. | ||
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March 04 2019 09:58 GMT
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On March 04 2019 18:40 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 17:55 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 17:47 Acrofales wrote: On March 04 2019 17:42 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 03:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'm VT btw Now apologize for playing anti town. I'm probably still going to kill you for playing anti town. Just so we're on the same page. Can't you just give him a slap on the wrist or something? Or at least tell us why his earlier shit outweighs the later stuff in deciding who to kill? Because this just sounds lazy to me. And I need you to be not-lazy so I can sheep you. He needs to repent for his sins and respect authority. I am authority. Also, I don't believe a word he says, I'm like 90% sure he's lying. I think one of two options is the real one here: a) He read his PM initially, claimed this gambit, got called out on his bullshit and is now trying to pull back from it. b) He didn't read his PM initially, and he didn't read it now. As soon as night falls he'll post "haha I didn't actually read my role PM suckers". I don't think for a second he just didn't read his role PM and then read it without question when told to. People are prideful and his turnaround was... too easy. He didn't resist enough, didn't try to spite me at all for forcing him to do this. Once you do anti town shit it takes a very, very long time for you to get back on my good side. I think there's quite a few obvious reasons Sentinel could do what he's done, as town, and none of them should make him the lynch today. No I know townies do stupid shit all the time. Including playing anti-town. It's the way he's gone about doing the things he did that's suspicious to me. In general people who play mafia think they're better than everyone else and are spiteful assholes. If he genuinely hadn't read his role PM I believe there is absolutely no way he just caved in I read it, thus option b). Now option b) says nothing about his alignment of course, as he still doesn't know it, but that's irrelevant. The option I think cannot be true is c) He didn't read his role PM, then caved in when I pressured him and read his role PM and claimed his role. I just don't think people work like that. Maybe I'm wrong, but yeah. I am very, very certain that either a) or b) is the truth, not c). | ||
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March 04 2019 10:02 GMT
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March 04 2019 10:09 GMT
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Town read: iamperfection Damdred Town lean: Holyflare Lightningstrike WaveofShadow Acrofales rsoultin Scum lean: rayn Scum read: Sentinel Mocsta As I write this... holy shit do I need to form opinions ona bunch of people. | ||
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March 04 2019 10:14 GMT
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On March 04 2019 02:53 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 02:44 Pandain wrote: I thought there was some special feature on the mafia subforum that let you see "all" posts even after 50. There is none? nope, the special feature we have over the regular forums is the filter button which we got after Nazgul played a game here and realized that it was awesome and felt sorry the rest of us didn't have it. | ||
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March 04 2019 10:16 GMT
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March 04 2019 10:29 GMT
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On March 04 2019 19:17 Jockmcplop wrote: Palmar can you explain your town read on damdred? I don't get it really. It's a meta/tonal read based on knowing Damdred. I can't be arsed going back to ensure I have the turn of events exactly right but something like this happened: Some people were kinda suspicious of LS I thought LS was pretty much being LS and looking pretty ok/town Read along towards Damdred casually claiming masons with LS Infer that what Damdred really means is he townreads LS (it was obviously a joke claim) So Damdred made the same read I did, and made a ridiculous claim as a defense of LS because to him (Damdred knows LS very well) it's pretty obvious this isn't mafia LS, at least not obvious mafia LS. It's both the way in which he made the claim, and the fact that his read matched with mine. I like Damdred's tone in other posts as well. I think his "kill from within" town cycle comment had the right amount of funny to not be a mafia trying too hard etc. | ||
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March 04 2019 10:29 GMT
#1751
On March 04 2019 19:27 Acrofales wrote: Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 19:20 Holyflare wrote: On March 04 2019 07:29 Acrofales wrote: On March 04 2019 07:22 Holyflare wrote: Acro, wave, oats, rayn, chez, ls, mocsta(?) (+a shit tonne of others that elude me) will be the lynch today. There's really so many people I could easily lynch and just not care tbh. Acro is town. Wave, oats I'm on board with. Rayn is a no. Your fight with him didn't give me scum vibes on either of you. Just made me want to tear my hair out. Chez also a no. He seems fine. LS I can't figure out, and can't be bothered to right now as I already have enough ppl I want to lynch. Mocsta said before the game he wouldn't be around and he wasn't around. His few posts don't seem scummy, but he'd better start playing tomorrow. Mate you really are mafia lol ? He's pointing out you seem to have switched opinions on rayn | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 10:42 GMT
#1754
On March 04 2019 19:37 Acrofales wrote: And @iamp: I'm getting to you. I need a PC tho, so hold on. But I don't think you'll like that I haven't come to a conclusion on your alignment. You're null. Iamp looks pretty town and has a case out on you, you need to work your ass off to stay alive if you're town. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 10:57 GMT
#1758
At the top of this page there is a list showing the people I have opinion on, that's about a third of the game maybe. Why are you asking me about exo? Why not Ace? Conversion? BC? Oats? or anyone else out of the 20 or so people I haven't gotten around to reading yet? | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 11:06 GMT
#1761
On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote: Its bullshit. No On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote: Im town and have no knowledge of scum or setup Neither does anyone else, doesn't stop them helping. On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote: Im nkt rjnning for mayor So what? On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote: The mayor / kynch is effectively spoken for.. What direction exactly is he expecting from me No it's not, the mayor race is very close and the lynch is on a very active player who is almost certainly going to make an effort not to get lynched. I'm expecting you to argue for your positions. On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote: If i post. Its no direction. If i dont post. Im useless town tonbe vigged Hes creating a damned if you do. Damned if you dont srgument. Its bullshit and i sont like it. This is incorrect. I want you to post, I'm just looking for your posts being in some coherent line of thought, some objective. If you want to make sure HF becomes the mayor, convince someone to help you do that. If you think Acro is the mafia, keep making the case. To be fair though, this outburst looks kinda less scummy so I'm on the fence on your alignment. Starting to think maybe you're just really, really bad and not mafia. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 11:07 GMT
#1762
On March 04 2019 20:05 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 19:35 Acrofales wrote: On March 04 2019 19:29 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 19:27 Acrofales wrote: On March 04 2019 19:20 Holyflare wrote: On March 04 2019 07:29 Acrofales wrote: On March 04 2019 07:22 Holyflare wrote: Acro, wave, oats, rayn, chez, ls, mocsta(?) (+a shit tonne of others that elude me) will be the lynch today. There's really so many people I could easily lynch and just not care tbh. Acro is town. Wave, oats I'm on board with. Rayn is a no. Your fight with him didn't give me scum vibes on either of you. Just made me want to tear my hair out. Chez also a no. He seems fine. LS I can't figure out, and can't be bothered to right now as I already have enough ppl I want to lynch. Mocsta said before the game he wouldn't be around and he wasn't around. His few posts don't seem scummy, but he'd better start playing tomorrow. Mate you really are mafia lol ? He's pointing out you seem to have switched opinions on rayn I have. The longer rayn goes without shitting up the thread the more I suspect him of scummy shenanigans. That's not to say scumrayn isn't an abusive asshole. He's generally more tunnelly as scum than as town, at least in my obviously imperfect recollection. But rayn is being uncharacteristically passive and the longer it goes the more I suspect him. Town rayn shits up the thread trying to find scum. Scum rayn shits up the thread for the sake of shitting up the thread. But rayn never doesn't shut up the thread. New behavior is weird. And probably scum weird. Why does rayn's activity have anything to do with his alignment? Palmar should also know this, and it's why he's mafia because it's a poor excuse to scum read rayn when there's plenty of other reasons to. Rayn works long hours so often goes long times without activity. The last thing he did when he was here was shit up the thread. This is a poor flip flop acro. Rayn did quickly defuse when I was arguing with him though, although some of it may be my reluctance to engage in the argument with him. I don't know what it means. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 11:08 GMT
#1763
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Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 11:18 GMT
#1766
On March 04 2019 20:13 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + Why dont you ask me then to explain further.On March 04 2019 19:57 Palmar wrote: I'm not treating your filter as worst possible scenario, I just looked at what was in it, which wasn't very much. I think it's not clear you investigated Trfel, you've not explained your reasoning for suspecting him beyond the one post I quoted. I'm not saying Trfel is town or anything, just that your reasons are trash. At the top of this page there is a list showing the people I have opinion on, that's about a third of the game maybe. Why are you asking me about exo? Why not Ace? Conversion? BC? Oats? or anyone else out of the 20 or so people I haven't gotten around to reading yet? That's not my job. If I see 2 people vote Acro, one makes a case and actively tries to get him lynched and the other one is "I'm fine with lynching Acro" and then not another word, it's usually obvious which one I believe is invested in getting the correct lynch. The onus is on you to push your ideas. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 11:27 GMT
#1773
On March 04 2019 20:15 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + *clap clap*On March 04 2019 20:06 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote: Its bullshit. No On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote: Im town and have no knowledge of scum or setup Neither does anyone else, doesn't stop them helping. On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote: Im nkt rjnning for mayor So what? On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote: The mayor / kynch is effectively spoken for.. What direction exactly is he expecting from me No it's not, the mayor race is very close and the lynch is on a very active player who is almost certainly going to make an effort not to get lynched. I'm expecting you to argue for your positions. On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote: If i post. Its no direction. If i dont post. Im useless town tonbe vigged Hes creating a damned if you do. Damned if you dont srgument. Its bullshit and i sont like it. This is incorrect. I want you to post, I'm just looking for your posts being in some coherent line of thought, some objective. If you want to make sure HF becomes the mayor, convince someone to help you do that. If you think Acro is the mafia, keep making the case. To be fair though, this outburst looks kinda less scummy so I'm on the fence on your alignment. Starting to think maybe you're just really, really bad and not mafia. you're just really, realy bad see. this is why this is the last game on this forum. Terrible mentality. To be honest, I didn't sign up to be abused like this. No you didn't hurt my feelings, but Im not gonna put up with this crap. I will give you one warning. Be a shithead like this again, and I will modkill. I have played fairly, and whether my style is to your liking, is YOUR problem to deal with. Of course it is, I hate the way you've played so far this game, which is why I called it really really bad. It's you, not me, who's skirting the rules by threatening to get yourself modkilled. I'm not the asshole here, you are. I push people's buttons to make them react. I get annoyed because you greatly misconstrued my position on you as a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario, when it's very obvious what the problem I have with your posting is. If you put words in my mouth, I have to call you mafia, unless I actually believe you believe what you're writing, in which case you're just not showing me the respect of actually reading what I'm saying, in which case I'm completely justified in calling you bad. It's super obvious I'm not against you posting. But for some reason you tried to paint it as such. After this exchange I actually don't think you did it because you're mafia. So what am I left with? | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 11:28 GMT
