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On October 01 2017 00:28 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2017 00:18 Breshke wrote:
Vivax why should i not vote damerion and go to bed Cause there's a bunch of afk ppl and others who just as much say something while saying little who deserve to be lynched more and you should feel really bad if the D1 lynch was a first timer and turned out to be town. Don't see why anyone should put Dam at more than null atm. On one hand it feels like he posts a tad too much, on the other that's really what mafia needn't do in a low activity town.
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On October 02 2017 08:06 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2017 00:17 Breshke wrote:
I really dislike damerions read on grack about the alliance and peoples read on vivax when he said lynch two people and hopefully one is town else boring game. In both cases i feel posts are being misinterpreted (purposfully or not) so people can make weak reads. The vivax read was dropped so im going to assume it was more pressure than a genuine read. However i think it is scummy that damerion has written so much but said so little. I dont agree with the plan because i think telling the mafia who is going to be shot gives them information they shouldnt have. I dont think the plan makes him scum though i think he is scummy because all he has talked about is the plan and a grack read which is based off pump Why did we ever shoot this guy. He just gives us free town reads. Mafia is onegu/rayn. The real question is why did rayn make his vivax case talking about breshke but never mentioned onegu once? Who knows 
On September 29 2017 10:12 Onegu wrote:
Wow?
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On October 02 2017 08:08 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2017 08:06 Holyflare wrote:On October 01 2017 00:17 Breshke wrote:
I really dislike damerions read on grack about the alliance and peoples read on vivax when he said lynch two people and hopefully one is town else boring game. In both cases i feel posts are being misinterpreted (purposfully or not) so people can make weak reads. The vivax read was dropped so im going to assume it was more pressure than a genuine read. However i think it is scummy that damerion has written so much but said so little. I dont agree with the plan because i think telling the mafia who is going to be shot gives them information they shouldnt have. I dont think the plan makes him scum though i think he is scummy because all he has talked about is the plan and a grack read which is based off pump Why did we ever shoot this guy. He just gives us free town reads. Mafia is onegu/rayn. The real question is why did rayn make his vivax case talking about breshke but never mentioned onegu once? Who knows
Cause vivax doesn't mention onegu when saying why he likes Joshua. Cause koshi talked about breshke.
"Reads on seemingly null people like Breshke, and his read on HF feel right for town Koshi to make."
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On October 01 2017 06:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
I thought i had a couple hours
I think a lot of us did. Town included.
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On October 02 2017 12:27 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm still trashbagging around so I'm also gonna sheep rayn
There's a vote thread now right?
Yeah, best mafia plan ever!
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On October 03 2017 02:11 Fecalfeast wrote:Ok so i think damerion is town for basically the same reason everyone else does, I don't really agree that grack is the best lynch though. Vivax, now that I'm reading him, is probably town partially because Show nested quote +On October 01 2017 00:28 Vivax wrote:On October 01 2017 00:18 Breshke wrote:
Vivax why should i not vote damerion and go to bed Cause there's a bunch of afk ppl and others who just as much say something while saying little who deserve to be lynched more and you should feel really bad about the D1 lynch was a first timer and turned out to be town. Don't see why anyone should put Dam at more than null atm. On one hand it feels like he posts a tad too much, on the other that's really what mafia needn't do in a low activity town. This feels like he's genuinely interacting with breshke and there's no real reason to poopoo breshkes one scumread if they are both scum even if he's upset breshke isn't playing since all it does is make breshke look worse without actually busing him. Show nested quote +On October 02 2017 16:19 Vivax wrote:
Rayn can be pants on head town too.
Not so pants on head if I'm not mistaken and he's the vig for his mark my words post about Breshke, in which case I commend his shot. Vig could also be one of the dudes sheeping him. Dunno.
But pants on head for scumreading me. I know him for having a bias towards scumreading active townies and having a blind spot for low profile players when he's town. It's like within his town meta to pester at least one top town per game, a thing which was always practical for me when I was scum as it led to glorious mislynches when he was pestering the Palmars, the HFs, the Koshis. Usually starting D2 or D3.
