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without a doc cop should probably stay silent. unless he has a mafia check, I guess, but claim = die N1
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I'd lynch either Tumblewood or NeverUnlucky. Both of them posted a bunch of game math yesterday, with the mistake of assuming everything goes well for town, even going as far as avoiding the scenario where either the cop or medic dies. A town looking at game math usually thinks about worst case scenarios and how to avoid them, whereas scum try to convince town of the best case scenarios happening. Neither of them even mentioned the possibility of cop or medic dying, probably because Koshi was a respect kill and not a blue snipe.
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On December 07 2016 07:47 Chairman Ray wrote:
I'd lynch either Tumblewood or NeverUnlucky. Both of them posted a bunch of game math yesterday, with the mistake of assuming everything goes well for town, even going as far as avoiding the scenario where either the cop or medic dies. A town looking at game math usually thinks about worst case scenarios and how to avoid them, whereas scum try to convince town of the best case scenarios happening. Neither of them even mentioned the possibility of cop or medic dying, probably because Koshi was a respect kill and not a blue snipe.
worst case scenario: blue role dies
ways to prevent it: doc save ask politely none
glad we figured that one out
and I think I did say "if things don't go according to plan we play mafia as normal"
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current evaluation of ray is neutral and bad, as opposed to everyone else (besides NU I guess) who are neutral and not playing
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zzz this game is about as active as Chris Christie's physical activity.
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On December 07 2016 07:47 Chairman Ray wrote:
I'd lynch either Tumblewood or NeverUnlucky. Both of them posted a bunch of game math yesterday, with the mistake of assuming everything goes well for town, even going as far as avoiding the scenario where either the cop or medic dies. A town looking at game math usually thinks about worst case scenarios and how to avoid them, whereas scum try to convince town of the best case scenarios happening. Neither of them even mentioned the possibility of cop or medic dying, probably because Koshi was a respect kill and not a blue snipe.
I find it opportunistic that you call me and tw out on our lack of assumptions now that the medic was shanked rather than when we were actually discussing it ie I doubt that you would be reproaching us this if it was a VT that flipped today.
Also, I dislike that you are entering the day with two targets you'd like to see lynched, especially since pretty much nothing happened N0, so I don't understand how you're ready to see myself or tw lynched already. Also, I don't think your justification to scum-read either of us is worthy of calling us lynch targets.
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On December 07 2016 10:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2016 07:47 Chairman Ray wrote:
I'd lynch either Tumblewood or NeverUnlucky. Both of them posted a bunch of game math yesterday, with the mistake of assuming everything goes well for town, even going as far as avoiding the scenario where either the cop or medic dies. A town looking at game math usually thinks about worst case scenarios and how to avoid them, whereas scum try to convince town of the best case scenarios happening. Neither of them even mentioned the possibility of cop or medic dying, probably because Koshi was a respect kill and not a blue snipe. I find it opportunistic that you call me and tw out on our lack of assumptions now that the medic was shanked rather than when we were actually discussing it ie I doubt that you would be reproaching us this if it was a VT that flipped today. Also, I dislike that you are entering the day with two targets you'd like to see lynched, especially since pretty much nothing happened N0, so I don't understand how you're ready to see myself or tw lynched already. Also, I don't think your justification to scum-read either of us is worthy of calling us lynch targets.
Point 2 is specifically worse because we're in mylo, and you shouldn't enter the day with a pre-conceived idea of who you want to lynch.
On December 07 2016 08:59 Tumblewood wrote:
current evaluation of ray is neutral and bad, as opposed to everyone else (besides NU I guess) who are neutral and not playing
Same feeling for ray, but everyone else (besides you who I've a fetus of a town-lean on) is like ray for me cause 'not playing' IS bad.
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On December 07 2016 10:10 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2016 10:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On December 07 2016 07:47 Chairman Ray wrote:
I'd lynch either Tumblewood or NeverUnlucky. Both of them posted a bunch of game math yesterday, with the mistake of assuming everything goes well for town, even going as far as avoiding the scenario where either the cop or medic dies. A town looking at game math usually thinks about worst case scenarios and how to avoid them, whereas scum try to convince town of the best case scenarios happening. Neither of them even mentioned the possibility of cop or medic dying, probably because Koshi was a respect kill and not a blue snipe. I find it opportunistic that you call me and tw out on our lack of assumptions now that the medic was shanked rather than when we were actually discussing it ie I doubt that you would be reproaching us this if it was a VT that flipped today. Also, I dislike that you are entering the day with two targets you'd like to see lynched, especially since pretty much nothing happened N0, so I don't understand how you're ready to see myself or tw lynched already. Also, I don't think your justification to scum-read either of us is worthy of calling us lynch targets. Point 2 is specifically worse because we're in mylo, and you shouldn't enter the day with a pre-conceived idea of who you want to lynch.
