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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 07 2018 09:19 GMT
#502
On February 07 2018 18:00 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 17:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So uh oh.... is Damdred town or mafia?


I read him on emotion and tone...usually related to how he's being pushed. I'd say a bit of a scumlean, though. Even ignoring that he's wrong on me, which is unusual but not impossible, going back through ritoky's filter he's actually been super fluid in his reads and poking in a lot of places. Unless I'm wrong on ritoky, which I actually used to be quite frequently, it bugs me that Ian is scumreading him.

I'd like a more thorough description of why.

Although maybe the easiest way to read him is to just vote him and see how he reacts, lol


I also don't get how we got to ritoky while talking about damdred. You've been pointing out ritoky posts you've hated all game so what reads are 'fluid"???
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 07 2018 09:22 GMT
#506
ALSO if ritoky found out that koshi calls him mafia as mafia a lot but not as town and only just discovered that then why isn't he now attributing being scum read as mafia koshi?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 07 2018 09:24 GMT
#510
On February 07 2018 18:23 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 18:19 Holyflare wrote:
On February 07 2018 18:00 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 17:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So uh oh.... is Damdred town or mafia?


I read him on emotion and tone...usually related to how he's being pushed. I'd say a bit of a scumlean, though. Even ignoring that he's wrong on me, which is unusual but not impossible, going back through ritoky's filter he's actually been super fluid in his reads and poking in a lot of places. Unless I'm wrong on ritoky, which I actually used to be quite frequently, it bugs me that Ian is scumreading him.

I'd like a more thorough description of why.

Although maybe the easiest way to read him is to just vote him and see how he reacts, lol


I also don't get how we got to ritoky while talking about damdred. You've been pointing out ritoky posts you've hated all game so what reads are 'fluid"???


Not the reads themselves, the overall picture of the game, Joni. I was dubious about him not actively pushing the one scummy read he seemed to have. His explanations were reasonable if unverifiable. I'm allowed to change my mind after rereading his filter (and a bit before, obv, given I unvoted him) -flicks-


What is fluid about his view of the game???
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 07 2018 12:33 GMT
#632
On February 07 2018 20:07 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game.


I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read.


Regarding mderg, I've made a few posts already about how disconnected he is in the game. It's actually one of the biggest question marks I have on rayn and HF. For so long they railed on me for "not being involved in the game" while seemingly ignoring mderg who has been around to post but hasn't.

This reason especially comes off as a bad reason to townread Mocsta. I think you could Town read Mocsta for a few reasons that I could buy as genuine beliefs, but I have not thought to myself, "you know what, Mocsta really knows where he's going this game." It almost feels like a TMI spew town read if mderg flips mafia


I think it's more that I don't remember anything mderg has posted and that resonated with how I felt about him last game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 07 2018 12:54 GMT
#639
On February 07 2018 21:50 rsoultin wrote:
-snorts- I don't know why I ever thought Conversion looked scummy. I'm stupid apparently. Probably more liking where truffle was coming from and not thinking about Conversion's alignment clearly.

There's still the claiming to be caught up but not and slight contradictions, but I don't think that's very alignment indicative in this case. It's kind of bad but his case on me is probably the biggest thing that makes him more likely town in my eyes.

Not bothering with Rels.

Neither of these two should be lynched today.


The funny thing is that nobody understands why you even thought conversion was mafia to begin with because you didn't say a thing. So why did you find him scummy?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 07 2018 14:05 GMT
#678
I don't particularly understand but we vote martyrs in this here town.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 07 2018 17:21 GMT
#709
You can press back and get it back
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 07 2018 19:33 GMT
#779
On February 08 2018 04:29 darthfoley wrote:
Current thoughts are something like this

Town
Conversion
Koshi
Rayn
Ritoky

prplhz
Damdred
Rels
HF

Trfel
Mocsta
rsoultin/mderg
Mafia

Fine with mderg/rsoultin lynch. I will note how thread sentiment has kind of awkwardly turned away from rsoultin while people are simultaneously covering their asses saying they don't mind if she dies. I will also note how Mocsta has followed pretty much the same formula from last game with his treatment of rsoultin

