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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 07 2017 16:29 GMT
#441
SW, if you seem to think the team is Grack/Vivax/Boston, do you see any connections, other than that Grack wants us to think Vivax is town?
We CAN have nice things
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 07 2017 16:41 GMT
#442
Are we really talking about teams pre flip D1?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 07 2017 16:58 GMT
#443
deadline in 4 hours peoples
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 07 2017 17:04 GMT
#444
I am way too lazy to read the OP. Good thing that DF is here to regurgitate stuff from it and save me the bother.
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 17:08 GMT
#445
On January 07 2017 21:58 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2017 10:09 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 10:02 ika42 wrote:
so now that im caught up heres my read list that i have compiled

1) reps)squishy - sligth town
2) Kmatt - slight town
3) MichaelEhrmantraut - lean scum
4) ika42 -town
5) SilverWolf77 - town
6) B0stonSC - -null

Vets
1) beentheredonethat - null
2) Grackaroni- null
3) KelsierSC - scum
4) Onegu - claims VT
5) darthfoley - town lean
6) Calix -null
7) Vivax - scum lean

i have way too many nulls for my liking overall.


updated after running iso on the newbs

im gonna get food bbl


Why is Boston a null to you?

Speaking more generally to you and DF, what's the rationale behind voting for KSC? I found DF's post to be interesting as an observation but I wouldn't vote for KSC based on that. Meanwhile I'm not seeing why you think KSC is scum or much talk about him from you. You call out Grack for not trying to convince people to lynch his scum-reads but you're being unclear with your KSC scum-read also.

I think KSC's wagon is the most pure atm so pls explain where you're coming from in more detail.

Show nested quote +
On January 07 2017 10:59 Grackaroni wrote:
Ika please prove to me that you are not scum.


As for the Grack thing, this was the initial response. Another example of snarky responses to reasonable questions. I fail to see town motivation for being stubborn for the sake of it when it comes to explaining a town-read that nobody agrees with. He later claims that he thinks the entire thing is stupid but given that he helped fuel the argument into a 5-page fiasco, that reasoning looks fake to me. People who think things are stupid don't continue to focus on the stupid thing when they could spend their time better on something more productive or just leave the thread.

Show nested quote +
On January 07 2017 11:21 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:19 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:05 Grackaroni wrote:
Which of your posts are townie? Can you tell me why they are townie?


Love the avoiding of my question and instead deflect it back to me.

It goes straight to the heart of the question. If you cannot quote some posts to prove yourself town to me then surely I cannot do so to convince you that Vivax is town

I've already given an answer that I find satisfactory. I like the effort he's putting into the game. I like the angles that he's pushing. I like his attitude and response to being pressured.


Grack's later argument here, which I am inferring to be that explaining town-reads is pointless because it won't convince people, would be fine taken by itself. However when I look at his filter, it doesn't fit. Firstly, his filter has a load of town-reads in it and few scum-reads (and the two scum-reads he has suck because they don't show actual scum motivation). If he doesn't think that explaining town-reads will convince people then why would he spend so much time posting about them?

Secondly, what's the point of saying "I'll explain my read once you've explained your town-read on SW" when he doesn't think that he can convince people of his read anyway and doesn't scum-read SW? Poor priorities at best, busywork at worst. Given everything else, I don't think he really believes what he's posting here.

Thirdly, his filter is a lot worse than I thought it was going to be. Most of it is devoted to the argument and his posts before that were weak town-reads and off-topic posts which don't do anything. I would vote for him over Vivax since Vivax was at least pushing the game forward when he was here while Grack hasn't.

As for Boston, my reads here still apply so I'd like people to talk about him more before he comes back as the Grack argument sucked the air out of the room in terms of discussion focus.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 06 2017 15:53 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 11:48 B0stonSC wrote:
Hello! Sorry, hadn't realized this has started. Let me read through everything, and then I'll post thoughts


This post pings me but I can't really figure out why. Like he posts this 2-4 hours-ish into the game and starts off by apologising for not being around here earlier which is pretty weird for town to do. I can't imagine myself saying sorry for something as a first post kind of deal so I don't get why he would is what I'm getting at.

On January 07 2017 07:28 Calix wrote:
Boston is just in his own little world, detached from the thread and floating by without a single fuck given for all the other stuff going on. His entrance was terrible and his follow-up just reinforces my read. He is too hung up on a player who hasn't DONE anything and is relatively inactive with no reason given and doesn't talk about anything else. Furthermore, he's not actually following through on his Onegu read or vote with anything substantial or trying to convince people or caring much. He's just there.

