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I mean im not gona put much effort into this deadgame, just trying to save you guys a ml.
Just gona say I've been town for 80% of the game and that sl case prolly just fucked me up cuz i was too tryhard or something i dunno i still think its a good case.
I dont think its emp or rels, damdy's dead soon so you two gona have to decide between sl and tw.
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On July 25 2017 00:23 Skynx wrote: I mean im not gona put much effort into this deadgame, just trying to save you guys a ml. Game was only dead this weekend because scum decided to give up + it was weekend. If you're town I don't see why you're giving up.
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On July 24 2017 21:58 sicklucker wrote: Interesting that the bus train was rolling that early. I wonder if there was internal disputes ;p. I wouldnt doubt the other mafia was bussed too
If it's the mafia bussing than I probably will be tw eh?
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On July 25 2017 00:39 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2017 00:23 Skynx wrote: I mean im not gona put much effort into this deadgame, just trying to save you guys a ml. Game was only dead this weekend because scum decided to give up + it was weekend. If you're town I don't see why you're giving up.
Idk I would like to be not right than wrong this game. Would make sense for scum to just say fuck it in this situation though
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This is a few hours after the start of the game, and rsoul's second post.
On July 13 2017 15:18 rsoultin wrote: -bounces-
can we lynch an ec? or a va, but that's just cuz fuuuun...of course it would be more fun if he got to mope first, so ec
also -flings hearts at everyone, especially an hf!-
damdy gets a day pass for ruxxy...i'm actually kinda flattered he thinks so highly of me lol ><
i think geript may get a day pass too just for telling joni to stop lynching for dumbass ^^ we'll go with a wait and see on tw for #reasons rsoul's real first push being on EC is weird if they're partner. But that's not all. Just after, starting with this post, rsoul and EC have a ~40 posts conversation, at the beginning of the game, where it looks like EC is really trying to gauge rsoul. Doesn't feel like a scum vs scum AT ALL. I think I'm never considering EC as scum now that I've read that.
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On July 25 2017 03:09 Rels wrote:This is a few hours after the start of the game, and rsoul's second post. Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 15:18 rsoultin wrote: -bounces-
can we lynch an ec? or a va, but that's just cuz fuuuun...of course it would be more fun if he got to mope first, so ec
also -flings hearts at everyone, especially an hf!-
damdy gets a day pass for ruxxy...i'm actually kinda flattered he thinks so highly of me lol ><
i think geript may get a day pass too just for telling joni to stop lynching for dumbass ^^ we'll go with a wait and see on tw for #reasons rsoul's real first push being on EC is weird if they're partner. But that's not all. Just after, starting with this post, rsoul and EC have a ~40 posts conversation, at the beginning of the game, where it looks like EC is really trying to gauge rsoul. Doesn't feel like a scum vs scum AT ALL. I think I'm never considering EC as scum now that I've read that. good shit
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On July 13 2017 18:48 sicklucker wrote: I remember koshi saying he was gonna try to do a 1 page filter last game so I think he looks neutral to good such a bad post. Such a bad reason to townread Koshi. Koshi says that all the time and then never do it. SL you should know that.
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On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:I haven't completely read everything yet but I hate rayn most of everyone in the thread so far. The whole point of him on Ruxxar is that he didn't scumread EC for: Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:09 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 06:58 emperorchampion wrote:On July 13 2017 06:56 ruXxar wrote: Distracting town with off-topic discussion. I see you are pulling out the tricks early. What's off topic about scum hunting ? How's your raynometer feeling? Wait, wait wait. Your first sentence was referring to HF context post as if I was accusing HF of off topic discussion. BUT. You second sentence is referring to Rayn as if he was the suspect target. I'm getting conflicting messaging here. Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Ruxxar why aren't you pushing this EC thing further, she literally just answered you by talking about something completely different than what you asked. I mean ok valid point but then they both keep on producing 3-4 pages of filter of absolutely nothing of value. This is the argument and thats it. Anyway thats not the main point: If ruxxar is mafia, doesn't that also make EC mafia? I mean you're scumreading Ruxxar for not enforcing his argument, which you consider the best post at the time. Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: i never said your case on EC wasn't townie, it was the best post in the thread. But you just threw it in the trash for no reason, and that makes you mafia.
