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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 01:06 GMT
#2099
Yea
Mderg did a great job i thought
ISTP probably lol

I do hope people get something out of the monologues. What wont make complete sense is the BTDT kill. I will explain that one in a little mlre detail as contextually its a combination of thread, qt and pm
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 01:07 GMT
#2100
Also

Was there a way to convince JAT to vote koshi?
Was mderg a better choice... if so, why?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 01:35 GMT
#2103
QT /M122
"This game is fucked with the replacements

Both have been town newbies

Mafia deserve a hwads up. Changea everythinf.havent read game but considering givjng up"


QT /M126
read game
koshi is being absolutely useless at this stage so no real pressure

however, i dont want to play anymore.
as my top scum read, i have to go back-n-forth with him; and honestly, i dont have the energy.
sorry
shoot: mocsta / concede

Date: 1/30/18 07:10
shoot mocsta


Hence...this was posted just to start post-game chat lol....
On January 30 2018 08:18 Mocsta wrote:
I cant believe how obvious this game that mderg and rels and TWAT/JAT are



But then 30min later... (i.e. !10min from deadline)

QT /M128
changed my mind and will shoot: mderg

not sure yet if i will play the 48hrs, especially after making a couple dumb posts at end of night.

dunno why im shoting mderg either.

moreso, i really didnt appreciate guys takling about modkills from 4-5years ago. its not like koshi hasnt been modkileld before.
etierh way, i forgot about it and so found theg ame: GoT.. and one of the players was takling about how disappointed he was with my modkill because it took the wind out of his sails... a concede is not an outcome anyone will appreciate with this much time committed.

I wotn promise to fight koshi but will see where it goes.


Resulting in this:
Date: 1/30/18 07:47
sorry JAT
Date: 1/30/18 07:47
sorry mderg

tahts final.. my bad.
Date: 1/30/18 07:49
sorry i know i asid final

but shoot btdt

this is truly final


Epitomy of: #YOLO

However, now I had to live with this crap in my filter....
QT /M130
ahhh

i can use the BTDT kill as a trap for koshi

hes not caught up with the game,and should have shot JAT.. but the QT indicates BTDT is teh medic.

thats interesting WIFOM.. perhaps those dumb early-concede posts can come in handy.

thats literally it...


Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 03:20 GMT
#2114
Pinpoint on day1 is meaningless. No flips.

Its more important to convince others of your reads, than to have correct reads

You know this rayn..
##vote: rayn
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 04:04 GMT
#2115
https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/uuzmADnU7jCda
/m23 is a shame.

his reads were good. if only he shared the more.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 05:33 GMT
#2118
On February 04 2018 13:45 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2018 12:20 Mocsta wrote:
Pinpoint on day1 is meaningless. No flips.

Its more important to convince others of your reads, than to have correct reads

You know this rayn..
##vote: rayn


Convincing others of your reads when they're shit doesn't do anything but lose. Correct reads are always more important unless your primary goal is to just be an alpha.

Damdred called us out D1 and never really backed off of it, even in the obs QT iirc.

The optimal answer is a blend of the two.

Being right or being heard bkth dont lead to victory
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 05:45 GMT
#2119
And also..
Convincing others of reads is nothing to do with being an alpha

Yes they can intersect but it does not have to be a mutual relationship.

I think you are confusing convincing others with being loud.
Typically this is a maturity thing
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 08:52 GMT
#2121
HF.

Indulge me.
Regardless of whether you would final 3 with koshi and JAT.. thats the situation.

How would you go about the cycle as mafia.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 09:08 GMT
#2123
Indeed. Its interesting because both town and mafia need to be able to persuade a tunneled townie against their convictions.

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 09:09 GMT
#2124
Why didnyou vote me ?

You were suspicious all game
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 09:44 GMT
#2126
On February 04 2018 18:41 rsoultin wrote:
Yeah honestly I don't know. I think your last three would be tough to beat in almost any combo, but the one you picked was probably the least likely to work.
As per monologues lol, I was mostly concerned that mderg wouldnt be present for the 48hrs and then land an unpredictable last minute vote.

So true lesson is, I should have fought harder to avoid the Rels mislynch.
I needed Rels in the final 3.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 10:30 GMT
#2130
I still think biggest shame of this game is that the replacements were for new players.
Even more unfortunate is that it appears some left as they were not getting any enjoyment.

I do not know what the solution is; nor, what it could entail.

Is this the majority of what is left with TL-Mafia?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 10:40 GMT
#2134
personally I prefer not playing with (spammy) kids.
not because they arent capable of playing well, but because there is no fundamental understanding of the constraints a working person has to deal with.

Maybe I should get my mafia fix by reading old games instead! Less time-intensive at the very least.


Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 11:47 GMT
#2141
On February 04 2018 20:31 rsoultin wrote:
-pokes Mocsta- I want to see your townplay though :/
No idea what it is. I havent played since end of 2013.

I would have been classed as paranoid and overly convoluted back then. I hope that has evolved somewhat now.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 04 2018 23:03 GMT
#2162
Good to know Rayn.

So what would you have done differently when placed in the final-3 situation of confirmed town JAT, and town-lean Koshi?
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