If we're going for someone low-activity then this is the most likely to hit scum atm.

##vote B0stonSC


I said it earlier on why i scum read him. I dunno the post but what pinged me off was the bolded

On January 06 2017 10:59 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 10:57 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:55 KelsierSC wrote:

so how you reading ika atm?


Slight townread based on posting the questions to get us talking and his activity and interest in the game so far. But he may be just copying his town meta so I'm keeping an eye on him still.


yeh...like if i was you that is what I would be thinking if I was town.

i have to go into work tomorrow unfortunately but only for like 1hr so should be on tomorrow.

I know it seems like i've just been jerking off in the thread, and whilst this is true I think Calix, silver and ika are probably town and everyone else is kind of blegh.

Grak is mafia though, im pretty happy with my vote at the moment.


he gives implications that he himself is not town when referring to it in general.

bost i had as town at first but then saw it was the one you were gut reading and i agreed on and after running an iso, i would vote it in a heatbeat becasue of the over abundance of excuses. Silverwolf does this a lot as scum and i have seen countless games of this crap done by scum
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 07 2017 17:11 GMT
#446
On January 07 2017 20:59 cakepie wrote:
Vote Count

Grackaroni (3) : KelsierSC, Kmatt, reps)squishy
B0stonSC (2) : Calix, Onegu
KelsierSC (2) : ika42, darthfoley
Vivax (1) : SilverWolf77

Not voting (5) : B0stonSC, beentheredonethat, Grackaroni, MichaelEhrmantraut, Vivax

Currently, Grackaroni is set to be lynched!
The day phase will end at Sunday, Jan 08 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), about 12 hours from this post.
remain as you are reading this.

Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in the voting thread.

If you see any vote out of place, let us know!


Why does the deadline say it'll end at 7pm EST but the count down is T-4 hours? Am I dumb?

In ~4 hours it'll be 4pm EST?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 17:12 GMT
#447
calix if you had to name the scum team right now who would it be? i don't care for reasons i just want a gun to head
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 17:14 GMT
#448
On January 08 2017 00:55 SilverWolf77 wrote:
As it is, I still scumread Vivax for reasons I've given.

Grack looks like scum from his argument with ika.

I also see merit in the B0stonSC scumreads because he is so nervous and uncomfortable and basically is not engaging the thread except to make excuses and was reluctant to answer questions as well until asked multiple times. He seems afraid to make waves.



is it newb town or newb scum overall? Im looking more at the excuses
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 07 2017 17:14 GMT
#449
On January 08 2017 02:08 ika42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2017 21:58 Calix wrote:
On January 07 2017 10:09 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 10:02 ika42 wrote:
so now that im caught up heres my read list that i have compiled

1) reps)squishy - sligth town
2) Kmatt - slight town
3) MichaelEhrmantraut - lean scum
4) ika42 -town
5) SilverWolf77 - town
6) B0stonSC - -null

Vets
1) beentheredonethat - null
2) Grackaroni- null
3) KelsierSC - scum
4) Onegu - claims VT
5) darthfoley - town lean
6) Calix -null
7) Vivax - scum lean

i have way too many nulls for my liking overall.


updated after running iso on the newbs

im gonna get food bbl


Why is Boston a null to you?

Speaking more generally to you and DF, what's the rationale behind voting for KSC? I found DF's post to be interesting as an observation but I wouldn't vote for KSC based on that. Meanwhile I'm not seeing why you think KSC is scum or much talk about him from you. You call out Grack for not trying to convince people to lynch his scum-reads but you're being unclear with your KSC scum-read also.

I think KSC's wagon is the most pure atm so pls explain where you're coming from in more detail.

On January 07 2017 10:59 Grackaroni wrote:
Ika please prove to me that you are not scum.


As for the Grack thing, this was the initial response. Another example of snarky responses to reasonable questions. I fail to see town motivation for being stubborn for the sake of it when it comes to explaining a town-read that nobody agrees with. He later claims that he thinks the entire thing is stupid but given that he helped fuel the argument into a 5-page fiasco, that reasoning looks fake to me. People who think things are stupid don't continue to focus on the stupid thing when they could spend their time better on something more productive or just leave the thread.

On January 07 2017 11:21 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:19 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:05 Grackaroni wrote:
Which of your posts are townie? Can you tell me why they are townie?


Love the avoiding of my question and instead deflect it back to me.

