[M][N] Names Are Hard 2

On August 25 2017 04:48 Damdred wrote:
So I have a bad early town read on ls for the way he is acting.

On July 13 2017 06:34 Koshi wrote:
Hello my Minions. Your master will be doing a 1 page filter D1. He is planning on making 3 big quality posts and around 15 "fluff" posts but only when he politely is asked a question or feels like barking a question. Good Minions know that the great leader should be followed, and even naughty Minions know to at least sheep the master his list. Evil Minions will be dealt with. Swiftly and without mercy.

Your leader has spoken. Hail to the great leader.

On August 25 2017 04:54 Tumblewood wrote:

lmao

On August 25 2017 04:57 Tumblewood wrote:

it never ceases to amaze me how much information i have

On August 25 2017 05:00 Tumblewood wrote:

i feel like people make these kinds of posts ("if tw is scum he just tmi'd") about me 3x more than anyone else, and i don't get why.

On August 29 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
I will be playing superslow. Still banking all that mad respect from last game.

On October 04 2016 06:03 Koshi wrote:
Not sure if I have a plan this game. Not hard townreading mafia somehow maybe.

On August 16 2016 08:32 Koshi wrote:
Second. Confirmed town.

Wanted to play this game really really slow. But I got a pretty cool role so maybe not.

On August 25 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote:

have you looked at a single town game

On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:

nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

On August 26 2017 02:31 Tumblewood wrote:
i dunno what i expected from oats, but i did not expect that

On August 26 2017 02:33 Tumblewood wrote:

nope! except a weak one on rux for having an incredilame comeback

On August 26 2017 02:39 Tumblewood wrote:

and fyi you didn't ask me who my townreads are. + Show Spoiler +

On August 26 2017 02:44 Tumblewood wrote:

ah, i see you approach the game differently than i do. a classic scenario

On August 26 2017 02:57 Tumblewood wrote:

it kinda does help when you can narrow the mafia pool down continuously and home in on 4-5 possible mafia. which is exactly what i plan to do. you can call townreads garbage, but i think your tells are way outdated, so how about i keep playing the game in a way that works for me and maybe we can lynch some mafia anyway.

On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.

On August 26 2017 03:11 Tumblewood wrote:

hf / rayn / rux / art / geript / you. pick 3

On August 26 2017 03:13 Oatsmaster wrote:

Well you see, you need to pick 3, not me.

Can you give any reasons at all for any one of your scumreads??

On August 26 2017 03:15 Tumblewood wrote:

yes as in i think his meta is consistent, but i don't think that quote is a complete representation of his meta. later that game -- or if that quote wasn't from mspo, sometime in mspo -- geript said "town!TW says what he thinks" a couple times and he said that exactly to start off this game. not that i think i have said what i think any more or less this game, but it is at least a consistent approach.

On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:

nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

On August 26 2017 03:25 Tumblewood wrote:
this just in: rayn is downgraded to scumlean, for something 20 pages back.
scumlean for what i call "lawyering" against skynx, aka asking so many questions that even a townie is likely to slip up (at least enough to be pushable). not scumread because i am aware rayn is known to ask lots of questions normally, however this time is a little Different

On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

On August 26 2017 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I probably want to lynch Skynx here. If i am wrong you can call me bad, but now i dont see any reason to not trust this read.

On August 26 2017 07:01 Tumblewood wrote:

townie

On August 26 2017 07:10 Tumblewood wrote:
so if i am to trust rayn on oats (and i do because he has apparently played 50 million games with him), i have converged upon a team of geript/hf/art. and outside of that there might be one scum that i am overlooking

On August 26 2017 07:10 Tumblewood wrote:
so if i am to trust rayn on oats (and i do because he has apparently played 50 million games with him), i have converged upon a team of geript/hf/art. and outside of that there might be one scum that i am overlooking

On August 26 2017 07:15 Tumblewood wrote:

i think 2ish pages ago rayn said he was parity cop. hf hard claimed blue at the start of the game but i don't think he's serious. but idk, i tend to wait until the thread catches up to it because i'm really shit with telling whether people are claiming for real or not.