#1774
On March 04 2019 20:21 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + Bullshit.On March 04 2019 20:18 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 20:13 Mocsta wrote: On March 04 2019 19:57 Palmar wrote: Why dont you ask me then to explain further.I'm not treating your filter as worst possible scenario, I just looked at what was in it, which wasn't very much. I think it's not clear you investigated Trfel, you've not explained your reasoning for suspecting him beyond the one post I quoted. I'm not saying Trfel is town or anything, just that your reasons are trash. At the top of this page there is a list showing the people I have opinion on, that's about a third of the game maybe. Why are you asking me about exo? Why not Ace? Conversion? BC? Oats? or anyone else out of the 20 or so people I haven't gotten around to reading yet? That's not my job. If I see 2 people vote Acro, one makes a case and actively tries to get him lynched and the other one is "I'm fine with lynching Acro" and then not another word, it's usually obvious which one I believe is invested in getting the correct lynch. The onus is on you to push your ideas. You are debating about philosophy of how to play the game. Just because I differ, doesnt make me any less town or scum. There is a time and place to push; and when I entered Day1, the game was already at somehwat of a steady-state. I dont believe sicklucker even made a case on acro, so you are being intentionally malicious in your recollection of events towards me. No I just read your filter. Fuck I'm just gonna ignore you as I don't think you're mafia anyway. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 11:31 GMT
#1777
On March 04 2019 08:13 Conversion wrote: I’m back sort of. I have interviews all week so wont play much today. did MZ ever explain his reasoning on why he put Oats low on his scum list for scumreading me, the same as him, but excluded me from his to lynch list? also why he agreed with Oats making a large post of bullshit voted and saying “not town?” if not I’d like to lynch him We all know he could've checked the answer in like 3 mouse clicks. He's not posting because he wants to know whether this happened. He's posting because he's very gently asking other people to allow him to have the position that he's considering having. It's a really, really scummy post. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 11:33 GMT
#1778
On March 04 2019 20:30 Mocsta wrote: Show nested quote + fuck you palmar.On March 04 2019 20:27 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 20:15 Mocsta wrote: On March 04 2019 20:06 Palmar wrote: *clap clap*On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote: Its bullshit. No On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote: Im town and have no knowledge of scum or setup Neither does anyone else, doesn't stop them helping. On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote: Im nkt rjnning for mayor So what? On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote: The mayor / kynch is effectively spoken for.. What direction exactly is he expecting from me No it's not, the mayor race is very close and the lynch is on a very active player who is almost certainly going to make an effort not to get lynched. I'm expecting you to argue for your positions. On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote: If i post. Its no direction. If i dont post. Im useless town tonbe vigged Hes creating a damned if you do. Damned if you dont srgument. Its bullshit and i sont like it. This is incorrect. I want you to post, I'm just looking for your posts being in some coherent line of thought, some objective. If you want to make sure HF becomes the mayor, convince someone to help you do that. If you think Acro is the mafia, keep making the case. To be fair though, this outburst looks kinda less scummy so I'm on the fence on your alignment. Starting to think maybe you're just really, really bad and not mafia. you're just really, realy bad see. this is why this is the last game on this forum. Terrible mentality. To be honest, I didn't sign up to be abused like this. No you didn't hurt my feelings, but Im not gonna put up with this crap. I will give you one warning. Be a shithead like this again, and I will modkill. I have played fairly, and whether my style is to your liking, is YOUR problem to deal with. Of course it is, I hate the way you've played so far this game, which is why I called it really really bad. It's you, not me, who's skirting the rules by threatening to get yourself modkilled. I'm not the asshole here, you are. I push people's buttons to make them react. I get annoyed because you greatly misconstrued my position on you as a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario, when it's very obvious what the problem I have with your posting is. If you put words in my mouth, I have to call you mafia, unless I actually believe you believe what you're writing, in which case you're just not showing me the respect of actually reading what I'm saying, in which case I'm completely justified in calling you bad. It's super obvious I'm not against you posting. But for some reason you tried to paint it as such. After this exchange I actually don't think you did it because you're mafia. So what am I left with? im done Classy | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 11:37 GMT
#1780
On March 04 2019 20:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 20:07 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 20:05 Holyflare wrote: On March 04 2019 19:35 Acrofales wrote: On March 04 2019 19:29 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 19:27 Acrofales wrote: On March 04 2019 19:20 Holyflare wrote: On March 04 2019 07:29 Acrofales wrote: On March 04 2019 07:22 Holyflare wrote: Acro, wave, oats, rayn, chez, ls, mocsta(?) (+a shit tonne of others that elude me) will be the lynch today. There's really so many people I could easily lynch and just not care tbh. Acro is town. Wave, oats I'm on board with. Rayn is a no. Your fight with him didn't give me scum vibes on either of you. Just made me want to tear my hair out. Chez also a no. He seems fine. LS I can't figure out, and can't be bothered to right now as I already have enough ppl I want to lynch. Mocsta said before the game he wouldn't be around and he wasn't around. His few posts don't seem scummy, but he'd better start playing tomorrow. Mate you really are mafia lol ? He's pointing out you seem to have switched opinions on rayn I have. The longer rayn goes without shitting up the thread the more I suspect him of scummy shenanigans. That's not to say scumrayn isn't an abusive asshole. He's generally more tunnelly as scum than as town, at least in my obviously imperfect recollection. But rayn is being uncharacteristically passive and the longer it goes the more I suspect him. Town rayn shits up the thread trying to find scum. Scum rayn shits up the thread for the sake of shitting up the thread. But rayn never doesn't shut up the thread. New behavior is weird. And probably scum weird. Why does rayn's activity have anything to do with his alignment? Palmar should also know this, and it's why he's mafia because it's a poor excuse to scum read rayn when there's plenty of other reasons to. Rayn works long hours so often goes long times without activity. The last thing he did when he was here was shit up the thread. This is a poor flip flop acro. Rayn did quickly defuse when I was arguing with him though, although some of it may be my reluctance to engage in the argument with him. I don't know what it means. Yeah i tried to actually talk with you when you asked me to, then you never answered anything but with nonsense posts and then left.. So there is that. well you were gearing up for a shitstorm, and I'm trying to stay away from those by walking away from situations where I want to yell at people. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 11:39 GMT
#1781
On March 04 2019 20:31 Palmar wrote: I don't like Conversion's filter. I especially hate this post: Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 08:13 Conversion wrote: I’m back sort of. I have interviews all week so wont play much today. did MZ ever explain his reasoning on why he put Oats low on his scum list for scumreading me, the same as him, but excluded me from his to lynch list? also why he agreed with Oats making a large post of bullshit voted and saying “not town?” if not I’d like to lynch him We all know he could've checked the answer in like 3 mouse clicks. He's not posting because he wants to know whether this happened. He's posting because he's very gently asking other people to allow him to have the position that he's considering having. It's a really, really scummy post. As a follow up: I'm changing my vote to Conversion. Mafia don't reveal themselves with every post they make. It's usually just a few mistakes. This post is a very, very obvious mafia mistake. @rayn, could you be a dear and tell me I'm real smart for this? | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 11:57 GMT
#1785
On March 04 2019 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: That is completely made up interpretation of the situation. I was being polite and shit and these are the last things i asked you before you fucking off: Actually, turns out you are correct. I guess I was really angry at you for once again doing the thing I hate you doing, which is basically "town/scum palmar would never/always do this". You do this every game and are almost always wrong. So yeah, I really thought I needed to ignore you because of an imminent shitstorm (hence the "throwing chairs" comment). I guess I was projecting my annoyance towards you. I'm sorry bro, you were fine. Wrong, but fine. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 12:07 GMT
#1786
can someone please respond to the point I brought up about Conversion, I think it's a great point. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 13:08 GMT
#1794
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Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 13:11 GMT
#1795
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Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 13:45 GMT
#1811
On March 04 2019 22:15 Jockmcplop wrote: Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 22:11 Palmar wrote: I'm also interested in people who do not want to lynch Conversion and why. Well he's gone quiet recently which is a bit interesting but in that early exchange MZ came across much more scumlike to me. He was poking but in a weird way and conversion reacted defending himself. Okay but did you read my point, how he's asking a question that can be figured out in 3 mouse clicks and basing his game on that? Vivax put it nicely. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 13:51 GMT
#1814
On March 04 2019 22:46 Acrofales wrote: Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 22:11 Palmar wrote: I'm also interested in people who do not want to lynch Conversion and why. Two reasons: I don't think a scumversion would be bold enough to come into the thread and be the second guy to claim mafia. But I don't really know him and I did find it a shitty entrance to the thread. But useless townies being bad is not scum. It just seems too brazen for scum. I don't know conversion and maybe he does play this kind of game as scum where he drops in and claims scum, but it seems like he is drawing attention for no reason except to be an idiot. Which is, unfortunately, far more likely for town. Being excessively lazy just seems to be his thing: Show nested quote + On March 03 2019 23:52 Conversion wrote: someone xplain to me where mayors get a vig lynch basically? can’t find the info Regardless of town or scum, this is just being lazy. It is 2 clicks to open the OP and click on "Day 1" (okay, 3, because it's spoilered), where you can read all about the mayor election. Instead, he wants someone else to do it for him. That makes the post you tripped over far less telling. He's just being lazy, again. He is completely useless and might be scum. But I don't think he's a good lynch today. To be fair, I didn't find the Day 1 link until a little bit ago, I've been filtering Kita to get to the day 1 post. Your first point is just wifom. Experience tells us that randomly claiming mafia on TL is perfectly safe play for either side so there's no downside in doing it as mafia. And one would think he's much more invested (and thus motivated to actually do something) about his own scumread than some random rules stuff. I guess it's perfectly possible he's just a super lazy useless town, but in that case, why post the MZ post in the first place? Just choose to do nothing or vote him randomly. Why bother with the conditional "if x then I'll vote"? | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 13:52 GMT
#1818
On March 04 2019 22:46 Koshi wrote: @Acrofoles. Havent read why Oatsmaster is mafia in your case. Just that you dont understand and dislikes his playstyle. I read Oatsmaster his filter. My conclusion: Not a townread, but too aggressive and confrontational to be a mafia read and d1 lynch. Oats early filter is super bad because it's just aggressiveness with no actual goal behind it, but this roughly mirrors my feeling when I skimmed his filter yesterday. Oats just needs to calm the fuck down a bit and play slower but more focused, but it's Oats so who knows. He could very well be mafia but I think we have better shots (like Conversion or Sentinel) | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 13:54 GMT
#1820
