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On February 10 2017 08:59 ritoky wrote:Vacation Musings ft. Ritoky's Wife "I don't like that Palmar guy. Everything he said seemed pre-meditated, and people who tend to think of all that junk ahead of time are hiding stuff. But he also sounds smart, and smart people make sense. So I don't know, he wrote a bunch of stuff that is probably all factually correct; but can't anyone do that if they're as smart as him anyway?" "Oh wow, that Lightning guy seems genuinely excited that he did something and wants everyone to notice him....Oh wait now he's whining...I don't like whiners, can you vote on him now?" ritoky: I whine a lot "Who said I liked you? Anyways I don't know he sounds weird. Why don't you just vote both of them off the island?" ritoky: 1 of them has to be mafia and the other one town. "But you can just vote them both off anyways right? Cuz then you get 1 for sure." ritoky: From a procedural pov, you kinda can't. "Well that's dumb, you should be able to. They both sound bad, I wouldn't agonize over it; I would just pick one without thinking too hard about it and if you lose oh well, just blame the person who got voted off for not being good." ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/oBfzoy0.gif)
this was a funny post and I didn't read it properly the first time
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On February 10 2017 22:29 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 16:01 Vivax wrote:
For now we leave the cop claims be and focus on finding the other scum. No I have no idea who it could be yet, nothing jumps at me particularly.
Palmar should both cop claims check the same guy or not? Neither should claim who they're checking because mafia will prefer shooting the person checked if he is town. I kinda don't wanna explain more until after daybreak (you can remind me to explain on d1), but please just trust me that it's optimal to not announce my check.
typical mafia talk "ILL EXPLAIN LATER BUT I HAVE GOOD REASONS I PROMISE". It's not that there are not good reasons. Reasons are very likely to be very good. But this line of thoughts ==> "I have a good reason but I'll disclose it later" is a scummy mindset very usually. Especially if the reason is very good.
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On February 13 2017 23:44 Palmar wrote:
I actually was gonna check someone else but changed my mind because I felt like I was being paranoid. Not gonna reveal who until day 2. But you will understand my reasoning once I tell you.
looooooool again
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yeah to you ofc you wanna lynch Damred. But to the rest of us the game is auto won or auto lost after we lynch one of the cop claim.
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And even for you Damdred if conf town, but you WILL still have to chose between Palmar and LS.
I mean, you won't because you would be dead at that point, but town would have to chose anyway. So let's chose today
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there is no "extending the game" after we lynch a cop claim.
We got it right => you and Damdred protects LS who check one of you too => town lynch the check if it's red, or the other if it's green.
We got it wrong => scum kills the real doc.
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On February 14 2017 19:50 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2017 19:30 Rels wrote:On February 13 2017 23:44 Palmar wrote:
I actually was gonna check someone else but changed my mind because I felt like I was being paranoid. Not gonna reveal who until day 2. But you will understand my reasoning once I tell you.
looooooool again Show nested quote +On February 14 2017 07:38 Palmar wrote:
oh I talked earlier about checking someone.
I thought about checking damdred n0 because I can never read him. ie: I think he's mafia every game and this one was no exception. However I got mad at rels for talking about me being possibly mafia and checked him instead because him not bowing to glorious town leader palmar felt scummy at the time.
I humbly admit I forgot Rels has a case of the bads.
Sry nobody remembered to ask you so you had to tell it like that
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On February 14 2017 19:53 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2017 19:47 Rels wrote:
And even for you Damdred if conf town, but you WILL still have to chose between Palmar and LS.
I mean, you won't because you would be dead at that point, but town would have to chose anyway. So let's chose today I mean...not really. Lynching damdred who is conf scum will result in my immediate death since mafia won't risk leaving a conf medic alive cuz of save potential. So technically lynching damdred exempts me from having to choose, but I understand your general point. Some of it is under the assumption that palmar is 100% mafia though, because in the world where Palmar is town the game is literally over.
Nope, the reasonning is not made under the assumption Palmar is 100% mafia. I think Palmar is 99% mafia, but the reasonning is still correct without it.
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On February 14 2017 19:56 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2017 19:55 Rels wrote:On February 14 2017 19:53 ritoky wrote:On February 14 2017 19:47 Rels wrote:
And even for you Damdred if conf town, but you WILL still have to chose between Palmar and LS.
