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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
December 05 2016 23:04 GMT
#41
On December 06 2016 08:03 Chairman Ray wrote:
We got no medic save n0, so shouldn't cop claim come at day?

I guess...
good times for all
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
December 06 2016 00:30 GMT
#42
On October 04 2016 08:50 batsnacks wrote:
[image loading]


ayy lmao
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
December 06 2016 00:33 GMT
#43
I agree that cop should claim at day start, and I also think that the medic should claim. NO VT EVER CC's. Force 1 on 1 with mafia or have up to 3 confirmed town if cop gets a green check who lives through the night.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
December 06 2016 01:10 GMT
#44
On December 06 2016 09:33 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I agree that cop should claim at day start, and I also think that the medic should claim. NO VT EVER CC's. Force 1 on 1 with mafia or have up to 3 confirmed town if cop gets a green check who lives through the night.

as is we don't have to lynch anyone today (although LyLo is worse than MyLo) if we want to get extra info. we can use this to get one cop check tonight, one on N1, and if doc claims he will die N1 and cop dies N2 before 2v1 LyLo (assuming we make it that far...)
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
December 06 2016 01:19 GMT
#45
so... plan?
cop checks N0 (get conftown or redcheck)
cop claims D1 (two conftown). lynch if redcheck
cop checks N1 (get conftown or redcheck). doc saves cop
reveal check D2, doc claims D2 (four conftown). lynch if redcheck
cop checks N2 (get conftown or redcheck). doc saves cop, probably dies
reveal check D3 (five conftown). lynch if redcheck
so throughout the game we can confirm up to five players as town if doc survives to D2 and cop survives to D1. other possibilities are confirm 4 town and 1 mafia or 3 town and 2 mafia by D3.

I guess if cop or doc dies tonight we just play like normal
good times for all
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
December 06 2016 01:49 GMT
#46
No, TW, bad plan.

Get the medic to claim D1.
D1 - 3 c. town or 2 ctown, 1 mafia.
N1 - 1 c.town dies
D2 - 3 ctown, so 2 cmafia / 2 ctown, 1cmafia / 1 ctown, last cmafia
GG in 2/3 scenarios.

Your method is risking the cop to check the medic and thus losing in efficiency. My method is pro and should be sheeped =))))))

You still around?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
December 06 2016 03:57 GMT
#47
Sad NU.

[image loading]
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
December 06 2016 04:05 GMT
#48
sup guise
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
December 06 2016 05:22 GMT
#49
if doc survives to D2 and cop survives to D1.

45% raw odds of fulfilling prerequisites for the plan, awesome!

we can confirm up to five players as town

sweet, even if no redchecks, we can find all five town by D3, which PoE the other two for confscum!
good job!

such plan much wow

any NA still ard or am I stuck waiting for EU to wake up?
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 06 2016 06:34 GMT
#50
Hi.

claiming Vanilla Town.

Going back to PoE
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
December 06 2016 06:52 GMT
#51
On December 06 2016 15:34 ExO_ wrote:
Hi.

claiming Vanilla Town.

Going back to PoE

ugh I hope this isn't "hi I'm VT bye" because night doesn't mean we can't play. especially when you won't get killed for your reads because N0
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
December 06 2016 06:56 GMT
#52
On December 06 2016 14:22 cakepie wrote:
Show nested quote +
if doc survives to D2 and cop survives to D1.

45% raw odds of fulfilling prerequisites for the plan, awesome!

Show nested quote +
we can confirm up to five players as town

sweet, even if no redchecks, we can find all five town by D3, which PoE the other two for confscum!
good job!

such plan much wow

any NA still ard or am I stuck waiting for EU to wake up?

pls it's 25/42 odds (so about 59%?) of prerequisites.
anyway even if the odds slightly favor us I'd rather play a solid game with real reads and such. blue roles are boring
good times for all
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 06 2016 06:57 GMT
#53
On December 06 2016 15:52 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 15:34 ExO_ wrote:
Hi.

claiming Vanilla Town.

Going back to PoE

ugh I hope this isn't "hi I'm VT bye" because night doesn't mean we can't play. especially when you won't get killed for your reads because N0


And what if it is?
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 06 2016 06:57 GMT
#54
On December 06 2016 15:56 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 14:22 cakepie wrote:
if doc survives to D2 and cop survives to D1.

45% raw odds of fulfilling prerequisites for the plan, awesome!

we can confirm up to five players as town

sweet, even if no redchecks, we can find all five town by D3, which PoE the other two for confscum!
good job!

such plan much wow

any NA still ard or am I stuck waiting for EU to wake up?

pls it's 25/42 odds (so about 59%?) of prerequisites.
anyway even if the odds slightly favor us I'd rather play a solid game with real reads and such. blue roles are boring


Cop should 100% claim tomorrow, regardless of what happens.
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
December 06 2016 08:00 GMT
#55
On December 06 2016 15:56 Tumblewood wrote:
pls it's 25/42 odds (so about 59%?) of prerequisites.
In what number system?

I made absurdly town-favored assumptions and got 45%.
Assume scum ignore blue claims and always blindly shoot into town at random.
Night 0 scum kills 1/5 of us. 3/5 = 60% to hit VT, ensuring both doc and cop survive to Day 1.
Assume no mislynch on Day 1.
Night 1 scum kills 1/4 of us. 1/4 = 25% to hit doc, i.e. 75% for doc to survive to Day 2.
Raw odds 75% * 60% = 45% overall to satisfy prereqs "of if doc survives to D2 and cop survives to D1"

That's under the most town-favored set of assumptions. Even lower probability in any actual reality.


I'd rather play a solid game with real reads and such. blue roles are boring
What a convenient thing to say now.


On December 06 2016 07:48 Koshi wrote:
Hi. Copclaim pls?
If this was a rxn test, I hope you got what you wanted.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 06 2016 08:30 GMT
#56
Oh no doc save N0. That makes more sense.
I am going to do nothing and see if mafia respect kills me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 06 2016 08:47 GMT
#57
I made absurdly town-favored assumptions and got 45%.
Assume scum ignore blue claims and always blindly shoot into town at random.
Night 0 scum kills 1/5 of us. 3/5 = 60% to hit VT, ensuring both doc and cop survive to Day 1.
Assume no mislynch on Day 1.
Night 1 scum kills 1/4 of us. 1/4 = 25% to hit doc, i.e. 75% for doc to survive to Day 2.
Raw odds 75% * 60% = 45% overall to satisfy prereqs "of if doc survives to D2 and cop survives to D1"

That's under the most town-favored set of assumptions. Even lower probability in any actual reality.

I don't understand the town favored assumptions but the math is correct. (Except if the extreme town assumptions are that town won't fuck up, because, town will fuck up.)
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 06 2016 08:51 GMT
#58
I should have opened this game claiming cop, asking the doc to protect me N0.


Opportunities missed.
I had a good night of sleep.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 06 2016 09:33 GMT
#59
On December 06 2016 17:30 Koshi wrote:
Oh no doc save N0. That makes more sense.
I am going to do nothing and see if mafia respect kills me.


If Koshi doesn't die tonight kill him tomorrow
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 06 2016 09:42 GMT
#60
On December 06 2016 18:33 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 17:30 Koshi wrote:
Oh no doc save N0. That makes more sense.
I am going to do nothing and see if mafia respect kills me.

If Koshi doesn't die tonight kill him tomorrow

So much respect in this sentence. I like it.

Basically if you are town your thought process is:
If mafia doesn't respect kill (The Great and Awesome) Koshi during N0, Koshi is always mafia.



And I agree. I am pretty terrifying.
I had a good night of sleep.
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