On March 04 2019 22:53 Jockmcplop wrote: Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 22:45 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 22:15 Jockmcplop wrote: On March 04 2019 22:11 Palmar wrote: I'm also interested in people who do not want to lynch Conversion and why. Well he's gone quiet recently which is a bit interesting but in that early exchange MZ came across much more scumlike to me. He was poking but in a weird way and conversion reacted defending himself. Okay but did you read my point, how he's asking a question that can be figured out in 3 mouse clicks and basing his game on that? Vivax put it nicely. Both yours and vivax's points make sense i gotta say. Thing is, I can't see two mafia guys getting into it so early and my case against MZ: https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27275336 https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27277691 is stronger than the case here against conversion. Mafia argues with mafia all the time. I'll read your case. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 14:00 GMT
#1825
On March 04 2019 22:55 Jockmcplop wrote: Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 22:54 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 22:53 Jockmcplop wrote: On March 04 2019 22:45 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 22:15 Jockmcplop wrote: On March 04 2019 22:11 Palmar wrote: I'm also interested in people who do not want to lynch Conversion and why. Well he's gone quiet recently which is a bit interesting but in that early exchange MZ came across much more scumlike to me. He was poking but in a weird way and conversion reacted defending himself. Okay but did you read my point, how he's asking a question that can be figured out in 3 mouse clicks and basing his game on that? Vivax put it nicely. Both yours and vivax's points make sense i gotta say. Thing is, I can't see two mafia guys getting into it so early and my case against MZ: https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27275336 https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27277691 is stronger than the case here against conversion. Mafia argues with mafia all the time. I'll read your case. It was the first thing that happened in the thread though. Would they want to? Maybe i guess. Sure, why not, long day, plenty of time for town to forget about it, easy distancing points. It's a fine strategy. The point is whether you believe their points or not. The post I quoted by conversion is a very concerning instance of him clearly not believing in his own reads, because if he was actually interested in following up on his read he'd simply have checked it. He clearly doesn't give a shit if MZ is mafia or not, he just wants to post something that looks good. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 14:01 GMT
#1826
On March 04 2019 22:52 Koshi wrote: Can somebody explain the 7 mafia thing please? Who said it first and what is thread consensus around that. Went back and read up on this. Trfel trolled a bit, I think HF actually got trolled (but he will never admit this). I then got trolled by Trfel through HF. It's a bit. I can't find any information about mafia numbers in the OP. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 14:19 GMT
#1834
On March 04 2019 23:17 Conversion wrote: u dont want to lynch me fellas but I was all giddy tho | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 14:30 GMT
#1843
go after conversion -> leaves the game I may have a problem. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 14:33 GMT
#1849
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Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 14:43 GMT
#1857
I think we stay the course. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 14:44 GMT
#1859
On March 04 2019 23:41 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 23:28 Vivax wrote: If you're town here's what you're going to do: You accept your swift merciful death and thank us for relieving you from your duties in a busy week irl. You try to find oddities in the peeps pushing for your lynch and/or summarize for us why MZ should be the next lynch, cause that seems to be your only scumread atm. I'll honor your contributions, take them into consideration and if found worthy carry on your will throughout the game. Very town. I also always say these things when I am town and convinced. Cool stuff. Koshi how do you feel about rolling town? | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 15:53 GMT
#1901
On March 05 2019 00:10 iamperfection wrote: Palmar What do make of acro's most recent responses. He calls his whole wagon scummy but doesn't really draw a conclusion from it. He still doesn't "know " if I'm town despite my extreme aggressiveness and if anyone knows my meta its super obvious im town. Like to me I'm thinking he's not really trying to figure out alignments. Like if I'm in his spot he would have to think there is a scum or 2 on his wagon but seems to want to go on oats who is kind of eh. I had a town feel from Acro earlier and he's too active for me to want to lynch him day 1. I'm not gonna spend time actively defending him though, go ahead and try to murder him. I usually prefer to lynch shitty scum on day 1 rather than risk killing active players. Active players we can guarantee will provide more information on themselves down the line, whereas inactives will continue being question marks. I think Acro might be either, but I don't like the idea of killing him and I think it's the best play to find someone who is more useless. I'd rather have scum Acro running around day 3 than scum... Rels or BC or Blazinghand or someone who isn't posting at all. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 15:54 GMT
#1904
On March 05 2019 00:14 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 18:03 Holyflare wrote: On March 04 2019 18:01 WaveofShadow wrote: Stop talking about mod stuff HF i hate that What are you talking about? He either copied a pm from the host or forged one: On March 04 2019 03:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 04 2019 03:49 Holyflare wrote: On March 04 2019 03:49 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 04 2019 03:48 Holyflare wrote: Yeah, but Sentinel what does YOUR role pm say? On March 04 2019 03:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'm VT btw Yeah but YOURS. On March 04 2019 03:45 kitaman27 wrote: You're VT btw I responded to your joke with a joke. Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 18:19 Palmar wrote: I think my wagon (and iamp's to a lesser extent) is a much safer bet for mafia. I'm the conventional choice, the easy choice to make. I'm playing pretty townie, I'm a well known name in all eras of TL Mafia, I have a clear objective etc. I think mafia is less likely to be contrarian like that. I made this argument first btw. Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 18:58 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 18:40 Holyflare wrote: On March 04 2019 17:55 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 17:47 Acrofales wrote: On March 04 2019 17:42 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 03:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'm VT btw Now apologize for playing anti town. I'm probably still going to kill you for playing anti town. Just so we're on the same page. Can't you just give him a slap on the wrist or something? Or at least tell us why his earlier shit outweighs the later stuff in deciding who to kill? Because this just sounds lazy to me. And I need you to be not-lazy so I can sheep you. He needs to repent for his sins and respect authority. I am authority. Also, I don't believe a word he says, I'm like 90% sure he's lying. I think one of two options is the real one here: a) He read his PM initially, claimed this gambit, got called out on his bullshit and is now trying to pull back from it. b) He didn't read his PM initially, and he didn't read it now. As soon as night falls he'll post "haha I didn't actually read my role PM suckers". I don't think for a second he just didn't read his role PM and then read it without question when told to. People are prideful and his turnaround was... too easy. He didn't resist enough, didn't try to spite me at all for forcing him to do this. Once you do anti town shit it takes a very, very long time for you to get back on my good side. I think there's quite a few obvious reasons Sentinel could do what he's done, as town, and none of them should make him the lynch today. No I know townies do stupid shit all the time. Including playing anti-town. It's the way he's gone about doing the things he did that's suspicious to me. In general people who play mafia think they're better than everyone else and are spiteful assholes. If he genuinely hadn't read his role PM I believe there is absolutely no way he just caved in I read it, thus option b). Now option b) says nothing about his alignment of course, as he still doesn't know it, but that's irrelevant. The option I think cannot be true is c) He didn't read his role PM, then caved in when I pressured him and read his role PM and claimed his role. I just don't think people work like that. Maybe I'm wrong, but yeah. I am very, very certain that either a) or b) is the truth, not c). Between making a case on me based on your own insecurities and having a townread on two of the scummiest players in the game I'm starting to wonder if you're scum. Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 19:29 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 19:17 Jockmcplop wrote: Palmar can you explain your town read on damdred? I don't get it really. It's a meta/tonal read based on knowing Damdred. I can't be arsed going back to ensure I have the turn of events exactly right but something like this happened: Some people were kinda suspicious of LS I thought LS was pretty much being LS and looking pretty ok/town Read along towards Damdred casually claiming masons with LS Infer that what Damdred really means is he townreads LS (it was obviously a joke claim) So Damdred made the same read I did, and made a ridiculous claim as a defense of LS because to him (Damdred knows LS very well) it's pretty obvious this isn't mafia LS, at least not obvious mafia LS. It's both the way in which he made the claim, and the fact that his read matched with mine. I like Damdred's tone in other posts as well. I think his "kill from within" town cycle comment had the right amount of funny to not be a mafia trying too hard etc. You're going to have to explain to me like I'm 5 years old because you're the third player in this game that made some implicit assumption LS is town based on his earlier posts and then built everything off of that. LS is weird, bunch of us know him very well, that whole bunch seems to think he's town. I can't explain a read based on just knowing a person. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 15:56 GMT
#1906
On March 05 2019 00:24 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On March 05 2019 00:20 Holyflare wrote: Palmar gonna get mayor lynched For real though fuck flight delays I'm stuck in the airport forever. Do you really want to turn the first promising game in ages into a goddamn shithole by doing something that idiotic? If he does it town lynches him 100%. I actually think he's just trolling, but just wanted to get it out there. If he does lynch an active, townie player he's just mafia and no further questions need to be asked. Even if he was green checked/confirmed it would probably be the right play to lynch him anyway | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 15:57 GMT
#1907
On March 05 2019 00:56 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On March 05 2019 00:54 Palmar wrote: On March 05 2019 00:14 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 04 2019 18:03 Holyflare wrote: On March 04 2019 18:01 WaveofShadow wrote: Stop talking about mod stuff HF i hate that What are you talking about? He either copied a pm from the host or forged one: On March 04 2019 03:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 04 2019 03:49 Holyflare wrote: On March 04 2019 03:49 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 04 2019 03:48 Holyflare wrote: Yeah, but Sentinel what does YOUR role pm say? On March 04 2019 03:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'm VT btw Yeah but YOURS. On March 04 2019 03:45 kitaman27 wrote: You're VT btw I responded to your joke with a joke. On March 04 2019 18:19 Palmar wrote: I think my wagon (and iamp's to a lesser extent) is a much safer bet for mafia. I'm the conventional choice, the easy choice to make. I'm playing pretty townie, I'm a well known name in all eras of TL Mafia, I have a clear objective etc. I think mafia is less likely to be contrarian like that. I made this argument first btw. On March 04 2019 18:58 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 18:40 Holyflare wrote: On March 04 2019 17:55 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 17:47 Acrofales wrote: On March 04 2019 17:42 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 03:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'm VT btw Now apologize for playing anti town. I'm probably still going to kill you for playing anti town. Just so we're on the same page. Can't you just give him a slap on the wrist or something? Or at least tell us why his earlier shit outweighs the later stuff in deciding who to kill? Because this just sounds lazy to me. And I need you to be not-lazy so I can sheep you. He needs to repent for his sins and respect authority. I am authority. Also, I don't believe a word he says, I'm like 90% sure he's lying. I think one of two options is the real one here: a) He read his PM initially, claimed this gambit, got called out on his bullshit and is now trying to pull back from it. b) He didn't read his PM initially, and he didn't read it now. As soon as night falls he'll post "haha I didn't actually read my role PM suckers". I don't think for a second he just didn't read his role PM and then read it without question when told to. People are prideful and his turnaround was... too easy. He didn't resist enough, didn't try to spite me at all for forcing him to do this. Once you do anti town shit it takes a very, very long time for you to get back on my good side. I think there's quite a few obvious reasons Sentinel could do what he's done, as town, and none of them should make him the lynch today. No I know townies do stupid shit all the