well, you might if the pre-conceived idea is a series of posts leading you to the conclusion that someone is scum. mylo is like a normal day except usually without a lynch
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On December 07 2016 10:24 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2016 10:10 NeverUnlucky wrote:On December 07 2016 10:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On December 07 2016 07:47 Chairman Ray wrote:
I'd lynch either Tumblewood or NeverUnlucky. Both of them posted a bunch of game math yesterday, with the mistake of assuming everything goes well for town, even going as far as avoiding the scenario where either the cop or medic dies. A town looking at game math usually thinks about worst case scenarios and how to avoid them, whereas scum try to convince town of the best case scenarios happening. Neither of them even mentioned the possibility of cop or medic dying, probably because Koshi was a respect kill and not a blue snipe. I find it opportunistic that you call me and tw out on our lack of assumptions now that the medic was shanked rather than when we were actually discussing it ie I doubt that you would be reproaching us this if it was a VT that flipped today. Also, I dislike that you are entering the day with two targets you'd like to see lynched, especially since pretty much nothing happened N0, so I don't understand how you're ready to see myself or tw lynched already. Also, I don't think your justification to scum-read either of us is worthy of calling us lynch targets. Point 2 is specifically worse because we're in mylo, and you shouldn't enter the day with a pre-conceived idea of who you want to lynch. well, you might if the pre-conceived idea is a series of posts leading you to the conclusion that someone is scum. mylo is like a normal day except usually without a lynch
I disagree, but it's pointless to argue about theoretical/non-game related stuff.
And ray doesn't have that series of posts.
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On December 07 2016 08:55 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2016 07:47 Chairman Ray wrote:
I'd lynch either Tumblewood or NeverUnlucky. Both of them posted a bunch of game math yesterday, with the mistake of assuming everything goes well for town, even going as far as avoiding the scenario where either the cop or medic dies. A town looking at game math usually thinks about worst case scenarios and how to avoid them, whereas scum try to convince town of the best case scenarios happening. Neither of them even mentioned the possibility of cop or medic dying, probably because Koshi was a respect kill and not a blue snipe. worst case scenario: blue role dies ways to prevent it: doc save ask politely none glad we figured that one out and I think I did say "if things don't go according to plan we play mafia as normal"
Point taken. You mentioned that you are leaning town on NeverUnlucky (specifically you said not neutral). What's your reasoning for that read?
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On December 07 2016 11:09 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2016 10:24 Tumblewood wrote:On December 07 2016 10:10 NeverUnlucky wrote:On December 07 2016 10:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On December 07 2016 07:47 Chairman Ray wrote:
I'd lynch either Tumblewood or NeverUnlucky. Both of them posted a bunch of game math yesterday, with the mistake of assuming everything goes well for town, even going as far as avoiding the scenario where either the cop or medic dies. A town looking at game math usually thinks about worst case scenarios and how to avoid them, whereas scum try to convince town of the best case scenarios happening. Neither of them even mentioned the possibility of cop or medic dying, probably because Koshi was a respect kill and not a blue snipe. I find it opportunistic that you call me and tw out on our lack of assumptions now that the medic was shanked rather than when we were actually discussing it ie I doubt that you would be reproaching us this if it was a VT that flipped today. Also, I dislike that you are entering the day with two targets you'd like to see lynched, especially since pretty much nothing happened N0, so I don't understand how you're ready to see myself or tw lynched already. Also, I don't think your justification to scum-read either of us is worthy of calling us lynch targets. Point 2 is specifically worse because we're in mylo, and you shouldn't enter the day with a pre-conceived idea of who you want to lynch. well, you might if the pre-conceived idea is a series of posts leading you to the conclusion that someone is scum. mylo is like a normal day except usually without a lynch I disagree, but it's pointless to argue about theoretical/non-game related stuff. And ray doesn't have that series of posts.
Same question to you. You said you had a town lean on Tumblewood, even though you mentioned that nothing has happened this game. How come he's leaning town?
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On December 07 2016 11:15 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2016 11:09 NeverUnlucky wrote:On December 07 2016 10:24 Tumblewood wrote:On December 07 2016 10:10 NeverUnlucky wrote:On December 07 2016 10:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:On December 07 2016 07:47 Chairman Ray wrote:
I'd lynch either Tumblewood or NeverUnlucky. Both of them posted a bunch of game math yesterday, with the mistake of assuming everything goes well for town, even going as far as avoiding the scenario where either the cop or medic dies. A town looking at game math usually thinks about worst case scenarios and how to avoid them, whereas scum try to convince town of the best case scenarios happening. Neither of them even mentioned the possibility of cop or medic dying, probably because Koshi was a respect kill and not a blue snipe. I find it opportunistic that you call me and tw out on our lack of assumptions now that the medic was shanked rather than when we were actually discussing it ie I doubt that you would be reproaching us this if it was a VT that flipped today. Also, I dislike that you are entering the day with two targets you'd like to see lynched, especially since pretty much nothing happened N0, so I don't understand how you're ready to see myself or tw lynched already. Also, I don't think your justification to scum-read either of us is worthy of calling us lynch targets. Point 2 is specifically worse because we're in mylo, and you shouldn't enter the day with a pre-conceived idea of who you want to lynch. well, you might if the pre-conceived idea is a series of posts leading you to the conclusion that someone is scum. mylo is like a normal day except usually without a lynch I disagree, but it's pointless to argue about theoretical/non-game related stuff. And ray doesn't have that series of posts. Same question to you. You said you had a town lean on Tumblewood, even though you mentioned that nothing has happened this game. How come he's leaning town?
