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It looks like all the active people have similar opinions so consolidation shouldn't be a problem.
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On January 08 2017 03:09 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 02:57 Grackaroni wrote:On January 08 2017 02:14 Calix wrote:On January 08 2017 02:08 ika42 wrote:On January 07 2017 21:58 Calix wrote:On January 07 2017 10:09 ika42 wrote:On January 07 2017 10:02 ika42 wrote:
so now that im caught up heres my read list that i have compiled
1) reps)squishy - sligth town
2) Kmatt - slight town
3) MichaelEhrmantraut - lean scum
4) ika42 -town
5) SilverWolf77 - town
6) B0stonSC - -null
Vets
1) beentheredonethat - null
2) Grackaroni- null
3) KelsierSC - scum
4) Onegu - claims VT
5) darthfoley - town lean
6) Calix -null
7) Vivax - scum lean
i have way too many nulls for my liking overall. updated after running iso on the newbs im gonna get food bbl Why is Boston a null to you? Speaking more generally to you and DF, what's the rationale behind voting for KSC? I found DF's post to be interesting as an observation but I wouldn't vote for KSC based on that. Meanwhile I'm not seeing why you think KSC is scum or much talk about him from you. You call out Grack for not trying to convince people to lynch his scum-reads but you're being unclear with your KSC scum-read also. I think KSC's wagon is the most pure atm so pls explain where you're coming from in more detail. On January 07 2017 10:59 Grackaroni wrote:
Ika please prove to me that you are not scum. As for the Grack thing, this was the initial response. Another example of snarky responses to reasonable questions. I fail to see town motivation for being stubborn for the sake of it when it comes to explaining a town-read that nobody agrees with. He later claims that he thinks the entire thing is stupid but given that he helped fuel the argument into a 5-page fiasco, that reasoning looks fake to me. People who think things are stupid don't continue to focus on the stupid thing when they could spend their time better on something more productive or just leave the thread. On January 07 2017 11:21 Grackaroni wrote:On January 07 2017 11:19 ika42 wrote:On January 07 2017 11:05 Grackaroni wrote:
Which of your posts are townie? Can you tell me why they are townie? Love the avoiding of my question and instead deflect it back to me. It goes straight to the heart of the question. If you cannot quote some posts to prove yourself town to me then surely I cannot do so to convince you that Vivax is town I've already given an answer that I find satisfactory. I like the effort he's putting into the game. I like the angles that he's pushing. I like his attitude and response to being pressured. Grack's later argument here, which I am inferring to be that explaining town-reads is pointless because it won't convince people, would be fine taken by itself. However when I look at his filter, it doesn't fit. Firstly, his filter has a load of town-reads in it and few scum-reads (and the two scum-reads he has suck because they don't show actual scum motivation). If he doesn't think that explaining town-reads will convince people then why would he spend so much time posting about them? Secondly, what's the point of saying "I'll explain my read once you've explained your town-read on SW" when he doesn't think that he can convince people of his read anyway and doesn't scum-read SW? Poor priorities at best, busywork at worst. Given everything else, I don't think he really believes what he's posting here. Thirdly, his filter is a lot worse than I thought it was going to be. Most of it is devoted to the argument and his posts before that were weak town-reads and off-topic posts which don't do anything. I would vote for him over Vivax since Vivax was at least pushing the game forward when he was here while Grack hasn't. As for Boston, my reads here still apply so I'd like people to talk about him more before he comes back as the Grack argument sucked the air out of the room in terms of discussion focus. + Show Spoiler +On January 06 2017 15:53 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 11:48 B0stonSC wrote:
Hello! Sorry, hadn't realized this has started. Let me read through everything, and then I'll post thoughts This post pings me but I can't really figure out why. Like he posts this 2-4 hours-ish into the game and starts off by apologising for not being around here earlier which is pretty weird for town to do. I can't imagine myself saying sorry for something as a first post kind of deal so I don't get why he would is what I'm getting at. On January 07 2017 07:28 Calix wrote:
Boston is just in his own little world, detached from the thread and floating by without a single fuck given for all the other stuff going on. His entrance was terrible and his follow-up just reinforces my read. He is too hung up on a player who hasn't DONE anything and is relatively inactive with no reason given and doesn't talk about anything else. Furthermore, he's not actually following through on his Onegu read or vote with anything substantial or trying to convince people or caring much. He's just there.
If we're going for someone low-activity then this is the most likely to hit scum atm.
