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On February 10 2017 03:55 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 03:49 Silverika wrote:On February 10 2017 03:37 Grackaroni wrote: I think you also said something about me being scum for being open about how I was going to vote, which was actually another argument lifted from Artanis like one page back, which is pretty funny because it reinforces my point. More mudslinging from someone who isn't reading our posts and there was actually more to it than that but since you aren't reading us and don't care, I'm not gonna repeat myself. ~SW I love how anything said against you is mudslinging, and everyone that ever scum reads you is scum in a plot to waver on your alignment because you've been selected for a mission. I would really like to be you for a day.
DONE
BYE
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Next person to take a swipe at sw will be dealing with me.
She will be replacing out if there is another swipe.
End of fucking story
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On February 10 2017 04:44 RtaniSoul wrote: Alright. Vivax, Silverika, Grack, can you link the best scumgames you've ever played? (and with a list of your scumbuddies if it's not obvious in the OP).
Go read the damn links that we already fucking gave.
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On February 10 2017 04:50 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 04:47 Silverika wrote:On February 10 2017 04:44 RtaniSoul wrote: Alright. Vivax, Silverika, Grack, can you link the best scumgames you've ever played? (and with a list of your scumbuddies if it's not obvious in the OP). Go read the damn links that we already fucking gave. Why are you getting upset at this simple request? I asked for the best game you feel you've played, I really don't understand why that would upset you.
Well let's see:
First silver has basicly been shit on by sevral players Second we gave the scum games and then they don't get read Third, both me and silver have no tolatance anymore we expected this game to maybe be a week or two not a god damn month Fourth, nobody has really been trying to narrow anything down and instead turns into this piss fight on how one must play Faith, both me and silver are fucking tired. I'm working overnights and silver is still dealing with radiation for her cancer so we have like no tolarance anymore
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This is just from my pov so if anything seems to be wrong then my fucking bad.
I'm done and I'm logging out for the day. Silver is wanting me to not tear everyone's head off
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On February 10 2017 04:57 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 04:53 Silverika wrote:On February 10 2017 04:50 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 10 2017 04:47 Silverika wrote:On February 10 2017 04:44 RtaniSoul wrote: Alright. Vivax, Silverika, Grack, can you link the best scumgames you've ever played? (and with a list of your scumbuddies if it's not obvious in the OP). Go read the damn links that we already fucking gave. Why are you getting upset at this simple request? I asked for the best game you feel you've played, I really don't understand why that would upset you. Well let's see: First silver has basicly been shit on by sevral players Second we gave the scum games and then they don't get read Third, both me and silver have no tolatance anymore we expected this game to maybe be a week or two not a god damn month Fourth, nobody has really been trying to narrow anything down and instead turns into this piss fight on how one must play Faith, both me and silver are fucking tired. I'm working overnights and silver is still dealing with radiation for her cancer so we have like no tolarance anymore I'm sorry to hear that. I had no idea @RL stuff and hope everything turns out okay. I understand the frustration from how everything appears to be turning into a piss fight. It doesn't feel like the thread has gotten much further, but there's been a few indications from Grack that make me somewhat uneasy with him being the last suspect, so I want to in the case of him not being the spy give him a fair chance and consider everyone else no matter how strong I feel my townreads are on them. I would still appreciate it if you told me which of the three games you felt was your strongest game, and I will actually go through it.
First link monks and masons was our first hydra scum game and I feel was decent considering it was a win for us and our buddy was worthless. The werewolf PT at the end is also where we discussed stuff but we did most of that by text.
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First, sorry for being so bitchy this game.
Second, I don't know what to think of grack being the team leader. He's a spy only by PoE because some things he says make me think I could be wrong.
I'm gonna be busy today so I don't know how much I'll be on.