On August 26 2017 07:16 Tumblewood wrote:

i think you have completely misunderstood my process of arriving at that mafia team

On August 26 2017 07:29 Tumblewood wrote:

precisely

On August 26 2017 07:29 Tumblewood wrote:

precisely

On August 26 2017 07:32 Tumblewood wrote:

the problem is apparently all of my thoughts are fake thoughts

On August 26 2017 07:50 Tumblewood wrote:

i like vivax post 160, hf post 404, skynx post 461, and your post 527. (i forgot what those posts were, but i wrote them down so they must be important somehow). i also liked the post by you i quoted and said townie
damdred is hedging like i would expect him to as town. that said i don't think i've ever played with scum!damdred. speaking of which, where is damdred?
ls is town puppy. i think i am mostly in agreement with thread sentiment here so i won't spend to long explaining it. and now that i think about it i haven't played with scum!ls either. whatever
rayn claimed parity cop and i have no reason yet to distrust it
artanis is making a lot of unimportant posts. not irrelevant, but no clear direction.
oats annoys me, because he is playing like the site meta is 2014, but the year is 2017 and i am a very newfangled player. his posting seems like i would expect from someone who has been gone for a long time, and i am not used to reading that. rayn says he is town so i will sheep rayn for now
hf and geript are super boring. geript is at least not pushing straight bullshit like last game, so if that trend continues he may slide into the town category. he would also have to post about something other than koshi, rayn, and me.
your comeback was pretty lame but your recent posting has good tone. and i like making tone reads because they are easy
skynx showed a good progression on the koshi thing early, but he cannot ride that forever and is notably not here.
vivax had a really good post so i wrote him off for a while, and then when i forgot why, he had another really good post so i'm writing him off again. if he continues to play well or at least decently i will not lynch him this game.
koshi's reads line up with mine and he is staying away from the path of least resistance, although there is a chance he is pocketing me. i'm not sure pocketing is an actual strategy anyone uses though.

i think that's everyone

On August 26 2017 08:02 Tumblewood wrote:

- because initially when people doubted him he doubled down instead of giving up immediately (at something i think scum would, at that point, realize is not going to happen), and then when he checked a town game himself he realized he was wrong. but it did very much seem like he thought he had a kickass meta read when he doubled down.

- ... i guess. my current tell on him is "pushes lynchbait for bullshit reasons".

2014 was a time when players lynched each other for being bad instead of being scum. i can see why vets like it.

On August 25 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote:

have you looked at a single town game

Mafia
Geript
ruXxar
HF

On August 26 2017 08:22 Tumblewood wrote:

at what point did people start saying this anyway

On August 26 2017 08:16 Tumblewood wrote:

1. i think before my "have you read any of his town games" post there were a few people just saying it was a bad read. like when i just responded with "lmao".
2. no, i don't think those players are lynchbait, which is why i don't think koshi is mafia.

On August 27 2017 04:21 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck dude i totally forgot the deadline was early

On August 26 2017 08:31 Tumblewood wrote:
gtg. be back in maybe 2 hours

On August 27 2017 04:29 Skynx wrote:
It's still 5-5, art with later votes

On August 28 2017 05:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I needed a medic dodge on me because i cant jail myself.

On August 28 2017 13:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The sad part is i cannot call ruxxar mafia because he is most likely not.
Although if he is in this game, i will probably lynch him in every game that will ever come after this one.

On August 30 2017 04:52 Tumblewood wrote:
unless it is exactly hf/geript/oats some major assumption i made about this game is wrong

On August 31 2017 03:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Is anyone else seeing this shit being posted by TW? He comes in here and literally does a running commentary on the drama. Literally not concerned at all that town is in big trouble, no, he looks perfectly happy with the state of this thread.
He's obviously mafia.

On August 31 2017 09:52 Tumblewood wrote:
oats is clear mafia. this is a very good read so listen up.

this is how far oats is willing to bend his reasoning to push me:

this is 100% bullshit because:
- the "running commentary on the drama" was 1 post, or 3 if you count me telling rux his read was still stupid and inane.
- apparently from those three posts he has also extrapolated that i think town is not in big trouble. apparently i should have said something more productive, along the lines of "wowo town is fucked". not that i necessarily think this is a terrible position--i am 80% sure both onegu and oats are scum, and we can at least get down to 3v1 or 2v1 lylo with hopefully one or even two clear townies.
- these things both make me mafia for some reason.

the track record on people making super bullshit reads on me and then pushing me all game is pretty good. geript in mspo, koshi in generic 3; caught them both on this shit and they were both mafia.