It goes straight to the heart of the question. If you cannot quote some posts to prove yourself town to me then surely I cannot do so to convince you that Vivax is town

I've already given an answer that I find satisfactory. I like the effort he's putting into the game. I like the angles that he's pushing. I like his attitude and response to being pressured.


Grack's later argument here, which I am inferring to be that explaining town-reads is pointless because it won't convince people, would be fine taken by itself. However when I look at his filter, it doesn't fit. Firstly, his filter has a load of town-reads in it and few scum-reads (and the two scum-reads he has suck because they don't show actual scum motivation). If he doesn't think that explaining town-reads will convince people then why would he spend so much time posting about them?

Secondly, what's the point of saying "I'll explain my read once you've explained your town-read on SW" when he doesn't think that he can convince people of his read anyway and doesn't scum-read SW? Poor priorities at best, busywork at worst. Given everything else, I don't think he really believes what he's posting here.

Thirdly, his filter is a lot worse than I thought it was going to be. Most of it is devoted to the argument and his posts before that were weak town-reads and off-topic posts which don't do anything. I would vote for him over Vivax since Vivax was at least pushing the game forward when he was here while Grack hasn't.

As for Boston, my reads here still apply so I'd like people to talk about him more before he comes back as the Grack argument sucked the air out of the room in terms of discussion focus.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 06 2017 15:53 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 11:48 B0stonSC wrote:
Hello! Sorry, hadn't realized this has started. Let me read through everything, and then I'll post thoughts


This post pings me but I can't really figure out why. Like he posts this 2-4 hours-ish into the game and starts off by apologising for not being around here earlier which is pretty weird for town to do. I can't imagine myself saying sorry for something as a first post kind of deal so I don't get why he would is what I'm getting at.

On January 07 2017 07:28 Calix wrote:
Boston is just in his own little world, detached from the thread and floating by without a single fuck given for all the other stuff going on. His entrance was terrible and his follow-up just reinforces my read. He is too hung up on a player who hasn't DONE anything and is relatively inactive with no reason given and doesn't talk about anything else. Furthermore, he's not actually following through on his Onegu read or vote with anything substantial or trying to convince people or caring much. He's just there.

If we're going for someone low-activity then this is the most likely to hit scum atm.

##vote B0stonSC


I said it earlier on why i scum read him. I dunno the post but what pinged me off was the bolded

Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 10:59 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:57 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:55 KelsierSC wrote:

so how you reading ika atm?


Slight townread based on posting the questions to get us talking and his activity and interest in the game so far. But he may be just copying his town meta so I'm keeping an eye on him still.


yeh...like if i was you that is what I would be thinking if I was town.

i have to go into work tomorrow unfortunately but only for like 1hr so should be on tomorrow.

I know it seems like i've just been jerking off in the thread, and whilst this is true I think Calix, silver and ika are probably town and everyone else is kind of blegh.

Grak is mafia though, im pretty happy with my vote at the moment.


he gives implications that he himself is not town when referring to it in general.

bost i had as town at first but then saw it was the one you were gut reading and i agreed on and after running an iso, i would vote it in a heatbeat becasue of the over abundance of excuses. Silverwolf does this a lot as scum and i have seen countless games of this crap done by scum


Good catch with KSC. I hesitate to call it a scum slip (as most of those tend to be wrong FME) but it shows a detached mentality for sure.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 07 2017 17:15 GMT
#450
Where the hell did Vivax go? He disappeared as soon as he was pressured
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 07 2017 17:16 GMT
#451
On January 08 2017 02:12 ika42 wrote:
calix if you had to name the scum team right now who would it be? i don't care for reasons i just want a gun to head


I don't do teams until a scummer's flipped and even then, but Boston, ME and one of Vivax/ Grackaroni is where I'm at with scum-reads.
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 07 2017 17:38 GMT
#452
On January 08 2017 01:29 Kmatt wrote:
SW, if you seem to think the team is Grack/Vivax/Boston, do you see any connections, other than that Grack wants us to think Vivax is town?


I have scumreads on all of them independent of each other. If one of them were to flip scum, then I'd look at associations.
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 07 2017 17:41 GMT
#453
On January 08 2017 02:14 ika42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 00:55 SilverWolf77 wrote:
As it is, I still scumread Vivax for reasons I've given.

Grack looks like scum from his argument with ika.