~SW
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The only person on this team I'm unsure of is Superbia. I've been lax on digging into them but the fact he hasn't been here is a big concern of mine. He hasn't posted anything in days. That bothers me a great deal. If grack is scum, then he's putting a scum teamate on here and doesn't care if he is on it or not then. If he's town, he's trying to get what he feels is an all town team through. Him leaving Vivax off would make sense in that scenario.I want to hear from Superbia. If they don't show up, well then I guess that answers my question as I don't see much town motivation for avoiding the thread for this long.
~SW
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[B]On February 11 2017 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:
I also think Vivax's reaction to me accusing him was very scummy, where he immediately tried to discredit me by looking for any contradiction he could find in my filter.
Isn't that exactly what you did to us?
~SW
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Do you still think they are a pairing? If so, why put Artanisoul on the team?
~SW
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I'm gonna talk to ika about it and see if we want to approve or not.
~SW
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Well if grack is a spy, superbia would be a partner. I'm sticking with my sharkie and Rtani Soul are Town. Ika also doesn't see anything from grack that makes him want to change his mind and call him Town. I do think only one spy was on the mission. I guess sharkie, grack could work but I really don't see it. Ika is going all conspiracy mode on Vivax/grack but I think that is even less likely.
~SW
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Sigh, There are too many people not putting in enough effort for me to read them as town. Like TW, SL, EC, Super are all putting in low effort so I can't tell who the spies are. I agree that grack doesn't look that scummy but either does Vivax and sharkie looks more town than not but there has to be a spy here. So at this point, I can go in circles wondering who it is or I'm just gonna have to make a move and say it's grack. By PoE and because the others are townier. If I'm wrong, then I'll eat crow post game but really, with the apathetic game state, I wouldn't even be too hard on myself if I fucked it all up and grack is town and someone like sharkie is the spy.
So Grack, EC, Super would be my call right now and yeah, I get this is different than what I had before but there it is. This is my guess for the spy team. I hope I'm not wrong on all 3 or I don't even know what to think of this game then.
~SW
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On February 12 2017 08:18 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2017 08:16 Vivax wrote:On February 12 2017 08:13 LightningStrike wrote:On February 12 2017 08:09 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 12 2017 08:08 LightningStrike wrote:On February 12 2017 08:07 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 12 2017 08:06 LightningStrike wrote:On February 12 2017 08:02 RtaniSoul wrote:On February 12 2017 07:54 LightningStrike wrote:On February 12 2017 07:53 RtaniSoul wrote: [quote]
>> you have a good read on me, do you? Ya I usually good at reading you Tina Anyways so who you think should be on this next team and why? lol >< that's really not how i remember it. i remember taking you in often when i roll scum but placing that aside... we're still debating. we get the final say if people can't agree, so we're suffering that wonderful doubt that comes with ultimate power! \o/ that's why i'm prodding at you cause i think i can read you better than most here and it would make our lives infinitely easier we know we want to take silver EC is almost confirmed scum for us super i haven't liked all game grack we just can't trust...like gut and logic says he's the most likely spy who failed the mission that leaves vivax, sharkie, sl and you personally i'm pretty okay with rolling the dice on sl this game based off feels but vivax, sharkie and your slot we've been waffling back and forth on, and lex isn't as comfortable with sl anyway :/ (lex has had sudden doubts on sharkie because grack's activity kinda looks maybe town lol >< i've been going with his read on sharkie because he was so certain on it) You pocketed me with feels and it not like Titanic and Storm ever happened >.> Anyways fair enough once you two can agree on a team please post it Tina? <3 >> those are not recent games my friiiiend -rsoul ego has been engaged!- You haven't played a game in a long time Tina that's why >.> shhh lies lol >< what team would you put up? Myself, Vivax, Superbia, and You/Lex. I know my alignment. Vivax looks townie to me. Superbia looks okay and would willing to test to see if the mission gets sabotaged by him. Same thing about you/Lex although your waffling is starting to be a bit townish for you Tina? Lacks Swika, I don't like it Forgot he was even in the game..... Will check his filter as soon as possible.