On August 31 2017 09:53 Tumblewood wrote:
and in similar fashion to the last two times, oats is one-dimensionally yelling "lynch tw" constantly.

On August 27 2017 15:26 Tumblewood wrote:
my scum pool is everyone on koshi, and that doesn't sound quite right. we may have to dig deeper into my town list than previously expected

On August 31 2017 13:13 Tumblewood wrote:

def not worth waiting. if we neeed to we can do it at mylo, but i would rather not have to have every single member of town vote correctly after seeing 3 people flip out about rayn yesterday.

On August 27 2017 04:35 Tumblewood wrote:
ok then

On August 27 2017 04:41 Tumblewood wrote:

this is actually a good point

On August 27 2017 15:23 Tumblewood wrote:
ok im caught up heres my notes:

+ Show Spoiler [whatever] +

conclusion:

rayn is town and i don't get why people are still treating him like he's not town.
ls could be flying under the radar but i doubt it.
rux confuses me. bottom line idk man
geript is had to read when he's Not Playing but he's not on my good side.
hf really confuses me. because he spends a dozen pages attacrt and then chews out everyone not on koshi. so by confuses me i mean is scummy.
oats is back in the mafia pool. i think his narrow focus on koshi despite koshi not being his top scurmead is scummy.
vivax is conftown in my mind
skynx is town.
art looks like a real wounded townie, but still a possibility. his filter is dull but there are some decent posts, especially the last will. i like last wills.
i completely forgot about damdred. but i think he was town

conclusion to the conclusion:

conftown:
vivax
rayn

town:
ls
skynx
damdred

dunno man:
rux
art

scumlean:
geript
hf
oats

On August 28 2017 05:34 Tumblewood wrote:

skynx is mega town for this comment

On August 30 2017 04:51 Tumblewood wrote:
this is a surprise

On August 30 2017 04:52 Tumblewood wrote:
unless it is exactly hf/geript/oats some major assumption i made about this game is wrong

On August 30 2017 05:09 Tumblewood wrote:

someone i had written off as town is not town. it might be damdred. imma have to reread d1 to make sense of it.

On August 30 2017 05:14 Tumblewood wrote:
i could believe a geript/damdred/x team. it makes sense if geript is scum for damdred to start another wagon on art, which drew everyone off the geript wagon. it just seems off that scum would put all their eggs in one basket in a tvt run-off

On August 30 2017 05:42 Tumblewood wrote:
i wasn't there to see deadline unfold and i'm piecing it together from the vote count. but if i am wrong on anyone it's you

On August 31 2017 14:02 Tumblewood wrote:
=you have not provided a meaningful distinction between what shows someone cares and what shows they do not care, =

On September 01 2017 13:59 Tumblewood wrote:

oats:
- oats has been pushing me all game and as he continues to fail his reasons to attack me get more and more bullshit. rayn (who has the most experience playing with oats) was also scumreading him well before he died.

On September 01 2017 13:59 Tumblewood wrote:

ruxxar:
- the last cycle he has been completely wacko. rails like crazy against un-cc'd jk rayn, turns against me (reasons being "yeah i see what you mean oats definitely looks more like scum!tw) instead of hf, despite the fact that there is apparently 100% scum between him and rayn. and his only big townread is oats of all people, which is absurd. this is past the point of bad, he is just mafia.
.

On September 01 2017 14:22 Tumblewood wrote:

how hard is this to explain?
i am not scumreading you because you are scumreading me. i am scumreading you because the reasons behind your read are bullshit. if you had these same reasons but were attacking holyflare i would scumread you for it just the same.

On August 31 2017 03:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Is anyone else seeing this shit being posted by TW? He comes in here and literally does a running commentary on the drama. Literally not concerned at all that town is in big trouble, no, he looks perfectly happy with the state of this thread.
He's obviously mafia.

On September 02 2017 04:05 Tumblewood wrote:
hi i'm here. if you wanna nolynch whatever just get everyone on it

On September 04 2017 03:04 Holyflare wrote:
no lynch is only good if people are actually talking about who the mafia team is and who they would lynch and what happens next

which absolutely nobody in this game is doing

On September 04 2017 04:14 Tumblewood wrote:

another great way to get done with this game is to lynch the mafia

On September 04 2017 04:33 Tumblewood wrote:

i already have several times, but onegu/oats/rux. rather not lynch rux first but i might