I also see merit in the B0stonSC scumreads because he is so nervous and uncomfortable and basically is not engaging the thread except to make excuses and was reluctant to answer questions as well until asked multiple times. He seems afraid to make waves.



is it newb town or newb scum overall? Im looking more at the excuses


It looks more like newbscum because he isn't getting involved in any of the discussion and making excuses not to play. He's very nervous as well and awkward. After questioning of his vote, he decides to give a different answer to make it look better.

Again, I look at motivation and I don't see the town motivation in any of this.
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
January 07 2017 17:45 GMT
#454
On January 08 2017 02:11 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2017 20:59 cakepie wrote:
Vote Count

Grackaroni (3) : KelsierSC, Kmatt, reps)squishy
B0stonSC (2) : Calix, Onegu
KelsierSC (2) : ika42, darthfoley
Vivax (1) : SilverWolf77

Not voting (5) : B0stonSC, beentheredonethat, Grackaroni, MichaelEhrmantraut, Vivax

Currently, Grackaroni is set to be lynched!
The day phase will end at Sunday, Jan 08 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), about 12 hours from this post.
remain as you are reading this.

Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in the voting thread.

If you see any vote out of place, let us know!


Why does the deadline say it'll end at 7pm EST but the count down is T-4 hours? Am I dumb?

In ~4 hours it'll be 4pm EST?


Looks correct to me, displays 6:15 on the countdown clock
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 07 2017 17:56 GMT
#455
I'm dismayed that so few people are actually here and playing or that people are here and then they leave for extended periods of time. It makes the game very difficult to play. Can everyone else who hasn't, give their top three scumreads or who they would be o.k. lynching today?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
January 07 2017 17:57 GMT
#456
On January 08 2017 02:14 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:08 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 21:58 Calix wrote:
On January 07 2017 10:09 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 10:02 ika42 wrote:
so now that im caught up heres my read list that i have compiled

1) reps)squishy - sligth town
2) Kmatt - slight town
3) MichaelEhrmantraut - lean scum
4) ika42 -town
5) SilverWolf77 - town
6) B0stonSC - -null

Vets
1) beentheredonethat - null
2) Grackaroni- null
3) KelsierSC - scum
4) Onegu - claims VT
5) darthfoley - town lean
6) Calix -null
7) Vivax - scum lean

i have way too many nulls for my liking overall.


updated after running iso on the newbs

im gonna get food bbl


Why is Boston a null to you?

Speaking more generally to you and DF, what's the rationale behind voting for KSC? I found DF's post to be interesting as an observation but I wouldn't vote for KSC based on that. Meanwhile I'm not seeing why you think KSC is scum or much talk about him from you. You call out Grack for not trying to convince people to lynch his scum-reads but you're being unclear with your KSC scum-read also.

I think KSC's wagon is the most pure atm so pls explain where you're coming from in more detail.

On January 07 2017 10:59 Grackaroni wrote:
Ika please prove to me that you are not scum.


As for the Grack thing, this was the initial response. Another example of snarky responses to reasonable questions. I fail to see town motivation for being stubborn for the sake of it when it comes to explaining a town-read that nobody agrees with. He later claims that he thinks the entire thing is stupid but given that he helped fuel the argument into a 5-page fiasco, that reasoning looks fake to me. People who think things are stupid don't continue to focus on the stupid thing when they could spend their time better on something more productive or just leave the thread.

On January 07 2017 11:21 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:19 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:05 Grackaroni wrote:
Which of your posts are townie? Can you tell me why they are townie?


Love the avoiding of my question and instead deflect it back to me.

It goes straight to the heart of the question. If you cannot quote some posts to prove yourself town to me then surely I cannot do so to convince you that Vivax is town

I've already given an answer that I find satisfactory. I like the effort he's putting into the game. I like the angles that he's pushing. I like his attitude and response to being pressured.


Grack's later argument here, which I am inferring to be that explaining town-reads is pointless because it won't convince people, would be fine taken by itself. However when I look at his filter, it doesn't fit. Firstly, his filter has a load of town-reads in it and few scum-reads (and the two scum-reads he has suck because they don't show actual scum motivation). If he doesn't think that explaining town-reads will convince people then why would he spend so much time posting about them?

Secondly, what's the point of saying "I'll explain my read once you've explained your town-read on SW" when he doesn't think that he can convince people of his read anyway and doesn't scum-read SW? Poor priorities at best, busywork at worst. Given everything else, I don't think he really believes what he's posting here.

