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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
February 01 2017 19:56 GMT
#647
1/7 the dream
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#686
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February 02 2017 12:18 GMT
#696
I don't really understand why rtani is scum reading me so much for wanting me to value their opinion over mine. Sharkie seemingly has a bone to pick with me for reasons which seem pretty nebulous and won't answer any questions of mine lol. sharkie/ika/grack is OK for same reasons that tumble could replace sharkie.

I dunno I think we should just do vivax/ika/grack, I feel fairly comfortable with that
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emperorchampion
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February 02 2017 12:55 GMT
#698
On February 02 2017 21:32 RtaniSoul wrote:
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On February 02 2017 21:18 emperorchampion wrote:
I don't really understand why rtani is scum reading me so much for wanting me to value their opinion over mine. Sharkie seemingly has a bone to pick with me for reasons which seem pretty nebulous and won't answer any questions of mine lol. sharkie/ika/grack is OK for same reasons that tumble could replace sharkie.

I dunno I think we should just do vivax/ika/grack, I feel fairly comfortable with that

Can you tell me what happened that caused these doubts
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On February 01 2017 04:48 emperorchampion wrote:
I'm mostly worried since tumble and super aren't in thread and there's like 2 hrs till deadline.

On both Super who didn't post anything of substance and Tumble who didn't post anything whilst Grack posted good shit like
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On February 01 2017 05:43 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't want to be too WIFOMy so I'll break this up into 3 possible scenarios and you can choose which one you think is the most likely scenario.

Either:

1) Silver/Super/Tumblewood are all town. The 3 people who are most in favor of the Super/Tumble/Silver team are also town. (1st choice given by Vivax/EC/Artisoul). In this scenario the game is basically solved. The scum team is Me/Sharkie/Sicklucker and we completely flopped, while the entire town was able to effectively coalesce around a town team.

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On January 31 2017 18:13 RtaniSoul wrote:
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On January 31 2017 17:26 emperorchampion wrote:
This game is cold as ice lol, I've been following along and I think i want to start with this team:

##nominate: emperorchampion grackattack superbia cause they are known to be cool people.

Could you replace superbia with sicklucker? Then we can make our no more emphatic ^^

On February 01 2017 00:05 RtaniSoul wrote:
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On January 31 2017 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:
On January 31 2017 21:54 Silverika wrote:
On January 31 2017 18:50 emperorchampion wrote:
On January 31 2017 18:48 Silverika wrote:
On January 31 2017 18:02 emperorchampion wrote:
Based on my probability estimates this team has a 105% chance of being approved, so let's gogogogo


Nope


Care to elaborate?


I think you should read up since we've discussed it already. Particularly the part where TW came into the game, cast shade on everyone in the original group, and then put up a new one with "this looks right."

You come into the thread, in a spot no one can read because Calix didn't do anything, and immediately put up a team without any discussion or any sort of posting that would allow us to read you or any sort of reasoning for the team you picked. I mean you gave a couple reasons on Grack but they weren't really that good.

And so far you've just been floating around not doing anything complaining the game is dead.

~SilverWolf77


The issue for me is that I was dropped in as leader at the same time as replacement, it was my excitement to get going! I prefer to give team first and discuss afterwards since I think it's the best way to find a mutually agreeable team.

That was just my feeling following the game since I'm used to more active mafia games
On January 31 2017 22:14 Silverika wrote:
On January 31 2017 17:59 emperorchampion wrote:
Cause grack's a bro:

Scum hunting:
On January 28 2017 09:35 Grackaroni wrote:
I liked his confident (and correct) put down of Vivax's leader logic.
On January 28 2017 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
can't even give you townie cred for winning an argument against vivax. come on, v, get a real reason to scumread rtani

His follow up also seems genuine to me. If he had entered the thread with that comment as scum, I would have expected him to use that as justification for having more suspicion/uncertainty on Vivax.
On January 28 2017 08:37 Tumblewood wrote:
On January 28 2017 08:07 Vivax wrote:
On January 28 2017 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
can't even give you townie cred for winning an argument against vivax. come on, v, get a real reason to scumread rtani

Reading between the lines this means that you're fine with superbia and swika but not fine with me not being fine with rtanisoul?

no, I think you may be even townier for being this bad but I also politely request you be less bad
also I am just examining super and swika, and rtani to an extent, just now



Town circling:
On January 30 2017 18:22 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 30 2017 18:15 Superbia wrote:
Gracky, who would you put on a team?