##vote B0stonSC I said it earlier on why i scum read him. I dunno the post but what pinged me off was the bolded On January 06 2017 10:59 KelsierSC wrote:On January 06 2017 10:57 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 06 2017 10:55 KelsierSC wrote:
so how you reading ika atm? Slight townread based on posting the questions to get us talking and his activity and interest in the game so far. But he may be just copying his town meta so I'm keeping an eye on him still. yeh...like if i was you that is what I would be thinking if I was town. i have to go into work tomorrow unfortunately but only for like 1hr so should be on tomorrow. I know it seems like i've just been jerking off in the thread, and whilst this is true I think Calix, silver and ika are probably town and everyone else is kind of blegh. Grak is mafia though, im pretty happy with my vote at the moment. he gives implications that he himself is not town when referring to it in general. bost i had as town at first but then saw it was the one you were gut reading and i agreed on and after running an iso, i would vote it in a heatbeat becasue of the over abundance of excuses. Silverwolf does this a lot as scum and i have seen countless games of this crap done by scum Good catch with KSC. I hesitate to call it a scum slip (as most of those tend to be wrong FME) but it shows a detached mentality for sure. What do you mean about a detached mentality Calix? The way he phrased his opinion with "if I was town" is detached is what I mean there. Seems like a cold observation more than an opinion in terms of tone, if that makes sense.
He said that that's what he would be thinking if he was ika, and then he added the if I was town i.e. if ika was town.
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On January 08 2017 03:12 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 03:09 Calix wrote:On January 08 2017 02:57 Grackaroni wrote:On January 08 2017 02:14 Calix wrote:On January 08 2017 02:08 ika42 wrote:On January 07 2017 21:58 Calix wrote:On January 07 2017 10:09 ika42 wrote:On January 07 2017 10:02 ika42 wrote:
so now that im caught up heres my read list that i have compiled
1) reps)squishy - sligth town
2) Kmatt - slight town
3) MichaelEhrmantraut - lean scum
4) ika42 -town
5) SilverWolf77 - town
6) B0stonSC - -null
Vets
1) beentheredonethat - null
2) Grackaroni- null
3) KelsierSC - scum
4) Onegu - claims VT
5) darthfoley - town lean
6) Calix -null
7) Vivax - scum lean
i have way too many nulls for my liking overall. updated after running iso on the newbs im gonna get food bbl Why is Boston a null to you? Speaking more generally to you and DF, what's the rationale behind voting for KSC? I found DF's post to be interesting as an observation but I wouldn't vote for KSC based on that. Meanwhile I'm not seeing why you think KSC is scum or much talk about him from you. You call out Grack for not trying to convince people to lynch his scum-reads but you're being unclear with your KSC scum-read also. I think KSC's wagon is the most pure atm so pls explain where you're coming from in more detail. On January 07 2017 10:59 Grackaroni wrote:
Ika please prove to me that you are not scum. As for the Grack thing, this was the initial response. Another example of snarky responses to reasonable questions. I fail to see town motivation for being stubborn for the sake of it when it comes to explaining a town-read that nobody agrees with. He later claims that he thinks the entire thing is stupid but given that he helped fuel the argument into a 5-page fiasco, that reasoning looks fake to me. People who think things are stupid don't continue to focus on the stupid thing when they could spend their time better on something more productive or just leave the thread. On January 07 2017 11:21 Grackaroni wrote:On January 07 2017 11:19 ika42 wrote:On January 07 2017 11:05 Grackaroni wrote:
Which of your posts are townie? Can you tell me why they are townie? Love the avoiding of my question and instead deflect it back to me. It goes straight to the heart of the question. If you cannot quote some posts to prove yourself town to me then surely I cannot do so to convince you that Vivax is town I've already given an answer that I find satisfactory. I like the effort he's putting into the game. I like the angles that he's pushing. I like his attitude and response to being pressured. Grack's later argument here, which I am inferring to be that explaining town-reads is pointless because it won't convince people, would be fine taken by itself. However when I look at his filter, it doesn't fit. Firstly, his filter has a load of town-reads in it and few scum-reads (and the two scum-reads he has suck because they don't show actual scum motivation). If he doesn't think that explaining town-reads will convince people then why would he spend so much time posting about them? Secondly, what's the point of saying "I'll explain my read once you've explained your town-read on SW" when he doesn't think that he can convince people of his read anyway and doesn't scum-read SW? Poor priorities at best, busywork at worst. Given everything else, I don't think he really believes what he's posting here. Thirdly, his filter is a lot worse than I thought it was going to be. Most of it is devoted to the argument and his posts before that were weak town-reads and off-topic posts which don't do anything. I would vote for him over Vivax since Vivax was at least pushing the game forward when he was here while Grack hasn't. As for Boston, my reads here still apply so I'd like people to talk about him more before he comes back as the Grack argument sucked the air out of the room in terms of discussion focus. + Show Spoiler +On January 06 2017 15:53 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 11:48 B0stonSC wrote:
Hello! Sorry, hadn't realized this has started. Let me read through everything, and then I'll post thoughts This post pings me but I can't really figure out why. Like he posts this 2-4 hours-ish into the game and starts off by apologising for not being around here earlier which is pretty weird for town to do. I can't imagine myself saying sorry for something as a first post kind of deal so I don't get why he would is what I'm getting at. On January 07 2017 07:28 Calix wrote:
Boston is just in his own little world, detached from the thread and floating by without a single fuck given for all the other stuff going on. His entrance was terrible and his follow-up just reinforces my read. He is too hung up on a player who hasn't DONE anything and is relatively inactive with no reason given and doesn't talk about anything else. Furthermore, he's not actually following through on his Onegu read or vote with anything substantial or trying to convince people or caring much. He's just there.
