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those are some good points on sl. i still think this game lines up well with what i'd call sl's "worldview", but admittedly i don't have a great read on him.
the big thing i get out of this is that rels is either town or producing some of the best analysis i have ever seen from scum.
thankfully we have 1 ML left but i will read both of their filters/meta tonight.
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On July 25 2017 04:20 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2017 04:05 Rels wrote:On July 25 2017 04:01 sicklucker wrote:On July 25 2017 03:19 Rels wrote:On July 13 2017 18:48 sicklucker wrote:
I remember koshi saying he was gonna try to do a 1 page filter last game so I think he looks neutral to good such a bad post. Such a bad reason to townread Koshi. Koshi says that all the time and then never do it. SL you should know that. no he does do it. it just never lasts for more then a cycle or too [source required] And even if he does that "sometimes as town for the first cycle". Which I don't think he ever did. And I want you to prove he ever did. BUT even taking this hypothesis to be true for one minute. WHY would that make Koshi town just because he doesn't post ? Why couldn't he do that as scum this game ? Why is it "neutral to good" ?
I never said it made him town im sure you know what neutral means. im not going to go through all my old games ive played a ton. I think one was that "alien" game
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On July 25 2017 05:07 Rels wrote:During N1: Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 05:14 sicklucker wrote:
im def down to lynch either koshi or you. seems like a good wager What ? I thought Koshi's lackluster D1 was slightly townie
he also hammered town that cycle...
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On July 25 2017 06:27 Tumblewood wrote:
those are some good points on sl. i still think this game lines up well with what i'd call sl's "worldview", but admittedly i don't have a great read on him.
the big thing i get out of this is that rels is either town or producing some of the best analysis i have ever seen from scum.
thankfully we have 1 ML left but i will read both of their filters/meta tonight.
.... its not even good wtf. he just said im scum because I misused a world like I always fucking do. And the timing is suspect as hell in a game where mafia needs two mislynches...
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On July 25 2017 05:26 Rels wrote:
TLDR SL is always the lynch tomorrow.
If I'm wrong it's very likely to be Skynx. But I don't think I am.
setting up two lynches lul. maybe I was wrong here
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The only good point rels made was on ec
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man I still kind of think its skynx but this timing is something else. he already knows skyx is gonna vote for me so he just needs one more.
Then bam he autos skynx in final 3
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this is true. it is a shrewd move to go for the sl vote today if you are scum!rels because skynx is a nearly inevitable lynch.
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if we lynch skynx - likely sl/rels runoff with me as deciding vote. or ec if they think me being independent is too much of a risk
if we lynch sl - rels/skynx runoff, same sort of deal but rels probably wins this one
if skynx is scum - rels is just bad. and going off track
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if we lynch rels - skynx vs sl, town wins 90% of the time
if we lynch sl - rels vs skynx, town wins 70% of the time
if sl is scum - idk, if scum he doesn't seem to have a plan here. unless you count omgus as a plan
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we lynch rels - shit goes bad
we lynch skynx - shit goes bad?
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i almost wish i hadn't seen this, because i had so much peace of mind in thinking it was skynx, and now i'm doubting myself. but i don't think there's a world in which we don't lynch him, and if he's town it's much better to do it now and go into sl v rels lylo with full information
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thats weak hes scum so I dont mind but thats how games are lost. ryan and blazinghand laughing to the end
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man no ones ever around on my time
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On July 25 2017 03:38 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:I haven't completely read everything yet but I hate rayn most of everyone in the thread so far. The whole point of him on Ruxxar is that he didn't scumread EC for: On July 13 2017 07:09 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 06:58 emperorchampion wrote:On July 13 2017 06:56 ruXxar wrote:
Distracting town with off-topic discussion.
I see you are pulling out the tricks early. What's off topic about scum hunting ? How's your raynometer feeling? Wait, wait wait. Your first sentence was referring to HF context post as if I was accusing HF of off topic discussion. BUT. You second sentence is referring to Rayn as if he was the suspect target. I'm getting conflicting messaging here. On July 13 2017 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ruxxar why aren't you pushing this EC thing further, she literally just answered you by talking about something completely different than what you asked. I mean ok valid point but then they both keep on producing 3-4 pages of filter of absolutely nothing of value. This is the argument and thats it. Anyway thats not the main point: If ruxxar is mafia, doesn't that also make EC mafia? I mean you're scumreading Ruxxar for not enforcing his argument, which you consider the best post at the time. On July 13 2017 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i never said your case on EC wasn't townie, it was the best post in the thread. But you just threw it in the trash for no reason, and that makes you mafia.