time. Including playing anti-town. It's the way he's gone about doing the things he did that's suspicious to me. In general people who play mafia think they're better than everyone else and are spiteful assholes. If he genuinely hadn't read his role PM I believe there is absolutely no way he just caved in I read it, thus option b). Now option b) says nothing about his alignment of course, as he still doesn't know it, but that's irrelevant. The option I think cannot be true is c) He didn't read his role PM, then caved in when I pressured him and read his role PM and claimed his role. I just don't think people work like that. Maybe I'm wrong, but yeah. I am very, very certain that either a) or b) is the truth, not c). Between making a case on me based on your own insecurities and having a townread on two of the scummiest players in the game I'm starting to wonder if you're scum. On March 04 2019 19:29 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 19:17 Jockmcplop wrote: Palmar can you explain your town read on damdred? I don't get it really. It's a meta/tonal read based on knowing Damdred. I can't be arsed going back to ensure I have the turn of events exactly right but something like this happened: Some people were kinda suspicious of LS I thought LS was pretty much being LS and looking pretty ok/town Read along towards Damdred casually claiming masons with LS Infer that what Damdred really means is he townreads LS (it was obviously a joke claim) So Damdred made the same read I did, and made a ridiculous claim as a defense of LS because to him (Damdred knows LS very well) it's pretty obvious this isn't mafia LS, at least not obvious mafia LS. It's both the way in which he made the claim, and the fact that his read matched with mine. I like Damdred's tone in other posts as well. I think his "kill from within" town cycle comment had the right amount of funny to not be a mafia trying too hard etc. You're going to have to explain to me like I'm 5 years old because you're the third player in this game that made some implicit assumption LS is town based on his earlier posts and then built everything off of that. LS is weird, bunch of us know him very well, that whole bunch seems to think he's town. I can't explain a read based on just knowing a person. The whole bunch seem to think the complete opposite lol Well, Damdred, rsoultin and I all agree | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 16:01 GMT
#1912
On March 05 2019 00:58 WaveofShadow wrote: Does ls needlessly martyr as scum? Usually a townie thing to do He's not mafia, just being emotional as usual. Also turns out rsoultin changed her mind on LS, so who knows what she is. My entire townread on her was based on agreeing with me and damdred about LS | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 16:02 GMT
#1915
On March 05 2019 01:00 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On March 05 2019 00:57 Palmar wrote: On March 05 2019 00:56 Holyflare wrote: On March 05 2019 00:54 Palmar wrote: On March 05 2019 00:14 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 04 2019 18:03 Holyflare wrote: On March 04 2019 18:01 WaveofShadow wrote: Stop talking about mod stuff HF i hate that What are you talking about? He either copied a pm from the host or forged one: On March 04 2019 03:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 04 2019 03:49 Holyflare wrote: On March 04 2019 03:49 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 04 2019 03:48 Holyflare wrote: Yeah, but Sentinel what does YOUR role pm say? On March 04 2019 03:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'm VT btw Yeah but YOURS. On March 04 2019 03:45 kitaman27 wrote: You're VT btw I responded to your joke with a joke. On March 04 2019 18:19 Palmar wrote: I think my wagon (and iamp's to a lesser extent) is a much safer bet for mafia. I'm the conventional choice, the easy choice to make. I'm playing pretty townie, I'm a well known name in all eras of TL Mafia, I have a clear objective etc. I think mafia is less likely to be contrarian like that. I made this argument first btw. On March 04 2019 18:58 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 18:40 Holyflare wrote: On March 04 2019 17:55 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 17:47 Acrofales wrote: On March 04 2019 17:42 Palmar wrote: [quote] Now apologize for playing anti town. I'm probably still going to kill you for playing anti town. Just so we're on the same page. Can't you just give him a slap on the wrist or something? Or at least tell us why his earlier shit outweighs the later stuff in deciding who to kill? Because this just sounds lazy to me. And I need you to be not-lazy so I can sheep you. He needs to repent for his sins and respect authority. I am authority. Also, I don't believe a word he says, I'm like 90% sure he's lying. I think one of two options is the real one here: a) He read his PM initially, claimed this gambit, got called out on his bullshit and is now trying to pull back from it. b) He didn't read his PM initially, and he didn't read it now. As soon as night falls he'll post "haha I didn't actually read my role PM suckers". I don't think for a second he just didn't read his role PM and then read it without question when told to. People are prideful and his turnaround was... too easy. He didn't resist enough, didn't try to spite me at all for forcing him to do this. Once you do anti town shit it takes a very, very long time for you to get back on my good side. I think there's quite a few obvious reasons Sentinel could do what he's done, as town, and none of them should make him the lynch today. No I know townies do stupid shit all the time. Including playing anti-town. It's the way he's gone about doing the things he did that's suspicious to me. In general people who play mafia think they're better than everyone else and are spiteful assholes. If he genuinely hadn't read his role PM I believe there is absolutely no way he just caved in I read it, thus option b). Now option b) says nothing about his alignment of course, as he still doesn't know it, but that's irrelevant. The option I think cannot be true is c) He didn't read his role PM, then caved in when I pressured him and read his role PM and claimed his role. I just don't think people work like that. Maybe I'm wrong, but yeah. I am very, very certain that either a) or b) is the truth, not c). Between making a case on me based on your own insecurities and having a townread on two of the scummiest players in the game I'm starting to wonder if you're scum. On March 04 2019 19:29 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 19:17 Jockmcplop wrote: Palmar can you explain your town read on damdred? I don't get it really. It's a meta/tonal read based on knowing Damdred. I can't be arsed going back to ensure I have the turn of events exactly right but something like this happened: Some people were kinda suspicious of LS I thought LS was pretty much being LS and looking pretty ok/town Read along towards Damdred casually claiming masons with LS Infer that what Damdred really means is he townreads LS (it was obviously a joke claim) So Damdred made the same read I did, and made a ridiculous claim as a defense of LS because to him (Damdred knows LS very well) it's pretty obvious this isn't mafia LS, at least not obvious mafia LS. It's both the way in which he made the claim, and the fact that his read matched with mine. I like Damdred's tone in other posts as well. I think his "kill from within" town cycle comment had the right amount of funny to not be a mafia trying too hard etc. You're going to have to explain to me like I'm 5 years old because you're the third player in this game that made some implicit assumption LS is town based on his earlier posts and then built everything off of that. LS is weird, bunch of us know him very well, that whole bunch seems to think he's town. I can't explain a read based on just knowing a person. The whole bunch seem to think the complete opposite lol Well, Damdred, rsoultin and I all agree Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 07:03 rsoultin wrote: On March 04 2019 07:01 Damdred wrote: On March 04 2019 06:59 rsoultin wrote: On March 04 2019 06:58 Damdred wrote: On March 04 2019 06:56 rsoultin wrote: On March 04 2019 06:52 Damdred wrote: @sen, I wanted to give your post a response that was not based on my feeling or tone. So here we go, The first thing I will point to is meta for LS, generally speaking he gives a good bit of town reads that seem flimsy early and he always seems to be noncommittal early. This is based off of meta and just not this game precisely. I do not think that this is a good point to have against him, he is always flip floppy on reads and super paranoid. However there is a great point that his reads lack many scumspects or anything revolving actual verifiable reads that say x is scum. He also is not as helpful this game as he generally would be, q lot of time he would dig in past games to figure out if player x does x or y. There is also the point of his weak rage, seemed to be under almost no pressure but this is a bull tell he generally only goes it as town but he broke this as scum years ago so is not something to fall back on. I think, that there is a chance that he is scum and you are correct Sen just based off the laziness and the lack of discernable scum reads that he is not pushing. However I do not think hes the best lynch today. But you did lit together a good case. This is a great post for why LS is scum. Just saying. Your right, I basically talked myself out of a hard town read just writing back i stead of on feels. I'd rather still not lynch him today as I think a night/day I could make heads or tails using my charm. But I wont cry and rant otherwise Not you. You're still in the doghouse of not damdying Ha, I was excited for a moment and felt that we had a connection....but seriously I think there are good points there but you have to agree that ls is enough of a hard read sometimes that two days are necessary. I don't have to agree on anything other than I'm floundering all over the place trying to find a good lynch today and will probably just end up sheeping iam or hf like a boob ^^ But I think you and LS and palmar and rayn all have good chances of flipping scum and maybe koshi and maybe chez but maybe not for #reasons and MZ is someone no one is talking about and Iam may be right on acro which gives me what? 8? So I'm wrong somewhere lol >< Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 06:52 Damdred wrote: @sen, I wanted to give your post a response that was not based on my feeling or tone. So here we go, The first thing I will point to is meta for LS, generally speaking he gives a good bit of town reads that seem flimsy early and he always seems to be noncommittal early. This is based off of meta and just not this game precisely. I do not think that this is a good point to have against him, he is always flip floppy on reads and super paranoid. However there is a great point that his reads lack many scumspects or anything revolving actual verifiable reads that say x is scum. He also is not as helpful this game as he generally would be, q lot of time he would dig in past games to figure out if player x does x or y. There is also the point of his weak rage, seemed to be under almost no pressure but this is a bull tell he generally only goes it as town but he broke this as scum years ago so is not something to fall back on. I think, that there is a chance that he is scum and you are correct Sen just based off the laziness and the lack of discernable scum reads that he is not pushing. However I do not think hes the best lynch today. But you did lit together a good case. They quite literally think the opposite. Prepare to die Palmar. Well Damdred doesn't wanna lynch him. at least. Turns out the other example I gave does. That's something I don't really pay too much attention to what other people think, they're not me. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 16:04 GMT
#1920
On March 05 2019 01:03 Vivax wrote: 7th mafia is BC btw. Well Ace said BC is mafia and I don't want to lynch Ace right now, which is unusual because he's usually a good day 1 lynch, being mostly useless. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 16:05 GMT
#1922
On March 05 2019 01:04 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On March 03 2019 20:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I honestly feel that watching you two(Palmar and Rayn) go back and forth on each other screams of two town getting into an argument due to differing reads on players for different reasons. Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 06:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Voted Holyflare as mayor. Of the people running he has clearly stated what he is going to do and thus if he doesn't you can hold him accountable. Hes also given far more content to look at than the other front runner. If he's referring to what I think he is, then he owned himself with these two posts. Yeah this is a good point. The accountable bullshit means nothing. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 16:09 GMT
#1926