I reread through your filter and you actually looked better than I thought.

So I don't know lol. One spot would have to go to Ikawolf.


I put my nomination early cause I'm pretty fine with any of my town reads:
super/silver/grack


Can you explain all these towreads and why in particular you chose to exclude us from your team of the three you townread? Also, you townread three people but then put this post in:

On January 31 2017 20:30 emperorchampion wrote:
tumble/silver/super ?

Basically if the leader puts themselves or not, the question is about who get the more information. Leader putting themselves gives more info to the leader, otherwise gives more info to whoever they put in. So it's a question about who you trust. Not sure I fully trust 2 other people yet though.


So you townread three people and would be o.k. with any of them but get some heat and suddenly it's like, you aren't sure you fully trust two people?


~SilverWolf77


super / you having similar thoughts points towards both being town. Similar aggression and level of involvement I think reinforce. I liked super's interactions with tumble. Gracks town read is lower than between you two.

I prefer to be on the team since I view it like controlling the variables. In this case it's Grack. If it's not going to pass then obviously there's no point in pushing it, so yeah I'm willing to compromise.

Other teams I have in mind are silver/super/tumble, which I saw is already OK for you? Or I think silver/super/vivax is OK.

We will yay-vote silver/super/tumble. Have issues with Vivax though.

On February 01 2017 00:07 RtaniSoul wrote:
Our biggest problem is that we don't want vivax subbing in for tumble. Kinda equal between Super/Vivax.


On January 30 2017 08:46 Vivax wrote:
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On January 30 2017 08:41 Silverika wrote:
On January 30 2017 06:35 sharkie wrote:
Oh god calix is next leader, can we afford that?


This is why I'm kind of annoyed the first one didn't pass. That said, Calix's complete lack of activity is unusual for her as either alignment and if we could get a replacement in, if needed, that would probably help a lot with reading that slot.

~SilverWolf


Would you be fine with superbia/you/tumble?

On January 30 2017 08:47 Vivax wrote:
I'm blatantly advertising this team so we actually get something to pass at some point and if you have issues with any of its members speak up.


On February 01 2017 01:08 emperorchampion wrote:
##UN-nominate: emperorchampion grackattack super
##nominate: super silver tumble

@grack I think I prefer to have super or myself over vivax on the team you mention



2) Super/Tumble/Silver are still town, but in this scenario one of Vivax/Artisoul/EC is secretly hoping that the team does not pass, and they were only in favor of the team to try to appear townie.

*For this scenario I could only really see this being true with mafia! Artisoul. Vivax wanted the Tumble/Super/Silver team early on and EC laid out several different teams that he could have chosen from before settling on Tumble/Super/Silver.

3) At least one of Super/Tumble/Silver is mafia.

I believe that this should be all of the possible scenarios. I think the 3rd one is the most likely. I know my role so I know that 1 isn't possible. But even if I didn't I would be quite surprised if both Sharkie and Sicklucker are mafia.

in the hours leading up to the deadline for the team, yet you refused to swap Super or even Tumble out for Grack despite stating yourself a willingness to do so:
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On February 01 2017 06:42 emperorchampion wrote:
On February 01 2017 06:27 RtaniSoul wrote:
On February 01 2017 06:26 emperorchampion wrote:
@art I don't really see a compelling reason to switch super for grack? makes sense to put both on to me

Sorry this is from mobile


we trust grack more than super if it's all equal to you that shouldn't be an issue, right?


I mean I trust supe more I think lol

Idk where tumble is tho, maybe tumble for grack


Why did you still go with silver/super/tumble instead of subbing one of the latter for Grack?


