• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:46
CET 20:46
KST 04:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros7[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win52025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION1Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams10Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest4
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four DreamHack Open 2013 revealed
Tourneys
2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Ladder Map Matchup Stats
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION
Strategy
How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Big Programming Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
KPDH "Golden" as Squid Game…
Peanutsc
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1827 users

Newbie Student Mafia XXVIII - Page 15

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 13 14 15 All
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 01:06 GMT
#2099
Yea
Mderg did a great job i thought
ISTP probably lol

I do hope people get something out of the monologues. What wont make complete sense is the BTDT kill. I will explain that one in a little mlre detail as contextually its a combination of thread, qt and pm
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 01:07 GMT
#2100
Also

Was there a way to convince JAT to vote koshi?
Was mderg a better choice... if so, why?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 01:35 GMT
#2103
QT /M122
"This game is fucked with the replacements

Both have been town newbies

Mafia deserve a hwads up. Changea everythinf.havent read game but considering givjng up"


QT /M126
read game
koshi is being absolutely useless at this stage so no real pressure

however, i dont want to play anymore.
as my top scum read, i have to go back-n-forth with him; and honestly, i dont have the energy.
sorry
shoot: mocsta / concede

Date: 1/30/18 07:10
shoot mocsta


Hence...this was posted just to start post-game chat lol....
On January 30 2018 08:18 Mocsta wrote:
I cant believe how obvious this game that mderg and rels and TWAT/JAT are



But then 30min later... (i.e. !10min from deadline)

QT /M128
changed my mind and will shoot: mderg

not sure yet if i will play the 48hrs, especially after making a couple dumb posts at end of night.

dunno why im shoting mderg either.

moreso, i really didnt appreciate guys takling about modkills from 4-5years ago. its not like koshi hasnt been modkileld before.
etierh way, i forgot about it and so found theg ame: GoT.. and one of the players was takling about how disappointed he was with my modkill because it took the wind out of his sails... a concede is not an outcome anyone will appreciate with this much time committed.

I wotn promise to fight koshi but will see where it goes.


Resulting in this:
Date: 1/30/18 07:47
sorry JAT
Date: 1/30/18 07:47
sorry mderg

tahts final.. my bad.
Date: 1/30/18 07:49
sorry i know i asid final

but shoot btdt

this is truly final


Epitomy of: #YOLO

However, now I had to live with this crap in my filter....
QT /M130
ahhh

i can use the BTDT kill as a trap for koshi

hes not caught up with the game,and should have shot JAT.. but the QT indicates BTDT is teh medic.

thats interesting WIFOM.. perhaps those dumb early-concede posts can come in handy.

thats literally it...


Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 03:20 GMT
#2114
Pinpoint on day1 is meaningless. No flips.

Its more important to convince others of your reads, than to have correct reads

You know this rayn..
##vote: rayn
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 04:04 GMT
#2115
https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/uuzmADnU7jCda
/m23 is a shame.

his reads were good. if only he shared the more.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 05:33 GMT
#2118
On February 04 2018 13:45 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2018 12:20 Mocsta wrote:
Pinpoint on day1 is meaningless. No flips.

Its more important to convince others of your reads, than to have correct reads

You know this rayn..
##vote: rayn


Convincing others of your reads when they're shit doesn't do anything but lose. Correct reads are always more important unless your primary goal is to just be an alpha.

Damdred called us out D1 and never really backed off of it, even in the obs QT iirc.

The optimal answer is a blend of the two.

Being right or being heard bkth dont lead to victory
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 05:45 GMT
#2119
And also..
Convincing others of reads is nothing to do with being an alpha

Yes they can intersect but it does not have to be a mutual relationship.

I think you are confusing convincing others with being loud.
Typically this is a maturity thing
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 08:52 GMT
#2121
HF.

Indulge me.
Regardless of whether you would final 3 with koshi and JAT.. thats the situation.

How would you go about the cycle as mafia.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 09:08 GMT
#2123
Indeed. Its interesting because both town and mafia need to be able to persuade a tunneled townie against their convictions.

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 09:09 GMT
#2124
Why didnyou vote me ?

You were suspicious all game
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 09:44 GMT
#2126
On February 04 2018 18:41 rsoultin wrote:
Yeah honestly I don't know. I think your last three would be tough to beat in almost any combo, but the one you picked was probably the least likely to work.
As per monologues lol, I was mostly concerned that mderg wouldnt be present for the 48hrs and then land an unpredictable last minute vote.

So true lesson is, I should have fought harder to avoid the Rels mislynch.
I needed Rels in the final 3.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 10:30 GMT
#2130
I still think biggest shame of this game is that the replacements were for new players.
Even more unfortunate is that it appears some left as they were not getting any enjoyment.

I do not know what the solution is; nor, what it could entail.

Is this the majority of what is left with TL-Mafia?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 10:40 GMT
#2134
personally I prefer not playing with (spammy) kids.
not because they arent capable of playing well, but because there is no fundamental understanding of the constraints a working person has to deal with.

Maybe I should get my mafia fix by reading old games instead! Less time-intensive at the very least.


Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 11:47 GMT
#2141
On February 04 2018 20:31 rsoultin wrote:
-pokes Mocsta- I want to see your townplay though :/
No idea what it is. I havent played since end of 2013.

I would have been classed as paranoid and overly convoluted back then. I hope that has evolved somewhat now.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 23:03 GMT
#2162
Good to know Rayn.

So what would you have done differently when placed in the final-3 situation of confirmed town JAT, and town-lean Koshi?
Prev 1 13 14 15 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 14m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 228
JuggernautJason87
MindelVK 30
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3091
Shuttle 652
Mini 280
Soulkey 131
NaDa 47
soO 42
Bonyth 23
Dota 2
XcaliburYe448
canceldota202
Counter-Strike
ScreaM1309
Foxcn400
byalli305
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor160
Liquid`Hasu132
Other Games
summit1g4969
tarik_tv1813
qojqva1602
Grubby1401
FrodaN1286
Beastyqt910
fl0m853
Hui .155
Liquid`VortiX146
ToD110
C9.Mang0108
Fuzer 92
Skadoodle62
Trikslyr49
ZombieGrub30
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1301
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 118
• HeavenSC 32
• Adnapsc2 25
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade986
Other Games
• imaqtpie1114
• Shiphtur233
• WagamamaTV201
• tFFMrPink 14
Upcoming Events
The PiG Daily
14m
herO vs Clem
Solar vs Clem
Zoun vs Spirit
Clem vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
3h 14m
Epic.LAN
16h 14m
BSL Team A[vengers]
18h 14m
Dewalt vs Shine
UltrA vs ZeLoT
LAN Event
18h 14m
BSL 21
23h 14m
BSL Team A[vengers]
1d 18h
Cross vs Motive
Sziky vs HiyA
LAN Event
1d 19h
BSL 21
1d 23h
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
WardiTV TLMC #15
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.