On March 05 2019 01:00 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On March 05 2019 00:57 Palmar wrote: On March 05 2019 00:56 Holyflare wrote: On March 05 2019 00:54 Palmar wrote: On March 05 2019 00:14 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 04 2019 18:03 Holyflare wrote: On March 04 2019 18:01 WaveofShadow wrote: Stop talking about mod stuff HF i hate that What are you talking about? He either copied a pm from the host or forged one: On March 04 2019 03:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 04 2019 03:49 Holyflare wrote: On March 04 2019 03:49 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 04 2019 03:48 Holyflare wrote: Yeah, but Sentinel what does YOUR role pm say? On March 04 2019 03:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'm VT btw Yeah but YOURS. On March 04 2019 03:45 kitaman27 wrote: You're VT btw I responded to your joke with a joke. On March 04 2019 18:19 Palmar wrote: I think my wagon (and iamp's to a lesser extent) is a much safer bet for mafia. I'm the conventional choice, the easy choice to make. I'm playing pretty townie, I'm a well known name in all eras of TL Mafia, I have a clear objective etc. I think mafia is less likely to be contrarian like that. I made this argument first btw. On March 04 2019 18:58 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 18:40 Holyflare wrote: On March 04 2019 17:55 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 17:47 Acrofales wrote: On March 04 2019 17:42 Palmar wrote: [quote] Now apologize for playing anti town. I'm probably still going to kill you for playing anti town. Just so we're on the same page. Can't you just give him a slap on the wrist or something? Or at least tell us why his earlier shit outweighs the later stuff in deciding who to kill? Because this just sounds lazy to me. And I need you to be not-lazy so I can sheep you. He needs to repent for his sins and respect authority. I am authority. Also, I don't believe a word he says, I'm like 90% sure he's lying. I think one of two options is the real one here: a) He read his PM initially, claimed this gambit, got called out on his bullshit and is now trying to pull back from it. b) He didn't read his PM initially, and he didn't read it now. As soon as night falls he'll post "haha I didn't actually read my role PM suckers". I don't think for a second he just didn't read his role PM and then read it without question when told to. People are prideful and his turnaround was... too easy. He didn't resist enough, didn't try to spite me at all for forcing him to do this. Once you do anti town shit it takes a very, very long time for you to get back on my good side. I think there's quite a few obvious reasons Sentinel could do what he's done, as town, and none of them should make him the lynch today. No I know townies do stupid shit all the time. Including playing anti-town. It's the way he's gone about doing the things he did that's suspicious to me. In general people who play mafia think they're better than everyone else and are spiteful assholes. If he genuinely hadn't read his role PM I believe there is absolutely no way he just caved in I read it, thus option b). Now option b) says nothing about his alignment of course, as he still doesn't know it, but that's irrelevant. The option I think cannot be true is c) He didn't read his role PM, then caved in when I pressured him and read his role PM and claimed his role. I just don't think people work like that. Maybe I'm wrong, but yeah. I am very, very certain that either a) or b) is the truth, not c). Between making a case on me based on your own insecurities and having a townread on two of the scummiest players in the game I'm starting to wonder if you're scum. On March 04 2019 19:29 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 19:17 Jockmcplop wrote: Palmar can you explain your town read on damdred? I don't get it really. It's a meta/tonal read based on knowing Damdred. I can't be arsed going back to ensure I have the turn of events exactly right but something like this happened: Some people were kinda suspicious of LS I thought LS was pretty much being LS and looking pretty ok/town Read along towards Damdred casually claiming masons with LS Infer that what Damdred really means is he townreads LS (it was obviously a joke claim) So Damdred made the same read I did, and made a ridiculous claim as a defense of LS because to him (Damdred knows LS very well) it's pretty obvious this isn't mafia LS, at least not obvious mafia LS. It's both the way in which he made the claim, and the fact that his read matched with mine. I like Damdred's tone in other posts as well. I think his "kill from within" town cycle comment had the right amount of funny to not be a mafia trying too hard etc. You're going to have to explain to me like I'm 5 years old because you're the third player in this game that made some implicit assumption LS is town based on his earlier posts and then built everything off of that. LS is weird, bunch of us know him very well, that whole bunch seems to think he's town. I can't explain a read based on just knowing a person. The whole bunch seem to think the complete opposite lol Well, Damdred, rsoultin and I all agree Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 07:03 rsoultin wrote: On March 04 2019 07:01 Damdred wrote: On March 04 2019 06:59 rsoultin wrote: On March 04 2019 06:58 Damdred wrote: On March 04 2019 06:56 rsoultin wrote: On March 04 2019 06:52 Damdred wrote: @sen, I wanted to give your post a response that was not based on my feeling or tone. So here we go, The first thing I will point to is meta for LS, generally speaking he gives a good bit of town reads that seem flimsy early and he always seems to be noncommittal early. This is based off of meta and just not this game precisely. I do not think that this is a good point to have against him, he is always flip floppy on reads and super paranoid. However there is a great point that his reads lack many scumspects or anything revolving actual verifiable reads that say x is scum. He also is not as helpful this game as he generally would be, q lot of time he would dig in past games to figure out if player x does x or y. There is also the point of his weak rage, seemed to be under almost no pressure but this is a bull tell he generally only goes it as town but he broke this as scum years ago so is not something to fall back on. I think, that there is a chance that he is scum and you are correct Sen just based off the laziness and the lack of discernable scum reads that he is not pushing. However I do not think hes the best lynch today. But you did lit together a good case. This is a great post for why LS is scum. Just saying. Your right, I basically talked myself out of a hard town read just writing back i stead of on feels. I'd rather still not lynch him today as I think a night/day I could make heads or tails using my charm. But I wont cry and rant otherwise Not you. You're still in the doghouse of not damdying Ha, I was excited for a moment and felt that we had a connection....but seriously I think there are good points there but you have to agree that ls is enough of a hard read sometimes that two days are necessary. I don't have to agree on anything other than I'm floundering all over the place trying to find a good lynch today and will probably just end up sheeping iam or hf like a boob ^^ But I think you and LS and palmar and rayn all have good chances of flipping scum and maybe koshi and maybe chez but maybe not for #reasons and MZ is someone no one is talking about and Iam may be right on acro which gives me what? 8? So I'm wrong somewhere lol >< Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 06:52 Damdred wrote: @sen, I wanted to give your post a response that was not based on my feeling or tone. So here we go, The first thing I will point to is meta for LS, generally speaking he gives a good bit of town reads that seem flimsy early and he always seems to be noncommittal early. This is based off of meta and just not this game precisely. I do not think that this is a good point to have against him, he is always flip floppy on reads and super paranoid. However there is a great point that his reads lack many scumspects or anything revolving actual verifiable reads that say x is scum. He also is not as helpful this game as he generally would be, q lot of time he would dig in past games to figure out if player x does x or y. There is also the point of his weak rage, seemed to be under almost no pressure but this is a bull tell he generally only goes it as town but he broke this as scum years ago so is not something to fall back on. I think, that there is a chance that he is scum and you are correct Sen just based off the laziness and the lack of discernable scum reads that he is not pushing. However I do not think hes the best lynch today. But you did lit together a good case. They quite literally think the opposite. Prepare to die Palmar. By the way: Holyflare knows me mistaking earlier positions of rsoultin and Damdred from here: On March 02 2019 16:57 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On March 02 2019 10:27 Damdred wrote: LS is town, that is all. More when I get home and find a town circle to kill from within. Not sure if this makes you town or just stating the obvious lol and not realizing they had changed their view, is actually not scummy at all. It simply means I haven't read or followed every post in the thread. I'm just as likely to make that mistake as town and scum, and again, HF is perfectly aware of this. I'm like 90% sure he's just posturing, but in case he is not, if something like this is what he justifies lynching me on, that's only mafia HF play. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 16:09 GMT
#1928
On March 05 2019 01:07 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm not following the line on BC. Vivax spell it out for me? He doesn't do shit and what little he does is pointless. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 16:11 GMT
#1932
On March 05 2019 01:11 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On March 05 2019 01:09 Palmar wrote: On March 05 2019 01:00 Holyflare wrote: On March 05 2019 00:57 Palmar wrote: On March 05 2019 00:56 Holyflare wrote: On March 05 2019 00:54 Palmar wrote: On March 05 2019 00:14 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 04 2019 18:03 Holyflare wrote: On March 04 2019 18:01 WaveofShadow wrote: Stop talking about mod stuff HF i hate that What are you talking about? He either copied a pm from the host or forged one: On March 04 2019 03:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 04 2019 03:49 Holyflare wrote: [quote] Yeah but YOURS. On March 04 2019 03:45 kitaman27 wrote: You're VT btw I responded to your joke with a joke. On March 04 2019 18:19 Palmar wrote: I think my wagon (and iamp's to a lesser extent) is a much safer bet for mafia. I'm the conventional choice, the easy choice to make. I'm playing pretty townie, I'm a well known name in all eras of TL Mafia, I have a clear objective etc. I think mafia is less likely to be contrarian like that. I made this argument first btw. On March 04 2019 18:58 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 18:40 Holyflare wrote: On March 04 2019 17:55 Palmar wrote: [quote] He needs to repent for his sins and respect authority. I am authority. Also, I don't believe a word he says, I'm like 90% sure he's lying. I think one of two options is the real one here: a) He read his PM initially, claimed this gambit, got called out on his bullshit and is now trying to pull back from it. b) He didn't read his PM initially, and he didn't read it now. As soon as night falls he'll post "haha I didn't actually read my role PM suckers". I don't think for a second he just didn't read his role PM and then read it without question when told to. People are prideful and his turnaround was... too easy. He didn't resist enough, didn't try to spite me at all for forcing him to do this. Once you do anti town shit it takes a very, very long time for you to get back on my good side. I think there's quite a few obvious reasons Sentinel could do what he's done, as town, and none of them should make him the lynch today. No I know townies do stupid shit all the time. Including playing anti-town. It's the way he's gone about doing the things he did that's suspicious to me. In general people who play mafia think they're better than everyone else and are spiteful assholes. If he genuinely hadn't read his role PM I believe there is absolutely no way he just caved in I read it, thus option b). Now option b) says nothing about his alignment of course, as he still doesn't know it, but that's irrelevant. The option I think cannot be true is c) He didn't read his role PM, then caved in when I pressured him and read his role PM and claimed his role. I just don't think people work like that. Maybe I'm wrong, but yeah. I am very, very certain that either a) or b) is the truth, not c). Between making a case on me based on your own insecurities and having a townread on two of the scummiest players in the game I'm starting to wonder if you're scum. On March 04 2019 19:29 Palmar wrote: On March 04 2019 19:17 Jockmcplop wrote: Palmar can you explain your town read on damdred? I don't get it really. It's a meta/tonal read based on knowing Damdred. I can't be arsed going back to ensure I have the turn of events exactly right but something like this happened: Some people were kinda suspicious of LS I thought LS was pretty much being LS and looking pretty ok/town Read along towards Damdred casually claiming masons with LS Infer that what Damdred really means is he townreads LS (it was obviously a joke claim) So Damdred made the same read I did, and made a ridiculous claim as a defense of LS because to him (Damdred knows LS very well) it's pretty obvious this isn't mafia LS, at least not obvious mafia LS. It's both the way in which he made the claim, and the fact that his read matched with mine. I like Damdred's tone in other posts as well. I think his "kill from within" town cycle comment had the right amount of funny to not be a mafia trying too hard etc. You're going to have to explain to me like I'm 5 years old because you're the third player in this game that made some implicit assumption LS is town based on his earlier posts and then built everything off of that. LS is weird, bunch of us know him very well, that whole bunch seems to think he's town. I can't explain a read based on just knowing a person. The whole bunch seem to think the complete opposite lol Well, Damdred, rsoultin and I all agree On March 04 2019 07:03 rsoultin wrote: On March 04 2019 07:01 Damdred wrote: On March 04 2019 06:59 rsoultin wrote: On March 04 2019 06:58 Damdred wrote: On March 04 2019 06:56 rsoultin wrote: On March 04 2019 06:52 Damdred wrote: @sen, I wanted to give your post a response that was not based on my feeling or tone. So here we go, The