Thirdly, his filter is a lot worse than I thought it was going to be. Most of it is devoted to the argument and his posts before that were weak town-reads and off-topic posts which don't do anything. I would vote for him over Vivax since Vivax was at least pushing the game forward when he was here while Grack hasn't.

As for Boston, my reads here still apply so I'd like people to talk about him more before he comes back as the Grack argument sucked the air out of the room in terms of discussion focus.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 06 2017 15:53 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 11:48 B0stonSC wrote:
Hello! Sorry, hadn't realized this has started. Let me read through everything, and then I'll post thoughts


This post pings me but I can't really figure out why. Like he posts this 2-4 hours-ish into the game and starts off by apologising for not being around here earlier which is pretty weird for town to do. I can't imagine myself saying sorry for something as a first post kind of deal so I don't get why he would is what I'm getting at.

On January 07 2017 07:28 Calix wrote:
Boston is just in his own little world, detached from the thread and floating by without a single fuck given for all the other stuff going on. His entrance was terrible and his follow-up just reinforces my read. He is too hung up on a player who hasn't DONE anything and is relatively inactive with no reason given and doesn't talk about anything else. Furthermore, he's not actually following through on his Onegu read or vote with anything substantial or trying to convince people or caring much. He's just there.

If we're going for someone low-activity then this is the most likely to hit scum atm.

##vote B0stonSC


I said it earlier on why i scum read him. I dunno the post but what pinged me off was the bolded

On January 06 2017 10:59 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:57 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:55 KelsierSC wrote:

so how you reading ika atm?


Slight townread based on posting the questions to get us talking and his activity and interest in the game so far. But he may be just copying his town meta so I'm keeping an eye on him still.


yeh...like if i was you that is what I would be thinking if I was town.

i have to go into work tomorrow unfortunately but only for like 1hr so should be on tomorrow.

I know it seems like i've just been jerking off in the thread, and whilst this is true I think Calix, silver and ika are probably town and everyone else is kind of blegh.

Grak is mafia though, im pretty happy with my vote at the moment.


he gives implications that he himself is not town when referring to it in general.

bost i had as town at first but then saw it was the one you were gut reading and i agreed on and after running an iso, i would vote it in a heatbeat becasue of the over abundance of excuses. Silverwolf does this a lot as scum and i have seen countless games of this crap done by scum


Good catch with KSC. I hesitate to call it a scum slip (as most of those tend to be wrong FME) but it shows a detached mentality for sure.

What do you mean about a detached mentality Calix?
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 07 2017 18:05 GMT
#457
On January 08 2017 02:56 SilverWolf77 wrote:
I'm dismayed that so few people are actually here and playing or that people are here and then they leave for extended periods of time. It makes the game very difficult to play. Can everyone else who hasn't, give their top three scumreads or who they would be o.k. lynching today?


KSC/Vivax/ME are probably my top three scum
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 18:06 GMT
#458
On January 08 2017 02:56 SilverWolf77 wrote:
I'm dismayed that so few people are actually here and playing or that people are here and then they leave for extended periods of time. It makes the game very difficult to play. Can everyone else who hasn't, give their top three scumreads or who they would be o.k. lynching today?


I would lynch in the Grackaroni/KelsierSC/B0stonSC/Vivax pool right now

darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 07 2017 18:08 GMT
#459
Also think I'm okay with sheeping you and Calix on boston if it comes to that
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 07 2017 18:09 GMT
#460
On January 08 2017 02:57 Grackaroni wrote:
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On January 08 2017 02:14 Calix wrote:
On January 08 2017 02:08 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 21:58 Calix wrote:
On January 07 2017 10:09 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 10:02 ika42 wrote:
so now that im caught up heres my read list that i have compiled

1) reps)squishy - sligth town
2) Kmatt - slight town
3) MichaelEhrmantraut - lean scum
4) ika42 -town
5) SilverWolf77 - town
6) B0stonSC - -null

Vets
1) beentheredonethat - null
2) Grackaroni- null
3) KelsierSC - scum
4) Onegu - claims VT
5) darthfoley - town lean
6) Calix -null
7) Vivax - scum lean

i have way too many nulls for my liking overall.


updated after running iso on the newbs

im gonna get food bbl


Why is Boston a null to you?

Speaking more generally to you and DF, what's the rationale behind voting for KSC? I found DF's post to be interesting as an observation but I wouldn't vote for KSC based on that. Meanwhile I'm not seeing why you think KSC is scum or much talk about him from you. You call out Grack for not trying to convince people to lynch his scum-reads but you're being unclear with your KSC scum-read also.