Puh leeze, we are one of the most active players in this game and the fact that you threw a team together without even reading us is very, very odd.
I wouldn't put a list of people together replacing into a game until I read them all. I see you changed your mind later but this is still a red flag.
~SW
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I definitely don't think grack and sharkie are spies together or vivax and sharkie. I believe the only thing that makes sense is there was one spy on the mission of 4. It's true grack puts out townie posts and so does vivax. Sharkie and Rtanisoul are just town. EC is scum like I've said and I'm fine with these reads. I think grack looks worse than vivax for his reaction to us scumreading him where he picked out selective things in our filter to throw in our face and then said he would not vote for a team with us in it after hard townreading us all game. Then later changed his mind because we got mad at him for scumreading us but really, we've been that way with anyone scumreading us so this isn't like it's news or something. Vivax putting forward an all town team in the hopes that the next one we choose would have a spy on it is pretty risky if he's a spy and arguable not playing to wincon. It may be WIFOM but it's a pretty strong point.
So I have no choice but to say it's grack which means superbia is also a spy for being chosen by grack and the others he chose are townreads.
So it would be grack, EC, superbia.
Hell, even when I called out EC for being blendy and not getting involved in any of the real discussions and just making bland comments-he said it wasn't true but that's about all he did to defend himself when they rest of us were raging out at each other when accused.
Also, I feel like I'm saying the same thing over and over so I'll shut up about this unless I have something new to add, LOL.
~SW
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If you put SL in, in place of you, I'd be willing to give him a chance.
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On February 13 2017 06:04 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2017 07:54 sicklucker wrote: i think the point of whos scum between grack and sharkie is mute anyway. I think we can easily pass all missions without including them if we avoid a sleeper agent Here comes the sleeper agent.
So is this another signal from you how to vote? Is sl scum to you then?
~SW
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I think the fact that this team was unanimously rejected last time, means it's more likely to be all town than not.
I agree, as do we all that EC is a spy. His blendy play, taking no hard stances, not being here, being very robotic compared to the rest of us-pretty much confirms it.
I have rtanisoul as my highest townread. I actually like that Superbia took himself off the team and put forward our suggestion, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as I am SL. Let's see the mission outcome but they look o.k.
Sharkie is still a townread but it's less because he's so stuck in his ways, he has no interest in re-evaluating his reads. Him reading Vivax as scum for changing reads doesn't make sense. He has to gauge the motivation for those changes or see if the thought process makes sense. Town change their mind all the time.
grack is likely spy on the failed mission with an outside possibility of sharkie.
TW/LS is a slot I can't read for shit but I don't like that they replaced and are doing even less than TW was.
So scum is in grack, sharkie, EC, TW in my opinion.
My points on Vivax potentially game throwing if a spy still stands and he's not a fit with either sharkie or grack either.
~SW
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EC voting against makes me feel better about the team. However, Vivax voting against worries me that if he's a spy who failed it, he's setting us up to take the fall when a failure would confirm him as a spy to us and we'd expect him to blame us. With the vote against, when he's not scumreading anyone on it, and him saying if it fails it's us, being the perfect setup and the perfect way to marginalize heavily townread players. I'm really bothered now but on the other hand, the game sitting here in such a stagnate state for too much longer would not be good. Still really bothered by Vivax no. I'd feel a lot better if it was a yes. If Vivax is spy, sharkie and grack would be Town. Let's just hope I'm being paranoid.
~SW
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Grack, every time I think you might be Town and I might be wrong about Vivax, you post something scummy. Saying we are manipulating people's emotions as a spy is about as low as it gets. I don't use RL or emotionally manipulate people as scum. It goes against my ethical and moral beliefs. If I want to win as scum in a game, there's other ways to do it. You don't want to deal with spy reading us, because we might get angry even though earlier you said that would make us resistance? At least try to be consistent. I also apologized earlier for being bitchy this game so I have no idea why you want to start more shit. Drunk or not there's no excuse for it.
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