Tell me this: 1) Why cannot, let's say Damdred, sickluckr and VA be mafia, as you are totally fine with geript dying by "poe"? 2) If they can, why are you actually totally fine with geript dying? That means you like the idea behind and if you actually paid attention, you would realise that makes EC mafia. Yet you post nothing on EC and focus on Ruxxar. On top of that, if you actually think Ruxxar is mafia and if you are town, even if you don't notice it EC is mafia at the same time, that means Ruxxar is just attempting to bus his teammate as the first real action in the thread?? rayn's action don't add up here, not posting anything on EC is prolly the worst but he's just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion. On geript: Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 13 2017 07:18 geript wrote:On July 13 2017 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: try to tell why geript If I figure it out, I'll explain then. try something Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 13 2017 07:28 geript wrote:On July 13 2017 07:25 Holyflare wrote:On July 13 2017 07:22 geript wrote: Hey HF. Find the worst post in the thread up to this point and quote it. On July 13 2017 06:10 rsoultin wrote: Lexy kicked me out for hosty reasons pffft. Leave me gifts for morning?
♡s a ruxxy pupil want to vomit blood On July 13 2017 06:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: i think you're trying a bit too hard for the state of the game but i dont know what it means. trying to start scum hunting but struggles + rest of filter he just rolled scum so this "new strat" he's trying is mafia fatigue till he gets in the swing of it and feels like cases/playing again Not the post I wanted you to pick up on so I could like you more...  this is also a terrible post. Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: geript is actually also prolly mafia ´ Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also that's the worst reason ever to read holyflare town. I have a good case on geript, do you? This is the 'case' on geript. One post he calls terrible, doesn't explain why its terrible and that is enough for him to put geript into his 100% scumpile. Then he accuses Ruxxar for having bad reasons to scumread geript. Then geript makes a nice sizeable post, explaining his thought process and why nothing already been said doesn't make sense and this just gets ridiculed. I think rayn is a massive town distractive pile of scum trash. He's just talking a lot and hoping people would listen to him when he says "This guy is scum just follow me". ##Vote: raynpelikoneet meh. Such a good post. It's Skynx' first post and I have no idea if he does good post like that as scum. OK he has done it before as scum. 1 2 3 In addition this post looks an awful lot like the one I really liked EON1:
On November 05 2016 01:35 Skynx wrote: Summary
Very town: mahg Townlean: Exo, Calix Not read at all: darth Bad but not thoroughly read:Foreman Nullish cuz neither town nor scum but bad: Rels Scum: TT, NU
I pushed mahg earlier, his respons I liked. His lists later on I liked. He's not overly spammy. He's the most town imo.
Exo's retaliation is a towntell from my perspective as he's been sr'd by almost everyone in the game, some of which for very bad reasons or no reasons at all. Its his right to retaliate. However not much arguments otherise, he's just been defending all game, I've been in this situation and can sympathise.
Calix is quite null actually this was hard to decide. His early game has been bad a he should know better by now after 3 games here that him vs NU just results in them filling filters and nothing else. He needs more thorough read for sure. I'm mostly townreading him on tone which I'm kinda confident after playing with him often in past few months, which i know is bad but its the best i can do atm.
Darth had that conspiracy about his opinion on me as a reason Rels and some others scumread, which doesn't mean anything imo but need to read him later on. I just got the feeling he's not been bad overall.
I don't like Foreman's over-aggressive tone. He didn't get much going against him but why so aggressive then? He most definitely needs a re-read, I think he's been flying under the radar.
Read above for opinions on Rels.
Read cases in filter for opinions on NU and TT.
It looks like this:
On July 16 2017 03:41 Skynx wrote:I promissed a list so there we go Never lynch town: rayn, HF, geript, Damdredrayn has been the town pillar this game, not really need to say more + we had the exact same scumlist yesterday. This is town HF, he's been diving into detail finding little stuff on Ruxxar that i liked, he was instantly on VA, etc. He is scumhunting decently so far. geript and damdy are uncontested masons, breadcrumbed earlier + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2017 08:44 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: geript is actually also prolly mafia ´ He's totally town brah On July 13 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote: Also I will burn this thread to the ground over geript, just so everyone knows.
I think rayb is also town.
Tina probably not town at this point, rux not sure but he's a bit nitpicky go me atm. On July 13 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote: I think geript is town for these reasons
1) he has no real motivation as scum. Look at his previous games and as scum he's a leader and always have a plan.