I am quite open to the idea of him being town with a wrong read on me.
That would leave Chez to sort out among the dudes who were voting for me. And besides his vote on me and his initial lack of enthusiasm (which he says is cause of town atmosphere I think?) I really have no way to surefire tell his alignment. I didn't like his vote on me, that's for sure, but it's also all I can hold against him atm.
With that, I think I want to lynch into ppl who were playing similarly to breshke/afkers.
If boxerfred doesn't post more soon, I'm voting him.
If Onegu doesn't post more, him too.
Cause there's only so many vig bullets and I don't see any harm in lynching afks when I've got nothing better.
There's also some stuff about Damerion I would like to get off my chest: His posts somehow all look the same at this point and while it superficially looks good that he keeps giving input on many players, it also looks more like a routine he's working with than genuine thoughts, I also think his read on Grack doesn't look very dynamic and more like a mantra he keeps reciting. So I'm untownreading him. Dude could be mafia. This post also seems like vivax genuinely wants to solve the game. He goes in depth about why rayn could just be wrong rather than just calling him bad/scum and being done with it. Also, while the afks are generally low hanging fruit, asking for them to post more is generally pro town imo. Also the fact that he calls out damerions grack 'mantra' rather than just calling damerion town like everyone else (including me) it just makes me think even more that vivax is genuinely tryin to solve the game.
On October 03 2017 04:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh nobody. Oats also was calling to lynch koshi why does the kill point to grack only
On October 04 2017 04:33 Koshi wrote:
Chez rolled Chez.
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On October 03 2017 06:20 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2017 05:55 Damerion wrote:
If we fail to lynch Grackaroni or at least fail to listen to my reasons. We should pressure FecalFeast with votes and possibly a wagon of his own. I object.
Town did not.
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On October 04 2017 18:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:"I forgot when the deadline is".
I never knew when the deadline was. I R American! that means the deadline is before I get off of work. I thought I had more time as others. my posts prove this.
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oh, watcher just need to watch me to clear me! only why I dies is if mafia decides not to kill somebodies. win win
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On October 05 2017 04:14 Vivax wrote:
I'd like Chez to make a case for him being town.
Chez making a case... tough.
Well, you see. Chez has what you call red/blue blindness. He has also been afk a good bit because of a lack of access to the internet. Day ending during work week doesn't help. I ran out of mobile data a couple of days ago. I was hoping watcher would help today.. but he decided to die... how unconvention for me.
When Chez afks, people kill him. If I was mafia, I would care more about the game and post more. Be funny and not die. as town, I voted mostly to prevent from being mod killed. I pressure voted an afk and voted against someone who accused me instead of a friend who was Rel to me. So Rel that we were like one.
If I was mafia, I would have killed Vivax and Koshi to stop them from pushing me this whole game. All I got is rayn.
Let me relax a bit and then I'll read the game.
VE knows the Truth. But he isn't playing.
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Oats was a good kill for mafia, btw. I would have agreed with that. Mafia really understood how town saw Oats as obv town.
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Yeah.. I have a problem guys... I don't fear death in these games anymore... which makes me like Caller, which makes me seem mafia. When people make the weirdest connect the dots of misunderstanding to conclude an assumption, it is quite difficult to change that. Especially when the narrative is pushed so hard. You guys know King Solomon. He was a wise guy. He said you hear one side of the story and you think it is right until you hear the other side. You guys only got one side of me. So, let's be smart and wise.
State the reasons you think I are mafia and I'll reply. Please write it out freshly so I can easily address. DUE DILIGENCE is very important. Are you going to let a lazy towny cause a mislynch or are you gonna restate your reasons?
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On October 05 2017 07:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2017 07:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/4SWo5Wn.jpg) On October 01 2017 10:50 Chezinu wrote:On October 01 2017 09:42 Onegu wrote:
Oops I thought I still had one more day before deadline... My bad... As did I Show nested quote +On October 04 2017 18:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 01 2017 04:38 Chezinu wrote:
Oh wow, deadline is almost here.. "I forgot when the deadline is". Chezinu can you explain how you can make these posts?