first thing I will point to is meta for LS, generally speaking he gives a good bit of town reads that seem flimsy early and he always seems to be noncommittal early. This is based off of meta and just not this game precisely. I do not think that this is a good point to have against him, he is always flip floppy on reads and super paranoid. However there is a great point that his reads lack many scumspects or anything revolving actual verifiable reads that say x is scum. He also is not as helpful this game as he generally would be, q lot of time he would dig in past games to figure out if player x does x or y. There is also the point of his weak rage, seemed to be under almost no pressure but this is a bull tell he generally only goes it as town but he broke this as scum years ago so is not something to fall back on. I think, that there is a chance that he is scum and you are correct Sen just based off the laziness and the lack of discernable scum reads that he is not pushing. However I do not think hes the best lynch today. But you did lit together a good case. This is a great post for why LS is scum. Just saying. Your right, I basically talked myself out of a hard town read just writing back i stead of on feels. I'd rather still not lynch him today as I think a night/day I could make heads or tails using my charm. But I wont cry and rant otherwise Not you. You're still in the doghouse of not damdying Ha, I was excited for a moment and felt that we had a connection....but seriously I think there are good points there but you have to agree that ls is enough of a hard read sometimes that two days are necessary. I don't have to agree on anything other than I'm floundering all over the place trying to find a good lynch today and will probably just end up sheeping iam or hf like a boob ^^ But I think you and LS and palmar and rayn all have good chances of flipping scum and maybe koshi and maybe chez but maybe not for #reasons and MZ is someone no one is talking about and Iam may be right on acro which gives me what? 8? So I'm wrong somewhere lol >< On March 04 2019 06:52 Damdred wrote: @sen, I wanted to give your post a response that was not based on my feeling or tone. So here we go, The first thing I will point to is meta for LS, generally speaking he gives a good bit of town reads that seem flimsy early and he always seems to be noncommittal early. This is based off of meta and just not this game precisely. I do not think that this is a good point to have against him, he is always flip floppy on reads and super paranoid. However there is a great point that his reads lack many scumspects or anything revolving actual verifiable reads that say x is scum. He also is not as helpful this game as he generally would be, q lot of time he would dig in past games to figure out if player x does x or y. There is also the point of his weak rage, seemed to be under almost no pressure but this is a bull tell he generally only goes it as town but he broke this as scum years ago so is not something to fall back on. I think, that there is a chance that he is scum and you are correct Sen just based off the laziness and the lack of discernable scum reads that he is not pushing. However I do not think hes the best lynch today. But you did lit together a good case. They quite literally think the opposite. Prepare to die Palmar. By the way: Holyflare knows me mistaking earlier positions of rsoultin and Damdred from here: On March 02 2019 16:57 rsoultin wrote: On March 02 2019 10:27 Damdred wrote: LS is town, that is all. More when I get home and find a town circle to kill from within. Not sure if this makes you town or just stating the obvious lol and not realizing they had changed their view, is actually not scummy at all. It simply means I haven't read or followed every post in the thread. I'm just as likely to make that mistake as town and scum, and again, HF is perfectly aware of this. I'm like 90% sure he's just posturing, but in case he is not, if something like this is what he justifies lynching me on, that's only mafia HF play. I've made plenty of posts as to why you're mafia. You're the one pre-empting anything. People know I'll mayor you so you don't need to excuse your mafia ignorance. If they don't want you dead they shouldn't vote me. We'll see friendo, we'll see | ||
Palmar
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March 04 2019 16:13 GMT
#1937
I should update my reads list. | ||
Palmar
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March 04 2019 16:23 GMT
#1947
iamperfection Damdred Vivax Town lean: Lightningstrike WaveofShadow Acrofales rayn ExO_ Pandain Mocsta Koshi Ace Scum lean: Holyflare Fecalfeast rsoultin darthfoley Conversion Scum read: Sentinel BloodyC0bbler Updates: Holyflare goes to scum lean, if voted mayor and lynches me he is 100% mafia. He doesn't make that play as town, but loves doing a gambit like that as mafia. rayn upgraded, as pointed out earlier, I was projecting my anger on to him, he was actually trying to work with me. I'm still unsure about his lack of thread influence. He needs to be pushed in future days to actually do more. rsoultin downgraded, hadn't realized she changed her view on LS. BC added as scum read, just a shit filter in gneral Exo added as town lean, liked his filter. Pandain added as town lean, like his one post that someone was nitpicking at, think it was Mocsta Mocsta upgraded, still hate the way he's playing but his outburst seemed genuine. Threatened to get himself modkilled and I was very tempted to push his buttons but decided against it. Conversion as a scum read. While he did come back and give RL excuses it wasn't all that impressive. His post still looks really bad, the one where he conditionally says he wants to lynch MZ. Ace as town lean. I just liked his filter. Or rather, I didn't hate his filter, which is unusual for Ace. Vivax as a town read. Reasonable and cool guy. Koshi as a town lean, just a slightly dumber Vivax at the moment. df, can't even remember what I disliked about him but unimpressive. | ||
Palmar
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March 04 2019 18:47 GMT
#2109
On March 05 2019 02:25 Tictock wrote: not a fanSorry guys, haven’t had any time. Went out for drinks with a girl I work with last night and am working up to deadline today. My plan to sheep Rsoul is bunk kus she isn’t voting. So I think I am leaving my mayor vote with Palmar kus supposedly he and HF have the same goal and I have no confidence in HF being town yet, plus my other issues with him. Will consolidate on Acro as he seemed like a decent Lynch from what I have read. | ||
Palmar
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March 04 2019 21:38 GMT
#2389
On March 05 2019 06:38 Holyflare wrote: Palmar (11): Palmar, Ticktock, Meapak_Zipphh, Acrofales, Vivax, WaveofShadow, Grackaroni, Conversion, Alakaslam, Trfel, Blazinghand How has this guy got 11 people voting for him when his sole policy is only to kill Sentinel who doesn't even look bad? Almost the entirety, if not THE entirety of this wagon is the sketchiest people in this game. It's even growing! I have the best people. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 22:20 GMT
#2420
On March 05 2019 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar always talked to me like iam town while having scumread on me. I don't actually have a scumread on you. I thought I had one untilI re-read our interaction. You weren't actually mad, only me was mad. I did apologize for that. | ||
Palmar
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March 04 2019 22:28 GMT
#2429
I am lynching Sentinel if I get elected mayor The reason for this is his gambit at the beginning of the day. It's a policy lynch but there's more to it. We can throw out the window all scenarios where Sentinel is town, reads the role pm and decides to pull this shit anyway. To me there's only 3 realistic options.
Now the first option is the option he has pushed himself. The reason I put a question mark to that option is I don't believe his change of heart to read the role PM could have been that genuine. I was a dick to him, I basically bullied him into doing as I said. The chance that he just accepted it and did as told is extremely low. Especially after his initial defiance: On March 03 2019 11:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Show nested quote + On March 03 2019 11:34 Palmar wrote: On March 03 2019 11:32 LightningStrike wrote: Sent is policy at best I wont lynch him unless there is no better option honestly. There is literally no better option on day 1 than policy. Those are the best lynches on day 1 because you get rid of trash on a day with no information. Getting rid of trash on a day with no information = no further information besides whether or not said trash was scum or town I'm not reading my PM, pile those votes on There is no way this guy, cocky as he is, just turns around under the slightest pressure (I wasn't leading the vote by a lot) and claims his role. No way, I don't believe his story for a second. So, we're left with two reasonable options, the 2nd and the 3rd one. Both make him an excellent, excellent lynch. We've already gone over how not reading your role PM is anti town, but I genuinely believe the 2nd one is the truth, and we have a chance to kill scum. | ||
Palmar
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March 04 2019 22:29 GMT
#2431
On March 05 2019 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Ftr sorry HF i think i overreacted and i dont think youre mafia. But i dont like stuff that is not true on me. Also i always talk through people when i think they are mafia or id i think the conversation wont help either party. I didnt overreact on rsoultin. Regardless of what i say she wont change her read because her read is not based on not what i actually write, and i read her town, so no discussion is going to be productive. Or she is mafia, but i dont believe it. rsoultin may be mafia. Depends on what you think of LS, really. Maybe it's me who's got an outdated view of LS, but I actually thought he was genuinely frustrated. However rsoultin seems to have taken an oppsite stance. | ||
Palmar
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March 04 2019 22:33 GMT
#2437
On March 05 2019 07:31 sicklucker wrote: honestly if I was mafia with ls i would just go look at his own anger posts copy and paste it in scum qt and tell him to post that in thread. but thats just me im a psychopath. Honestly i dont even know why ls got mad he was heavyly town read the part of the game i read... He gets mad over everything though | ||
Palmar
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March 04 2019 22:34 GMT
#2439
On March 05 2019 07:34 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On March 05 2019 07:29 Palmar wrote: On March 05 2019 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Ftr sorry HF i think i overreacted and i dont think youre mafia. But i dont like stuff that is not true on me. Also i always talk through people when i think they are mafia or id i think the conversation wont help either party. I didnt overreact on rsoultin. Regardless of what i say she wont change her read because her read is not based on not what i actually write, and i read her town, so no discussion is going to be productive. Or she is mafia, but i dont believe it. rsoultin may be mafia. Depends on what you think of LS, really. Maybe it's me who's got an outdated view of LS, but I actually thought he was genuinely frustrated. However rsoultin seems to have taken an oppsite stance. The fact that you're basing your entire read on me off of how I read LS is definitely one of the negative points against you, though it's by far not one of the biggest ones. yeah but you're a dumbass so that's ok. | ||
Palmar
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March 04 2019 22:35 GMT
#2440
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Palmar
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March 04 2019 22:36 GMT
#2443
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Palmar
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March 04 2019 22:41 GMT
#2445
iamperfection Damdred Vivax WaveofShadow Town lean: Lightningstrike Acrofales rayn ExO_ Pandain Mocsta Koshi Ace rsoultin Oatsmaster Jockmcplop People who I just don't want to try to figure out sicklucker slam Chezinu No information (vig territory): Onegu Blazinghand Rels People I haven't read yet but may be scummy because boring MZ tubesock Trfel Scum lean: Holyflare Fecalfeast darthfoley Conversion Tictock Tumblewood Grackaroni Scum read: Sentinel BloodyC0bbler Mr. wiggles Pretty clear I'm leaning scum/vig on too may people. Upgraded rsoultin just now because I felt like it. | ||
Palmar
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March 04 2019 22:42 GMT
#2446
On March 05 2019 07:36 Jockmcplop wrote: I've been keeping up but not posting. Shouldn't trfel be here defending himself if he's scum instead of that 'take it or leave it' bullshit? depends, technically the best strategy for scum is to just shut up and give no further information, but that's only if you don't think you can talk your way out of the noose. Problem is townies do that shit all the time anyway. | ||
Palmar
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March 04 2019 22:44 GMT
#2448
Do you think HF is mafia? | ||
Palmar
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March 04 2019 22:59 GMT
#2456
On March 05 2019 07:55 Holyflare wrote: Everyone voting Palmar for mayor, I want a single sentence on why you are voting for him. I'm fine with this. I'm voting me because of my dashing looks | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:00 GMT
#2458
On March 05 2019 07:28 Palmar wrote: Just so we're clear: I am lynching Sentinel if I get elected mayor The reason for this is his gambit at the beginning of the day. It's a policy lynch but there's more to it. We can throw out the window all scenarios where Sentinel is town, reads the role pm and decides to pull this shit anyway. To me there's only 3 realistic options.