If we're going for someone low-activity then this is the most likely to hit scum atm.
##vote B0stonSC I said it earlier on why i scum read him. I dunno the post but what pinged me off was the bolded On January 06 2017 10:59 KelsierSC wrote:On January 06 2017 10:57 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 06 2017 10:55 KelsierSC wrote:
so how you reading ika atm? Slight townread based on posting the questions to get us talking and his activity and interest in the game so far. But he may be just copying his town meta so I'm keeping an eye on him still. yeh...like if i was you that is what I would be thinking if I was town. i have to go into work tomorrow unfortunately but only for like 1hr so should be on tomorrow. I know it seems like i've just been jerking off in the thread, and whilst this is true I think Calix, silver and ika are probably town and everyone else is kind of blegh. Grak is mafia though, im pretty happy with my vote at the moment. he gives implications that he himself is not town when referring to it in general. bost i had as town at first but then saw it was the one you were gut reading and i agreed on and after running an iso, i would vote it in a heatbeat becasue of the over abundance of excuses. Silverwolf does this a lot as scum and i have seen countless games of this crap done by scum Good catch with KSC. I hesitate to call it a scum slip (as most of those tend to be wrong FME) but it shows a detached mentality for sure. What do you mean about a detached mentality Calix? The way he phrased his opinion with "if I was town" is detached is what I mean there. Seems like a cold observation more than an opinion in terms of tone, if that makes sense. He said that that's what he would be thinking if he was ika, and then he added the if I was town i.e. if ika was town.
What? KSC says "if I was town" which is using the first person - how does that refer to ika?
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Sorry, back with a hungover, had my postponed bday party yesterday.
I don't think we should lynch Grack today, but I'm going to take a look at the arguments against him.
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On January 08 2017 03:15 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 03:12 Grackaroni wrote:On January 08 2017 03:09 Calix wrote:On January 08 2017 02:57 Grackaroni wrote:On January 08 2017 02:14 Calix wrote:On January 08 2017 02:08 ika42 wrote:On January 07 2017 21:58 Calix wrote:On January 07 2017 10:09 ika42 wrote:On January 07 2017 10:02 ika42 wrote:
so now that im caught up heres my read list that i have compiled
1) reps)squishy - sligth town
2) Kmatt - slight town
3) MichaelEhrmantraut - lean scum
4) ika42 -town
5) SilverWolf77 - town
6) B0stonSC - -null
Vets
1) beentheredonethat - null
2) Grackaroni- null
3) KelsierSC - scum
4) Onegu - claims VT
5) darthfoley - town lean
6) Calix -null
7) Vivax - scum lean
i have way too many nulls for my liking overall. updated after running iso on the newbs im gonna get food bbl Why is Boston a null to you? Speaking more generally to you and DF, what's the rationale behind voting for KSC? I found DF's post to be interesting as an observation but I wouldn't vote for KSC based on that. Meanwhile I'm not seeing why you think KSC is scum or much talk about him from you. You call out Grack for not trying to convince people to lynch his scum-reads but you're being unclear with your KSC scum-read also. I think KSC's wagon is the most pure atm so pls explain where you're coming from in more detail. On January 07 2017 10:59 Grackaroni wrote:
Ika please prove to me that you are not scum. As for the Grack thing, this was the initial response. Another example of snarky responses to reasonable questions. I fail to see town motivation for being stubborn for the sake of it when it comes to explaining a town-read that nobody agrees with. He later claims that he thinks the entire thing is stupid but given that he helped fuel the argument into a 5-page fiasco, that reasoning looks fake to me. People who think things are stupid don't continue to focus on the stupid thing when they could spend their time better on something more productive or just leave the thread. On January 07 2017 11:21 Grackaroni wrote:On January 07 2017 11:19 ika42 wrote:On January 07 2017 11:05 Grackaroni wrote:
Which of your posts are townie? Can you tell me why they are townie? Love the avoiding of my question and instead deflect it back to me. It goes straight to the heart of the question. If you cannot quote some posts to prove yourself town to me then surely I cannot do so to convince you that Vivax is town I've already given an answer that I find satisfactory. I like the effort he's putting into the game. I like the angles that he's pushing. I like his attitude and response to being pressured. Grack's later argument here, which I am inferring to be that explaining town-reads is pointless because it won't convince people, would be fine taken by itself. However when I look at his filter, it doesn't fit. Firstly, his filter has a load of town-reads in it and few scum-reads (and the two scum-reads he has suck because they don't show actual scum motivation). If he doesn't think that explaining town-reads will convince people then why would he spend so much time posting about them? Secondly, what's the point of saying "I'll explain my read once you've explained your town-read on SW" when he doesn't think that he can convince people of his read anyway and doesn't scum-read SW? Poor priorities at best, busywork at worst. Given everything else, I don't think he really believes what he's posting here. Thirdly, his filter is a lot worse than I thought it was going to be. Most of it is devoted to the argument and his posts before that were weak town-reads and off-topic posts which don't do anything. I would vote for him over Vivax since Vivax was at least pushing the game forward when he was here while Grack hasn't. As for Boston, my reads here still apply so I'd like people to talk about him more before he comes back as the Grack argument sucked the air out of the room in terms of discussion focus. + Show Spoiler +On January 06 2017 15:53 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 11:48 B0stonSC wrote:
Hello! Sorry, hadn't realized this has started. Let me read through everything, and then I'll post thoughts This post pings me but I can't really figure out why. Like he posts this 2-4 hours-ish into the game and starts off by apologising for not being around here earlier which is pretty weird for town to do. I can't imagine myself saying sorry for something as a first post kind of deal so I don't get why he would is what I'm getting at. On January 07 2017 07:28 Calix wrote:
Boston is just in his own little world, detached from the thread and floating by without a single fuck given for all the other stuff going on. His entrance was terrible and his follow-up just reinforces my read. He is too hung up on a player who hasn't DONE anything and is relatively inactive with no reason given and doesn't talk about anything else. Furthermore, he's not actually following through on his Onegu read or vote with anything substantial or trying to convince people or caring much. He's just there.
If we're going for someone low-activity then this is the most likely to hit scum atm.
##vote B0stonSC I said it earlier on why i scum read him. I dunno the post but what pinged me off was the bolded On January 06 2017 10:59 KelsierSC wrote:On January 06 2017 10:57 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 06 2017 10:55 KelsierSC wrote:
so how you reading ika atm? Slight townread based on posting the questions to get us talking and his activity and interest in the game so far. But he may be just copying his town meta so I'm keeping an eye on him still. yeh...like if i was you that is what I would be thinking if I was town. i have to go into work tomorrow unfortunately but only for like 1hr so should be on tomorrow. I know it seems like i've just been jerking off in the thread, and whilst this is true I think Calix, silver and ika are probably town and everyone else is kind of blegh. Grak is mafia though, im pretty happy with my vote at the moment. he gives implications that he himself is not town when referring to it in general. bost i had as town at first but then saw it was the one you were gut reading and i agreed on and after running an iso, i would vote it in a heatbeat becasue of the over abundance of excuses. Silverwolf does this a lot as scum and i have seen countless games of this crap done by scum Good catch with KSC. I hesitate to call it a scum slip (as most of those tend to be wrong FME) but it shows a detached mentality for sure. What do you mean about a detached mentality Calix? The way he phrased his opinion with "if I was town" is detached is what I mean there. Seems like a cold observation more than an opinion in terms of tone, if that makes sense. He said that that's what he would be thinking if he was ika, and then he added the if I was town i.e. if ika was town. What? KSC says "if I was town" which is using the first person - how does that refer to ika?
"If I was you that's what I would be thinking if I was town"
If he was in ika's shoes and he was town then that is what he would be thinking. The first part of the sentence is the reason why it looks detached or w/e.
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I don't have much time left to figure out this game because I think I will very likely be lynched. I'll try to leave some reads before then.
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On January 08 2017 03:19 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 03:15 Calix wrote:On January 08 2017 03:12 Grackaroni wrote:On January 08 2017 03:09 Calix wrote:On January 08 2017 02:57 Grackaroni wrote:On January 08 2017 02:14 Calix wrote:On January 08 2017 02:08 ika42 wrote:On January 07 2017 21:58 Calix wrote:On January 07 2017 10:09 ika42 wrote:On January 07 2017 10:02 ika42 wrote:
so now that im caught up heres my read list that i have compiled
1) reps)squishy - sligth town
2) Kmatt - slight town
3) MichaelEhrmantraut - lean scum
4) ika42 -town
5) SilverWolf77 - town
6) B0stonSC - -null
Vets
1) beentheredonethat - null
2) Grackaroni- null
3) KelsierSC - scum
4) Onegu - claims VT
5) darthfoley - town lean
6) Calix -null
7) Vivax - scum lean
i have way too many nulls for my liking overall. updated after running iso on the newbs im gonna get food bbl Why is Boston a null to you? Speaking more generally to you and DF, what's the rationale behind voting for KSC? I found DF's post to be interesting as an observation but I wouldn't vote for KSC based on that. Meanwhile I'm not seeing why you think KSC is scum or much talk about him from you. You call out Grack for not trying to convince people to lynch his scum-reads but you're being unclear with your KSC scum-read also. I think KSC's wagon is the most pure atm so pls explain where you're coming from in more detail. On January 07 2017 10:59 Grackaroni wrote:
Ika please prove to me that you are not scum. As for the Grack thing, this was the initial response. Another example of snarky responses to reasonable questions. I fail to see town motivation for being stubborn for the sake of it when it comes to explaining a town-read that nobody agrees with. He later claims that he thinks the entire thing is stupid but given that he helped fuel the argument into a 5-page fiasco, that reasoning looks fake to me. People who think things are stupid don't continue to focus on the stupid thing when they could spend their time better on something more productive or just leave the thread. On January 07 2017 11:21 Grackaroni wrote:On January 07 2017 11:19 ika42 wrote:
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Love the avoiding of my question and instead deflect it back to me. It goes straight to the heart of the question. If you cannot quote some posts to prove yourself town to me then surely I cannot do so to convince you that Vivax is town I've already given an answer that I find satisfactory. I like the effort he's putting into the game. I like the angles that he's pushing. I like his attitude and response to being pressured. Grack's later argument here, which I am inferring to be that explaining town-reads is pointless because it won't convince people, would be fine taken by itself. However when I look at his filter, it doesn't fit. Firstly, his filter has a load of town-reads in it and few scum-reads (and the two scum-reads he has suck because they don't show actual scum motivation). If he doesn't think that explaining town-reads will convince people then why would he spend so much time posting about them? Secondly, what's the point of saying "I'll explain my read once you've explained your town-read on SW" when he doesn't think that he can convince people of his read anyway and doesn't scum-read SW? Poor priorities at best, busywork at worst. Given everything else, I don't think he really believes what he's posting here. Thirdly, his filter is a lot worse than I thought it was going to be. Most of it is devoted to the argument and his posts before that were weak town-reads and off-topic posts which don't do anything. I would vote for him over Vivax since Vivax was at least pushing the game forward when he was here while Grack hasn't. As for Boston, my reads here still apply so I'd like people to talk about him more before he comes back as the Grack argument sucked the air out of the room in terms of discussion focus. + Show Spoiler +On January 06 2017 15:53 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 11:48 B0stonSC wrote:
Hello! Sorry, hadn't realized this has started. Let me read through everything, and then I'll post thoughts This post pings me but I can't really figure out why. Like he posts this 2-4 hours-ish into the game and starts off by apologising for not being around here earlier which is pretty weird for town to do. I can't imagine myself saying sorry for something as a first post kind of deal so I don't get why he would is what I'm getting at. On January 07 2017 07:28 Calix wrote:
Boston is just in his own little world, detached from the thread and floating by without a single fuck given for all the other stuff going on. His entrance was terrible and his follow-up just reinforces my read. He is too hung up on a player who hasn't DONE anything and is relatively inactive with no reason given and doesn't talk about anything else. Furthermore, he's not actually following through on his Onegu read or vote with anything substantial or trying to convince people or caring much. He's just there.
If we're going for someone low-activity then this is the most likely to hit scum atm.
##vote B0stonSC I said it earlier on why i scum read him. I dunno the post but what pinged me off was the bolded On January 06 2017 10:59 KelsierSC wrote:On January 06 2017 10:57 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 06 2017 10:55 KelsierSC wrote:
so how you reading ika atm? Slight townread based on posting the questions to get us talking and his activity and interest in the game so far. But he may be just copying his town meta so I'm keeping an eye on him still. yeh...like if i was you that is what I would be thinking if I was town. i have to go into work tomorrow unfortunately but only for like 1hr so should be on tomorrow. I know it seems like i've just been jerking off in the thread, and whilst this is true I think Calix, silver and ika are probably town and everyone else is kind of blegh. Grak is mafia though, im pretty happy with my vote at the moment. he gives implications that he himself is not town when referring to it in general. bost i had as town at first but then saw it was the one you were gut reading and i agreed on and after running an iso, i would vote it in a heatbeat becasue of the over abundance of excuses. Silverwolf does this a lot as scum and i have seen countless games of this crap done by scum Good catch with KSC. I hesitate to call it a scum slip (as most of those tend to be wrong FME) but it shows a detached mentality for sure. What do you mean about a detached mentality Calix? The way he phrased his opinion with "if I was town" is detached is what I mean there. Seems like a cold observation more than an opinion in terms of tone, if that makes sense. He said that that's what he would be thinking if he was ika, and then he added the if I was town i.e. if ika was town. What? KSC says "if I was town" which is using the first person - how does that refer to ika? " If I was you that's what I would be thinking if I was town" If he was in ika's shoes and he was town then that is what he would be thinking. The first part of the sentence is the reason why it looks detached or w/e.
I'm still not seeing it. KSC might be referring to SW (who he is responding to) with that part but ika? No.
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On January 08 2017 03:16 Vivax wrote:
Sorry, back with a hungover, had my postponed bday party yesterday.
I don't think we should lynch Grack today, but I'm going to take a look at the arguments against him.
It's because I annoyed a bunch of people.