I mean I pretty much picked the team to see how tumble and super will deal with each, and on the basis of townread on super and silver. So tumble and super not posting at all after that was a bit meh. I still felt like the team was valid for the original reasons though. In addition neither posted in the last cycle, I think super has dropped a bit for me.

In retrospect yeah I maybe should have swapped super -> grack, but part of me is worried why it's such an issue 1hr before the deadline, and not maybe 6hrs ago when I proposed it. Also an issue for me was that I pretty much wasn't actually able to switch the teams since I was busy with irl stuff. So yeah it's pretty annoying to have that happen right before the end of the deadline. In the end I just decided it was better to go with what I had originally thought than swap right then.


Are you still waffly on super? What do you think of neither tumble nor super posting in the last cycle?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
February 02 2017 13:06 GMT
#706
On February 02 2017 21:59 RtaniSoul wrote:
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On February 02 2017 21:55 emperorchampion wrote:
On February 02 2017 21:32 RtaniSoul wrote:
On February 02 2017 21:18 emperorchampion wrote:
I don't really understand why rtani is scum reading me so much for wanting me to value their opinion over mine. Sharkie seemingly has a bone to pick with me for reasons which seem pretty nebulous and won't answer any questions of mine lol. sharkie/ika/grack is OK for same reasons that tumble could replace sharkie.

I dunno I think we should just do vivax/ika/grack, I feel fairly comfortable with that

Can you tell me what happened that caused these doubts
On February 01 2017 04:48 emperorchampion wrote:
I'm mostly worried since tumble and super aren't in thread and there's like 2 hrs till deadline.

On both Super who didn't post anything of substance and Tumble who didn't post anything whilst Grack posted good shit like
On February 01 2017 05:43 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't want to be too WIFOMy so I'll break this up into 3 possible scenarios and you can choose which one you think is the most likely scenario.

Either:

1) Silver/Super/Tumblewood are all town. The 3 people who are most in favor of the Super/Tumble/Silver team are also town. (1st choice given by Vivax/EC/Artisoul). In this scenario the game is basically solved. The scum team is Me/Sharkie/Sicklucker and we completely flopped, while the entire town was able to effectively coalesce around a town team.

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Latest team suggestions
On January 31 2017 18:13 RtaniSoul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2017 17:26 emperorchampion wrote:
This game is cold as ice lol, I've been following along and I think i want to start with this team:

##nominate: emperorchampion grackattack superbia cause they are known to be cool people.

Could you replace superbia with sicklucker? Then we can make our no more emphatic ^^

On February 01 2017 00:05 RtaniSoul wrote:
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On January 31 2017 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:
On January 31 2017 21:54 Silverika wrote:
On January 31 2017 18:50 emperorchampion wrote:
On January 31 2017 18:48 Silverika wrote:
On January 31 2017 18:02 emperorchampion wrote:
Based on my probability estimates this team has a 105% chance of being approved, so let's gogogogo


Nope


Care to elaborate?


I think you should read up since we've discussed it already. Particularly the part where TW came into the game, cast shade on everyone in the original group, and then put up a new one with "this looks right."

You come into the thread, in a spot no one can read because Calix didn't do anything, and immediately put up a team without any discussion or any sort of posting that would allow us to read you or any sort of reasoning for the team you picked. I mean you gave a couple reasons on Grack but they weren't really that good.

And so far you've just been floating around not doing anything complaining the game is dead.

~SilverWolf77


The issue for me is that I was dropped in as leader at the same time as replacement, it was my excitement to get going! I prefer to give team first and discuss afterwards since I think it's the best way to find a mutually agreeable team.