I think KSC's wagon is the most pure atm so pls explain where you're coming from in more detail.

On January 07 2017 10:59 Grackaroni wrote:
Ika please prove to me that you are not scum.


As for the Grack thing, this was the initial response. Another example of snarky responses to reasonable questions. I fail to see town motivation for being stubborn for the sake of it when it comes to explaining a town-read that nobody agrees with. He later claims that he thinks the entire thing is stupid but given that he helped fuel the argument into a 5-page fiasco, that reasoning looks fake to me. People who think things are stupid don't continue to focus on the stupid thing when they could spend their time better on something more productive or just leave the thread.

On January 07 2017 11:21 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:19 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:05 Grackaroni wrote:
Which of your posts are townie? Can you tell me why they are townie?


Love the avoiding of my question and instead deflect it back to me.

It goes straight to the heart of the question. If you cannot quote some posts to prove yourself town to me then surely I cannot do so to convince you that Vivax is town

I've already given an answer that I find satisfactory. I like the effort he's putting into the game. I like the angles that he's pushing. I like his attitude and response to being pressured.


Grack's later argument here, which I am inferring to be that explaining town-reads is pointless because it won't convince people, would be fine taken by itself. However when I look at his filter, it doesn't fit. Firstly, his filter has a load of town-reads in it and few scum-reads (and the two scum-reads he has suck because they don't show actual scum motivation). If he doesn't think that explaining town-reads will convince people then why would he spend so much time posting about them?

Secondly, what's the point of saying "I'll explain my read once you've explained your town-read on SW" when he doesn't think that he can convince people of his read anyway and doesn't scum-read SW? Poor priorities at best, busywork at worst. Given everything else, I don't think he really believes what he's posting here.

Thirdly, his filter is a lot worse than I thought it was going to be. Most of it is devoted to the argument and his posts before that were weak town-reads and off-topic posts which don't do anything. I would vote for him over Vivax since Vivax was at least pushing the game forward when he was here while Grack hasn't.

As for Boston, my reads here still apply so I'd like people to talk about him more before he comes back as the Grack argument sucked the air out of the room in terms of discussion focus.

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On January 06 2017 15:53 Calix wrote:
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On January 06 2017 11:48 B0stonSC wrote:
Hello! Sorry, hadn't realized this has started. Let me read through everything, and then I'll post thoughts


This post pings me but I can't really figure out why. Like he posts this 2-4 hours-ish into the game and starts off by apologising for not being around here earlier which is pretty weird for town to do. I can't imagine myself saying sorry for something as a first post kind of deal so I don't get why he would is what I'm getting at.

On January 07 2017 07:28 Calix wrote:
Boston is just in his own little world, detached from the thread and floating by without a single fuck given for all the other stuff going on. His entrance was terrible and his follow-up just reinforces my read. He is too hung up on a player who hasn't DONE anything and is relatively inactive with no reason given and doesn't talk about anything else. Furthermore, he's not actually following through on his Onegu read or vote with anything substantial or trying to convince people or caring much. He's just there.

If we're going for someone low-activity then this is the most likely to hit scum atm.

##vote B0stonSC


I said it earlier on why i scum read him. I dunno the post but what pinged me off was the bolded

On January 06 2017 10:59 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:57 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:55 KelsierSC wrote:

so how you reading ika atm?


Slight townread based on posting the questions to get us talking and his activity and interest in the game so far. But he may be just copying his town meta so I'm keeping an eye on him still.


yeh...like if i was you that is what I would be thinking if I was town.

i have to go into work tomorrow unfortunately but only for like 1hr so should be on tomorrow.

I know it seems like i've just been jerking off in the thread, and whilst this is true I think Calix, silver and ika are probably town and everyone else is kind of blegh.

Grak is mafia though, im pretty happy with my vote at the moment.


he gives implications that he himself is not town when referring to it in general.

bost i had as town at first but then saw it was the one you were gut reading and i agreed on and after running an iso, i would vote it in a heatbeat becasue of the over abundance of excuses. Silverwolf does this a lot as scum and i have seen countless games of this crap done by scum


Good catch with KSC. I hesitate to call it a scum slip (as most of those tend to be wrong FME) but it shows a detached mentality for sure.

What do you mean about a detached mentality Calix?


The way he phrased his opinion with "if I was town" is detached is what I mean there. Seems like a cold observation more than an opinion in terms of tone, if that makes sense.
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