You left out my post before when I was like the deadline is almost here!
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On October 05 2017 07:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Also what is this:
On August 15 2015 04:49 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2015 04:38 ruXxar wrote:On August 15 2015 04:36 Chezinu wrote:On August 15 2015 04:34 ruXxar wrote:On August 15 2015 04:32 Chezinu wrote:On August 15 2015 04:29 ruXxar wrote:On August 15 2015 04:27 Chezinu wrote:On August 15 2015 03:28 ruXxar wrote:
Like, trfel would or prpl would be he easy answr.
I think the key lies in who would possibly want to lunch VE, and only chez comes to kind because he tried to milk it for all it was worth when accused.
In private in convinced that Che. Is a normal person. Ofc he acts normal in scum qt.
With his experience and history in sure he wouldn't have any problem convincing mafia to vote for VE and then absolutely try to deny it by bringing up whatever meta he supposedly he has with VE. ...seriously? I HAVE NEVER PLAYED WITH THIS GUY BEFORE!! But he assumes to know me? and then not know me at the same time? So, I'm "normal" in a scum qt?? Where are you getting your information!??!?! Is this guy talking to someone about me somewhere else? Yo chez i asked you a 100 fucking times. 2 scum reads, no FUCKING PERSONA BULLSHiT. Can you do that for me pretty please? <3 I don't have to listen to mafia commands cause I'm a rebel! :p Chez I Admire you for staying in persona all this time. It takes a great deal of courage. But right now I need you to work with me. If you're town I'll save your fucking ass, I swear on it. Just cooperate ok? OOooooo, You want to work with me? YAY! I like the nice cop. better than the bad cop persona you have been portraying. Have you ever placed a gun up to an inanimate object and asked for answers? OH MY FUCKING GOD. English motherfucker, do you speak it? I don't quite understand.. I've been typing English for quite some time.. I will tries cause you asked. *cough* Chezinu typically plays this game for fun. He has lost the fear of dying a long time ago. This is what makes him exceptionally dangerous. You can force Chezinu to come up with reads or to make cases for that matter. Chezinu is a very intuitive player. He is a known blue sniper when he is mafia. When he is town he is known for his flawless Chezinu Rule and every once in a while his lovely lists of suspects. However, Chezinu has weaknesses. One being that Chezinu is red/blue blind. He often confuses red and blue roles. He has a knack for knowing who has a special role in the game. In this game setup, Chezinu was concerned about posting his reads in case the mafia used it against town with Hurricane kills. Currently, Chezinu has 3 blue reads who were at one point red reads. If Chez was mafia, he would be having a hay day finding all the blues in this game and posting and interacting with the most suspected ones. Chezinu is a reactionary reader. He didn't start scum hunting until today. He requires chaos for reads. Conclusion: There are many blue roles in this game, at least 3 from Chez's senses. This is how Chezinu plays. He can't just make cases like regular townies. He is stuck with his own strength and weakness. Just because the Chezinu Rule was in no effect this game and Chez sheeped VE it placed Chezinu in a bad positioned coupled with the many blue roles this game which blinds him. Not to forget it would be hard to separate the red and blue without discussion due to the fear of hurricanes.
Oh geez... I play so scripted nowadays..
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Maybe I should have played with the pyro theme instead of the boring theme.
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WOW!!! This is true this game too!!!
On August 15 2015 12:27 Chezinu wrote:
First our dear leader gets drunk and rage votes me... THEN his followers get drunk while voting me. The showing of love and hugs didn't work...
I've lost count of the number of lies rayn told about me this game. If you read his filter and then my filter, you would think we were playing two separate games. Cause his references to my posts without quotes are usually false.