His posts don't seem like he's trying to appear good rather like he's saying what he thinks.
However, I am wary that he may be attempting to buddy because of these two posts:
On December 07 2016 00:36 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2016 00:32 NeverUnlucky wrote:On December 07 2016 00:28 Tumblewood wrote:On December 07 2016 00:26 NeverUnlucky wrote:On December 07 2016 00:24 Tumblewood wrote:On December 07 2016 00:17 NeverUnlucky wrote:Yo, TW, you up for a chat with me? I've one spare hour  I've got half of one but sure Noice. Do you think you're a good cop check for tonight? no because I think I'm one of the more likely players to die tonight That's the generic answer. Why do you think so? Have you ever been NKed before? Judging from HM3 idk why you would think you're in danger of being killed, lol. If you have some non-math related questions for me, do ask. This game is pretty slow so far. because the NK is always between me you and Koshi. the other players aren't 'respected'and aren't acting townie either
I don't understand why anybody would think that I am a night target for something that is not a blue snipe. idk, I feel like he's either over-evaluating my play or attempting to be on my good side.
On December 07 2016 01:37 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2016 01:24 Tumblewood wrote:On December 07 2016 00:46 Tumblewood wrote:On December 07 2016 00:39 NeverUnlucky wrote:On December 07 2016 00:36 Tumblewood wrote:On December 07 2016 00:32 NeverUnlucky wrote:On December 07 2016 00:28 Tumblewood wrote:On December 07 2016 00:26 NeverUnlucky wrote:On December 07 2016 00:24 Tumblewood wrote:On December 07 2016 00:17 NeverUnlucky wrote:Yo, TW, you up for a chat with me? I've one spare hour I've got half of one but sure Noice. Do you think you're a good cop check for tonight? no because I think I'm one of the more likely players to die tonight That's the generic answer. Why do you think so? Have you ever been NKed before? Judging from HM3 idk why you would think you're in danger of being killed, lol. If you have some non-math related questions for me, do ask. This game is pretty slow so far. because the NK is always between me you and Koshi. the other players aren't 'respected'and aren't acting townie either Oh wow, so much honor for me. c: What do you think of other players' entries, specifically cakepie entering with math and hopeless checking in to check out? And Koshi, what happened to the "This town isn't going to be lazy" shtick you had last game? their entrances are not exciting so idc as for you, me, koshi I like to reward give-a-shitness ebwop actually for Koshi it's the whole 'respect kill' thing. didn't mean to lump him in with us
Here he set me and him in a separate category, and it made me uneasy.
Meh, he's more town than maf to me.
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On December 07 2016 11:14 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2016 08:55 Tumblewood wrote:On December 07 2016 07:47 Chairman Ray wrote:
I'd lynch either Tumblewood or NeverUnlucky. Both of them posted a bunch of game math yesterday, with the mistake of assuming everything goes well for town, even going as far as avoiding the scenario where either the cop or medic dies. A town looking at game math usually thinks about worst case scenarios and how to avoid them, whereas scum try to convince town of the best case scenarios happening. Neither of them even mentioned the possibility of cop or medic dying, probably because Koshi was a respect kill and not a blue snipe. worst case scenario: blue role dies ways to prevent it: doc save ask politely none glad we figured that one out and I think I did say "if things don't go according to plan we play mafia as normal" Point taken. You mentioned that you are leaning town on NeverUnlucky (specifically you said not neutral). What's your reasoning for that read?
it's my way of trying to get people to be active. I reward people for trying if town is dead.
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nu the only reason I like you (actually two) is that you're the only other one trying (although ray might do stuff it seems. exciting) and I have low expectations for your scum game :p
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hell I'll town ray for now unless exo and 1der and that other guy play the game they signed up for.
ugh mafia made a good move killing koshi
if only shape were here. he'd be active
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Hey guys I had to go in today and work a double shift today unexpected. I just got home.
Looks kinda bad though with doc dead :/. I'll be honest I dont feel like reading through the 45ish pages right now but maybe after I've had a little bit of time to relax
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Wait this is 5 pages not 50. wtf
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I don't agree with Chairman ray's logic about scum would only post in best case scenarios.
I pretty much don't agree with NU's line of thinking regarding TW trying to buddy him, but I think his activity (lol) and bothering to explain it like that makes him town to me.
Ray looks sketchy to me.
TW looks Town.
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On December 07 2016 00:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
Why are there suggestions for the cop to claim during D1? Why not end of N1 when theres a chance at 2 checks?
is his 1 post. I think scum if he says nothing else
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Kinda null on cakepie. idk its really hard to read anybody with so few posts
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