Now the first option is the option he has pushed himself. The reason I put a question mark to that option is I don't believe his change of heart to read the role PM could have been that genuine. I was a dick to him, I basically bullied him into doing as I said. The chance that he just accepted it and did as told is extremely low. Especially after his initial defiance: Show nested quote + On March 03 2019 11:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 03 2019 11:34 Palmar wrote: On March 03 2019 11:32 LightningStrike wrote: Sent is policy at best I wont lynch him unless there is no better option honestly. There is literally no better option on day 1 than policy. Those are the best lynches on day 1 because you get rid of trash on a day with no information. Getting rid of trash on a day with no information = no further information besides whether or not said trash was scum or town I'm not reading my PM, pile those votes on There is no way this guy, cocky as he is, just turns around under the slightest pressure (I wasn't leading the vote by a lot) and claims his role. No way, I don't believe his story for a second. So, we're left with two reasonable options, the 2nd and the 3rd one. Both make him an excellent, excellent lynch. We've already gone over how not reading your role PM is anti town, but I genuinely believe the 2nd one is the truth, and we have a chance to kill scum. | ||
Palmar
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March 04 2019 23:01 GMT
#2460
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Palmar
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March 04 2019 23:02 GMT
#2463
On March 05 2019 08:01 Holyflare wrote: You're currently getting mayored Palmar. If you were to switch your allegiance to me we could work something out. Haha | ||
Palmar
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March 04 2019 23:02 GMT
#2464
On March 05 2019 08:02 Holyflare wrote: I'm making a list post but there's too many of you and it's fucking boring. Just copy mine | ||
Palmar
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March 04 2019 23:04 GMT
#2469
On March 05 2019 08:04 Acrofales wrote: Okay. Filtered mocsta. He doesn't look as bad as I thought he did at all. But the exchange with Palmar definitely was mocsta overreacting. I didn't read that as Palmar shutting him down. I read it as mocsta overreacting to Palmar poking him a bit for some reads/reaction. They could easily both be town from that exchange. Koshi, stop being so exciteable. clever girl | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:08 GMT
#2473
I'd rather kill BH at the moment, but have no strong opnions on either. I think we should kill Wiggles or BC or Sentinel, that'd be just the best. | ||
Palmar
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March 04 2019 23:17 GMT
#2489
Let's play: Bad or scum? Tubesock: No idea, have read almost nothing he's posted which is often a scumtell (I find mafia player uninteresting very often). Holyflare: I actually think town. Just really bad. I still am suspicious because my brain keeps telling me HF is good at this game, but evidence suggests otherwise. rsoultin: Almost certainly bad. Ace: Probably bad because his posting hasn't been shit, but could be long scum. Gonna go with bad for now Mr. Wiggles: Scum, his filter is shit and he never says anything of value BloodyC0bbler: Probably scum, not as strong as Wiggles or Sentinel but very scummy Jockmcplop: Probably bad. Mocsta: Bad [UoN]Sentinel: Obvious mafia, small chance of very selifsh anti-town 3p, but almost certainly mafia Pandain: I'm guessing bad, but like tubesock I have very little opinion. I liked 1 mechanics post but that's really about it LightningStrike: Bad raynpelikoneet: Probably bad, he always thinks I'm mafia for some reason sicklucker: Probably bad, but I can never tell with sicklucker. He's not lying that no scum ever nightkills him because he usually helps mafia more than town when he's town | ||
Palmar
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March 04 2019 23:18 GMT
#2492
On March 05 2019 08:15 Holyflare wrote: It's easy to get bamboozled by Palmar and I don't blame you. I'm so good my town game bamboozles you. | ||
Palmar
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March 04 2019 23:20 GMT
#2497
On March 05 2019 08:19 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On March 05 2019 08:17 Palmar wrote: There's a bunch of people voting to lynch me, so it's time to pull a great game out of the hat: Let's play: Bad or scum? Tubesock: No idea, have read almost nothing he's posted which is often a scumtell (I find mafia player uninteresting very often). Holyflare: I actually think town. Just really bad. I still am suspicious because my brain keeps telling me HF is good at this game, but evidence suggests otherwise. rsoultin: Almost certainly bad. Ace: Probably bad because his posting hasn't been shit, but could be long scum. Gonna go with bad for now Mr. Wiggles: Scum, his filter is shit and he never says anything of value BloodyC0bbler: Probably scum, not as strong as Wiggles or Sentinel but very scummy Jockmcplop: Probably bad. Mocsta: Bad [UoN]Sentinel: Obvious mafia, small chance of very selifsh anti-town 3p, but almost certainly mafia Pandain: I'm guessing bad, but like tubesock I have very little opinion. I liked 1 mechanics post but that's really about it LightningStrike: Bad raynpelikoneet: Probably bad, he always thinks I'm mafia for some reason sicklucker: Probably bad, but I can never tell with sicklucker. He's not lying that no scum ever nightkills him because he usually helps mafia more than town when he's town You achieve nothing with this floundering old man. Mostly for my own amusement. Town should 100% kill you if you lynch me though. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:21 GMT
#2500
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Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:23 GMT
#2505
On March 05 2019 08:21 iamperfection wrote: Show nested quote + On March 05 2019 08:20 Vivax wrote: On March 05 2019 08:19 iamperfection wrote: On March 05 2019 08:17 Vivax wrote: Not this super obvious chickening out cause you overreacted and called BHs lynch more than a plynch and now feel forced to kill him if you don't want to lose your credibility. Blazinghand has claim scum i dont understand how you cant see it. He comes to the thread has says he hasn't read conveniently votes palmar who didnt come into the thread into like page 40 for mayor and gives no scum read and when i blow up him votes me who is already obviously town and would be even more so with him flipping red. Great, so why do you prefer the guy who's gonna kill Palmar over yourself who's gonna kill BH? just vote for bh and we can kill both On March 05 2019 08:10 iamperfection wrote: ##Unmayor me ##Mayor holyflare [/QUOTE] [/img]https://i.imgur.com/x0B3dZ4.gif[/img] | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:23 GMT
#2506
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Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:24 GMT
#2509
On March 05 2019 08:23 Acrofales wrote: Show nested quote + On March 05 2019 08:20 Acrofales wrote: On March 05 2019 08:16 Koshi wrote: Lynch Tfrel, Mayor vig BH. Want to be mayor? Do we have time to pull this off? I think we might. Too many people AFK I think. I'm not giving iamp mayor, rather give it to HF. I could do koshi, but honestly, Sentinel has fallen off the face of the earth. Why are people not into murdering him? | ||
Palmar
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March 04 2019 23:27 GMT
#2517
On March 05 2019 08:25 iamperfection wrote: Show nested quote + On March 05 2019 08:24 Palmar wrote: On March 05 2019 08:23 Acrofales wrote: On March 05 2019 08:20 Acrofales wrote: On March 05 2019 08:16 Koshi wrote: Lynch Tfrel, Mayor vig BH. Want to be mayor? Do we have time to pull this off? I think we might. Too many people AFK I think. I'm not giving iamp mayor, rather give it to HF. I could do koshi, but honestly, Sentinel has fallen off the face of the earth. Why are people not into murdering him? how would YOU rather give it to HF? Because I feel like it. I'm perfectly fine with going out of the game, I've already been more useful than most players will be in 5 days to be fair. You decided to vote against your own mayor wagon, which I hate, also, it's just another vote to lynch me so fuck it. | ||
Palmar
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March 04 2019 23:28 GMT
#2521
On March 05 2019 08:26 Acrofales wrote: Show nested quote + On March 05 2019 08:24 Palmar wrote: On March 05 2019 08:23 Acrofales wrote: On March 05 2019 08:20 Acrofales wrote: On March 05 2019 08:16 Koshi wrote: Lynch Tfrel, Mayor vig BH. Want to be mayor? Do we have time to pull this off? I think we might. Too many people AFK I think. I'm not giving iamp mayor, rather give it to HF. I could do koshi, but honestly, Sentinel has fallen off the face of the earth. Why are people not into murdering him? WTF? Are you martyring? HF is gonna kill you if he gets mayor... No, I WANT THE MAYOR. I never martyr, even if I was mafia I would never martyr. I still think there's like a 20% chance HF is playing some long con bullshit and will not actually lynch me. Like there's a tiny chance he's actually good enough to townread me right now, and just be doing this to troll etc. I actually like that chance better than I like iamp as mayor right now. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:33 GMT
#2536
On March 05 2019 08:31 Vivax wrote: It's great that Conversion is feeling better now, that means I can go back to voting for him instead with a clean conscience. To be fair they just need more communism. If I got fired it'd be 6 months of full time pay as severance. Thanks unions! | ||
Palmar
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March 04 2019 23:35 GMT
#2541
On March 05 2019 08:33 Holyflare wrote: Well the Palmar vote is locked in, no time for abandoning now. The best we can hope for is that Palmar acknowledges me as his superior and votes me as mayor. I'm not saying I'm Jesus but I am yall's saviour and will die for your sins. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:37 GMT
#2545
On March 05 2019 08:36 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On March 05 2019 08:31 Trfel wrote: On March 05 2019 08:29 Holyflare wrote: I had an appointment I left for. I came back and I'm skipping dinner and I'm skipping hanging out with a friend to play this game and try and survive. I can't skip my commitments to play mafia, I was already late because I was playing mafia too long, it literally would not have been possible for me to play more and still make my appointment.On March 05 2019 08:28 Holyflare wrote: On March 05 2019 08:27 iamperfection wrote: holy go vote for blazinghand I'm the first vote on blazinghand. I still think he should be the lynch over trfel. Trfel seems very innocent here. Although I do note the convenient timing of his return... Sorry for prioritizing real life and my personal well-being over a game. I also don't actually know why you're up for lynch other than a minimal amount of things in your filter and people circle jerking into it. Well at least we townbros are killing BH together. Although let's kill Wiggles instead, that'd be fun. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:40 GMT
#2557
On March 05 2019 08:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote: So. HF get the fuck off Palmar. You may hate his fucking guts / think hes the worlds shittiest player but the guy is clearly attempting to help the town at this point and has done far more to push that then most in this game. *casually keeps his mayor vote on HF* Great speech mate. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:41 GMT
#2561
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Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:46 GMT
#2582
On March 05 2019 08:44 Grackaroni wrote: HOLYFLARE/PALMAR WHAT IS YOUR CURRENT MAYOR POLICY? On March 05 2019 07:28 Palmar wrote: Just so we're clear: I am lynching Sentinel if I get elected mayor The reason for this is his gambit at the beginning of the day. It's a policy lynch but there's more to it. We can throw out the window all scenarios where Sentinel is town, reads the role pm and decides to pull this shit anyway. To me there's only 3 realistic options.