That was just my feeling following the game since I'm used to more active mafia games
On January 31 2017 22:14 Silverika wrote:
On January 31 2017 17:59 emperorchampion wrote:
Cause grack's a bro:

Scum hunting:
On January 28 2017 09:35 Grackaroni wrote:
I liked his confident (and correct) put down of Vivax's leader logic.
On January 28 2017 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
can't even give you townie cred for winning an argument against vivax. come on, v, get a real reason to scumread rtani

His follow up also seems genuine to me. If he had entered the thread with that comment as scum, I would have expected him to use that as justification for having more suspicion/uncertainty on Vivax.
On January 28 2017 08:37 Tumblewood wrote:
On January 28 2017 08:07 Vivax wrote:
On January 28 2017 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:
can't even give you townie cred for winning an argument against vivax. come on, v, get a real reason to scumread rtani

Reading between the lines this means that you're fine with superbia and swika but not fine with me not being fine with rtanisoul?

no, I think you may be even townier for being this bad but I also politely request you be less bad
also I am just examining super and swika, and rtani to an extent, just now



Town circling:
On January 30 2017 18:22 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 30 2017 18:15 Superbia wrote:
Gracky, who would you put on a team?

I reread through your filter and you actually looked better than I thought.

So I don't know lol. One spot would have to go to Ikawolf.


I put my nomination early cause I'm pretty fine with any of my town reads:
super/silver/grack


Can you explain all these towreads and why in particular you chose to exclude us from your team of the three you townread? Also, you townread three people but then put this post in:

On January 31 2017 20:30 emperorchampion wrote:
tumble/silver/super ?

Basically if the leader puts themselves or not, the question is about who get the more information. Leader putting themselves gives more info to the leader, otherwise gives more info to whoever they put in. So it's a question about who you trust. Not sure I fully trust 2 other people yet though.


So you townread three people and would be o.k. with any of them but get some heat and suddenly it's like, you aren't sure you fully trust two people?


~SilverWolf77


super / you having similar thoughts points towards both being town. Similar aggression and level of involvement I think reinforce. I liked super's interactions with tumble. Gracks town read is lower than between you two.

I prefer to be on the team since I view it like controlling the variables. In this case it's Grack. If it's not going to pass then obviously there's no point in pushing it, so yeah I'm willing to compromise.

Other teams I have in mind are silver/super/tumble, which I saw is already OK for you? Or I think silver/super/vivax is OK.

We will yay-vote silver/super/tumble. Have issues with Vivax though.

On February 01 2017 00:07 RtaniSoul wrote:
Our biggest problem is that we don't want vivax subbing in for tumble. Kinda equal between Super/Vivax.


On January 30 2017 08:46 Vivax wrote:
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On January 30 2017 08:41 Silverika wrote:
On January 30 2017 06:35 sharkie wrote:
Oh god calix is next leader, can we afford that?


This is why I'm kind of annoyed the first one didn't pass. That said, Calix's complete lack of activity is unusual for her as either alignment and if we could get a replacement in, if needed, that would probably help a lot with reading that slot.

~SilverWolf


Would you be fine with superbia/you/tumble?

On January 30 2017 08:47 Vivax wrote:
I'm blatantly advertising this team so we actually get something to pass at some point and if you have issues with any of its members speak up.


On February 01 2017 01:08 emperorchampion wrote:
##UN-nominate: emperorchampion grackattack super
##nominate: super silver tumble

@grack I think I prefer to have super or myself over vivax on the team you mention



2) Super/Tumble/Silver are still town, but in this scenario one of Vivax/Artisoul/EC is secretly hoping that the team does not pass, and they were only in favor of the team to try to appear townie.

*For this scenario I could only really see this being true with mafia! Artisoul. Vivax wanted the Tumble/Super/Silver team early on and EC laid out several different teams that he could have chosen from before settling on Tumble/Super/Silver.

3) At least one of Super/Tumble/Silver is mafia.

I believe that this should be all of the possible scenarios. I think the 3rd one is the most likely. I know my role so I know that 1 isn't possible. But even if I didn't I would be quite surprised if both Sharkie and Sicklucker are mafia.

in the hours leading up to the deadline for the team, yet you refused to swap Super or even Tumble out for Grack despite stating yourself a willingness to do so:
On February 01 2017 06:42 emperorchampion wrote:
On February 01 2017 06:27 RtaniSoul wrote:
On February 01 2017 06:26 emperorchampion wrote:
@art I don't really see a compelling reason to switch super for grack? makes sense to put both on to me

Sorry this is from mobile


we trust grack more than super if it's all equal to you that shouldn't be an issue, right?