I don't like that I can't remember a single thing HF said. Not a good sign


Mate you having a fucking laugh? Your biggest scum read is started by a wagon on reasoning I created. This is so bad. I also made a giant collection of where are rsoul conversion reads case??
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 07 2018 19:38 GMT
#789
On February 08 2018 04:33 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 04:29 darthfoley wrote:
Current thoughts are something like this

Town
Conversion
Koshi
Rayn
Ritoky

prplhz
Damdred
Rels
HF

Trfel
Mocsta
rsoultin/mderg
Mafia

Fine with mderg/rsoultin lynch. I will note how thread sentiment has kind of awkwardly turned away from rsoultin while people are simultaneously covering their asses saying they don't mind if she dies. I will also note how Mocsta has followed pretty much the same formula from last game with his treatment of rsoultin

I don't like that I can't remember a single thing HF said. Not a good sign


Mate you having a fucking laugh? Your biggest scum read is started by a wagon on reasoning I created. This is so bad. I also made a giant collection of where are rsoul conversion reads case??

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 07 2018 19:40 GMT
#794
I'll vote to save the talking people to kill the non talking people. Honestly haven't been able to catch up and read into mderg or prplhz though. Just finishing work
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 07 2018 19:42 GMT
#800
For the record my current vote means nothing.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 07 2018 19:43 GMT
#804
Df how can you say you don't remember anything I wrote when i started the wagon on your biggest scum read, made several cases on her and you also spent a while flaming me?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 07 2018 19:44 GMT
#805
http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia?page=20#383

??
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 07 2018 19:45 GMT
#808
On February 08 2018 04:42 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 15:56 Holyflare wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:50 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:45 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:38 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:28 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 07:14 darthfoley wrote:
I would just like to say that I shamelessly agree with thread sentiment that rsoultin pointing out the SK thing in the way that she did is scummy

i generally skip past rayn's post because he takes four paragraphs to explain what could be explained in two sentences. public service announcement
More importantly; considering the bolb, what do you make of the interaction between rsoultin and I?


I don't think either of you look particularly townie, but she looks scummy. I kind of skip past lots of your wall of text posts.

Fwiw I think conversion's intro sounded kind of forced but the way rsoultin called it out seemed scummy. Like something opportunistic mafia might latch onto to have "something."

Waiting for half the game to play. I don't really have any Town reads yet
i dont understand how you can brush off what im writing: when you state i am possibly scum; and the person I am writing about looks scummy.

I dont have a problem if you think my "wall of text" is simple; but I would appreciate if you can highlight why that is so.


1. Rsoultin latched onto something opportunistic
2. She got defensive and pissy with questions to answer questions when called out
3. She hasn't really started snooping/being cocky yet (game is very young so this isn't a truly fair point)


2 and 3 are good points. 1 is not.


lmao I made this post and you acknowledged it before you even touched rsoultin in your filter. Stop lying man


No wagon forms until I elaborated and posted about it. Which is again what rayn scum reads you for. You're trying to take credit for my push but you didn't push anything.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 07 2018 19:47 GMT
#813
"I scum read her first!" is also SUCH a bs retort to my question on why am I not town to you when I'm pushing and did in fact start the wagon on rsoul, your biggest scum read.

Saying you did it first means nothing. If I did push your scum read I should be much higher up your town list and more importantly your shade throwing at me shouldn't exist because all I've done is push your scum read!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 07 2018 19:50 GMT
#816
On February 08 2018 04:49 Damdred wrote:
so do you think he is scum hf?


I have all game boi :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 07 2018 19:51 GMT
#821
On February 08 2018 04:42 Holyflare wrote:
For the record my current vote means nothing.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 07 2018 19:52 GMT
#824
I don't care if mderg is town and getting lynched though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 07 2018 19:52 GMT
#825
I haven't read him.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 07 2018 19:53 GMT
#828
I don't need to consolidate on anything though. If I have to I'll save rsoul because she types words though.
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