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On January 08 2017 03:21 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 03:19 Grackaroni wrote:On January 08 2017 03:15 Calix wrote:On January 08 2017 03:12 Grackaroni wrote:On January 08 2017 03:09 Calix wrote:On January 08 2017 02:57 Grackaroni wrote:On January 08 2017 02:14 Calix wrote:On January 08 2017 02:08 ika42 wrote:On January 07 2017 21:58 Calix wrote:On January 07 2017 10:09 ika42 wrote:
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updated after running iso on the newbs
im gonna get food bbl Why is Boston a null to you? Speaking more generally to you and DF, what's the rationale behind voting for KSC? I found DF's post to be interesting as an observation but I wouldn't vote for KSC based on that. Meanwhile I'm not seeing why you think KSC is scum or much talk about him from you. You call out Grack for not trying to convince people to lynch his scum-reads but you're being unclear with your KSC scum-read also. I think KSC's wagon is the most pure atm so pls explain where you're coming from in more detail. On January 07 2017 10:59 Grackaroni wrote:
Ika please prove to me that you are not scum. As for the Grack thing, this was the initial response. Another example of snarky responses to reasonable questions. I fail to see town motivation for being stubborn for the sake of it when it comes to explaining a town-read that nobody agrees with. He later claims that he thinks the entire thing is stupid but given that he helped fuel the argument into a 5-page fiasco, that reasoning looks fake to me. People who think things are stupid don't continue to focus on the stupid thing when they could spend their time better on something more productive or just leave the thread. On January 07 2017 11:21 Grackaroni wrote:
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It goes straight to the heart of the question. If you cannot quote some posts to prove yourself town to me then surely I cannot do so to convince you that Vivax is town
I've already given an answer that I find satisfactory. I like the effort he's putting into the game. I like the angles that he's pushing. I like his attitude and response to being pressured. Grack's later argument here, which I am inferring to be that explaining town-reads is pointless because it won't convince people, would be fine taken by itself. However when I look at his filter, it doesn't fit. Firstly, his filter has a load of town-reads in it and few scum-reads (and the two scum-reads he has suck because they don't show actual scum motivation). If he doesn't think that explaining town-reads will convince people then why would he spend so much time posting about them? Secondly, what's the point of saying "I'll explain my read once you've explained your town-read on SW" when he doesn't think that he can convince people of his read anyway and doesn't scum-read SW? Poor priorities at best, busywork at worst. Given everything else, I don't think he really believes what he's posting here. Thirdly, his filter is a lot worse than I thought it was going to be. Most of it is devoted to the argument and his posts before that were weak town-reads and off-topic posts which don't do anything. I would vote for him over Vivax since Vivax was at least pushing the game forward when he was here while Grack hasn't. As for Boston, my reads here still apply so I'd like people to talk about him more before he comes back as the Grack argument sucked the air out of the room in terms of discussion focus. + Show Spoiler +On January 06 2017 15:53 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 11:48 B0stonSC wrote:
Hello! Sorry, hadn't realized this has started. Let me read through everything, and then I'll post thoughts This post pings me but I can't really figure out why. Like he posts this 2-4 hours-ish into the game and starts off by apologising for not being around here earlier which is pretty weird for town to do. I can't imagine myself saying sorry for something as a first post kind of deal so I don't get why he would is what I'm getting at. On January 07 2017 07:28 Calix wrote:
Boston is just in his own little world, detached from the thread and floating by without a single fuck given for all the other stuff going on. His entrance was terrible and his follow-up just reinforces my read. He is too hung up on a player who hasn't DONE anything and is relatively inactive with no reason given and doesn't talk about anything else. Furthermore, he's not actually following through on his Onegu read or vote with anything substantial or trying to convince people or caring much. He's just there.
If we're going for someone low-activity then this is the most likely to hit scum atm.
##vote B0stonSC I said it earlier on why i scum read him. I dunno the post but what pinged me off was the bolded On January 06 2017 10:59 KelsierSC wrote:On January 06 2017 10:57 SilverWolf77 wrote:
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Slight townread based on posting the questions to get us talking and his activity and interest in the game so far. But he may be just copying his town meta so I'm keeping an eye on him still.
yeh...like if i was you that is what I would be thinking if I was town. i have to go into work tomorrow unfortunately but only for like 1hr so should be on tomorrow. I know it seems like i've just been jerking off in the thread, and whilst this is true I think Calix, silver and ika are probably town and everyone else is kind of blegh. Grak is mafia though, im pretty happy with my vote at the moment. he gives implications that he himself is not town when referring to it in general. bost i had as town at first but then saw it was the one you were gut reading and i agreed on and after running an iso, i would vote it in a heatbeat becasue of the over abundance of excuses. Silverwolf does this a lot as scum and i have seen countless games of this crap done by scum Good catch with KSC. I hesitate to call it a scum slip (as most of those tend to be wrong FME) but it shows a detached mentality for sure. What do you mean about a detached mentality Calix? The way he phrased his opinion with "if I was town" is detached is what I mean there. Seems like a cold observation more than an opinion in terms of tone, if that makes sense. He said that that's what he would be thinking if he was ika, and then he added the if I was town i.e. if ika was town. What? KSC says "if I was town" which is using the first person - how does that refer to ika? " If I was you that's what I would be thinking if I was town" If he was in ika's shoes and he was town then that is what he would be thinking. The first part of the sentence is the reason why it looks detached or w/e. I'm still not seeing it. KSC might be referring to SW (who he is responding to) with that part but ika? No.