I mean I trust supe more I think lol

Idk where tumble is tho, maybe tumble for grack


Why did you still go with silver/super/tumble instead of subbing one of the latter for Grack?


I mean I pretty much picked the team to see how tumble and super will deal with each, and on the basis of townread on super and silver. So tumble and super not posting at all after that was a bit meh. I still felt like the team was valid for the original reasons though. In addition neither posted in the last cycle, I think super has dropped a bit for me.

In retrospect yeah I maybe should have swapped super -> grack, but part of me is worried why it's such an issue 1hr before the deadline, and not maybe 6hrs ago when I proposed it. Also an issue for me was that I pretty much wasn't actually able to switch the teams since I was busy with irl stuff. So yeah it's pretty annoying to have that happen right before the end of the deadline. In the end I just decided it was better to go with what I had originally thought than swap right then.


Are you still waffly on super? What do you think of neither tumble nor super posting in the last cycle?

If you picked the team to see how tumble and super dealt with each other, and then they didn't deal with each other at all during that phase, why did you stick with it?


Yeah that was arguably stupid, and probably a large part of why the team got voted down lol. I guess I was hoping for better in the next phase.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
February 02 2017 22:41 GMT
#739
Fickin rofl
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emperorchampion
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Canada9496 Posts
February 03 2017 15:03 GMT
#756
On February 03 2017 15:01 Vivax wrote:
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On February 03 2017 12:48 Tumblewood wrote:
in other news vivax probably town for being so insistent on not adding himself to his team. 'principled' is not a word I'd use to describe scum


You see, it also forces spies to add one of their mates to the team.

Which is another step in making bussing in this setup suicidal.


I think it's an OK philosophy for this mission, but for higher people missions I'm not sure it's good. Maaybe OK for the mission that requires 2 fails to fail, but otherwise we're risking since the leader will have to add only resistance, and doesn't have any wiggle room.

That said I really wish that you would have added yourself vivax over sharkie on this mission.


@Silver what team do you have in mind at the moment?


I'm thinking of up-yay'ing vivax's team based on silver and grack. A lot of people town-reading sharkie lately which I can't hop on, given his read on me and constant refusal to answer any questions that I've posted in this thread.


Tumble not sure on, have to go back and look at interactions between silver/tumble/super. I'm getting tin-foilly over a rtani/sharkie team. Think super/grack are OK for now, hopefully they will post more this cycle. Vivax looking good to me right now.

sl I need to figure out, his townread on grack feels a little opportunistic given the timing and the momentum in the thread at that time. I think the interactions that he had with me otherwise are fine.

@sl 2 questions: where does your initial town read on me come from?
how do you feel about tumble right now?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
February 03 2017 15:07 GMT
#757
On February 03 2017 23:11 sharkie wrote:
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On February 03 2017 23:04 Silverika wrote:
On February 03 2017 19:04 sharkie wrote:
On February 03 2017 17:47 Silverika wrote:
I am uneasy about how sharkie started out acting as though he barely even knew what scum meant and basically making a lot of comments like he didn't know what he was doing. Later his post suddenly get a lot better with more analysis. Plus we didn't care for chairman ray either. It's kind of an uneasy feeling based on inconsistent play. I'm gonna talk to ika about Tumblewood cuz he said he wasn't sure he trusted them and let him comment on that. I know I had some issues earlier but they've fallen off the radar lately.

~SilverWolf77


I still only know half of the words you use to describe things.
I've played "The resistance" the board game and there no things such as scum or townread appear...


Have you ever played mafia before? I'm trying to decide if you are just new to the game or being clever trying to make us think you are because your later posting looks more experienced. Even your post giving advice to us looks like a seasoned player. On other sites, I've seen scum do this if the player base doesn't know them because people write it off as new Town so that's why I'm paranoid.