Tell me this:
1) Why cannot, let's say Damdred, sickluckr and VA be mafia, as you are totally fine with geript dying by "poe"?
2) If they can, why are you actually totally fine with geript dying? That means you like the idea behind and if you actually paid attention, you would realise that makes EC mafia. Yet you post nothing on EC and focus on Ruxxar. On top of that, if you actually think Ruxxar is mafia and if you are town, even if you don't notice it EC is mafia at the same time, that means Ruxxar is just attempting to bus his teammate as the first real action in the thread?? rayn's action don't add up here, not posting anything on EC is prolly the worst but he's just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion. On geript: On July 13 2017 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 13 2017 07:18 geript wrote:On July 13 2017 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
try to tell why geript If I figure it out, I'll explain then. try something On July 13 2017 07:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 13 2017 07:28 geript wrote:On July 13 2017 07:25 Holyflare wrote:On July 13 2017 07:22 geript wrote:
Hey HF. Find the worst post in the thread up to this point and quote it. On July 13 2017 06:10 rsoultin wrote:
Lexy kicked me out for hosty reasons pffft. Leave me gifts for morning?
♡s a ruxxy pupil want to vomit blood On July 13 2017 06:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i think you're trying a bit too hard for the state of the game but i dont know what it means. trying to start scum hunting but struggles + rest of filter he just rolled scum so this "new strat" he's trying is mafia fatigue till he gets in the swing of it and feels like cases/playing again Not the post I wanted you to pick up on so I could like you more...  this is also a terrible post. On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript is actually also prolly mafia
´ On July 13 2017 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also that's the worst reason ever to read holyflare town.
I have a good case on geript, do you? This is the 'case' on geript. One post he calls terrible, doesn't explain why its terrible and that is enough for him to put geript into his 100% scumpile. Then he accuses Ruxxar for having bad reasons to scumread geript. Then geript makes a nice sizeable post, explaining his thought process and why nothing already been said doesn't make sense and this just gets ridiculed. I think rayn is a massive town distractive pile of scum trash. He's just talking a lot and hoping people would listen to him when he says "This guy is scum just follow me". ##Vote: raynpelikoneet meh. Such a good post. It's Skynx' first post and I have no idea if he does good post like that as scum. OK he has done it before as scum. 1 2 3In addition this post looks an awful lot like the one I really liked EON1: Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 01:35 Skynx wrote:
Summary
Very town: mahg
Townlean: Exo, Calix
Not read at all: darth
Bad but not thoroughly read:Foreman
Nullish cuz neither town nor scum but bad: Rels
Scum: TT, NU
I pushed mahg earlier, his respons I liked. His lists later on I liked. He's not overly spammy. He's the most town imo.
Exo's retaliation is a towntell from my perspective as he's been sr'd by almost everyone in the game, some of which for very bad reasons or no reasons at all. Its his right to retaliate. However not much arguments otherise, he's just been defending all game, I've been in this situation and can sympathise.
Calix is quite null actually this was hard to decide. His early game has been bad a he should know better by now after 3 games here that him vs NU just results in them filling filters and nothing else. He needs more thorough read for sure. I'm mostly townreading him on tone which I'm kinda confident after playing with him often in past few months, which i know is bad but its the best i can do atm.
Darth had that conspiracy about his opinion on me as a reason Rels and some others scumread, which doesn't mean anything imo but need to read him later on. I just got the feeling he's not been bad overall.
I don't like Foreman's over-aggressive tone. He didn't get much going against him but why so aggressive then? He most definitely needs a re-read, I think he's been flying under the radar.
Read above for opinions on Rels.
Read cases in filter for opinions on NU and TT.
It looks like this: Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 03:41 Skynx wrote:I promissed a list so there we go Never lynch town: rayn, HF, geript, Damdredrayn has been the town pillar this game, not really need to say more + we had the exact same scumlist yesterday. This is town HF, he's been diving into detail finding little stuff on Ruxxar that i liked, he was instantly on VA, etc. He is scumhunting decently so far. geript and damdy are uncontested masons, breadcrumbed earlier + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2017 08:44 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript is actually also prolly mafia
´ He's totally town brah On July 13 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote:
Also I will burn this thread to the ground over geript, just so everyone knows.
I think rayb is also town.
Tina probably not town at this point, rux not sure but he's a bit nitpicky go me atm. On July 13 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote:
I think geript is town for these reasons
1) he has no real motivation as scum. Look at his previous games and as scum he's a leader and always have a plan.
Here he's just eh.