Oh then SW.
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On January 08 2017 03:22 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 03:16 Vivax wrote:
Sorry, back with a hungover, had my postponed bday party yesterday.
I don't think we should lynch Grack today, but I'm going to take a look at the arguments against him. It's because I annoyed a bunch of people.
Basically. Who do you want to lynch grack?
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On January 08 2017 03:22 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 03:16 Vivax wrote:
Sorry, back with a hungover, had my postponed bday party yesterday.
I don't think we should lynch Grack today, but I'm going to take a look at the arguments against him. It's because I annoyed a bunch of people.
Yes I have noticed it too that some people here will lynch you if they think you are snarky or whatever. I thought I signed up for mafia.
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On January 08 2017 03:23 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 03:22 Grackaroni wrote:On January 08 2017 03:16 Vivax wrote:
Sorry, back with a hungover, had my postponed bday party yesterday.
I don't think we should lynch Grack today, but I'm going to take a look at the arguments against him. It's because I annoyed a bunch of people. Yes I have noticed it too that some people here will lynch you if they think you are snarky or whatever. I thought I signed up for mafia.
lol I wasn't even trying to be snarky just for the sake of being snarky. I was trying to prove a point! Some filters have just overall seemed townie and he didn't like that one of those filters was the one that he was scum reading.
I also would have been able to prove my point but instead I got responses like:
Nice dodge
The burden of proof is on you
Nice try
The burden of proof is on you
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On January 08 2017 03:23 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 03:21 Calix wrote:On January 08 2017 03:19 Grackaroni wrote:On January 08 2017 03:15 Calix wrote:On January 08 2017 03:12 Grackaroni wrote:On January 08 2017 03:09 Calix wrote:On January 08 2017 02:57 Grackaroni wrote:On January 08 2017 02:14 Calix wrote:On January 08 2017 02:08 ika42 wrote:On January 07 2017 21:58 Calix wrote:[quote] Why is Boston a null to you? Speaking more generally to you and DF, what's the rationale behind voting for KSC? I found DF's post to be interesting as an observation but I wouldn't vote for KSC based on that. Meanwhile I'm not seeing why you think KSC is scum or much talk about him from you. You call out Grack for not trying to convince people to lynch his scum-reads but you're being unclear with your KSC scum-read also. I think KSC's wagon is the most pure atm so pls explain where you're coming from in more detail. [quote] As for the Grack thing, this was the initial response. Another example of snarky responses to reasonable questions. I fail to see town motivation for being stubborn for the sake of it when it comes to explaining a town-read that nobody agrees with. He later claims that he thinks the entire thing is stupid but given that he helped fuel the argument into a 5-page fiasco, that reasoning looks fake to me. People who think things are stupid don't continue to focus on the stupid thing when they could spend their time better on something more productive or just leave the thread. [quote] Grack's later argument here, which I am inferring to be that explaining town-reads is pointless because it won't convince people, would be fine taken by itself. However when I look at his filter, it doesn't fit. Firstly, his filter has a load of town-reads in it and few scum-reads (and the two scum-reads he has suck because they don't show actual scum motivation). If he doesn't think that explaining town-reads will convince people then why would he spend so much time posting about them? Secondly, what's the point of saying "I'll explain my read once you've explained your town-read on SW" when he doesn't think that he can convince people of his read anyway and doesn't scum-read SW? Poor priorities at best, busywork at worst. Given everything else, I don't think he really believes what he's posting here. Thirdly, his filter is a lot worse than I thought it was going to be. Most of it is devoted to the argument and his posts before that were weak town-reads and off-topic posts which don't do anything. I would vote for him over Vivax since Vivax was at least pushing the game forward when he was here while Grack hasn't. As for Boston, my reads here still apply so I'd like people to talk about him more before he comes back as the Grack argument sucked the air out of the room in terms of discussion focus. + Show Spoiler +On January 06 2017 15:53 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 11:48 B0stonSC wrote:
Hello! Sorry, hadn't realized this has started. Let me read through everything, and then I'll post thoughts This post pings me but I can't really figure out why. Like he posts this 2-4 hours-ish into the game and starts off by apologising for not being around here earlier which is pretty weird for town to do. I can't imagine myself saying sorry for something as a first post kind of deal so I don't get why he would is what I'm getting at. On January 07 2017 07:28 Calix wrote:
Boston is just in his own little world, detached from the thread and floating by without a single fuck given for all the other stuff going on. His entrance was terrible and his follow-up just reinforces my read. He is too hung up on a player who hasn't DONE anything and is relatively inactive with no reason given and doesn't talk about anything else. Furthermore, he's not actually following through on his Onegu read or vote with anything substantial or trying to convince people or caring much. He's just there.