Now the first option is the option he has pushed himself. The reason I put a question mark to that option is I don't believe his change of heart to read the role PM could have been that genuine. I was a dick to him, I basically bullied him into doing as I said. The chance that he just accepted it and did as told is extremely low. Especially after his initial defiance: Show nested quote + On March 03 2019 11:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: On March 03 2019 11:34 Palmar wrote: On March 03 2019 11:32 LightningStrike wrote: Sent is policy at best I wont lynch him unless there is no better option honestly. There is literally no better option on day 1 than policy. Those are the best lynches on day 1 because you get rid of trash on a day with no information. Getting rid of trash on a day with no information = no further information besides whether or not said trash was scum or town I'm not reading my PM, pile those votes on There is no way this guy, cocky as he is, just turns around under the slightest pressure (I wasn't leading the vote by a lot) and claims his role. No way, I don't believe his story for a second. So, we're left with two reasonable options, the 2nd and the 3rd one. Both make him an excellent, excellent lynch. We've already gone over how not reading your role PM is anti town, but I genuinely believe the 2nd one is the truth, and we have a chance to kill scum. I 100% believe this to be the truth and I'm not changing my mind. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:47 GMT
#2585
On March 05 2019 08:41 Palmar wrote: Wiggles is mafia | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:48 GMT
#2593
On March 05 2019 08:46 ExO_ wrote: I don't like a lot of the people voting BH though. HM Explain why you think I'm mafia please. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:50 GMT
#2608
Palmar's last minute thoughts www.palmarthoughts.gov.www\palmarthoughts
Man yall are gonna miss my formatting, it's just the best | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:51 GMT
#2614
Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:51 GMT
#2616
On March 05 2019 08:51 Grackaroni wrote: Show nested quote + On March 05 2019 08:49 Ace wrote: On March 05 2019 08:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Wait. I go to fucking work then sleep and come back to this clusterfuck? Why for the love of god are we lynching Palmar of all fucking people. You may hate his fucking guts right now but of all the "vet" or big name players in this game hes actually put in more effort than anyone fucking else. Do you disagree with his reads? Likely. Do I? On some of them yes. But the guy is clearly playing for the town. Have any of you guys played with him? or remember games with him? He does this shit consistently with town. He polarizes everyone in the game for or against him to get reads / generate discussion. Sometimes it may just be because hes being an asshole or believes hes better than you. So no I am not down for lynching him -_- If you were going to off an old school player at this point just to do it you'd be better served with offing Me, Ace, BH, or MZ tbh. We all have done basically nothing in comparison. We as an entire group have literally designed a day that lets mafia just slide by and do sweet fuck all and based on thread sentiment could get away with it for way way way too long. Sure you could after the fact try and harass suspects for reasons but basically everyone can regurgitate the same horseshit and you get borderline nothing. So. HF get the fuck off Palmar. You may hate his fucking guts / think hes the worlds shittiest player but the guy is clearly attempting to help the town at this point and has done far more to push that then most in this game. How about instead we look into this pool. Onegu Why? 1) Says he will be try hard. Is clearly not thus is not living up to what he said he would attempt. 2) Reads currently given have no substance to them 3) Clearly skirting by the activity requirements 4) Basically just has posts with 0 content Iamperfection I have already brought him up in my last analysis post. Basically it is very similar however to expand on it. On March 04 2019 05:40 iamperfection wrote: On March 04 2019 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote: My response is more or less going to be impacted by your response to my question. i probably wont give my full reads until tomorrow. i think your probably town though cause i think your confused by my play and are trying to figure out my alignment Since I have been waiting now for awhile to see what reads he has. Let me sum it up for you. He hasn't posted any of value. Why? Because he hasnt posted any reasonable reasons. He has also asked for what? 3 vig shots now on players Someone like this whos played as long as he had know better. This isn't behaviour IMO of a townie. Its scum. This post reeks. Why would you pop up near EOD to post this? You even segregated players and faked outrage. Heavy FoS here. +1 to this. This looks very similar to a fake-outrage scum post that I've seen BC make before. He did clear me though | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:52 GMT
#2622
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Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:52 GMT
#2624
On March 05 2019 08:51 iamperfection wrote: Show nested quote + On March 05 2019 08:51 Palmar wrote: Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia your wifom mind bomb wont work im going to ignore it. Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:53 GMT
#2631
On March 05 2019 08:50 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + Huh. To be honest I couldn't tell you. I guess never mind me then, I'm still not really convinced he's mafia but I couldn't (and wouldn't) stop anyone who said otherwise.On March 05 2019 08:45 Holyflare wrote: On March 05 2019 08:42 Trfel wrote: On March 05 2019 08:37 Koshi wrote: Show me the disconnects, that's simply not true. I already explained the two disconnects that exist. If you show me more I can explain them too, nothing even has merit except for those two.On March 05 2019 08:32 Trfel wrote: STILL NO ONE HAS SAID A SINGLE THING TO ME NOT ONE EXPLANATION OF WHY I AM MAFIA NOT ONE QUESTION NOTHING Do you realize what is happening? If I'm lynched, fine, whatever, but someone acknowledge my existence please! I think you are mafia and I told you why. Disconnect in every other post you made. That is enough. @Holyflare, I'd take another look at Fecalfeast and Mocsta. Mocsta's play felt honest and genuine to me, admittedly he hasn't done much but I don't think that's mafia indicative. I know that Fecalfeast enjoys playing scum (heck he has one of the highest mafia winrates on the site) and he's relaxed and carefree as mafia, IIRC he's more relaxed and carefree and fun-loving as mafia than town. As mafia he plays to exist and survive, not to push stuff, and that's exactly what he is doing here. Otherwise, just please don't start a big fight between you and raynnpelikoneet or anyone else that causes massive tunnels. Can you explain the mocsta progression on Palmar then? How can he go from so rage-y and agreeing with my posts against Palmar to suddenly voting Conversion with palmar and agreeing like nothing had happened? You and Exo You guys need to explain your scumread on me | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:54 GMT
#2634
On March 05 2019 08:53 iamperfection wrote: i love you palmar When at first it don't work, just keep doing the same thing till it works. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:56 GMT
#2647
On March 05 2019 08:54 ExO_ wrote: Show nested quote + On March 05 2019 08:52 Palmar wrote: ExO_ you still haven't explained your 100% scumread on me? Show nested quote + On March 04 2019 16:30 ExO_ wrote: On March 03 2019 20:12 Palmar wrote: To be fair I mostly like Acro just for these two posts. They're the logical way to play the game. Kill the policy lynch, continue playing. On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote: Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1. On March 03 2019 17:11 Acrofales wrote: Oh, also, if sent was actually playing and being townie, I'd be more inclined to want him to live. But he has used this "foil" to be an attention whore and cop out of doing anything else so far. Not town play. @Palmar, let's assume Acro is the leading lynch candidate but your vote could choose somebody else to lynch. Who would you lynch instead of Acro, that isn't Sent? Palmar's entire post history seems to be super focused on this policy lynch of Sent -- that's it. Town Reads HF, Town Reads Acro. He's not wanting to scum hunt on day 1, but go all in on a policy lynch. I don't think I mind having a strong conviction about the policy lynch, but I think I do mind only green reading other people and only pushing your one policy lynch. I think Palmar is scum. haha, and this opinion hasn't changed at all ? I literally have the best explained list of reads of everyone in the thread. I'm dying for everyone else's sins, you keep yours buddy. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:56 GMT
#2651
On March 05 2019 08:55 Trfel wrote: Show nested quote + But I don't have a scumread on you?On March 05 2019 08:53 Palmar wrote: On March 05 2019 08:50 Trfel wrote: On March 05 2019 08:45 Holyflare wrote: Huh. To be honest I couldn't tell you. I guess never mind me then, I'm still not really convinced he's mafia but I couldn't (and wouldn't) stop anyone who said otherwise.On March 05 2019 08:42 Trfel wrote: On March 05 2019 08:37 Koshi wrote: Show me the disconnects, that's simply not true. I already explained the two disconnects that exist. If you show me more I can explain them too, nothing even has merit except for those two.On March 05 2019 08:32 Trfel wrote: STILL NO ONE HAS SAID A SINGLE THING TO ME NOT ONE EXPLANATION OF WHY I AM MAFIA NOT ONE QUESTION NOTHING Do you realize what is happening? If I'm lynched, fine, whatever, but someone acknowledge my existence please! I think you are mafia and I told you why. Disconnect in every other post you made. That is enough. @Holyflare, I'd take another look at Fecalfeast and Mocsta. Mocsta's play felt honest and genuine to me, admittedly he hasn't done much but I don't think that's mafia indicative. I know that Fecalfeast enjoys playing scum (heck he has one of the highest mafia winrates on the site) and he's relaxed and carefree as mafia, IIRC he's more relaxed and carefree and fun-loving as mafia than town. As mafia he plays to exist and survive, not to push stuff, and that's exactly what he is doing here. Otherwise, just please don't start a big fight between you and raynnpelikoneet or anyone else that causes massive tunnels. Can you explain the mocsta progression on Palmar then? How can he go from so rage-y and agreeing with my posts against Palmar to suddenly voting Conversion with palmar and agreeing like nothing had happened? You and Exo You guys need to explain your scumread on me I'm just trusting Holyflare. The whole saving me thing and all. Why are you voting to lynch me then? | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:57 GMT
#2656
I don't really think Trfel is mafia. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:58 GMT
#2664
Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia Wiggles is mafia So is BC probably, he wasn't actually trying to save me, just trying to look good. Or he would actually do shit. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 04 2019 23:59 GMT
#2674
After all these years, yall still suck | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 18 2019 08:53 GMT
#9031
gg wp mafia, adapting to the game at hand is key, and you did that very, very well. It was a lot of fun guys. Please stop randomly killing me ok? | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 18 2019 12:41 GMT
#9033
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Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 18 2019 13:35 GMT
#9035
On March 18 2019 22:03 Mocsta wrote: Sigh Palmar u converted me Imma policy day1 lyncher from now on Just gotta find somewhere else to play lol The best reason for policy lynching is that we're all trash at mafia so our chances of finding one on day 1 are next to none. BH's random lynch strategy is actually kinda viable, but it's still much worse than policy lynching. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22590 Posts
March 22 2019 16:05 GMT
#9059
On March 18 2019 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On March 18 2019 02:53 darthfoley wrote: On March 18 2019 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: Jock played ok, all other mafia were just random shit not wanting to kill themselves. Well done Jock. lol don't be a sore loser nah i am not, i just cant deal with games where mafia makes more posts 1hr into post game than all real game. I call them no-games because they are no games. rayn pissed off that mafia played like mafia and he didn't think mafia would play like mafia. Also, only the best voted mafia on day 1... Palmar and Chez. Greatest detectives in history. | ||
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