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On August 15 2015 17:30 Chezinu wrote:Dear town, I really don't know what to do. When I look at the last few games I played as town, I just see Caller. I see myself playing like Caller before he disappeared. I've been playing mafia since game 2. Nearly 7 years. I first play relatively sanely in the thread in those game and goofed off in pms. Back then I wasn't as talented. I was nothing compared to players such as Showtime! and Ace in comparison to style. I was just an admirer. There were great name, big names, that would play in these mafia game, Ace, Plexa, BloodyClobber, L, Caller, Ver...etc. I was not a big name back then. I would cheer them on. I would love interacting with these individuals, mostly through pms in games that people would never see. Then as I learned from them, I began to flourish. The first success was the first time being mafia. Plexa's summer game. I was the GF and in that game, only the GF could send in the kills. I made all the final decisions. I became known as a blue sniper and known for my GOSU kills, which the host leaked knowledge of to BC, one of the players in the game. Host were greatly involve unintentional back there. I have seen a lot over the years... There is a history of going from clues -> no clues which changed the game of TL Mafia forever. At the time it was experimental, most didn't believe you could analyze and find mafia without clues. How can you read people by text alone?!? This was soon disproven by great analyst such as Ver (and some later discovered cheaters).. There is a history of going from pm game -> pure thread. people wanted observers to understand what was going on in the game. (I was a talented pm game player, big game changer for me as this is how I had gotten most of my reads in the past. After this.. the insane chez in thread emerged) There is a history of big game -> smaller games. Inactivity was a problem.. I personally love the 30 player games the best or short mini's. There is a history of calmness -> insanity. I'm sorry, I am one of the big reasons game became chaotic... There is a history of game mechanics. This never really had a direction. Normal games became to simple. I believe I hit my competitive prime in 2010. After which, I got busier in RL and played less often. I started having less and less vacation time to play games. My trolls have since become more routine and less adventuresome.. My analysis skill have decreased. I am not what I use to be. I'm an old player. I start to think of players such as Caller and Ace. They were great players.. but in the end... especially Caller... they became less... and some disappeared and never finishing hosting a game that still holds the record of the longest "mafiaish" game hosted on the TL Mafia forums. I see myself as them.. they played less to win and more to relax and have fun.. I see BC... He use to control the threads and dominated just like Ace, Caller, and L... He was mayor on more than one occasion... He grew up and lurked the shadows as a smart player and a poet... I see a pattern... we all become trolls and disappear... Playing the journey and not the end... But there is a difference! Hosts have placed a rule to prevent such things from happening... that is... a rule that states that one should PLAY TO WIN! With this, though I am deteriorating as a player and people like marv ask me "what happened to chez?" I will fight this because one thing about Chez has not changed. CHEZINU DOES NOT CONCEDE!!! + Show Spoiler +unless it's God of course SO THERE YOU HAVE IT! I'm horrible now and don't have any good reads. My sheeping of good players to hide my fallacies has failed me. I was never talented at making cases which you can see in my history... But I won't give up! So, I stand here before you all about to be condemned as scum for my lack of reads and my abundance of trolliness. I confess to having trolled all of Day 1 and more than half of Day 2. Yes, guilty. As for being scum, I am not and will not confess. So, to prove my innocence I will do what Chezinu as mafia has never done nor do I foresee doing in the future... CHEZINU IS TOWNCHEZINU IS TOWNCHEZINU IS TOWNCHEZINU IS TOWNCHEZINU IS TOWNCHEZINU IS TOWNCHEZINU IS TOWNCHEZINU IS TOWNCHEZINU IS TOWNCHEZINU IS TOWNCHEZINU IS TOWNCHEZINU IS TOWNCHEZINU IS TOWNCHEZINU IS TOWNCHEZINU IS TOWNCHEZINU IS TOWNCHEZINU IS TOWNCHEZINU IS TOWNCHEZINU IS TOWNYes I did it. I confessed that I am town in green colors and all!! Now, to find the remaining mafia... I'm going to pray. And if Henri is mafia... We can lynch him. If not, I hope to God that the mafia will be revealed. For this old rusty player needs assistance from on high.
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