I mean, you won't because you would be dead at that point, but town would have to chose anyway. So let's chose today I mean...not really. Lynching damdred who is conf scum will result in my immediate death since mafia won't risk leaving a conf medic alive cuz of save potential. So technically lynching damdred exempts me from having to choose, but I understand your general point. Some of it is under the assumption that palmar is 100% mafia though, because in the world where Palmar is town the game is literally over. Nope, the reasonning is not made under the assumption Palmar is 100% mafia. I think Palmar is 99% mafia, but the reasonning is still correct without it. Your post about LS checking between me and damd is under that assumption though. Because in the world where we lynch LS and get it right, Palmar already has his red check.
OK that part is. But the important thing is that town WILL have to decide between Palmar and LS. If we lynch Damdred first, YOU won't have to decide 'cause you will be dead, but town still will have to.
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On February 14 2017 19:58 ritoky wrote:
Semantics though, like I said I understand your general point and how there is upside to lynching into the cops since the game will eventually (whether this phase or a subsequent one) be determined by that decision. And while I agree that there is some upside to that, I think that I am very clearly and demonstrably the medic; thus making damdred mafia in all worlds so I would prefer to take the guaranteed mafia even if it has slightly lower upside.
I don't get that though. So you would rather be dead and not be part of the decision that make or break the game ? You have the chance to be alive and be townread and have your opinion matter there
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On February 14 2017 20:15 ritoky wrote:
look if you and malongo agree on wanting to make the cop decision today, then i will suck it up and respect the conf town wishes and make the decision today, since you two would be making it the following phase anyway if i got my way.
Yeah I want that. From our (malongo and I) pov it's really stupid to Lynch outside the cops. Cause we just lose the game if you're scum, or back to the same situation if you're town.
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Yep Palmar you got fucked by LS playing naively and damdred playing weird about you. Regardless of alignment I might add. It points at you being scum soooo much. If you're town they both played brillantly
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On February 13 2017 04:19 Rels wrote:
lol if you think Palamr is 99% mafia we lynch Palmar. I'm way less confident on the other dude. Even more though knowing than if we're right tomorrow we have doc claim + another check.
On February 13 2017 04:26 Damdred wrote:
If that's what we are relying on though we should no lunch then.
The night kill will be more interesting with Palm/lls alive since they can't kill the cop without saccing and the doc should probably protect you and then we have a kill between ritoky and me. Then the real cop checks mal me or rit.
So more than likely the game is over with a no lynch here to.
Idk just seems simple like that. Doc claims, good report checks. Game is over. And really what if I'm wrong on ls even if this is the 1% he's emulating really well and one ml and a lose I think.
If Damdred is not scum with you this is the point where he should have gone "OK you're right let's kill Palmar".
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Especially since he was thinking this:
On February 13 2017 04:17 Damdred wrote:
That's an interesting swing from malongo. Puts Palmar one from lynch then moved to no lynch.
Idk the whole sequence has me uneasy, like hints that he knows Palmar is red with his little hint hint thing but then instantly backs off because he could be the real dt.
I'm fact the read progression doesn't make any sense, he starts at Palmar has to be the cop over ls because of his bad posts. Gates both checked rels and then bites Palmar and almost iinstantly unvotes.
I can only see mafia motivation in that.
I know you want to lynch Palmar today rels but I think the correct play is to lynch malongo today. Then finish the game with Palmar v ls.
##vote malongo
And as for your early question rels I think it's 99%. And if mal is scum I think their is no doubt it's palmar. So join me on this one.
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On February 14 2017 21:41 Palmar wrote:
Like your argument is "Damdred acts like scum, therefore Palmar must be scum"
It's just.. ?????
- you haven't done anything townie
- LS has done townie things
- if Damdred is scum his interactions with you are way more partner indicative than his interactions with LS
- if ritoky is scum he's with you
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On February 14 2017 21:46 Malongo wrote:I´m here buddy, I`ve read the thread a few times and thinking.
yo. First, agree that if we lynch someone today, it's one of the cops ?
Second, if you disagree with me on Palmar tell me
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