If we're going for someone low-activity then this is the most likely to hit scum atm.
##vote B0stonSC I said it earlier on why i scum read him. I dunno the post but what pinged me off was the bolded On January 06 2017 10:59 KelsierSC wrote:
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yeh...like if i was you that is what I would be thinking if I was town.
i have to go into work tomorrow unfortunately but only for like 1hr so should be on tomorrow.
I know it seems like i've just been jerking off in the thread, and whilst this is true I think Calix, silver and ika are probably town and everyone else is kind of blegh.
Grak is mafia though, im pretty happy with my vote at the moment. he gives implications that he himself is not town when referring to it in general. bost i had as town at first but then saw it was the one you were gut reading and i agreed on and after running an iso, i would vote it in a heatbeat becasue of the over abundance of excuses. Silverwolf does this a lot as scum and i have seen countless games of this crap done by scum Good catch with KSC. I hesitate to call it a scum slip (as most of those tend to be wrong FME) but it shows a detached mentality for sure. What do you mean about a detached mentality Calix? The way he phrased his opinion with "if I was town" is detached is what I mean there. Seems like a cold observation more than an opinion in terms of tone, if that makes sense. He said that that's what he would be thinking if he was ika, and then he added the if I was town i.e. if ika was town. What? KSC says "if I was town" which is using the first person - how does that refer to ika? " If I was you that's what I would be thinking if I was town" If he was in ika's shoes and he was town then that is what he would be thinking. The first part of the sentence is the reason why it looks detached or w/e. I'm still not seeing it. KSC might be referring to SW (who he is responding to) with that part but ika? No. Oh then SW.
the former refers to SW, the later refers to himself, i read them as seprate refrences
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Hello everyone. I'm here. I have not read the game as I even didn't /confirm, however hosts weren't eager to wait for me. As I was pissed over things going on over in Host Mafia, I pretty much didn't visit TL over the course of the last 24 hours or so, only went online from mobile for a bit.
So. This is my very first time in playing two games at once so I want to apologize in advance if I suck. I will catch up on the game in the next few hours, I'm at home in front of my desktop and I'm going to do my best to contribute. 
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On January 08 2017 03:23 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 03:22 Grackaroni wrote:On January 08 2017 03:16 Vivax wrote:
Sorry, back with a hungover, had my postponed bday party yesterday.
I don't think we should lynch Grack today, but I'm going to take a look at the arguments against him. It's because I annoyed a bunch of people. Basically. Who do you want to lynch grack?
I'm a little bit weary of this Boston lynch.
The way the thread is running overall worries me. It's a little bit of a hivemind where one person gets knocked down by ika/SW and then everyone coalesces on that person.
Right now I'm thinking about ME or Onegu and that's very likely to change before lynch time. I also still think you could be scum even though you are one of the ones defending me but that's not something I want to pursue today.
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On January 08 2017 03:30 beentheredonethat wrote:Hello everyone. I'm here. I have not read the game as I even didn't /confirm, however hosts weren't eager to wait for me. As I was pissed over things going on over in Host Mafia, I pretty much didn't visit TL over the course of the last 24 hours or so, only went online from mobile for a bit. So. This is my very first time in playing two games at once so I want to apologize in advance if I suck. I will catch up on the game in the next few hours, I'm at home in front of my desktop and I'm going to do my best to contribute.
Eww gross opening post with the preemptive excuse for shit play.
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I believe I was the only person to come out in favor of Vivax? That kind of shocks me.
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Given the mass inactivity, trying to use the bigger picture is a very bad idea that's going to lead to faulty conclusions.
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It's time for some reads, post by post so I don't run into people who don't read walls of text. Eventually I hope to bump into something that makes me more decisive on who to lynch.
Reps I think is town so it's kinda sad he's voting for Grack who I also think is town. Will explain why on request
Next hard to read guy would be 1gu and I believe he's town actually, last time I saw him mafia was in the game where BH bussed him, and he tried much harder to look useful in that game. Here he just seems calm and unpressured.
Filter if you want to compare: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/496215-mini-mafia-the-kinda-vanilla-experience?user=Onegu&view=all
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Also, TimeTraveler STILL hasn't voted, again, just like D1 and D2. He's not doing anything in this game and people need to realize that. I can see TimeTraveler and LightningStrike be scum together given that they did not interact in any way even.
At this point, I think we're down to TT, TT2, LS, Grack, Chez, Slam, with darth, disformation and myself being the town circle. Then again, there's GlowingBear in not-low-but-no-activity-mode who's miraculously always around at deadline but never seems to give a fuck over the day phase.
If there are any town KP located between people, I strongly recommend to shoot whatever you have into Slam/Chez/GB.
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