~SilverWolf77


No, I have never played Mafia. Well like I said I have played resistance before. When I get more information I can say more. But for the very first nomination you can't say anything and so I went with gut feeling and I still feel very good about 2/3 of that team. Most of the others probably regret a lot that they rejected RT's team anyway..

But since I have played resistance before I still don't see how spies or resistance can ever claim credit for voting of a successful team (which a few of you claimed I was doing). I am still waiting for that answer: how can a person ever claim credit for voting a successful team?


By saying: I thought that this team would pass, that's why I voted for them. Because I was right about that, this is why you should think I'm town / listen to my opinion right now...

It's basically about building up your reputation
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
February 03 2017 15:18 GMT
#758
On February 03 2017 23:04 Silverika wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2017 19:04 sharkie wrote:
On February 03 2017 17:47 Silverika wrote:
I am uneasy about how sharkie started out acting as though he barely even knew what scum meant and basically making a lot of comments like he didn't know what he was doing. Later his post suddenly get a lot better with more analysis. Plus we didn't care for chairman ray either. It's kind of an uneasy feeling based on inconsistent play. I'm gonna talk to ika about Tumblewood cuz he said he wasn't sure he trusted them and let him comment on that. I know I had some issues earlier but they've fallen off the radar lately.

~SilverWolf77


I still only know half of the words you use to describe things.
I've played "The resistance" the board game and there no things such as scum or townread appear...


Have you ever played mafia before? I'm trying to decide if you are just new to the game or being clever trying to make us think you are because your later posting looks more experienced. Even your post giving advice to us looks like a seasoned player. On other sites, I've seen scum do this if the player base doesn't know them because people write it off as new Town so that's why I'm paranoid.

~SilverWolf77


Hmm good point on this.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
February 03 2017 16:33 GMT
#769
On February 04 2017 01:32 Vivax wrote:
Yeh it looks like you only thought of two spies while knowing you're the third lul.

Are scumslips real? Don't miss the resistance edition.

Vivax turning the screws
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February 04 2017 17:36 GMT
#828
On February 05 2017 00:22 RtaniSoul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2017 19:14 RtaniSoul wrote:
On February 02 2017 19:06 Vivax wrote:
I don't see anything wrong with what emc did he came into the thread yolo nominated a team, then readjusted it based on feedback. Nothing wrong with not being stubborn especially when he just came in as replacement.

Anyway this isn't just about the team I want but about the team that most of town can agree on.

TW, SL are staying out of it. That's not questionable atm.

Me, Grack, ika sounds tempting but includes me and that goes against my philosophy and I don't want to spend time arguing why I'm resistance anyway. Others can do that when they feel like noming me.

Grack, ika, super looks viable to me atm. Still paranoid of rtanisoul.

Even you shouldn't be able to ignore how Superbia and TW looked pretty awful near the end of the day and EC went
On February 01 2017 06:46 emperorchampion wrote:
Mm I think I just stick with original + I'm peacing soon

I feel good about this team :D and I encourage y'all to vote yay!!

Which sounds pretty godawful to me.

Also why are you paranoid about us? Any reasons or just standard Vivax tinfoil?


oh, this. yeah...lol >< reading comprehension is still difficult for people. lex was saying that EC WAS stubborn, where you were arguing that he wasn't...tumble's been progressively dropping in our reads. not sure how that is 'sketchy' for you, but whatevs we still think this will pass, so y'all can tinfoil about all willy nilly if you like

lex would like to add he still doesn't see a tumble/super scum team when they had the opportunity others provided to townread each other, and he still feels super is scum. strongest scum for lex. i'll let him explain it cause he's now using me as a secretary -_-

^ agree super more likely scum than tumble, easily

^ still keeping sl as my most scummy >> mostly to annoy lex >> and now i'll remind lex i had super as scum before him >> for post-game cred when both turn out to be scum \o/

@.@ i'm literally getting hit with a stick right now


I still don't fully understand how stubborn = scum, but w/e.