Here he's just eh.
2) He leaves himself in bad positions with his opinions. Like his opening post had no real logic behind it which us a town trait for geript early. As scum he could of fakes a reason instead he went eh Idk.
3) I just know he's town this game. (Imo) so i don't really doubt the claim. There is a case where they do this as scum but that will be apparent if they don't die D2-3 anyway so don't have to worry about this read for a while Town: rsoultinVivaxI bought tinas raging in the thread and now replacing out of emotion is really convincing. I don't see a mafia doing this, it would just be very unsportsmanlike (altho confirming Vivax like this is very dicky aswell) Null: Rels, sickluckerUnreadable boyz in da hood of D1, voted VA cuz VA is bad. Need to step up bigtime now. Scum: TW, Ruxxar, emperorThey have all done objectively scummy shit, all in my filter so go look it up. Koshi is on a category of his own, he hasn't done a towny thing so far so that warrants a scumread on its own but i just can't bring together a case looking at his filter. He needs to be lynched at some point if he keeps going like this. This second post is from this current game, the first is from his last scum game. I really liked this post from Skynx, I think I even townread him for it at one point, I thought it was very logical and well structured so a lot more likely to come from town. But all in all Skynx can play a very good scum game. A few great posts is not enough to make him town. On the contrary maybe, him having great posts at the beginning then declining starting D2 might indicate he's scum.
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On July 25 2017 03:19 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 18:48 sicklucker wrote: I remember koshi saying he was gonna try to do a 1 page filter last game so I think he looks neutral to good such a bad post. Such a bad reason to townread Koshi. Koshi says that all the time and then never do it. SL you should know that.
no he does do it. it just never lasts for more then a cycle or too
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On July 25 2017 04:01 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2017 03:19 Rels wrote:On July 13 2017 18:48 sicklucker wrote: I remember koshi saying he was gonna try to do a 1 page filter last game so I think he looks neutral to good such a bad post. Such a bad reason to townread Koshi. Koshi says that all the time and then never do it. SL you should know that. no he does do it. it just never lasts for more then a cycle or too [source required]
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On July 25 2017 04:05 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2017 04:01 sicklucker wrote:On July 25 2017 03:19 Rels wrote:On July 13 2017 18:48 sicklucker wrote: I remember koshi saying he was gonna try to do a 1 page filter last game so I think he looks neutral to good such a bad post. Such a bad reason to townread Koshi. Koshi says that all the time and then never do it. SL you should know that. no he does do it. it just never lasts for more then a cycle or too [source required] And even if he does that "sometimes as town for the first cycle". Which I don't think he ever did. And I want you to prove he ever did. BUT even taking this hypothesis to be true for one minute. WHY would that make Koshi town just because he doesn't post ? Why couldn't he do that as scum this game ? Why is it "neutral to good" ?
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On July 25 2017 00:19 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 21:51 sicklucker wrote: my First and quite important train of thought is why was va lynched over skyx if they are both town? The only none fliped person voting skynx is tumbleweed. now I think hes town. So this means 3 mafia voted va over skyx or were off wagon.
Why wouldnt anyone as mafia hammer skynx over va there? Skynx is a much harder person to lynch then va. Va was always getting lynched in this game. Its basically a free lynch for mafia or two lynches for one.
The only conclusion I can think of is he is infact mafia. Lets call this reason 1
Theres way more evidence in the vote count to back this up
[*] VayneAuthority (6) - raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, sicklucker, emperorchampion, Rels, Koshi [*] Skynx (5) - [green] geript, ruXxar, Damdred, VayneAuthority, Tumblewood [green]
Notice how koshi is also the hammer vote... Yes skynx could have voted himself which is why the vote never seemed close to anyone. But you have to remember he was just afk... scum and town alike can be afk. Luckily scumlord koshi was around to save him.
Lets say skyx is town. that means the last mafia is ec or rels. Again they would have voted skynx over va if there smart... and they were the last votes so the most likely to change as well. Lets call this reason 2
Both points suggest someones mafia but both together is more then a coincidence
Why do you assume TW is green? He was the last vote on deadline switching on me. this is actually an extremely good remark. SL you're describing a situation where scum is more likely to vote Skynx in your POV. TW votes Skynx with a weird timing. But for some reason your conclusion ios that SKynx is 100% scum ?