2) He leaves himself in bad positions with his opinions. Like his opening post had no real logic behind it which us a town trait for geript early. As scum he could of fakes a reason instead he went eh Idk.
3) I just know he's town this game. (Imo) so i don't really doubt the claim. There is a case where they do this as scum but that will be apparent if they don't die D2-3 anyway so don't have to worry about this read for a while Town: rsoultinVivaxI bought tinas raging in the thread and now replacing out of emotion is really convincing. I don't see a mafia doing this, it would just be very unsportsmanlike (altho confirming Vivax like this is very dicky aswell) Null: Rels, sickluckerUnreadable boyz in da hood of D1, voted VA cuz VA is bad. Need to step up bigtime now. Scum: TW, Ruxxar, emperorThey have all done objectively scummy shit, all in my filter so go look it up. Koshi is on a category of his own, he hasn't done a towny thing so far so that warrants a scumread on its own but i just can't bring together a case looking at his filter. He needs to be lynched at some point if he keeps going like this. This second post is from this current game, the first is from his last scum game. I really liked this post from Skynx, I think I even townread him for it at one point, I thought it was very logical and well structured so a lot more likely to come from town. But all in all Skynx can play a very good scum game. A few great posts is not enough to make him town. On the contrary maybe, him having great posts at the beginning then declining starting D2 might indicate he's scum.
Lol what a trip I totally forgot about the last time I rolled scum 
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OK so sorry guys I have been super busy the last few days .
I think it makes sense to claim now, I am town parity cop. Night 1 I checked tumble, night 2 I checked rels (hence the crazy posts after this), night 3 I checked koshi, night 4 I checked skynx.
Tumble and rels came back as same alignment, koshi came back as opposite alignment from rels, and skynx came back as opposite alignment as koshi. If you are looking for any validity to back my claim, I did not vote for the "red check" on rels night 2 (actually I thought I tmi'd immediately lol). And the crazy theories that I had after night 2 regarding rels and tumble was based on I thought they were a scum team at the time.
Given my check I prefer to vote for sicklucker. Given that there is only 1 scum left, the only other possibility is that one of rels/tumble is godfather, or skynx is godfather. Given that the roleblocker flipped and there was a miller, I believe it is unlikely that there is a godfather on the scum team.
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As well, I think it makes most sense to get this information out there, and IF there is a godfather, it goes to the final 3 to figure out this versus try to make sense of it now.
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On July 25 2017 06:27 Tumblewood wrote:
those are some good points on sl. i still think this game lines up well with what i'd call sl's "worldview", but admittedly i don't have a great read on him.
the big thing i get out of this is that rels is either town or producing some of the best analysis i have ever seen from scum.
thankfully we have 1 ML left but i will read both of their filters/meta tonight.
why do you think you'll have to do that ? Are you so sure Skynx is flipping town or what ?
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On July 25 2017 08:56 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2017 05:07 Rels wrote:During N1: On July 16 2017 05:14 sicklucker wrote:
im def down to lynch either koshi or you. seems like a good wager What ? I thought Koshi's lackluster D1 was slightly townie he also hammered town that cycle...
so ?
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On July 25 2017 09:00 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2017 05:26 Rels wrote:
TLDR SL is always the lynch tomorrow.
If I'm wrong it's very likely to be Skynx. But I don't think I am. setting up two lynches lul. maybe I was wrong here
lol. Throwing shade but still voting Skynx right. So bad
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On July 26 2017 02:12 emperorchampion wrote:OK so sorry guys I have been super busy the last few days . I think it makes sense to claim now, I am town parity cop. Night 1 I checked tumble, night 2 I checked rels (hence the crazy posts after this), night 3 I checked koshi, night 4 I checked skynx. Tumble and rels came back as same alignment, koshi came back as opposite alignment from rels, and skynx came back as opposite alignment as koshi. If you are looking for any validity to back my claim, I did not vote for the "red check" on rels night 2 (actually I thought I tmi'd immediately lol). And the crazy theories that I had after night 2 regarding rels and tumble was based on I thought they were a scum team at the time. Given my check I prefer to vote for sicklucker. Given that there is only 1 scum left, the only other possibility is that one of rels/tumble is godfather, or skynx is godfather. Given that the roleblocker flipped and there was a miller, I believe it is unlikely that there is a godfather on the scum team.
alright this is good. Doesn't make sense for scum to claim here.
Just in case.
If you're blue, you CLAIM RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT MEANS EC IS SCUM. AND we have 2 lynches so the game is won.
EC is 99.9999% blue but just in case.
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