I'm pretty surprised that no one else voted down the mission apart from super. sl voting pass is pretty lulz

Pass or fail I'd eat my shorts if there isn't one scum on that team. No way any tinfoil team is baby sealing at this point in the game. Pretty much that would mean it's super/tumble/sl which is quite unlikely to me.
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February 04 2017 18:58 GMT
#830
On February 05 2017 03:00 Silverika wrote:
Baby sealing?

By that I mean giving up
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February 05 2017 12:17 GMT
#890
Izi 1 pass lol

Super's posts are a little weird but I feel good for being pretty much at the same place as me.

Vivacious and silver look pretty solid. I think these 3 + me is my top team right now
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February 05 2017 12:35 GMT
#892
On February 05 2017 19:15 sharkie wrote:
Yay the mission passed! So this pretty much mean confirms that Grack and silver are resistance as they could have put the whole blame on me if they had been spies. This was also the aim of my post where I said that the spies had a win/win situation to further encourage a spy to sabotage the mission. So in my view both silver and Grack confirmed 100% resistance.

On the selection of the 4th team member for the next team I'd rather want RTani on the team than Vivax. I trust him more and imo he has also done more for the play so he feels more resistance for me. Vivax is still a little weird for me as he has been accepted resistance too easily by too many people (so including spies) and I did not like that he did not send himself to the mission as I am a player who always sends himself to a mission - anyone who doesn't is kinda shady in my eyes.

Also EC/Super are confirmed spies for me now as they did not like the passed mission.


1. This + vivacious logic is pretty solid I think on grack/silver so bump up to grack there

2. You were on vivax team, why would you approve if you feel weird about him not including himself?
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February 06 2017 16:58 GMT
#950
On February 07 2017 01:36 Superbia wrote:
Or you could just tell me why you voted on a team which had your scumread on it.


Who are you talking to here?
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February 06 2017 17:01 GMT
#951
On February 07 2017 01:58 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2017 01:36 Superbia wrote:
Or you could just tell me why you voted on a team which had your scumread on it.


Who are you talking to here?


nvm, but yeah the answer is out there...
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February 06 2017 17:16 GMT
#953
Without going to filter dive, something along the lines of: "townread on super, if fails look at tumble as potential scum; also provides some votes to go on for the future / get some action".
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February 06 2017 17:46 GMT
#959
On February 07 2017 02:35 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2017 02:16 emperorchampion wrote:
Without going to filter dive, something along the lines of: "townread on super, if fails look at tumble as potential scum; also provides some votes to go on for the future / get some action".


Even if this is true it's stll pretty shady. Like why did yeam 4 get so many votes compared to prev team. Either you must belive ec and I are strictly mafia together (hint no), at least two mafia all of a sudden decided to vote yes on an all town team, or team contains mafia.

Get your head out of your ass people.


I mean this is pretty much why I don't see you as mafia. Here's a grack style list:

1) all town team

a) super is town: that means that all 3 scum voted for all town team...
b) super is maf: that means that super breaks rank vs other scum, who are still voting for all town team

2) at least 1 scum in team:

a) super is town: most logical in my view, all 3 scum vote for team with at least 1 scum on it
b) super is maf: possible, but mafia want team to pass

At least 1 scum in the team is weird tho given the mission success, I'm tossing around the idea of 2 scum in the team, but idk.
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February 06 2017 17:50 GMT
#960
On February 07 2017 02:27 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2017 02:16 emperorchampion wrote:
Without going to filter dive, something along the lines of: "townread on super, if fails look at tumble as potential scum; also provides some votes to go on for the future / get some action".

I have a pretty strong feeling that Tumblewood is scum already as it is.


Yeah that's pretty much why I ended up deciding to fail vote 4, at the end I realized that it's probably not optimal to pass someone you think is scum, despite any information you might "gain".
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Canada9496 Posts
February 06 2017 18:00 GMT
#967
On February 07 2017 02:52 Superbia wrote:
I don't necessarily think you're town EC lol

Where you at bruh?
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