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On July 15 2017 23:50 Damdred wrote: Tw I think is most likely town here, his bit looks bad but he is to honest atm and his vote looks bad and awkward and I fond that comes from town generally and he actually makes it seem like he can create a difference in the bit and seems to believe . Another town trait. this is true
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On July 16 2017 01:04 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:53 Holyflare wrote: Are you 100% gonna stick to this read? No it's not 100%. Looking through my filter, I found sicklucker to be more interesting. He actually defended koshi with out of game information, not just once, but twice. Koshi/SL team is very possible. Then you may slide into third place, or maybe rels/vivax. Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 18:48 sicklucker wrote: I remember koshi saying he was gonna try to do a 1 page filter last game so I think he looks neutral to good Like this is a terrible defense of a person. What he's saying is "koshi said he was gonna play scummy, and because he's playing scummy he looks good" No, it makes him look fucking scummy. Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 21:37 sicklucker wrote:On July 13 2017 21:33 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 20:50 Koshi wrote:On July 13 2017 20:41 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 20:26 Koshi wrote:On July 13 2017 20:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi what's your opinion on what i said about ruxxar? I don't know what ruxxar is doing this game. So basically I agree with the idea behind your case. He made a couple extremely dumb observations this game. I don't understand what he is doing as I don't see him solving the game while playing. Last game he scumread me while I had a 10 page filter and correctly read him while nobody else did, this game he very quickly townread both townleaders for scumhunting... Filterlenght and sheer enthusiasm holds me back but he is on the watch list. Koshi, you are way too serious this game. You look nothing like your last game. Your tone is completely different. Very somber and low energy. protip: Different does not equal mafia. Why am I somber? 1) your opening post basically declares "I'm going to play this game solo" Which sets up the expectation of a low interactivity game from you. Having that excuse in your back to take pressure of your non-interactivity is great from a mafia agenda point of view. 2) You are somber by the fact that you don't have the jesty/non-chalant way of talking as you did last game. Example of posts you made as town that represent such a tone: On June 14 2017 16:52 Koshi wrote: Hmm I am going to call fefe and TW town.
TW for thinking fefe is hilariously suspicious and fefe for believing that.
2 townreads. 1 more than rayn.
ggwp. On June 14 2017 16:49 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 16:46 Xatalos wrote:On June 14 2017 16:35 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 13:40 Xatalos wrote:On June 14 2017 08:04 Fecalfeast wrote: This deadline is nice for me.
##vote koshi :/ This emoticon is made by mafia over town 9/10 times. It is proven. I concede :/ See. Now you are mafia 81/100 times, 9/100 times mafia pretending to be town, 9/100 times town pretending to be mafia, and only 1% chance to be town being town. Can't disagree with math. Especially my math. Koshi had this planned before the game even started he talked about it in the obs qt and post game , last game.... #WeLynchedPeopleWhoWereRight
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During N1:
On July 16 2017 05:14 sicklucker wrote: im def down to lynch either koshi or you. seems like a good wager What ? I thought Koshi's lackluster D1 was slightly townie
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Koshi's treatment of SL is pretty damning too. Ignoring him,having weak interactions with him a few times, but he's in his scumlist without being his main target. Partner probability: 90%.
In addition, his hard push on TW seems like a fake way to make us think they're bussing. I mean, this seems way over the top:
On July 21 2017 02:00 Koshi wrote: ## unvote ## vote: Vivax
Going to party. Dont think my cote should be needed but wont be home anymore and tw is noy happening. This double bus was best idea ever.
About Skynx, he's kinda lackluster too, but this is kinda townie for Skynx:
On July 17 2017 02:26 Koshi wrote: I scumread EC just by reading Skynx his filter. I didn't read before the lynch but I have no clue how he was the counterwagen. dunno if a partner does this post if Koshi / Skynx are a team. He's using openly using Skynx' read to push EC. If Skynx ever flips this looks bad.
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TLDR SL is always the lynch tomorrow. If I'm wrong it's very likely to be Skynx. But I don't think I am.
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Day 5
DEAD !!! Damdred, the Mason
It is now Day 5! You have until Wednesday, Jul 26 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), or to bring out your vote in the voting thread here.
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